| Do men really think
Posted: 5/22/2008 12:04:32 PM | | normally women shut up about that once you offer to prove you're not gay by having sex with them. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 12:05:52 PM | | Not the women I've been around. Most of them wouldn't shut up to save their lives. In fact, I'm willing to bet that even if they were to die they'd come back as ghosts and nag you even in death... | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 12:48:11 PM | Its a question of hope.
Most PEOPLE hope that someone they find attractive might actually like them...It works for both genders.
As an example, I honestly don't find you remotely attractive OP so I really don't care if you fancy me or not.....I hate to be candid but this is the way of the world. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 12:49:46 PM |
As an example, I honestly don't find you remotely attractive OP so I really don't care if you fancy me or not.....I hate to be candid but this is the way of the world.
Ouch... | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 1:22:06 PM | | Yes. Because it works. Fortunately, we got the good side of that coin toss in nature. Generally, we can be hideous trolls on the outside, but if we possess the right stuff on the inside, we can still do pretty well for ourselves with the ladies. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 1:25:57 PM |
Ok this confused me a little. It's not all about sex but if there's no sex on the cards you're not interested? Then it is all about sex.
I don't consider spending time with someone whose company I enjoy but am not attracted to as a waste of time. That's what friends do. To say that a woman isn't worth spending time with unless she'll sleep with you is not only insulting but short sighted. You're discounting 51% of the population as friends merely because they're women.
H.x
You're missing the point. Men don't think like women do. Generally, a straight man isn't ever going to be interested in being 'just friends' with someone they're attracted to. In fact, i'd say any man who does that is a masochist.
You have to understand, the man who hits on you then leaves when you're not interested is doing himself a favor. He's already attracted to you, being social with you will only make things worse and make him MORE attracted to you. Especially if you have a lot in common.
Hope that makes sense. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 1:34:35 PM | Even though it is a wrong thread, I ll post my opinion on male+female friendship in here anyway.
Personally I would love to have an equal friendship with a woman. However it is not as easy as it sounds. According to my experience atleast - It always ends up as an infinite chase. Those female-friends they never call you or show any interest, you always end up doing all the calling. And it is understandable, because if they did I would probably think they are interested in more than just a friendship. I guess they are probably afraid to misslead me. Still when you always have to call your friend and ask them if they wanna go somewhere or do something, at some point it creates a feeling of doubt. You doubt wether they really have good time or are just being nice to you. And it gets irritating.
I would never mind a normal friendship with a woman, where she would contribute to it as much as I would. But it is just hard to create one. I am still looking however, and I do have female friends, but it is so hard to make them understand that it makes me feel bad when they don't contribute to our friendship. Ofcourse if I were a man of confidence I would not care of such a thing. But I am sorry I lack in that department.
Just what I think. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 3:12:56 PM |
Luke Nineteen...I've read alot of your posts and you seem to have quite a bit of disdain towards women, are you sure you arent going to swing for the other team? Im really feeling that you are trapped in the closet right now and you need to break out.
I didn't realize I had a following. I think you are misinterpreting my disdain for stupid people, as a disdain for women. Call it a coincidence if you like... | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 3:29:29 PM | Oh dear another man hating thread !
Its the same for men and women.
We all hope that someone we find very attractive feels the same for us. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 6:30:55 PM | | Look woman, generalized cuts on men posed as lame rhetorical questions don't cut it here. If you've got something valid or legitimate to say or ask just do it. The attacks in the form of your lame questions are insulting. Perhaps seek better company? | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 7:45:41 PM |
Look woman, generalized cuts on men posed as lame rhetorical questions don't cut it here. If you've got something valid or legitimate to say or ask just do it. The attacks in the form of your lame questions are insulting. Perhaps seek better company?
Or at least have the decency to say something that at least two people can agree with...rhetorical questions get kinda boring... | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 8:17:46 PM | Do you realy want to know Bee Bee?
Cause the answer to ALL of your questions is YES.
SOME men think they are gods gift to women.
