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 joejoe82

Joined: 6/7/2007
Msg: 151
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Posted: 5/25/2008 1:50:04 PM
this sort of thing ceased being "cool" after my senior year of highschool
 nocatchyname

Joined: 1/15/2007
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Posted: 5/25/2008 4:03:07 PM
*comes in from working on his car stereo*


Probably more like a three-time moron given that:
** you're out all that money ...
**if you were living and driving in Sarasota, Fl. (and soon, hopefully many other cities) you're gonna get fined for it and also the car will be impounded ...
**you're going to need hearing aides by the time you're 30 years old (as opposed to eventually 75 or 80 years old).


**So spending money on a hobby is a bad thing...tell this to golfers who spend hundreds - if not thousands of dollars - a year on memberships to golf courses, not too mention their clubs, for just one other example. On the other hand, when I sold my system. I got over 1/2 the money I put in it back. Not too mention, almost all of the equipment I have now, was I already owned, even though it is now 6+ yrs old, it still works great. So I'm thinking my investment has paid for itself with the enjoyment I've received out of it. Like I've said before, judging someone because of their hobby that you don't understand is wrong. In your logic, I could call golfers morons for spending their money on clubs, and course fees, simply because I do not enjoy or really understand how someone could enjoy golf. On another note, I've let "friends" *borrow* money, being young and stupid, and had them turn around and not only was I out the money but my supposed friend too (live and learn). I've made a lot worse choices with my money than spending it on things I enjoy. No regrets spending any money on stereo equipment for me.

**I got pulled over twice for having it turned up too loud, and let off with a warning both times (in 2 1/2 years). Once was down the main drag of the beach near here, on a hot sunny saturday afternoon...yea that was ignorant, but I was young and single showing off. The other time was on an side street in town, mid afternoon, that had no other people or cars on it (minus the motorcycle cop hiding), and I only had it at half volume. As one cop told me, my car was very regonizable, which was true, and I live around a small city (~20,000ppl) with it's own police force so my car was surely marked by the both the city and provincial cops in the area, and I'm sure they would've pulled me over any chance they could get, if they could've caught me with it too loud (and when you could hear me at full volume from at least 6 blocks away - 3 if traffic was really heavy - you think it would be pretty easy). I must have had some consideration to turn it down at the right times, not to have been pulled over and ever fined.

**I suppose I will have to wait and see when I need a hearing aide...I was hoping for 28, but if you are going to give benefit of the doubt and say 30, I suppose I could work with that. Sidenote : I know a lot of people who don't even have cars let alone car stereos, and will still need them due to mp3 players (before that portable cd players, before that portable cassette players) and the headphones - which they subject themselves to for longer periods of times. So I don't feel so bad. Hm...now that I think about it, considering how long portable music players have been around, and how "dangerous" they are to your hearing, it's amazing that the 30 year olds of today don't need them. Not too mention the guys I know who have been car audio for well over 10 years and still have amazing hearing...doesn't seem to be a big of an issue by 30 as people think. Maybe we should up the age to 40 so we can find out in 10 years or so if that would be the correct age to say those in car audio would need hearing aides.

So if I'm a 3 time moron, I suppose you don't read my posts very well, or understand my choice in a hobby. As I've stated already that I normally try to have consideration for others. Although back when I was 19/20, yea I was an ignorant prick who didn't always give a shit about others, I was still considerate to others at stop lights and the like (although I think in retrospect, it may have been out of fear of getting pulled over more than anything). Thanks for coming out though, I always love a good conversation where I actually know what I'm talking about, and others make assumptions about it because they don't know.

