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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/28/2008 6:45:18 PM |
As a nurse, I occasionally have to call a client (patient) and let them know a little ahead of schedule that I'm on my way and approximately when I will arrive. I can't even do that with all the noise of the booming car next to me.
cotter you're not supposed to talk on your cell phone while driving, it's dangerous . Just bugging...but seriously, those people are putting my life in danger moreso than the guy with a loud stereo is. I don't care where you are, cell phones should never be used while you are in the drivers seat and in the middle of the road (side of the road in park...ok) It's also against the law in many areas.
partof1...I delayed writing a reply so I could give some serious thought as to what your saying, and what I wanted to say. As opposed to just replying without really thinking out an answer (as I have in some previous posts).
1st off...I don't know "all" of your so called "rare" exceptions. The fact that I do know quite a few of examples from my small mostly rural part of the world, and even more from the larger cities in Ontario (let alone, all of Canada and the U.S.) would probably make it clear that they aren't as rare as you would believe. Maybe they haven't all gone to the extremes that you have...but not everyone can be as talanted and even multi-talented as you.
After thinking about it, I can realize I am fairly simple minded. I really don't mind either, other than it sucks for arguments with some people. That being said, not everyone who is involved in such "glorified fart" competitions are simple minded. But even if I gave you examples, it wouldn't matter, so I digress.
As for some more useless facts...as I thought about it some more with my simple mind. Who made you boss on deciding what the difference between "real" music and noise is?
According to dictionary.com. The definition for music is :
1. an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color. 2. the tones or sounds employed, occurring in single line (melody) or multiple lines (harmony), and sounded or to be sounded by one or more voices or instruments, or both. 3. musical work or compositions for singing or playing. 4. the written or printed score of a musical composition. 5. such scores collectively. 6. any sweet, pleasing, or harmonious sounds or sound: the music of the waves. 7. appreciation of or responsiveness to musical sounds or harmonies: Music was in his very soul. 8. Fox Hunting. the cry of the hounds.
Those are just a few of the many definitions. As you can see, music has many different definitions. So "real" music to one person may not be the same to another. Rap, electronica, dance...all examples of "real" music! Just because you don't see it that way, doesn't make it untrue.
Systems of that nature aren't the one tone fart machines that are the topic of discussion here.
So one tone fart machines with no sound quality at all are the only booming stereos around. There is no possible way that a system geared toward sound quality would have any booming ability. Also a one tone farting machine, with upgraded speakers and amps to improved sound quality also doesn't qualify for this discussion...is it not still a booming stereo? Which would be the topic of discussion...isn't it? (I apologize it I was straw grabbing again, simple mind ya know)
I will add though, that having a title implying you're a professional at something doesn't make you skilled at what you do. Thank you Captain Obvious...of course, I suppose you may have assumed I didn't already know this, so I can see your point of typing it out. I'm sorry for wording what I wrote improperly leading you to this assumption. I should have wrote "I consider how skilled professionals do it to be "properly", my mistake.
My simple, easily amused mind sort of lost the actual point to this argument. So let me try to get the facts straight.
1) A car audio system can never compare in sound quality to a home audio system. It will always be flawed...because...a high quality speaker in a proper enclosure hooked to a high quality amplifier, in a car could never equal the sound coming out of a high quality speaker in a proper enclosure hooked to a high quality amplifier in a home? I'm confused, sorry it's typical. 2) A bass test system, isn't designed to have any sort of sound quality. (Because there is no way to change the settings from competition to regular driving?) 3) Music is not "real" music, until you clear it with partof1. 4) I earned myself a cookie!
The last one is what I'm most excited about. partof1, I'm sorry for bothering you with my simple mindedness blabber and misunderstandings. Those against big booming stereos, I'm sorry you have to deal with as many as$holes as you do. Those for big booming stereos, be respectful/considerate if you aren't, if you are . Those interested in bass comps - I'll share my cookie with my fellow simple minded members  | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/28/2008 6:53:00 PM |
Okay ... I think we have established that the volume we're talking about is honestly loud enough to drown out conversation, radio broadcasts, etc. in others' vehicles that just happen to be in the immediate vicinity of the car with the booming stereo. I think we've also established that the drivers of the cars with the booming stereo systems are fully aware of this.
