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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 3:47:17 PM | aldarby
On what evidence are you basing your assertions? As for the economy, the democrats have had just a little less to do with the problems this country is facing as the republicans and their "fearless" leader. Is the economy "booming" in GA? I doubt it. How do you like $4 a gallon gas? I hope you have a gas guzzler.
The "war" in Iraq is costing us a fortune. It costs this country $4 BILLION a month, not to mention the loss of 4000 American lives and over a half million Iraqi lives. On top of the bill for this illegal and indefensable quagmire Dubbya has gotten us into, there is the cost of the other 30,000 plus soldiers who have been maimed. Not to mention their pain and suffering.
I guess that is no skin off your nose, Mr. Chickenhawk -- why don't you get up off that couch and join the service if you are so hot to stay in Iraq. Put your money where your mouth is!
As for the terrorists -- you can't prove a negative. You have no idea what President Gore what have done (and yes -- HE was elected, Dubbya was selected).
I don't trust the dems much, but I trust them a whole lot more than the Republicans who have proven what a worthless, hipocritical bunch of liars they are. You right wing nuts are so quick to call dems "tax and spend", but the republicans are spending us into bankruptcy. They have been totally irresponsible. | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 3:57:48 PM | ...."We love death"...."The USA loves life". "That is the biggest difference between us".
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yah thats accurate............... not . the usa loves death else why else would their whole economy be based on the fruitages of war and death
war mongers arms dealers , these are what are in the united states arsenal
why do you think globally the americans are less liked than even iraquis?
they are less afraid of suicide bombers than they are of mass carpet bombing or soldiers coming in and raping their children or throwing little dogs against buildings
After reading some of your posts you really don't understand what this country is about. You obviously hate this country and all that it "stands" for. That is fine. Your entitled to your opinion. A lot of Americans have "died" to preserve the right of self-expression. If you were living in a fundamentalist Islamic country you would not be allowed to express your opinions, listen to the music you like, and probably not dress the way you like. As far as what other countries think of the United States, your right that many of them hate us, including a lot of people like you that live in Canada. However, when a "natural disaster" happens or a "tragic" event makes the headlines, it sure seems to me that the American people always step up to help those in need. Everything from Tsunami relief to the current disasters in Asia. This country is not perfect. It never has been and never will be.
Your a "hateful" person who really doesn't understand the history and traditions that this country was founded on. I am proud to be a citizen of the USA, and as we remember those who paid the ultimate price to protect our freedom this coming Memorial Day, it is something you should remember. | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 4:13:53 PM | To the gentleman who offered the 7-part skepticism post, I can knock down each point you've established. As for the Empire having "trouble" keeping a conspiracy secret, that's the most popular deduction by those who believe the official story and mock 9/11 Truth. But the fact is, it really wasn't that vast, and didn't take that many people.
Actually, it's more than that. The ones at the top at the controls, pulling the strings, are arrogant and believe (quite accurately) that the majority will not believe 'conspiracy' and the entire idea is beyond them. Think about it! It's contrary to everything you've believed or been led to believe. IT IS A STRETCH - but, in this definition, it's a stretch to really consider that YOUR OWN government contributed or collaborated in the murder of its own people for its own ends.
There's a number of conspiracy videos on the internet but the main message is the same. The U.S. Government conspired against their own people and knew about it. It didn't matter who was President or who the two candidates were before the election even. There are elaborate webs of plans and schemes throughout the political sphere and economic system and this includes the construct of wars when desired. The theorists who believe this view it accurately as it is but it is still possible to evaluate objectively and see through any 'over the top' expression. I concentrate on the main ideas and these all point to accurate facts and conspiracy whether you like it or not. I don't care about critics saying that makes 'conspiracy theorists' morons because they prefer to believe 'mainstream version of events.' That is the status quo and the mainstream elites count on that because it makes them money and preserves their system and society that allows them to profit and benefit.
Also, consider this: many people kill for less. People kill for small compensation amounts. Is it really that inconceivable that they would kill to maintain high standards of living, to continue profit in their chosen industry, to profit from any event that allows them to preserve their greedy life style and material possessions? Why do you think they care about the people except for sources of money?