Btw, if I haven't said it before. I am not defending the idiots who don't do it as a hobby, and nor try to incoporate sound quality into their systems. Those who aren't considerate to at least some extent of other people. I am here simply stating that there are a lot of people who do consider it a hobby. They enjoy and take pride in their systems. They are also usually fairly considerate, and generally good people for the most part. So making generalizations about the group as a whole, is wrong, 1 idiot can spoil it for the rest of us, 100's of idiots make it worse...but truthfully that goes for anything. Or else the saying "1 bad apple spoils the bunch" wouldn't be as popular as it is. I don't really care if the idiots are in the majority, they usually are. To go back to comparing to golf. There are a lot more people who golf for fun, and don't take it seriously than those who do. Hell, if I made a judgement on golfers from my experiance, they are a bunch of drunks and/or pot heads. I would never honestly say that, because I have met a couple who do find the enjoyment of having it as a hobby, and they are the ones who spend the most money on it. I can respect them for pouring their money into their choice of hobby despite all the idiots I know who play it, usually just as a side to drinking heavily. Why do you have to be so ignorant of mine, just because there are a bunch of idiots who partake in it and don't do it for the real enjoyment of it all? <--hypothetical question, I don't really care. Your opinion is not going to make me enjoy it any less.
 TLC_

Joined: 1/26/2008
Msg: 153
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Posted: 5/25/2008 4:50:35 PM
As you say, people with mp3 players and headphones could need hearing aids too for having them so loud, but in their case its only themselves who get to hear the over bass noise.
With a car stereo everyone is forced to hear it, for example, at an intersection , even in their own car windows up and their own stereo on some ppl have their system so loud it can be heard as it approaches the lights. There is no need for it, listen to whatever you like, but don’t force others to hear it too.
 FredHH

Joined: 1/24/2007
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Posted: 5/25/2008 5:22:51 PM

Posted By: johncorbeno
I think what you are referring to is ghetto, but how many people do you really know with a thirty year old rustbucket and a $3000 stereo?


There are a few neighborhoods near here where that's the norm...

People who have cars that often wont even move... and stereos that they blast rattling windows for 3 blocks.
The put on the fancy windmilling hubcaps and neon lighting systems and never change the oil.
"looks good"(to them...) "Sounds good" to them
And totally USELESS for transportation.

Morons

Maybe if they put as much money into maintaining the engine, tires and brakes as they did in the stereo... the car might be driveable.
 johncorbeno

Joined: 3/27/2008
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Posted: 5/25/2008 5:27:37 PM
Lol, this topic has gone on way to long...

As far as the 'rice comments' go, well please remember you are generalizing. A lot of individuals in their mid 20/30's where into four-banger way before the fast and the furious came out. My Acura will pull 13's in a 1/4 mile, gets thirty miles to the gallon, and looks awesome (no I don't have a crazy batman bodykit, I opted for the simple lip kit). There are local guys who pull sub 10 second 1/4 mile times in turbo-charged four-bangers.

Also I would like to point out that I have a 300 watt mono amp for my subs and a 1200 watt 4-channel powering my pioneer 6.5 4-way speakers. My system is not superb, but it is balanced and sounds awesome for the amount of money I have invested in it.

Let's just agree that people in general are inconsiderate, have different priorities, viewpoints, and hobbies, and that more than likely the younger generation will continue to annoy older generations (I'm 24 and they already annoy me).

John
 Glock22shooter

Joined: 9/26/2005
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Posted: 5/25/2008 5:33:55 PM
My stereo system sounds good, my exhaust sounds better At the moment I have about 400 hp on the ground, naturally aspirated. I'm planning a rebuild to put about 650 blown hp to the ground by way of a vette rear end. I'm also gonna take out the rear seats, one, for room for the wider tires, two, to integrate a nice box into the car.

Some how I don't think hearing one of the people that looks at men's**** at stop lights call me a moron will hurt my feelings.
 nocatchyname

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Posted: 5/25/2008 5:47:19 PM

With a car stereo everyone is forced to hear it, for example, at an intersection , even in their own car windows up and their own stereo on some ppl have their system so loud it can be heard as it approaches the lights. There is no need for it, listen to whatever you like, but don’t force others to hear it too


*grabs his bat and beats a dead horse*
While beating this dead horse, I will once again bring up people who talk on their cell phones in public...which I really don't care about, it's a minor annoyance that I may have to put up with for a few mins. of my day, but I'm not going to let it bother me...but since we are on to making redundant points that have already been established and accepted (by most involved)
 lucretia21

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Posted: 5/25/2008 5:52:28 PM
Okay, using this logic is a bit silly, isn't it?

