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Posted: 5/21/2008 7:58:40 PM |
Do men really think that every woman wants him regardless to what he looks like or what kind of job he has or how smart he is???? Probably not. But it'd be natural enough for them to hope that the woman they are attracted to is not going to be too greatly influenced by superficial things, wouldn't it? If they don't hope, they'd just stay under their rock and never dare contact anyone (and yes there are men like this, the complete opposite of your description, who believe that no-one will ever want them).
Also do men really want to have anything in common with the woman they are dating or do they think they will turn her on to a couple of new things??? I believe that this is less important to men than to women. Male brains tend to be better at compartmentalising so, for example, they get home from work and they do not have the same need to talk about work with their partner as women do. They don't mind having interests that their partner is not interested in and they don't see why their partner would care much about that either. It took me many years to figure out that this different attitude must be due to their ability/tendency to focus/compartmentalise rather than to multi-task/make links between things as women tend to. I could not figure out how men who were absolutely passionate about maths or science could have happy relationships with women who had zero interest in the fields, but it's got to be due to the way they switch focus. | |
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Posted: 5/21/2008 9:01:47 PM | | I have always envied those guys that think they are flawless because no matter how many women turn them down, it's like water off a duck's back. Eventually, one is interested. Personally, I can't take that much rejection. It's a shame on my part. | |
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Posted: 5/21/2008 9:38:16 PM | I am a raging penis of sexual relentlessness in desperate need of affirmation. Please, join me, as I know it is what you deeply desire. Do it now. One-time offer. This much sextitude only comes by once every three minutes, and by the time those three minutes pass and another man comes by you will be a hag that no man will love. Thank God I am a minute man who won't be around for when that happens! Whew.
Really? Can we please not judge every man by the fact that you have a high opinion of yourself?
"Do men think they can talk a woman into being sexually attacted to them??? "
Let's be honest. Women can come around to the notion they like a guy more easily than guys can come around to the idea that they like a particular girl. It is my experience that women are more persuadable than men on this front. In fact, a lot of what attracts women to particular guys is seeing their effort.
Does that make every guy a winner if you give him enough time? Nope. But there are a lot more winners out there than women generally credit men for.
The truth is, at the end of the day women control the supply in the economy of sex. Women get to be mean about men because men have produced a demand that cannot be fulfilled by the existing supply of women.
That said, I question whether that gives anyone the right to make sweeping generalizations instead of just sorting out the causes of their personal misery. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 12:54:05 AM |
The reason I'm really still single is because I've worked my ass off. I don't worry about the price of gas or the sub-prime mess as I have the deed to my house and the titles to five cars.
Yeah I could actually really care less about most women as being my friend. And even though you think the men are your friends, one day they will let you down because they will want more.
I'm telling you straight up that if I'm single and a single female knowingly walks into my house, that it won't be to chit chat or watch tv. I won't let that happen. Get it?
Maybe you should be worried about the price of oil if you're greedy enough to have five cars, if less people did that we wouldn't be in the mess we are now - but I digress. Am I to be impressed? I, too, have the tittle deeds to my house and its surrounding land, so what? I've still found time to find people I whose company I enjoy.
You're assuming that my male friends have the same view about women as you, some may, the majority do not - which is why I like them.
This is partly where the female view of the male ego stems from. "It's beneath me to talk to you unless you'll fcuk me". What single women is going to want to walk into your house if you have that attitude? Are you any closer to understanding my point?
I have the feeling we're going to have to agree to differ on this. You hold the view that all women are sexual targets and I hold the view that they're people, just like men. Hay ho, you can't exppect everyone to be open minded can you?
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Posted: 5/22/2008 1:48:24 AM | I wouldn't say that having no female friends is the smartest move if you intend to be a huge success with women. A few, that you see now and again - Sure, they can introduce you to lots of women, give you perspective, advice, and all that nice stuff.
What is dangerous to a guy, is to spend lots of time making friends and hanging out with women he is sexually interested in, who don't share that interest. It's bad for his level of confidence to make a habit of doing this, it's a constant reminder of a woman who basically views him as not having a****..., and some women will use this knowledge that the guy is into them romantically to use them for attention, money, as a backup. what have you. If it is a situation where singles are mingling, and he has enough female friends, why would he sit there and spend the night on you when he could be flirting with women who who might actually be into him. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 1:48:37 AM | OP
A lot of what I sense from this post comes from attitude. It sounds like you are mistaking arrogance for self confidence. Yes, it is true that someone else's opinion of you should not make an impact on your self esteem but that does not give you the right to step on someone and not expect return in kind. If your attitude is positive and respectful, you are more likely to get the same in return. But if you are coming across as arrogant, disrespectful or flat out mean, then you will get what you give.