So what I'm really curious about is this ... How do you feel about that? Does that give you some sort of "high" knowing that you are basically preventing others from listening to their own choice of music, preventing others from having conversations, preventing others from hearing emergency vehicles? I speak of it in this way, because I do get into some very thick rush hour traffic and sometimes the people who have the booming stereo systems are either right beside me or behind me for miles and miles of very slow moving traffic.
As a nurse, I occasionally have to call a client (patient) and let them know a little ahead of schedule that I'm on my way and approximately when I will arrive. I can't even do that with all the noise of the booming car next to me.
I'm the type that would go out of my way not to bother others ... not to keep them from doing what they have to do, not to make them uncomfortable as they make their way home from a long day. I simply can't imagine being so inconsiderate and yet we see several posters in here actually bragging about such behavior.
I'm trying to fathom what that feels like ... so I asked, does that give you some sort of "high"? Does that make you feel "powerful" that from the seat of your car you can control others' lives ... control what they listen to, control that they can not even understand each other in their own vehicle, control that if an emergency vehicle was approaching, that they would not hear it and would not be able to move aside for it? (Let's hope it's not a loved one of the "booming car" that is waiting anxiously for the emergency vehicle that can't get through the traffic because others can't hear the sirens.)
Someone please explain this to me ...
It makes me feel normal? I guess. I don't think about the other people because I'm in my car. My car is my safe-haven. I blast my music because I like to play it loud. So if you're bothered by it sorry, but I'm not lowering it. I don't have problems with emergency vehicles because I can usually see them in one of my mirrors and their sirens easily out pitch my music. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/28/2008 8:28:19 PM |
Does that make you feel "powerful" that from the seat of your car you can control others' lives ... control what they listen to, control that they can not even understand each other in their own vehicle, control that if an emergency vehicle was approaching, that they would not hear it and would not be able to move aside for it? (Let's hope it's not a loved one of the "booming car" that is waiting anxiously for the emergency vehicle that can't get through the traffic because others can't hear the sirens.)
I have got to say, that I know a lot of people that are into this sort of thing (loud music, spending ridiculous amounts of money on a system for their car, etc.) and I have never, ever been anywhere near a vehicle with enough volume to drown out an emergency vehicle. The high pitch of emergency sirens (at least where i'm from) can certainly be heard over the very low thumping of subs. This point has been brought up several times by you, cotter, so I truly hope that it isn't an exaggeration.
As for the control comment, and various other comments from other posters, this seems to be more about the type of music and the lyrics, than the volume, if you ask me. The generalization of the "younger generation and their rap music" has been commented on more than once, here. You say it's not, but this is the second comment that you have made in regards to WHAT is being played, rather than just the volume it's played at. I think that it's certainly disrespectul to blare any kind of music incessantly at 2:00 in the morning, don't get me wrong.
Again though, as i've mentioned a few times now...we all have our pet peeves, and if I was going to freak out and point fingers for every thing that didn't fit into my comfort zone, in my world, i'd be pointing all day long.
Bottom line is that there are some things, that no matter how much we **** about, they will never change. I suggest if it bothers you that much, when you're in your home, that you buy some earplugs to help you sleep at night.
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/28/2008 8:30:36 PM | Bang your head......and wake the dead.
If that doesn't make sense, then you don't like music.
Crank it up. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/28/2008 8:39:41 PM |
lonekthx:
I don't think about the other people And that line, right there, pretty much sums it all up, don't it? They just don't take other people into consideration at all.
How about this -- maybe you *should* think about other people once in a while instead of just yourself! | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 1:48:24 AM | And that line, right there, pretty much sums it all up, don't it? They just don't take other people into consideration at all.
How about this -- maybe you *should* think about other people once in a while instead of just yourself!
heres some food 4 thought...
y should we care about others.... when others refer to us as a number? if u say respect.... ur just a follower .... not a leader n just a number . | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 3:25:02 AM | wow 9 pages...
there are several explaination. im sure most have been covered. heres my list of reasons. people can have one or more...