Not everyone wants to see some couple make out in public, not everyone likes to smell other people's food, while they're out somewhere. Not everyone likes the same music, not everyone wants to hear your cell phone conversations.

We don't always get what we want, and we all have pet peeves that we're unfortunately going to be exposed to, while out in public. The solution, clearly, is never to go out in public, or *gasp* we might come across something that we don't enjoy, and have no control over!
 rosesforyou

Joined: 6/10/2007
Msg: 159
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Posted: 5/25/2008 5:55:12 PM

thank you for that laugh!! I'll admit to actually thumping that out in my head as I read it! LOL


I think OP is might actually like my system/speakers.

[quote[Thank you for your consideration and your honesty.... humans by nature do like to seek attention and I do understand that..... even if you would drive me crazy!!

No problem, I do understand both sides to this thread, I do find some of the comments to be quite rude towards us with the car systems considering that from the comments I read, I would say it seems that most including me try to be considerate of other drivers. Sorry if that does not reflect maybe the select few drivers who have the "I could care less attitude" but I feel some of the comments are quite rude and tend to lump everyone who has a BOOM BA BOOM BOOM system in there vehicle to be jerks and that is wrong.
To the ones who sit in traffic for long periods of time and crank up the music to rattle other peoples doors, yes I agree that is not being considerate. I get the impression though that some people who are against loud car stereo systems probably let there own feelings get a bit out of hand when a driver happens to be near them for even a few seconds with a loud system. I don't see a big deal in that, considering it's like walking by someone at a mall or someone in front of you for a moment in line in a store. You might not like what they say, wear, or whatever but after all in a few moments they will walk by you, drive past you, move out of the store that your at ect and then they are never to be seen again.



Again, I thank you.... I'd really hate to have to fart in your window like I described in my opening post!


OP I just got this picture in my mind. <---- Imagine cop pulls up after two drivers are outside of there vehicles arguing. Cop says, "whats the problem" Driver one says 'she just walked up and passed gas at me!!!!' OP says 'he made my windows rattle so I needed to pass gas in his'
 laughinglibra

Joined: 11/6/2007
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Posted: 5/25/2008 6:15:08 PM

OP I just got this picture in my mind. <---- Imagine cop pulls up after two drivers are outside of there vehicles arguing. Cop says, "whats the problem" Driver one says 'she just walked up and passed gas at me!!!!' OP says 'he made my windows rattle so I needed to pass gas in his'




At the price of gas these days, too bad we couldn't figure out a way to bottle it!! HAHAHAHA


I think OP is might actually like my system/speakers.


I probably would! I never said I didn't like it in the right place at the right time..... BOOM BA DA BOOM BOOM.... BOOM BA DA BOOM BOOM....
 johncorbeno

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Posted: 5/25/2008 7:16:59 PM
Glock22shooter that's awesome man, one of my friends is putting down 340 to the wheels of his T/A and expects to add another 30-40 whp after his tune. His car is awesome but I like having something more practical for a daily driver.

With premium hitting 4+ a gallon it's hard enough with a 4cyl that clocks 30mpg...

John
 meetrman

Joined: 6/22/2007
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Posted: 5/25/2008 7:52:33 PM
When the time comes to hand out the Darwin Award on this one, I sure do hope it goes to Mr. Subwoofer for failing to hear the fire engine at the intersection - and not to the poor chump that by the luck of the draw happened to wind up next to him at the light...
 cotter

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Posted: 5/25/2008 7:53:00 PM


Probably more like a three-time moron given that:
** you're out all that money ...
So spending money on a hobby is a bad thing ...
No ... not if you can use it to your heart's content without offending or imposing on others ... or disturbing their peace and quiet. I merely meant that if they really do crack down totally on that offensive crap ... you'll have no use for your car system, thus "you're out all that money".