We all have our requirements and our personal desires in a relationship. But that should not stop people from being respectful of others. If it doesn't work, wish them well and move on. I think you might be coming across as "oh please, why is this ugly guy even think he has a shot with the perfect princess." That will piss anyone off. Like I said, attitude is key. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 2:07:19 AM | Okay, maybe it is just my intuitive female mind feeling the need to comment on this topic but does anyone else think the original poster (OP) perhaps...could have possibly...hahaha...set up this post just to get attention? Hmmm...I am thinking it worked!
Is it such a foreign concept for people, no matter their sex, to approach others they find attractive? I think not. Guys & gals... I say go for it. If you find a princess/prince that turns their nose up at you for simply wanting to chat them up, recognize it and be glad you saved yourself the trouble. You may be otherwised suprised that not all women have a deluded godess complex and will be happy to talk with you if you hold their interest and make them laugh.
As for women saying that all guys want is sex...well sex is part of a healthy relationship so get real ladies! There is no relationship without sexual chemistry so stop trying to use it as a power struggle and grow up. Or...better yet get used to buying yourself flowers and stop trying to interest & date these guys just to turn them down to make yourself feel superior. Last time I checked highschool was a long time ago.  | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 5:23:15 AM | Maybe you should be worried about the price of oil if you're greedy enough to have five cars, if less people did that we wouldn't be in the mess we are now - but I digress. Am I to be impressed? I, too, have the tittle deeds to my house and its surrounding land, so what? I've still found time to find people I whose company I enjoy.
Now I'm greedy too? I'm the cause the oil crisis? You don't know me honey and do yourself a favor, grow up.
Real open minded there, aren't you?
Or better yet, go talk to your friends.
You shouldn't wonder why I'm single, you should ask yourself why you are. And if you had a lick of sense, you'd realize that if a man ever comes into your life, that those male friends of yours will slowly but surely disappear. The only reason they're hanging around is because they hope to one day be more.
This is partly where the female view of the male ego stems from. "It's beneath me to talk to you unless you'll fcuk me". What single women is going to want to walk into your house if you have that attitude? Are you any closer to understanding my point?
This is even funnier. You think I talk down to women? No, not at all. I just plainly stated that I don't consider having women around as close friends. You're the one rambling on and on and putting words into my mouth.
I plainly stated that the one true female friend I want to have is my partner. I don't need any other women around as I have plenty of male friends to fill that role. And I think most women would agree with me on that.
What you need to realize is that I have plenty of female aquaintances, not close female friends. And guess what, they all like me.
Having problems with the male friends lately there hun?
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Posted: 5/22/2008 5:50:10 AM |
I wouldn't say that having no female friends is the smartest move if you intend to be a huge success with women. A few, that you see now and again - Sure, they can introduce you to lots of women, give you perspective, advice, and all that nice stuff.
What is dangerous to a guy, is to spend lots of time making friends and hanging out with women he is sexually interested in, who don't share that interest. It's bad for his level of confidence to make a habit of doing this, it's a constant reminder of a woman who basically views him as not having a****..., and some women will use this knowledge that the guy is into them romantically to use them for attention, money, as a backup. what have you. If it is a situation where singles are mingling, and he has enough female friends, why would he sit there and spend the night on you when he could be flirting with women who who might actually be into him.
Yes I see what you mean, I'm sure there are women out there that would take advantage. Do men (sorry for the generalisation) not spend time with women they're not attracted to but whose company they enjoy? There must be occasions when you just want to go out and relax without being on the lookout for possible date? I can't speak for all women, obviously, but when I was single I did have times when I just wanted to let my hair down and not have the pressure of looking.
Now I'm greedy too? I'm the cause the oil crisis? You don't know me honey and do yourself a favor, grow up.
Or better yet, take your meds.
You shouldn't wonder why I'm single, you should ask yourself why you are.
I'd say five cars for personal use was a tinsy bit excessive.