SOME men think that they can talk a woman into bed on the first date
SOME women CAN be talked into bed on the first date
MANY women like to date men with other interests. New experiences. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 3:31:32 AM | I revise my earlier statement and I'd now like to say I'm the man and can get anythin if Iif I take the time to do it.
At the very least, I can get somethin someone else wants no problem.
On a side bar, what's with all the treadmill dancing going on in videos now? | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 10:47:40 PM | I think it depends. What we are talking about here is men's own perceptions of themselves and the world they live in, which may not necessarily correspond with reality.
Some men are very self-confident to the point of over-evaluating their true worth. Very egotistical men (and women) are likely to assume either that they and their views are better than those of anyone else, and everyone does or should like them. Men with a more realistic sense of self-worth will judge their true value in more realistic terms, and will also be more accurate in their guesses on how other people judge them. Men with low or very low self-esteem may underestimate their ability to attract people and may fail to see when people show genuine interest in them, reasoning instead the interest is not genuine (it is motivated by some dubious intent focused on selfish gain) and is false.
Other men may have poor communication and social skills and can't read a woman's signals to him which show she is or is not interested in him, and may misread those signals to mean something which aren't actually the woman's intent (whether it be concious or not). | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 4:58:54 PM | | Join the club..we all get old, fat, dudes with kids, dudes who we would never be interested in...its par for the course...the men are playing a numbers game. They arent thinking about how compatible you'd be with them, they are just trying for anything, they've probably contacted like 40-100 women with the exact same email. Don't take it personally, after al, its the men who usually write first while we women have the luxury to sit back and let the emails pour in. It's like telemarketing to them, nothing more. Don't even bother with them if you arent into them, its easy. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 5:03:36 PM |
It's like telemarketing to them, nothing more. Don't even bother with them if you arent into them, its easy.
Doh! She's onto us, somebody silence her. 
Each email I send it unique, not canned like telemarekting. There are no scripts, just genuine "me-ness". I haven't sent out a lot of message though, maybe 20. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 5:12:06 PM | | Blah, I never got into copying my e-mails. I tried it once and I didn't like that. However, I do the same thing you do in that I just send e-mails that are unique. I wonder if that's a good thing or a bad thing though? Most girls I've met around here seem to respond well to redundancy. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 5:22:50 PM | It feels like a losing battle sometimes CanadianBeef.
Some people seem to believe the easiest way to judge something, as in generalizing, is the right way. 
We would think that a guy's behavior developed through internalizing all in this vast, very complicated world, would, over the course of decades, become a little more complicated than to be pegged so easily with a generalized trait.
Sometimes I think some people rely far too much on over-simplified pattern recognition in order to guage people using only one category to define them. 
This site has personality breakdowns somewhere on it. These are the types listed.
ISTJ, ISFJ, INFJ, INTJ, ISTP, ISFP,INFP,INTP,ESTP,ESFP, ENFP,ENTP,ESTJ,ESFJ,ENFJ, ENTJ
OP, although these personality abbreviations are not perfect reflections of a person's behaviour, it might be good to read up on them and see how wide a variety human behaviour, male or female, can truly be.
Just for fun, this is my personality type.
http://www.personalitypage.com/INFP.html | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 7:01:38 PM | Ah, this thread seemed like the question was "do men really hold this view of the world", when it was actually "how come guys who are so beneath me keep hitting on me?!"
Anyway, scorpio summed it up quite nicely - he does it because he finds you attractive, and because we get shot down constantly anyway, it's worth a shot if you might actually like him back (heaven forbid!)
Join the club..we all get old, fat, dudes with kids, dudes who we would never be interested in...its par for the course...the men are playing a numbers game. They arent thinking about how compatible you'd be with them, they are just trying for anything, they've probably contacted like 40-100 women with the exact same email. Actually no, not all of us do that - I use the advanced search tool (!), find specifically women that have some common interest or show some common views, write a well thought out mail, and then just get rejected 'cause I'm not hot.
Just because you're attractive and guys shoot the generic messages your way for the off chance, doesn't mean all of us are just blindly messaging, looking for any response.