I'm particularly offended and disturbed by it because when I have to work 2nd or 3rd shift and am desperately trying to get some sleep, the hoodlums cruising up and down my street during the day are so awfully inconsiderate. They know it's so loud that it makes cups walk across the counter top. I fail to understand the need to force others to listen to their choice of "music".

I have a hobby I have also invested money in ... I have my own professional Karaoke equipment and openly admit that I too enjoy listening to certain songs quite loud from time to time. With that equipment, I could easily blast my neighbors out of their house but I choose not to impose my taste in music on others.

Given the shifts I work, I'd be blasting it while they sleep ... right? Now why would I want to do such a thing to others?


**if you were living and driving in Sarasota, Fl. (and soon, hopefully many other cities) you're gonna get fined for it and also the car will be impounded ...
**I got pulled over twice for having it turned up too loud, and let off with a warning both times (in 2 1/2 years).
If people have the money to pay fines and can eventually afford to keep bailing their vehicles out of the impound lot and really and truly want to throw their money away like that ... then I suppose they need to go for it.

Personally, I find it quite stupid to repeat any situation that foolishly separates me from my hard-earned money, but I guess others have so much that it just doesn't matter to them.


**you're going to need hearing aides by the time you're 30 years old (as opposed to eventually 75 or 80 years old).
**I suppose I will have to wait and see when I need a hearing aide...I was hoping for 28, but if you are going to give benefit of the doubt and say 30, I suppose I could work with that.
Again, I was just going out from my personal view. For me, having to wear a hearing aide at any time in my life would be quite annoying ... the thought of having to have something in my ear just to hear my loved ones say something to me ... well I just can't imagine that I'd enjoy that. Naturally, I can't imagine that anyone would willingly want to damage their hearing to the extent they would ever need them, not to mention that they are quite expensive. So ya ... I do consider that moronic.

The bottom line for me is that those who are out there doing this are certainly annoying, but I do not understand the need for them to impose/force their "noise" on others. If someone is standing near me talking on a cell phone, I could easily plug my ears and block out the sound, or just move to the other side of the room, but with the booming cars, one really just does not have that option.

I guess it's the "level" of inconsideration and the flippant attitude that astounds me. I'm not surprised at the rate our jails and prisons are filling up ... so many social deviates out there.

They're selfish and simply do not care about anything but their own gratification. They're so focused on what they want and in satisfying themselves that they totally ignore how what they're doing is affecting others. Add to it that they just don't care.

It makes me sad to think that the youth of today are so void of caring. And it also makes me wonder what kind of people raised them ... that they failed to provide their children with a good example of what it's like to care about others and be considerate of others.
 Glock22shooter

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Posted: 5/25/2008 8:04:01 PM
Heck John, I only get 11 mpg as it is. But I'm only home on weekends, I use a work truck for my commute so I don't drive very much at all outside of work. Luckily the compression is low for now, so the only thing I'm buying premium for is my 4 wheeler.

But when that blown LS2 gets dropped in, she'll get nothing but premium
 lucretia21

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Posted: 5/25/2008 8:34:19 PM

I guess it's the "level" of inconsideration and the flippant attitude that astounds me. I'm not surprised at the rate our jails and prisons are filling up ... so many social deviates out there.


Beacuse of loud music? This is a joke, right? It just has to be a joke.


They're selfish and simply do not care about anything but their own gratification. They're so focused on what they want and in satisfying themselves that they totally ignore how what they're doing is affecting others. Add to it that they just don't care.


