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 Mr H2O

Joined: 10/31/2006
Msg: 26
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Posted: 5/25/2008 10:14:50 AM
New York Times---Published: February 1, 2008
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Exxon Mobil’s beat its own record for the highest profits ever recorded
by any company, with net income rising 3 percent to $40.6 billion.
The company’s sales were more than $404 billion.

Exxon Mobil earned more than $1,287 of profit for every second of 2007.

A $69.7 million compensation package and $98 million pension payout
to Exxon Mobil Corp.'s former chief executive and chairman Lee R. Raymond
has some shareholders and economists asking, "how much is enough?''

Chevron Corp. Chairman and CEO David O'Reilly received a $1.55 million salary,
$3.5 million bonus and $3.57 million in long-term compensation.
He owns options valued at just over $34 million, including exercisable options
worth $28 million, according to Chevron's proxy.

Is one guy really worth that much --when it affects 300 million people in the USA ?

BUSINESSWEEK Management September 14, 2007, 3:36PM EST
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Eight CEOs in the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index were paid $1 or less in 2006,
along with eight smaller companies, according to executive compensation research firm Equilar.
Among the most well-known are Steve Jobs of Apple and Eric Schmidt of Google,
who will both face shareholders at their respective annual meetings on May 10.

The others are James Rogers of Duke Energy (DUK), Richard Fairbank
of Capital One Financial, and Terry Semel of Yahoo (YHOO).
The latest CEO to agree to a token base salary is John Mackey at Whole Foods Market,
whose $1 salary took effect in January.
Jerrold Perenchio of Univision Communications and William Ford Jr. of Ford Motor
also received no salary as CEO until 2006, when each stepped down to take the post of chairman.

The common characteristics among this varied cast of characters?
A strong belief in personal responsibility, a passion for the business,
a penchant for risk-taking—and a healthy dose of ego.
 jaemey

Joined: 6/3/2007
Msg: 27
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Posted: 5/25/2008 10:53:27 AM

And don't give excuses for when it's winter you can't be outside,walking,hiking,etc.
It's 2008 and the clothes work excellent as do the boots, snowshoes and skis.


I somewhat agree with statement. I think people can walk upto a certain point.... I will walk in winter, yes.... but not when it is -30 or -40 and there is a nice wind chill going on ... no thank you.... that is my comfort line for driving... plus i don't really think it is safe for my kids to be out in that. Never mind walking when ther is four feet of snow on the ground.
I think if people can start by just cutting back on the use of their vehicle and being more mindful of what products contain oil and oil byproducts (which is an extremly large amount), as well as considering gas used in transport of items and food.... that is a huge start... education and acting on it.
As much as i am trying not to fall into this category... i still think many people will adjust other things in their lives before giving up the use of a vehicle half time.
 jaemey

Joined: 6/3/2007
Msg: 28
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Posted: 5/25/2008 11:14:47 AM

There's lost of news recently about public schools switching from fresh foods to food-like substances to save big money. Their food budgets are pretty much fixed, just like the incomes of poor people.


I didn't look for any reports on this for public schools, but i will say I must be lucky were i live then.... BC has established a ban on junk food in schools.... on their end. No junk food vending machines, no junk in concession.... and it was all implemented here in Jan for elementary schools and Sept for high schools. Schools also have a BC fruit and vegetable program where the kids get one serving twice a week every other week. Still is a pilot project but spaces are going up from something like 42 to 147? (something like that) this coming year. Fruit and vegggies are all bc grown and teach children about local and in season and sometimes organic.


Get going" looking around for how people trying to eat fresh foods and, even worse, organic fresh foods are getting punished. People who aren't so dedicated to healthy food, or as able to pay, are switching to dead food-like substances from BigFood.


I'm not sure what BigFood is and not sure why these people would be punished..... sorry i don't understand this part....



Poor, poorly educated, uninformed people at/below the poverty level simply don't have the means to eat fresh, healthy food even if they wanted to. BigFood's high-calorie-density food-like substances are so much cheaper. People can and will drive less to save gas $$, but very few people will reduce their caloric intake to save $$, so they switch to cheaper, unhealthy calories.


Uniformed/ uneducated people.... yes i can see them not buying healthy things... i couldn't believe some of the things my friend thought were "healthy", it blew my mind. But people in poverty def have the means to eat healthy. I am on CPP disability... falling much below the poverty line and i can.... because i make the choice... cutting out other things that are not as important to me. We also have programs here that i wouldn't think would be offered everywhere.... organic fruit and veggie boxes through the university.... local fruit and veggie boxes through the health unit... they are much cheaper than going the store to buy. Although i haven't got one for awhile. Lets put it this way ...lol (i'm not looking for a date anyways ) I make below someone on welfare and i have two kids. It's a choice.

I actually believe alot of people will drive the same, but if they need to, skimp on other things..... lets face it.... right now, the increase in gas isn't going to break anyone.... although i am not saying it won't get to that point. If it comes to that... I will most likely still use my car on occasion... walk or bike like i am now, and i will probably stop buying organic, but will continue locally....
 Mr H2O

Joined: 10/31/2006
Msg: 29
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Posted: 5/25/2008 7:01:22 PM
As Walmart enters the organic arena -, it's no longer hip to be "organic."
The advent of mass-market, big-business, organic agriculture is pushing
those on the cutting edge of food production away from the term "organic."