I found a girl on PoF whose profile just completely spoke to me, we had a lot of common interests, and shared the same ideals about love and the like. Unfortunately (heh) she was also stunningly beautiful - so, no reply. I wouldn't not message her simply on that basis though, when I could see she might "get" me - I had to take a shot (yes, even if I'm unattractive and she's out of my league - gasp!)
Just for fun, this is my personality type.
http://www.personalitypage.com/INFP.html Another INFP, cool - we're rare (~1% of the population)! I'm partial to this description: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INFP
Also you live in my home town... okay that's... odd. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 7:11:43 PM | | Sex and love are easy, anyone can do either with little or no effort. But connecting to another soul, there are very few people willing to venture there. If you want to attract another soul and join with them spiritually, that is a challenging and very longterm deal. Most, like this thread, only scratch the surface of attraction. For those of us that use all of our being, inclusive of our soul, there is little that anyone can do to resist. We all want that soul connection, but those of us that are interested in reaching out to another's soul are not very interested in the superficial attention that we receive in return. Rare is the soul connection. That is the ultimate bond. Good luck to all you on the ant farm... | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 7:15:29 PM |
Do men really think that every woman wants him regardless to what he looks like or what kind of job he has or how smart he is????
It is well established most women are attracted to confident men. Confidence isn't about looks, job or smarts. Each of those can increase a mans confidence but it has to come from him before it can be increased.
Do men think they can talk a woman into being sexually attacted to them???
Thats called charm. Again most women can be charmed so if an ugly guy with a low paying job who isn't overy bright gets their attention with his brashness and confidence, charm (Humor, attention, empathy) can often become very attractive.
Also do men really want to have anything in common with the woman they are dating or do they think they will turn her on to a couple of new things???
Men are looking for a companion and lover, if they wanted another buddy they would go hang out with their guy friends. It is important to have a few strong bonds (Sex, affection, kids.) and then have enough other things in common to be comfortable doing things together but thats about it. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 12:17:05 AM | Y'know, I was actually talking to a guy I know about this a couple weeks ago. He does very well with women. I... don't. He said to me that the best way to go about it is to assume that every woman you meet is interested in you until she proves otherwise. I still have no real idea why this works, but his arms get tired from juggling them all, so he must know something I don't.
That said, I find the way you worded the question to slyly imply that some men just don't know their "place", and how dare they approach someone so "obviously" better than they are. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
When was the last time any of you guys showed an interest in being a friend after you'd realised she didn't fancy you? You just move on to the next one and so it goes on.
I'm guilty of this, and it's not because I "just want sex". It's because I already have plenty of friends, and I want a girlfriend. If I approach you in terms of wanting a girlfriend, and you're not interested in that, then yes, I am going to move on because we're not on the same page, as it were. Besides... hello, you just rejected me, why would I want to stick around after that? That's pretty much the very essence of crummy self-esteem, hanging around people who's communicated non-interest in you. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 8:39:38 AM | | actually i am quite able to be friends with someone that has informed me that they are not attracted to me.it depends on the relationship though.if i see them everyday,or have already realzed a friendship ,no problem.however if i just asked you to dance and had a chat over a few drinks.probably not so much. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2008 6:36:38 PM | | Most men are EGOmaniacs believing that if a female should smile & says hello its an indication that she's turned on by our pressence -- Guess most of us males are somewhat socially challenged. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2008 6:45:17 PM | | It doesn't matter what you look like, what kind of job you have, how smart you are. People have different tastes. I don't want a woman that's high-maintenance no matter what she looks like, what kind of job she has, etc. I know what I want and I'm going to find the right woman. I can't tell what kind of guy you like just by looking at you, so I'm probably going to come up and try to initiate a conversation. If I get rejected then whatever. I'll wait for the next woman to walk in that catches my eye. It's not that I instantly think you want me if you smile at me or say hello, but I'm going to take that chance and start talking to you and flirting a little. Nothing wrong with that! | |
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