I think this is getting a bit dramatic, don't you? I mean for crying out loud, it's freaking music! I don't have a stereo system that I drive around town pumping, and i'm not a girl whose attention is attracted by this. I love music. I have invested a lot in music, over the years. My taste differs greatly from that of most of my generation. That being said, it's music! It's not like they're driving around blaring Hitler's speeches from their stereo speakers. Nobody is going to die because of this. I am sorry, but if you really think that 30 seconds of your life is worth that much, then who is the selfish one here? Lighten up a little bit. It's not going to kill you. It may not be your cup of tea, but again, we all have our pet peeves and if it really affects you that much, you should just lock yourself inside.


It makes me sad to think that the youth of today are so void of caring. And it also makes me wonder what kind of people raised them ... that they failed to provide their children with a good example of what it's like to care about others and be considerate of others.


This is frustrating for me, because I am part of that "youth of today". I care about other people, and have dedicated most of my life to putting other people ahead of myself. I am involved in many charity initiatives, am the first one to help an elderly person I see struggling with something. I was raised with very good family values, attended a Catholic school and church on Sundays. I am considerate of everyone around me at all times. I understand, however, that not everyone has the same values and tastes as myself, and I try not to put myself in situations where these things will be compromised. I find it incredibly insulting that you would label me this way, and have the audacity to question the example i've been lead by, because of the volume of a kid's stereo! I think the problem isn't with this younger generation being disrespectful and not caring about other people, but rather the previous generation's inability to accept anything that they don't enjoy. (Including the young generation!)
 nocatchyname

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Posted: 5/25/2008 8:57:43 PM

I merely meant that if they really do crack down totally on that offensive crap ... you'll have no use for your car system, thus "you're out all that money".


But as a hobbiest, I would not be out all that money, because there are places where I could use that system in a legal manner. Just like guys who have to trailer their cars to shows because they are not street legal. I could always keep it turned down if they really cracked down on it.


If people have the money to pay fines and can eventually afford to keep bailing their vehicles out of the impound lot and really and truly want to throw their money away like that ... then I suppose they need to go for it.

I agree with you, if people want to pay fines, and pay to have the car impounded. Good for them, I was simply stating that I only got pulled over twice, so I must have been having some consideration for people around me, with the fact of my car being easily recognizable.


As for the rest of it, you are right, it is inconsiderate and selfish. But it has nothing to do with how they were brought up. Young, immature people are defiant and inconsiderate. Hell, I know supposedly mature adults who are just as selfish in different ways. Ie, people on Harleys and other types of motorcycles with exhaust systems that would drown out even the largest car audio system, and the loudest car exhaust system. It seems to be acceptable for the muscle car to have a really loud aftermarket exhaust, where it is condemned on any import, to have a similar performance enhancing exhaust. So please don't generalize it to a generation.

On a side note : I'm sure when you were in your teens/early 20's you were perfect and considerate of everyone and everything around you, as were all your friends. I apologize on behalf on a generation who has been so poorly raised. *glass house scenario comes to mind*
 cotter

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Posted: 5/25/2008 11:16:50 PM

Hell, I know supposedly mature adults who are just as selfish in different ways. Ie, people on Harleys and other types of motorcycles with exhaust systems that would drown out even the largest car audio system, and the loudest car exhaust system. It seems to be acceptable for the muscle car to have a really loud aftermarket exhaust, where it is condemned on any import, to have a similar performance enhancing exhaust. So please don't generalize it to a generation.
Yes ... you are quite right. In the area I live, it's primarily the youth who are being so inconsiderate, but I will admit, there are a fair share of Harley's zooming by and there is no mistaking the grey hair.

I have been contacted by men who ride Harley's but am not interested because I do not like the noise factor involved. I have had men friends who ride ... but they rode BMW's and Honda Gold Wings ... very quiet machines indeed.

On a side note : I'm sure when you were in your teens/early 20's you were perfect and considerate of everyone and everything around you, as were all your friends.
Sorry dear ... you're talking at a person who did not have anything handed to them on any kind of silver platter. I had no transportation of my own until I was at least 21 years old. I grew up in a very encapsulated neighborhood ... not even a public bus near.