Food for thought : meet face-to-face each week with the person who grew your nourishment .
 satx78218

Joined: 10/30/2007
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Posted: 5/25/2008 7:49:36 PM
"As Walmart enters the organic arena"

Wal-mart and BigFood, BigFarm, BigChem are already polltuing the definition of "organic", with USDA and FDA complicity. The corps and Repug govt will always do the best for the customers.
 billymccool

Joined: 8/11/2007
Msg: 31
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Posted: 5/27/2008 8:42:01 AM
The world is over-populated. The earth has limited resources. Things are not going to get better, people will need to adapt.

America pisses me off. We just spent Billions sending yet another stupid probe to mars to "take pictures" and dig. What a damn waste of money, especially with the economy the way it is. It drives me crazy that we spend Trillions in our Nasa program, yet we cant find a solution to affordable energy. The bottom line is the oil industry runs this country and when you affect the ring leader it effects the rest of the chain. American will depend on oil until the day it is depleted for no other reason than money.

Home heating will be a major problem this up-coming winter. The average family will pay $800 more this year than the previous year!!! When is it going to stop? Instead of pointing fingers and blaming, which is fun I have to admit, We need to find a solution. America is suppose to be the worlds leader in innovation, well enough with space probes, we have our own problems on planet earth.
 CanadianBeef

Joined: 1/5/2008
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Posted: 5/27/2008 9:02:39 AM

We just spent Billions sending yet another stupid probe to mars to "take pictures" and dig. What a damn waste of money, especially with the economy the way it is.


I disagree. Exploration to other planets is impetus to our species long term survival. Earth is a limited resource, it will one day burn out. Not in our life time, sure, but the sooner we begin inhabiting other planets, the better.


It drives me crazy that we spend Trillions in our Nasa program, yet we cant find a solution to affordable energy.


The scientists have already figured it out, now it's mostly up to the average consumer.

Hybrid and electrical cars have been around for a while, same with energy independent homes. Are you going to spend the money to drastically change your way of life? You loose some convience is driving a hybrid/electrical but you save money and the environment.

I think the problem is that most people expect the gov't and a few select scientists to solve evrything for them.


The bottom line is the oil industry runs this country and when you affect the ring leader it effects the rest of the chain. American will depend on oil until the day it is depleted for no other reason than money.


Unfortunately, I agree. That time is coming faster than ever too with the rapid growth of the Chinese and India markets.

I think China actually surpassed the USA as the number one consumer of energy. Scary.


America is suppose to be the worlds leader in innovation, well enough with space probes, we have our own problems on planet earth.


Historically it has been, in part because it rapes other countries of their best and brightest.

Space research promotes innovation like nothing else, similar to the positive effects of war. Those innovations eventually trickle into the everyday economy and make everyone's life better. There is probably no device on the planet which handles it self more efficiently than a space vehicle or the mars lander. There are no gas stations in space after all.
 satx78218

Joined: 10/30/2007
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Posted: 5/27/2008 9:19:07 AM
"Trillions in our Nasa program,"

WTF?

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/210020main_NASA_FY09_Budget_Estimates_Summary.pdf

2008 NASA total budget: $17B.

Shooting at planets is a cheapie compared to wars.

If you want to p!ss in the right direction,

p!ss at the White House for burning through mulitpe $Ts in their War-for-Iraq-oil,

and

at political "leadership" in general in not regulating private investment bank (sub-prime crisis and recession) and

in not preparing the country, years ago, for the end of cheap oil. Europe has been ready, America is being screwed.

Now America is facing a self-inflicted "oil shock" much worse, and very probably more enduring, than the '67, '73, '79 oil shocks.

Big headlines today?

Hughes Inst giving $500M for research to 1000 scientists. HUGE NEWS.

$500M is burned up in Iraq in less than 2 days this week.
 satx78218

Joined: 10/30/2007
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Posted: 5/27/2008 9:45:36 AM
correction:

"Institute to Fund $600M In Medical Research

Howard Hughes Medical Institute announces an initiative endowing the risky but potentially life-saving work of 56 promising scientists."
 country.girl

Joined: 12/26/2007
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Posted: 5/27/2008 10:28:30 AM

maybe America will finally trade cars in for bikes and good walking shoes...but I doubt it.

lol, since i don't have a car that's all i can do is walk to the market (and hope to get a ride back home, 16 miles round trip).