1. they like to show off. "Look at me! I'm so cool because i play my music loud to show my rebellious side! Can you feel the bass? Can you??? I bet your car doesn't have half of this!"
2. they enjoy the intensity level. "This music rocks. The louder, the better. It's like im AT the concert. If only i can close my eyes and imagine..."
3. they are pissed off. "M. f-er just cut me off/trying to show me up/or gf just dumped me, screw the world!"
4. they are deaf. "Man, this is at vol. 90?? i can barely hear it..oh well"
5. they are high. "Dude, i can see the sounds in the AIR!"
6. they enjoy annoying others/purposefully playing it loud to aggravate others. "Hey check out the looks of those old guys when i do this....[turns up bass]"
7. they get a high from feeling everything shake.
8. they think playing music loud will help them to score.
so yea thats probably why there is so much debate over this. just think of it like smoking. its bad for you. people know it is. but they have their reasons. and everyones' reasons are different. some find it really annoying when it travels into their "airspace" when they don't want it to. others actually get into it and try to find the station they are listening to.
im a nurse too but it doesn't take one to know that any prolonged exposure to loud noises is harmful. hell, even headphones can make someone deaf if they put it in high volume for extended times. last thing you want is a ringing in the ears. once your hearing goes, you're screwed. and bass has certain low frequencies that you can't even hear and it could damage your ears too. theres these little hairs that vibrate to certain frequencies. if those break, they rarely heal, and you lose sensitivity in that range. so protect your hearing everybody!  | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 4:32:51 AM | lonekthx:
I don't think about the other people
CSIAnaheim:
And that line, right there, pretty much sums it all up, don't it? They just don't take other people into consideration at all.
How about this -- maybe you *should* think about other people once in a while instead of just yourself!
Thank you CSI.... you hit the nail right on the head.
Little Wing:
heres some food 4 thought...
y should we care about others.... when others refer to us as a number?
Why care? Because it's the respectful thing to do..... and I don't mean to older generations.... I mean to everyone. Respect from others is earned and the way to get respect is by giving respect. Period. Quit worrying about how you are referred to as a number and prove to the other humans that you share this earth with that you deserve to be respected.
frankalank:
I take it you've never been to a danceclub before? It's usually twice as loud and annoying. lol
Hell yes, I've been to many dance clubs..... and I agree with you that it is usually way too loud. Annoying? Not for me because when I'm there I have chosen to be there and enjoy the loud music.
lucretia21:
As for the control comment, and various other comments from other posters, this seems to be more about the type of music and the lyrics, than the volume, if you ask me. The generalization of the "younger generation and their rap music" has been commented on more than once
While there may have been a few posters that mention they genre of music being played, for me I don't care what it is...... if it's loud enough to rattle my vehicle or shake my rib cage, it's too loud.
Perfect example: yesterday I was caught in traffic while a semi truck was manouvering into a tight spot..... this doofus pulls up beside me with Luciano Pavarotti blaring out of his car. I look over at him and he smiles and continues singing (badly too.... ) and cranks up the volume even more. I sigh and roll my window up.... although it does very little to drown it out. He nudges his car up a couple of times which inspires me to glance over...... he then proceeds to give me the finger before driving off!! WTF was that all about???
Is it because I put my window up? Hmmmmm...... maybe he read my rant on here about this..... Whatever the reason..... he certainly did not earn my respect and I did nothing to earn his vulgarity.
Maybe I should've farted in his window.
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 8:25:12 AM | | Why should I? I have the chance to NOT care once or twice a day and I'm going to take full advantage of that. Don't think since I play my music loud I'm just another inconsiderate ***hole. Like I said, my car is my safe haven. I will play the music as loud as I want as it's the only place I can do so freely. I don't blast my music at home and I don't blast it at work. So I will do it on the road. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 10:49:46 AM | I have got to say, that I know a lot of people that are into this sort of thing (loud music, spending ridiculous amounts of money on a system for their car, etc.) and I have never, ever been anywhere near a vehicle with enough volume to drown out an emergency vehicle. The high pitch of emergency sirens (at least where i'm from) can certainly be heard over the very low thumping of subs. This point has been brought up several times by you, cotter, so I truly hope that it isn't an exaggeration.