We were poor and there was no money for extra automobiles for the teens in the house. Because we were so isolated, there were also no opportunities for teens to find work. We were expected to go to school and do well so that we could earn scholarships for college. If that was not an option, we were expected to earn our own college tuition. So I did a double major in high school ... business prep and college prep ... so I'd be able to take shorthand and type for a living in order to earn money for college.

We were not allowed to date until after we got out of high school and there were no "teen" hangouts in our little neighborhood. We lived so far from a public library that all we had was the Book Mobile in summer. There was no movie theater or fast food place within several miles (at least 5 ) of our home.

I apologize on behalf on a generation who has been so poorly raised. *glass house scenario comes to mind*
I may sound rather naïve, but while I grew up in a generation that produced a lot of pot-smoking hippies not to mention it was the sexual revolution, I did not participate in any of that. I also did not tolerate any of that behavior from my own four children.

As for a previous poster and her idea that I might be rather intolerant of others' taste in music ... WRONG.
I love music. I have invested a lot in music, over the years. My taste differs greatly from that of most of my generation.
I too have invested a lot in music over the years. I play several musical instruments, sang with the Columbus Symphony Chorus, played in the Ohio State University orchestra, played in a Medieval Brass Chorus while living in Germany (for 10 years), still put on vocal performances, ...

What I am intolerant of is being "trapped" in traffic (much longer than just a few seconds) with that noise. It's infuriating to see those cars so loud that they do not hear emergency vehicles and actually just sit there ... totally unaware ... with the squads flashing their lights and sounding the sirens. For those of you who think that's perfectly fine, I hope someday you're not the one who needs the emergency help that the loud booming car is casually sitting there blocking because they didn't hear it and pull aside.

What I am intolerant of is being rudely awaken in the middle of "my" night (much longer than just a few seconds) with that noise. I'm trying to understand the purpose of continuously driving up and down the streets of quiet, quaint neighborhoods blasting that stuff. Those people aren't even residents here ... they don't even live here. It puts me in mind of the ice cream truck that just cruises up and down the neighborhood streets playing their catchy little tunes trying to lure the children to the curb.

So NO ... I'm not just here b!tching about a few seconds of my day. When a person is accosted by it continuously, it's not just something that is easily brushed off. May I also say that if it was not that big a deal, towns everywhere would not be making it against the law to blast that crap.

It is offensive and inconsiderate and it can be quite dangerous to the surrounding traffic as well. If they're playing around in the car, jiving to the trance and swerving all over the road while they're at it (as I have often seen) ... they can't hear the horn when we blow it as they swerve into our lane and practically side swipe us either.
 nocatchyname

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Posted: 5/26/2008 12:02:14 AM
Fair enough cotter. To your whole reply. I thought I grew up sheltered from the real world. Btw, I had no silver platter feedings either. Altho I did apparently have more luxuries than you, my first real mode of transportation was my bike which I suppose as a 13-15 year old after cutting lawns and other such chores for years before that, was rewarded with such, until which time I could work a real summer job and earn enough money to by a bike that more suited my needs. I worked for and earned everything I have ever owned. So don't think because I spent my money the way I wanted to, it wasn't earned. I remember seeing the really rich kids get what they wanted without having to work for it, and it made me sick (this goes from experiances with mountain bikes, to cars, and stereos). Since they didn't respect what they were given. Which is why I defend my actions, and others who do have respect for others but still enjoy loud stereos.