People forget that part. The facts that point to the conspiracy are difficult to dismiss since the critics can be seen to have an agenda. They have some corporation or huge conglomerate backing them. They have politicians or elites directing them or the elites/politicians control the legal/military/police/economic spheres of society and thus, it is not farfetched that they can 'get to' anyone who might consider or support conspiracy positions. However, they don't worry too much because the public is still skeptical and even laugh in the face of evidence. They're confident, no make that, arrogant, that few people will believe anything but the mainstream version. | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 4:35:33 PM | I see a lot of on-the-surface rejection and dismissal and ostricization toward demanders of 9/11 Truth, ... even a lot of lazy lumping together of LIHOP and MIHOP, two diametrically opposed movements.
However, not a single "nothing-to-see-here" Empire supporter has really dared to offer an explanation for the 9/11 Commission's profound conflicts of interest and refusal to subpeona, NORAD's convenient multiple war game simulations that morning, Pakistani ISI (an intelligence force our CIA made and maintains) wiring $100K to the lead hijacker, Hanjour's (Pentagon) documented inability to fly very well, and at least 5 of the 19 photographed "hijackers" admitting to foreign press that they're alive and well. In fact, none of you have really tackled the meat of the issue. You just rest on blind faith, and we're all "nuts." Noted.
Sorry, but you're choosing to enter a debate. And saying something is so (and nothing more) does not make it so. Imagine a defense attorney standing up and resting his entire case on "but, your honor, I don't NEED to refute these accusations. They're just craaaaaazy!" You guys may not feel a requirement to address the specific points, but being that lazy is NOT winning you the debate, nor convincing anyone. Not here, not anywhere.
Bush Leaguers or Conservatives, or war supporters (or whatever they wanna be called these days) are all the same when it comes to 9/11 and the fraudulent WoT. They want everyone to believe one coincidence on top of another coincidence, on top of another coincidence, on top of another coincidence, on top of another coincidence, on top of another coincidence. ... expecting us all to believe that it's completely feasible that a person could flip a coin 100 times and come up heads on each flip. Yes, of course. It's all just a series of coincidences that add up to complete honesty by our government -- the same kinds of people who orchestrated Tonkin, the Maine, Tuskegee, Northwoods, Mosaddeq, and on and on and on.
No precedent has been set, secrets mean a secure America, and Cheney has all our best interests at heart. Gotcha.
Now, if you direct your attention to page 347 of your Neocon Reich syllabus... you'll see maps of the Persian Gulf Region. ... and...  | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 4:50:22 PM |
If only the OP spent half as much time digging up stuff on the Islamic radicals as he does Bush bashing......................................
What does that have to do with our leaders lying? Anything at all?
Or, in the view of the right wing, is lying "negotiable" depending upon the perceived circumstances -- which are generally based on other lies in the first place? | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 4:58:24 PM | conspiracy,plots,collusion,the nuts bags should kiss clintons ass for getting the internet up and running,otherwise,you clowns would be stuck at home cooking theories until you blow.perhaps if the unibomber had the internet,he would be here ranting instead of blowin shit up! | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 5:03:35 PM | | Um Jeff buddy our leaders aren't trying to destroy me for not believing in a particular religion and quite frankly I am sick of these people who have nothing better to do than point fingers at Bush when ALOT of the problems were there prior to his taking office. Not that I agree with all he has done. I do agree that I'd much rather have this war over there and not here in my town. Then again maybe it takes that sort of thing to wake people up and see who the real threat is. | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 5:04:44 PM |
Bush bashing
2003 called, and it wants it's word back. 
Looking at where the country is , after eight years with him as president ?