No, I don't know you. I tend to avoid men who call me honey. I'm a perfectly sain and balanced individual who doesn't have to stoop to personal insults when I run out of reasoned argument. As I said, we may have to agree to differ, or do you think that anyone who holds a different opinion to yours is completely wrong and has no right to an opinion, how blinkered can you get?
Fair enough, if you think all women are beneath you and not worth bothering with, you just carry on. If a woman came on here and said the same of men she'd be hung, drawn and quartered.
Oh and if you'd looked at my profile you'd know that I'm not single.
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Posted: 5/22/2008 5:52:08 AM | Oh and if you'd looked at my profile you'd know that I'm not single.
Then that's completely different. If men already know you're taken, then sure they can be friends. A single woman though is a completely different story.
And BTW, I didn't want to look at your profile.
And I don't think women are beneath me. Just ask some of the other women around here on the forums what they think of me.
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Posted: 5/22/2008 5:56:12 AM |
are you 2 really still fighting like this??
seriously... get a room. you're so far off the topic you might as well start a new thread to argue with each other.... if you really can't stand each others opinion THAT much that you have to subject everyone else to this petty bullshit then you should just start a new thread. Otherwise try acting your ages and get a little maturity... do this through email or something else because this is getting really irritating.
You're quite right, I do apologise.
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Posted: 5/22/2008 6:07:44 AM | | Yes, they do think all of those things. Men are generally taught to have overinflated self esteems, with women, its the opposite. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 8:27:39 AM |
Yes, they do think all of those things. Men are generally taught to have overinflated self esteems, with women, its the opposite.
No no no no no. We're not taught anything. There's no secret "So You Have a Penis" guide that tells guys how to act, what to like, who to think is hot, so on and so forth. Some guys have overinflated self-esteem because they're egomaniacs, and if they were a woman they'd be just as intolerable and would probably make some sort of post insinuating that "How dare this fat guy talk to me, my vagina has a weight limit and you exceed it." Some guys don't really have an overinflated self-esteem, but are told (by women!) that they need to have more confidence. Now, here's the hilarious part:
Men with confidence who are fat, ugly, poor, or all of the above at once are "overinflated" or "egotistical", but men who are good-looking and rich will be seen as "confident" or assertive or whatever other word you want to tart it up with, unless they REALLY act out of line. It's all because you might look at a guy and think "What right does he have? He's so fat, he should be shyer. Go away."
Ladies, please get it into your heads that we're just as varied in our reasons and personalities as you. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 9:48:57 AM | If all men had to do to meet a woman was to go to a bar and sit there waiting for women to come to us, then men would feel the same way too. But men approach women, and few women approach men. But it's really hard to approach someone, and try to chat them up. Even if the men who are really good at it, say that 4 out of 5 women turn them down. An experiment with 80% result would be almost a done deal. So men are fighting the odds. The only things that even up the odds are trying for every opportunity you get, because you become better at approaching women with practice, and because the odds are against you. Add in the fact that nearly every woman doesn't want a non-confident man, and judge men based on how confident they appear to seem, and men have to act this way.
Men have to seem to think every woman wants them. It's not confident to think that the woman you're approaching might not like you. It's also going to make you much more nervous and you'll mess it up halfway through talking to her.
Similarly, if you aren't willing to believe a looker doesn't want you, that's not confident.
Similarly, if you think a woman has to be attracted to you right away, and she cannot become attracted to you after she speaks to you, then you lack confidence in your personality.
Similarly, since 8 out of 10 women will reject you, men cannot afford to be so picky to date only women they have stuff in common with. It's every man's dream to date a woman who likes the things they do. But they are not that common. If men only approached those women, they would have to wait for a long time before dating, and they'd lose practise, get nervous, lose confidence, and muck up the few chances they do go for. Way to be a nice, single eunuch.
The truth is that in a crowd, men will be prepared to date 35-40% of the women, rather than remain alone for the rest of their lives. But they only want to date between 1-5% of the women there too. They just know that they will be expected to approach the women, not the other way around, so the odds are so against them, that they have to widen their choice. Most men say that most of their dates are nothing like the woman of their dreams, and if they are lucky, they will manage to marry the woman of their dreams. But most men expect to just marry someone they can stand for a few hours a day.
Also, if a man is interested in dating, he's got to ask out at least 5 women just to get a date. He's got to approach a lot more than that, who will turn him down before he even asks them out. So if he's interested in getting a date before the end of the week, he needs to look at approaching 25 women. Who has got the time to approach 25 men in a single week, and talk to the men who aren't interested, but who still want to be friends?