I just wanted to be sure you weren't generalizing it as an everyone with loud stereos are jacka$ses, which is originally how you came off. I feel sorry for you living around such people. But wanted you to be aware, that there is more to it, and generalizing is as offensive and inconsiderate to some as you find some of these stereo kids to be :)
 partof1

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Posted: 5/26/2008 1:00:58 AM
Hi nocatchyname,

You're talking to a guy who took a drill, file, and tube of liquid metal to his Rochester Quadrajet 4 barrel carb that no mechanic would have touched and for which every repair manual said don't touch. Goal of that was to enlarge all of the critical fuel passages/wells, and smooth airflow. It eliminated any hesitation, pulled at least twice as hard, and burried both needles after that, in half the time it took to do it before.

While I was doing that on my kitchen table, I was ******** bricks because I really had no idea if I'd even get it together again, if I'd just ruined it completely, or if I'd be able to find or afford a suitable replacement if I did ruin it. It turned out to be one of the cheapest and most effective mods I ever did to it.

How do rice runners of today achieve that? Pop in a "hot chip"!?! The same chip eeeeeverybody else paid 200$ for. ooooohhh, well that's impressive, that's unique.. nice work there Hollywood.

Lego's for architects? I will say there's no doubt the odd rrrrrare exception, but mostly not. To that same degree, I have no respect for a guy in a 50's coup that bought his bondo bucket at Boyd's hot rods either. That's basically a parasitic ego sucking aspect to an otherwise highly skilled hobby. Mind you if he ever scrapped his own knuckles building it, then I'd love to hear his story.

These other goofs who are the vast majority like to lean up against it, spending hours pointing to every part, telling you how far they had to go to buy it, how much they paid someone to install it and how long they had to wait for it to be finished. It's embarrassing that they think you should find that interest, I actually fall asleep to such stories. I do not consider them hobbyists. I do not consider them skilled. I consider them talentless loud mouths. These are the guys who are "compensating". There exists an industry to relieve them of their money.

It's also difficult to have much respect for those who's passions are hollywood/MTV programmed to begin with. That's also why we all respect white guys acting black... it's so unique and original, how could we who are so out of touch have anything but respect?

In the same way, Car audio again is lego land. You think I have no clue just for dismissing it for being as stupid and pointless as it truly is, but that's a wild assumption on your part. Hey, how many times do you pull over on the side of the highway, and pop the trunk to watch a big screen LCD...... that's daft.

Again, I see no skill in the art of stupidity. Sealing up the car, reinforcing to reduce rattles and improve compression, adding batteries, alternators, cap banks that 99% of them could not even explain what they're truly for, thicker wires, digital EQ, tuning the boxes to the natural resonance of the car for an extra few "free" DB, finding the hottest spot for the recording mic to sit..... bla bla bla... pretty well describes the entirety of it huh?

I fail to see that as a hobby, and I do not mistake such knowledge as skill, and sill stand by my statement, if a single tone is a hobby for you, you're easily amused=fart competition, and I have heard farts that are more textured and musical than any of those systems.

I've designed cutting edge power amps, decades more advanced than anything you'll see in car audio. I spent thousands of hours working on it before spending dime 1, or ever hearing a single note play on it. I am _that_ hardcore. My current house system, rock concert power with orchestral quality, neutral, transparent, absurdly clean power, and doesn't care what kind of load it has to drive. It drops jaws and blows minds.

Electronic music is not music, it's meant to be loud, there's no ambience or microdetail to it, merely a sense of imaging if they've done a good job of it. Real music has natural ambience because it's not computer generated but recorded from real instruments in a real venue with real surroundings for which some impression of the entire experience is captured. That bass test crap is amusing it lacks all of those qualifiers.

I can tell you of experiences like when a buddy of mine with his single tone generating rice runner started off saying "yeah but it will never have bass like my car does".... to which I agreed. He finished off saying "How can I get bass like THAT in my car", the answer? Sorry, you can't.

There is no skill in waxing /detailing a car properly. Ok sure, there's skill in tying your shoes or wiping your *** too, but anyone can do it if they're shown the technique and they take a little pride in their work. So big deal?