Bashing's no longer even large enough a word to use to cover the damage he's done anymore. Are you better off now then you were in 2000 ? | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 5:06:43 PM | we are not terrorists,we are aggressors that openly start a war or retaliate.we don't drop off suit cases to blow up people walking to work,or cafes where people are shopping with children,or a bus load of people going to pray for a belief we disagree on
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hahaha omg dude u are a crack up lol
TERRORISTS RULE VIA TERROR
how many yanks locked their doors after 911, how many lived in fear every day bush came on tv and took away your rights and freedoms, how many were happy to give up those rights in order to feel safer?how many feel saferon an airplane now knowing that the dude in a turban next to you hasnt got any toothpaste in his luggage or that the baby in his mothers lap isnt allowed to even have a bottle ? lol
how truly blind you really are, you sold your souls and your freedom for some oil that you arent even going to get
were not the terrorists hahaha real terrorists dont use suit case bombs, they use the top military grade weapons their money can buy, they infiltrate and invade and then murder the civilian population then they set up a parasitic regime to replace the last parasitic regime, only difference is that this regime is paid off by the american taxpayer first
when the new regime gets tiredof being the new bitc h on the payroll and they say " OUT AMERICANS" the whole thing starts again.
and no you dont blow up little coffee shops or bus stops , hell no, you carpet bomb playgrounds and schools and shopping centers, why opt for just a few civilian casualties when you can get a whole wack of em in one spot.
the people you are referring to are freedom fighters, fighting for freedom from the yanky yoke, they cant use million dollar helicopters or lob nuclear waste at the enemy because they cant afford the tools of mass murder like the true terrorists.
terrorists invest most of their money in war and arms dealing and creating more efficient weapons to murder people with
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we support many allies and did not deserve to be bombed
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um if anyone on the earth deserves to be invaded and bombed...... id have to say it would be the united states . they are the aggressors in every conflict since ww2, noone has ever actually attacked them on their home ground, yet they have always massacred and commited genocide on anyone that didnt immediately drop their pants to answer the american telephone, the american people deserve to see war at its best, instead of in a safe newspaper or on tsn, maybe with a bit of home grown reality they will actually think twice before electing the next hate spreading war monger
the allies you refer to only got attacked because they were stupid enough to side with the true terrorists. its too bad britain actually sided wth the usa in this illegal invasion, youd have thought after the last tea party they had with yankies theyd have learned their lesson | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 5:20:20 PM | | its a role we had to assume because if your peoples.you start wars you cannot finish,in the end will always ask,where is america.we pull out,you do it again.how many preemptive moves do we have to make until you children stop fighting?further,we are complaining about fuel,but are still driving our vehicles,and eating steak.you sound like a fool,you don't live here,don't know how we live,except the biased writings from your not so free press.most iraqis want us out,but not before we get the bullshit out of there.you are a perfect example of being out of touch.i am no bush fan,but our boys are doing the right thing,we will liberate those people that asked for our help in the first gulf war,we let them down,its rough,but we can make more bombs. | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 5:21:44 PM | | to short and sweet if the media would quit tell the terroist where the troop are going to attack then the war would be over. Alos****shurm and kkk bird said if we took a million gallons of oil from saudi it would decrease oil by 25 dollars a barrel. If we took a million barrels of oil out of the united states the oil price would only drop one cent what a bunch a crockt ship. That away we would not have to pay state tax and then THE DEMOCRATS WOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO STAND ON. ALTERNATIVE FUEL LIKE CORN WE SHOULD BE SELLING IT AS FOOD AND NOT AS GAS AND RIGHT NOW ALL THE CORN PRODUCE IS MADE INTO GAS IT IS MADE INTO PLASTIC. THAT IS THE REASON HAMBURGER IS HIGH BECAUSE THE FARMER HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR FEED TO PAY FOR LIVESTOCK. IF YOU DON'T LIKE LEAVE OR DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 5:26:28 PM | i dunno,just paid $1.58 a lb for ground chuck,.47 cents a pound for whole chicken.brazil made sugar go up,but it stabilized,grains for fuel will balance out too.we stop buying and produce more of our own,lets see whom needs whom.fact is,without america,these blogs and free speech would just fade away,like dust in the wind......  | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 5:29:42 PM | | WHY IS IT THAT SINCE TH DEMOCRAT TOOK BACK THE HOUSE GAS HAS GONE UP 75 CENTS A GALLON AND WHEN THE GOP WAS IN CONTROL IT ONLY WENT UP 38 CENTS A BARREL.EXLPLAIN THAT | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 5:37:58 PM | when the democrat was president,never went above $1.50 a gallon.you going to keep repeating that bull.bush is in charge idiot.-------!!!------- Put this on your
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 5:51:26 PM | Re: this message from Jeff:
I see a lot of on-the-surface rejection and dismissal and ostricization toward demanders of 9/11 Truth, ... even a lot of lazy lumping together of LIHOP and MIHOP, two diametrically opposed movements.