If you want to see what it is like to be a man for a week, have a professional make-up artist make you up to look and dress exactly like the average man. But carry a bag of tissues with you, as you'll be rejected a whole lot more often than you'd imagine. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 10:35:49 AM |
Yes I see what you mean, I'm sure there are women out there that would take advantage. Do men (sorry for the generalisation) not spend time with women they're not attracted to but whose company they enjoy? There must be occasions when you just want to go out and relax without being on the lookout for possible date? I can't speak for all women, obviously, but when I was single I did have times when I just wanted to let my hair down and not have the pressure of looking.
generally women don't have good enough personalities so that you'd find them interesting and fun without the sexual attraction initially drawing you to her. Very few women are funny, (even female standup comedians often suck), rarely share our level of interest in sports, taste in entertainment, they are moodier. Maybe part of this is the 22-28 demographic I live in, but there are an alarming number of total bimbos. They say the word "like" every five seconds, completely narcissistic, even the dumpy ugly looking ones seem infected it by it. The myspace cohort is as thick as two planks and inclined to believe the annoying chatter that spills out of their mouth is interesting because people look at their webpage.
A funny, cool girl who is just interesting to be around but physically beneath our standards, they're scattered throughout the population. Yes we'll probably want to be their friend. As much as physical attraction matters to us, if they're decent looking at all they also have no trouble getting a boyfriend, because they're so rare and sometimes we get sick of the whiny megalomaniacal bimbos. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 10:45:00 AM | | Hey way to just insult every women... ever, good job | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 11:08:51 AM | The short answer to everything you mentioned is a big fat "no." At least, in my opinion that's the truth. I think most women do care about looks, money, jobs, social status and other factors. I certainly don't see anything wrong with that. After all, what kind of CEO of an oil company would want to date a janitor? Why would a Victoria's Secret model want to date someone who is ugly enough to the point where they'd give any deity an excuse for being pro-choice?
I think a lot of people can't see things my way and I think that's a huge part of the problem with the world. We all judge people no matter how much we claim we don't. It's apart of life. I say more people need to accept it and move on. However, there ARE those exceptions. I've seen a really ugly guy get a seriously beautiful woman as a girlfriend. I've seen a woman who practically runs the entire DMV for my state date a man who didn't really have a job except for the national guard.
While I totally can see why someone wouldn't want to date someone because of the above factors there are exceptions. Most of the time those exceptions are null and void. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 11:25:51 AM | | Luke's got a point. It's very, very hard to find a woman who makes you genuinely laugh. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 11:32:45 AM |
Luke's got a point. It's very, very hard to find a woman who makes you genuinely laugh.
That is, unless you're laughing AT her. Oh but I think only jerks like me would be so cruel. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 11:34:58 AM |
That is, unless you're laughing AT her. Oh but I think only jerks like me would be so cruel.
Hey, if somebody does/says something dumb, I'm going to laugh at it. I'd like to think I'm equal opportunity that way. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 11:36:21 AM | That is an interesting thing you proposed, the funny thing from reading all of these forums is that men have complexes over this stuff. So the truth is, not every man thinks a woman wants him reguardless of his lacking ways.
The truth is people can't talk one another into being sexually attracted to them, but they can show them a different side of themselves and get that sexual attraction. You never know what people are into and get turned on by. Like the librarian that is secretly a dominatrix.
As for the things in common, it depends on how much someone wants the other person. They will ignore every red flag, every wrong thing, every non thing they have in common to be with that person. Like if someone ditests smokers, and they are dating a smoker. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 11:45:37 AM | | Luke Nineteen...I've read alot of your posts and you seem to have quite a bit of disdain towards women, are you sure you arent going to swing for the other team? Im really feeling that you are trapped in the closet right now and you need to break out. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 11:56:14 AM | | You don't have to be gay to think women do/say dumb things sometimes. Are you really so egotistical that you think the only way a man would be critical of a woman is if he was gay? | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 12:02:40 PM | | Harry, save your energy. The second you criticize a woman around here it automatically means that you're gay, you hate women, your mother treated you like crap or you have some kind of vendetta. This makes me giggle. I tell you what, for a guy who is gay and for a guy who hates women I certainly have sex with them a lot... | |
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