Most of America is pretty screwed even if it wanted to use public transport, which often involves walking many 100s of yards per day,

if i want to take public transportation i'd still have to make my 7 mile walk over the mountain to the biggest city closest to me.

where i'm at there aren't too many people that would share a ride to the supermarket with you, hell, my neighbor told me that i had to start finding my own way to physical therapy a few months ago (i was hurt in her car...long story if you don't already know). the high price of gas is putting a big dent into everyone's pockets regardless of whether it's a married couple, dating, or single. not only is gas going up but have you seen the prices on a lot of things in the market? milk, bread, eggs, and quite a few other things have gone up in price and will continue to rise until something is done and done now!

uggg, i'm seriously thinking of buying a horse & covered wagon, some chickens, roosters, and dairy cows and starting my own little veggie farm. i can always contact the guy at the cow farm about getting a side of beef.
 CanadianBeef

Joined: 1/5/2008
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Posted: 5/27/2008 1:33:23 PM
I'm not sure mass transit is the solution in most major cities in North America, with the xception of some major cities like New York, most north american cities suffer from urban sprawl. it's just not effective to implement more mass transit.

Cities should do more to promote car pooling, like fuel/tax breaks and specialized lanes, like they have in Vancouver.

Obviously, more oil companies need to start hammering out the hybrid pumps, but that is counter productive to their own bread and butter, so that responsibility has to fall on someone else, likely an entrepreneur. Problem is, until people start actually buying electric/hybrid cars, it wouldn't make economic sense.

Gov't would have to step in and force/require everyone to switch to hybrid cars within X number of years to make that hybrid fuel pumps feasible. How would you react if you received a letter in the mail telling you, you had to loose at least one gas car and replace it with a hybrid car -- swallowing the financial loss of both the gas car not being resold and purchase of a new hybrid???

That would cost waaay to much to the gov't to swallow the hit of making such a transition.

The whole is tricky and sticky which is why we still depend heavily on oil, cause the alternatives are sucky for everyone.
 country.girl

Joined: 12/26/2007
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Posted: 5/27/2008 7:22:10 PM
that's just the thing with the rural areas like where i'm at. sure i live in a trailer park but unless you've been here for more than 10 yrs or know people in here personally no one is going to car pool, especially if you're not going to the same location. you don't know how many times i have to ask just a selected few people to take me to the market...only when they go.

there is a transit that comes into the trailer park but that's for the elderly and handicapped and they still have to pay just like public transportation. with me getting help, i also get help with that but that's only for medical purposes and not shopping.

the government here in this country really bites. one of my best friends is from up north and is trying to convince me to moving to london, ontario as soon as my law suit settles.

until i'm able to get a car of my own, hopefully by then the gas prices with be lowered then....i'm just gonna have to keep investing in a good pair of sneakers.

oh, and cb, with all of the walking that i've done so far this year......i would have walked to the canadian border by now coming from pa into ny.
 billymccool

Joined: 8/11/2007
Msg: 38
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Posted: 5/28/2008 7:10:13 AM
Cars will continue to get more efficient. It amazes me to see jackasses with their 5.7 liter hemi's... They are the ones who **** the loudest, hey dumb dumb how about you get a more effieicient engine, something that does a little better than 12 miles to a gallon highway. Those people make me sick...Although big engine cars are fun to drive, I saw a Lambo this past weekend and almost crapped my pants. We went through the tolls together and you should have heard it take off. SWEEEEET haha off subject.

Yo I say bring back horses and what not. They run on carrots and oatmeal plus they fertilize the earth with their waste and it would be funny to see horses running around everywhere...
 JasonTKD22

Joined: 10/11/2005
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Posted: 5/29/2008 10:57:28 PM
Well, I'm sure some people's wallets are becoming lighter.
 TradurGurl

Joined: 8/21/2007
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Posted: 5/31/2008 10:50:42 AM
msg.6 You've done your homework. Lucky you , for never having had a weight problem .


Msg 6 here!

I have had to work hard to control my weight all my life due to hypoglocemia.

I did have about a 40 lb weight problem a few years ago after an illness. It was HELL trying to lose it, and I Especially DID have to do A LOT homework to find out how to overcome some medical complications that made it virtually impossible for me to lose.

The doctors don't have good answers for weight loss for many , so my heart goes out to those who don't really believe in the power of nutritional healing. They wouldn't benefit from all that I had to learn.

And to those that can't lose weight for other good reasons.

As a result of all this, my sympathy level for the ones out there who really are "slobs" that out there could easily lose weight -- but just won't try -- is ZERO.
 tallshyman

Joined: 1/1/2008
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Posted: 8/13/2008 3:59:35 PM
I will start going back to the gym now that gas prices have gone down. its a 28 miles round trip and cost 1.2 gallons.
 Lil Brooker

Joined: 6/17/2008
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Posted: 8/13/2008 10:02:12 PM
The other side of the coin is that my gym is a 35 min drive away and I will prob go less often. So, yes, gas prices will affect my fitness level.
 Fashen

Joined: 8/2/2008
Msg: 43
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Posted: 8/13/2008 11:10:20 PM
Buy free weights, forget the gym.
 Lil Brooker

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Posted: 8/14/2008 1:06:51 AM

Buy free weights, forget the gym.

I have dumbells, a ball, a sh*tty bench and an elastic rope.
However, I do a much, much more commited and intense work-out at the gym...and I like some of the machines and the treadmill (won't run on pavement). You're right, though - more work-outs at home.
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