That is too logical, intelligent and reasonably explained for others to digest. I'm afraid it will fall on deaf ears or should I say, won't register to the readers (namely, the skeptics, doubters or critics or whatever you wish to call them)? | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 6:07:23 PM | why do the gooftards always think we are stupid when we cannot comprehend those flawed theories they read about?in effect,you are saying bush attacked america,even though osama was filmed cheering,admitted they did it,declared intafda,and prophethised more holy attacks like that,only worse?so we are all stupid,and these things never happened,americans hired those fools to hijack jets and steer them into our main defense facility,and finacial market?to what end,if he wanted to do that,would he not have torn down the old wall street to effect total economic collapse?i mean,according to you,we are soooo stupid,please,entertain us before you take your next hit.  | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 6:15:35 PM | Hey people forget the 911 part already you are either going to look at the evidence or you won't but don't forget that since that day Bush has made it clear with all of his signing statements that his administration has all the power over you and with his arrogant elimination of your constitutional rights he is in essence a dictator now. That in itself is a treasonous act against the constitution and the Bill of rights.
Now tell me that as a logical people when you were told that the patriot Act carried with it a sunset clause and then was amended to keep you living in tyranny with the Patriot act II and the military commisions act that you can think that he had intentions of every giving you back those rights ? Please ?? Use your heads!
Not to mention another signing statement that grants him and his cronies impunity for any and all war crimes that he did since 911.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHQ7Prwh7Gc | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 6:19:42 PM | This thread started out with the op posting a story that was out dated.It was about a lawsuit that was throw out of court because it had no legal basis.That was almost 4 yrs ago.Its a dead story.fini. Get it.
As for Bush,he'll be out in Jan. 09 and you people will have to find something else to b!tch about. | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 6:22:10 PM | eric I doubt he's going anywhere , but we'll see if he doesn't declare martial law this summer huh ? He has every right to stay in office if you read the military commisons act .
Keith olbermann discussing this -----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEwKSQm8Z6o | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 6:22:10 PM | | amen,we have to fight this unpatriot act.there have been a few gains,and we still have our guns,even the brady bill expired,i think they left it alone to appease a few choice groups,now we have our automatics back,for now.lets see,we now have random phone taps,scary big brother thing.still have to watch what you say.i hope we can stop having laws on top of laws.some things are seemingly the same,we can travel state to state,but we all get a little iffy when the law is behind us.am i the only one that noticed police beatings have gotten more severe and more often since that bill was passed? | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 6:29:51 PM | Hey trouble,
Next time Canada and GB are getting their butts kicked,we need to keep our heads in the sand and let you people lose.Maybe we should have let you people be forced to be Nazis.
At least then I wouldn't have to hear you claim that all US Armed Service Members are murderers.The Nazis wouldn't you let speak at all without going to the concentration camps.
You should be thanking God for the USA,because all the GB and Canadian forces were locked up on that tiny Island or Japanese prisoners. | |
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| Is Bush finally being tried for destroying America ?
Posted: 5/22/2008 6:36:14 PM |
The Nazis wouldn't you let speak at all without going to the concentration camps.
You are aware that there are now over 800 FEMA (concentration) camps in America for just that reason don't you ? They know that Americans are pissed about losing their rights and their homes to the preditory lenders who have ironically been aided and abetted byt the Bush adminstrations federal reserve ( illegal Banking mafia ) . Dude have you been paying attention at all ? | |
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