I agree. I have been in cars where people play loud music. I was still able to hear sirens, loud trucks and motorcycles, road and building construction etc.
As for the control comment, and various other comments from other posters, this seems to be more about the type of music and the lyrics, than the volume, if you ask me. The generalization of the "younger generation and their rap music" has been commented on more than once, here. You say it's not, but this is the second comment that you have made in regards to WHAT is being played, rather than just the volume it's played at. I think that it's certainly disrespectul to blare any kind of music incessantly at 2:00 in the morning, don't get me wrong.
I made a similiar comment earlier in this thread. I think many ( not all ) people who complain about loud music probably wouldn't complain if someone was blasting music that they liked. Personally loud music would only bother me if someone does it at 1am in a residental area. Regardless of what type of music it is. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 5:23:15 PM |
Why should I? Well, ya know, I really just can't argue with logic like that. If you want to be so apathetic about those around you, then so be it. Just don't expect people to respect you for it. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 5:33:40 PM | As a former firefighter and EMT, allow me to comment on the subject of emergency vehicles. I know a little bit about it.
The average driver, stereo or not, doesn't pay attention to us. Most people in the emergency services use lights and sirens only when dictated by law, because of the added danger they cause. Actually, on average I'd have to say the average driver in the U.S. is a retard.
The process to get a license here is a joke, I got my CDL-A faster than people in some european countries can get a regular license. They take it a bit more seriously there and consequently have much lower accident rates. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 5:36:09 PM | | Oh, and to address nocatchynames point about cell phone use, he's dead on correct. Cell phone use can impair you as much as a BAC that would have you hauled straight to jail. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 6:26:18 PM |
Perfect example: yesterday I was caught in traffic while a semi truck was manouvering into a tight spot..... this doofus pulls up beside me with Luciano Pavarotti blaring out of his car. I look over at him and he smiles and continues singing (badly too.... ) and cranks up the volume even more. I sigh and roll my window up.... although it does very little to drown it out. He nudges his car up a couple of times which inspires me to glance over...... he then proceeds to give me the finger before driving off!! WTF was that all about???
Is it because I put my window up? Hmmmmm...... maybe he read my rant on here about this..... Whatever the reason..... he certainly did not earn my respect and I did nothing to earn his vulgarity.
Maybe I should've farted in his window.
I guess it goes to show that rude drivers come from all different tastes in music. Thats sad to hear, my guess is he could not deal with the fact that you didn't like his singing, (not Pavarotti) but the guy behind the wheel. The the way you describe the singing, my guess is he probably sounded a bit like one of the early contestants trying out for American Idol <--- (I can't stand that show by the way) in the early rounds.
Anyway, he gave you the finger and I suppose all that can be said there is, no class at all on his part. Sorry to hear that, the world is full of odd ducks, what can you say. If you had known somehow that he was going to be that rude and flip you off, you should have smiled, then motioned for him to turn down his music so he could hear you and when he had his hopes up that you were going to get all flirty with him, you yell over then something like. 'Don't try out for American Idol, you will be out before you hit the stage!!!!!' Then blow him a kiss and roll up your window.
Ok, just having fun here but really it's not worth it. In fact DON'T take my advice with drivers like that. There are enough nuts on the road, better to just roll up your window and let it go.
In responce to MSG 203. Hey I LOVE my tunes cranking in my car also. I understand that your car is a moment in time where you might feel like it's great to play your music loud and it's a great feeling. Like others have tried to say, it's one thing if your driving down the road and trafic is flowing, fine crank it up, no big deal. Once your stopped, especially at a long light, be considerate of other drivers, it don't take much to turn it down a bit. Yes, it's your car and it's fine to play it loud, but a moment of considerateion for other drivers while at a light or in heavy traffic will greatly be appreciated. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 8:10:21 PM |
Well, ya know, I really just can't argue with logic like that. If you want to be so apathetic about those around you, then so be it. Just don't expect people to respect you for it.