I how you better understand where I'm comming from now.
 celts123

Joined: 5/15/2008
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Posted: 5/26/2008 9:51:32 AM
Loud trucks and motorcycles, people who are constantly yakking on their cell phone, people who smoke in front of your face, couples who are all over each other in public, people who drive 15-20 mph below the speed limit, people who cut their lawn at 7am on a Saturday morning etc can be just as annoying as loud music, if not more. I'm sure pretty sure that at least some of the people who complain about loud music also do some of the things that I mentioned. As stated earlier, loud music only would bother me if someone was blasting it at 1am in a residental area.
 lucretia21

Joined: 11/13/2006
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Posted: 5/26/2008 10:17:23 AM
Cotter,

I can appreciate the frustration of having this "noise" in your neighbourhood at all hours of the night. I can appreciate that you don't like the idea of having to be subjected to something you don't enjoy, and there are times when it's incredibly inappropriate.

What I cannot appreciate is the attack that people go on, over these things.

With the state that our world is in, I think having to listen to someone else's music is hardly a travesty!

That being said, there are obviously SOME disrespectful people in your area, who take it a little too far. That's very unfortunate. For your sake, I hope that they pass a law. (For the record, where I live, there has always been a noise bylaw, completely unrelated to vehicles. If you're being loud after a certain time, you get a fine. Regardless of what it is you're being loud about ;) )

I just can't stand when someone paints an entire generation (my generation) with the same brush. We're not all disrespectful, selfish, criminals, after all. There's this beautiful thing that my generation invented, called the silent rave. It sounds like something you'd appreciate. We're not all bad.
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Posted: 5/26/2008 10:43:03 AM

Lego's for architects? I will say there's no doubt the odd rrrrrare exception, but mostly not. To that same degree, I have no respect for a guy in a 50's coup that bought his bondo bucket at Boyd's hot rods either. That's basically a parasitic ego sucking aspect to an otherwise highly skilled hobby. Mind you if he ever scrapped his own knuckles building it, then I'd love to hear his story.


They show off their bondo bucket as if it's the greatest thing since sliced bread and act so cool.

True story -- the guy I bought my Firebird from "seemed" to be a car guy. So, I'm checking it out to be sure I want to buy it, and I'm in the engine bay tinkering around and we wonder about the oil (the guy I brought along to help me was actually from this site, too) and I ask where the dipstick is.

"I don't know" was his answer. I was so shocked and asked how he didn't know, and he said he always had someone change the oil. Knowing where your fluids are seems like common sense to me.

SO he acted like this cool muscle car guy but in reality, he was clueless. He bought it from a buddy, put very little money into it (steel fuel line rusted, he replaced it with rubber and attached it with a wire tie) and got rid of it when it needed some work, though he claimed he just needed the money.

I love to crank my music up loud, but I have an everyday stereo system in my daily driver and with the windows closed you won't really hear anything. With the windows open I'm respectful and lower it significantly in residential areas.

I love how all of the people complaining are call elderly

 stellarbystarlight

Joined: 8/29/2007
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Posted: 5/26/2008 10:51:47 AM
It's an ego thing for the owner of the car. They like to think everyone is interested in them, that they love him so much that they will be thrilled with his music. Fat heads, all.
 Little_Wing

Joined: 3/3/2007
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Posted: 5/26/2008 1:04:36 PM
HirsutePamMuscleCarChick

re firebird

what year was it ... V6 or V8?

if it was a v8 was it a 305 or 350

90% of the time is on the passengerside... aka when ur staring down its the left hand side. there

the tranny dipstick is near the firewall also on the passenger side ...


reason being steering box/colum is in the way if its the driver side.

brakes r on the firewall driver side near the inner front fender...

powersteering is near the water bump, on the lower right hand side.
 x Tyler Durden x

Joined: 3/30/2008
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Posted: 5/26/2008 1:13:10 PM
loud music rocks! I love banging tunes out full blast but I'll turn the volume down when approaching traffic lights. as long as the music is decent, no cheesy clubland crap - proper trance only
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