Maybe you shouldn't judge a person by how loud they play their music? | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/29/2008 9:36:25 PM |
Maybe you shouldn't judge a person by how loud they play their music? You're absolutely right. I don't judge a person based on how loud they play their music. I judge based on how considerate they are of others. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/30/2008 1:54:41 AM | Maybe you shouldn't judge a person by how loud they play their music?
It doesn't take a lot to consider how your actions are influencing those around you. When you're in busy traffic or are stuck at a stop light turning the bass down and lowering the volume to something a little more reasonable will probably be appreciated. After all, "loud" music that can be contained by your vehicle's windows or blocked by the windows of the vehicles around you isn't quite as annoying as the ridiculously loud music that can be heard and felt through both.
Why should you? Because it's a nice gesture. If you like driving around doing something that you know will annoy a lot of people then you don't have a lot of room to complain when they express their displeasure. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/30/2008 3:27:27 AM |
Cell phone use can impair you as much as a BAC that would have you hauled straight to jail. I drive a standard shift car and want both hands free for my driving, so if my cell phone is in use while driving, it's on "speaker" and is laying on the seat next to me, not up to my ear.
That is the problem with the very loud BOOMING right next to you or behind you ... you can't hear the phone ... or your own radio ... or the person sitting next to you trying to have a conversations with you ... etc.
And I don't know where all of you live or what kind of noise the emergency vehicles put off, but I can tell you that in very heavy traffic, with the very loud BOOMING car stereo, they apparently can not hear it. If I'm stuck right next to such a loud car, I can not hear the emergency vehicle approaching.
I truly have witnessed them not pulling over for the emergency vehicles ... just sitting in their car, jiving to their trance and one time others were blowing their horn at them and trying to wave them aside. They responded by giving people the finger and just kept jiving. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/30/2008 3:49:29 AM | Laughinglibra, You misunderstood that Pavarotti fan. He wasn't being rude to you, he was just proudly displaying his IQ for you to see!  | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/30/2008 4:24:25 AM |
I judge based on how considerate they are of others.
So very true CSI...... so many people have little or no consideration for those around them and this can also be seen in many different ways as other posters have mentioned.
Laughinglibra, You misunderstood that Pavarotti fan. He wasn't being rude to you, he was just proudly displaying his IQ for you to see!
Is that what he was doing? Damn..... I'm going to have to get better at my people reading skills!!
Thanks for that petebelongs!!
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/30/2008 4:50:51 AM | Some people like loud music. Just like some people try to pass noise ordinance laws. One is happier than the other! Guess who! | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/30/2008 7:32:56 AM | Cotter. The danger caused by cell phone use has nothing to do with the physical restrictions from holding it. It's the lack of concentration because your head is in the conversation.
I've seen plenty of people not yield for me, I've seen plenty of people lock up their brakes in front of me, I've seen plenty of people cut me off because they thought my engine or ambulance would slow them down (not likely, I've broken 95 in a pumper before, on flat ground) Music has nothing to do with it. Mental retardation or distraction like cell phones and alcohol do. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/30/2008 9:03:53 PM | If you are incapable of understanding that casual listening to music is not even close to the concentration required to participate in a conversation then you are WAY beyond help. People that get so into music that they're "jiving" are probably not much better. I can't say that as fact though. I've not seen any studies on that. The FACTS of the matter are that being engaged in a conversation on the phone, or driving while tired, can equal, or exceed the danger created when driving while intoxicated. | |
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| Booming car stereo systems... Posted: 5/30/2008 11:19:04 PM | I have to agree with you. Nothing worse than some punk pulling next to me with shitty speakers cranked up to 11 playing rap or something worse (tejano).
However, I must say I just bought a truck thats top of the line. Sure, it's got some years on it but not that old. 6 disc changer, 6 speakers and sounds like crap. No balls. I can't wait to get some decent speakers and an amp so I can just crank the damn thing. Maybe it's a guy thing. I don't want to be heard a mi away. I just want to jam when I feel the need. Sometimes I just have to get the "Led" out. | |
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