| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/20/2008 2:24:18 PM | Wow....I remember what it cost me to fill my tahoe up BEFORE the gas prices went up and I had to trade it in for a more manageably priced malibu due to my divorce... I think I could pay ALL my bills every month on what your family spends on gas every month!
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/20/2008 4:55:14 PM | Ya know, honestly - It doesn't bother me. It costs from 1/8 a tank to full about 80 bucks. I'd gladly pay that to ride the way I do.
To ride like a king/queen/etc... you gotta pay like one too! :p | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/20/2008 4:59:31 PM | Yeah....I remember those days and I have to say...I completely agree with you. I LOVED my tahoe and the ride it gave me. It was worth every penny when I had it When I'm back on my feet again...I'll own a yukon this time, black with leather seats and it will be worth every penny it costs me to fill it because I remember what it felt like to be behind the wheel of my tahoe, just two short years ago....yep....a queen | |
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Yma67
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/20/2008 5:03:26 PM | | I pay $1.35 for just over 16oz of bottled water about twice a day. I have no right to complain about gas prices lol. | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/21/2008 1:23:09 AM | $1.35 for a bottle of tap water? heh n-m
Has anyone else noticed that new car advertisements on TV no longer give you both the highway and city MPG? They are just showing the highway MPG now, trying to make everyone think that its actually good mileage. Seen one today that claimed 30mpg on the highway. Is that suppose to be good? NOT. My 6 cylinder 12 year old Beretta gets better than that! When I drove to Atlanta I ended up with 38mpg on the highway but its normally not that good... lots of cruise control at work. 13 gallon tank will get me 350 miles, so thats what?... 27? So you mean to tell me that the auto industry can only improved that by 3 miles in 12 years? How much more BS can they shovel in our direction. As far as I can see, they all should be at least 50mpg highway minimum by now!
Cant wait to see how the hydrogen cars work out that they are starting to advertise. | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/21/2008 8:58:01 AM | Well, working at a R & D lab - what you say may be true on the surface - but there is more behind the wall.
How much heavier are cars now than back then? Saftey regulations where as stringent in thoes years. Also, haven't you noticed it's much more quieter in the cab now a days? Also - newer cars don't rust out as bad (atleast here in the Salt Belt) as their older breatherin have in the past. I don't know about you - but when I go out to buy a new car and it's rather noisy, and the 'creature comforts' aren't there - I'm not going to bother with that vehicle. You can say "Hell, I'll buy a car that's nothing but sheet metal, an engine, and 4 tires," but that won't hold true for the majority of the population. Rember - when building these cars there is only ONE TRUE bottom line - Profit.
There ARE reasions why - we just choose not to look. Cars are MUCH more efficent now - but they are called on to do SO MUCH more than in the past.  | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/21/2008 1:39:46 PM | I own one vehicle...a 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 4X4 long bed pickup. Its an Alaskan vehicle (plow package, tow package, high-clearance wide wheels) and loves winter. But I put more than $100 in the gas tank every 2 weeks. And to do that, I only drive 14 miles round trip to work and do not drive it on the weekends.
I would love to be able to afford a Prius, but cannot. So until the total cost of a new car is less than the cost of my gas, I will stick with my big Dodge.
Green is good. But I guess I wouldn't qualify for a green-only event.
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/21/2008 6:21:29 PM | Dude...you need to buy a biycle for the measly seven mile trip each way and send me the 100.00 bucks....I'll be singing "GO GREEN" all the way to the bank!  | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/21/2008 8:47:21 PM | Robitty, thats NOT the type of 'Green' dating were talking about here LoL
Hows that for the 'green'?
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/22/2008 9:06:03 AM | you need to buy a biycle for the measly seven mile trip each way I do own a bicycle and use it for short trips around the area. The problem is that to get from my domicile to my place of work, I have to cross a major 4-lane hiway very, very early in the morning (I start work before 7:00 AM) and return during evening rush hour. I would not want to do that on a bicycle. The way some folks drive is very dangerous and the roads aren't built with bike paths, so being in the roadway with all those cars is quite unattractive. Besides, as I approach 60, the prospect of riding a bicycle that far twice a day every day is less and less appealing. As for sending you the $100, well, no deal. But thanks for the offer. | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/22/2008 10:10:38 AM | Wow...I'm wounded...already planned how to spend my extra cash every two weeks! I would have even sewed you one of those cute little reflective vests so the cars whizzing by at 80 MPH would see you AK! I see how you are....chuckle chuckle and ummm...btw, age is just a number, you're as young as you feel! | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 6/22/2008 12:52:14 PM | | Any age over 55 is SO much more than "a number." It's a number of things that don't work as well as they used to, any number of times. It's the number of times I forget things--only to discover that I am holding them. It's the number of YOUNG people who say it...and the very small number of OLD people who do, because we KNOW better! | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 7/8/2008 8:25:40 AM | Interesting to see the opinions on MPG.. Have you ever calculated your vehicle CO2 output? There is a calculator on www. fueleconomy. gov (cut and paste and take out the spaces I added). Look on the left of the page for the side by side comparison to find your vehicle, then compare it to another if you'd like.
Sustainability is a complex issue but it's true that automotive OEMs have had technology to reduce MPG for years! The market and government just haven't forced them to launch it.
The Europeans are paying ~ $10/gallon for gasoline! What kind of car will you drive if our gas goes that high?! | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 7/8/2008 9:01:50 AM | On the topic - dating someone that is environmentally conscious would be attractive to me for what it says about the person. Though I would be turned off if it rose to the level of fanatical.
On 'green' - this is a huge global issue that is facing us now and down the road. It's a pity that it is not easier to recycle, bicycle, buy local produce, etc...but a lot of that rests on us not demanding it and using it when it is available. Too often cost is the final motive in a purchase and it's hard to avoid that in this economy.
One can always find reasons not to be more 'green'. Yes, solutions that are now being offered are not the best, but they are better then none at all and change is a process the current solutions will get better/safer/cheaper. | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 7/8/2008 10:14:29 AM | Nicely said.
There is a phrase I've been using regarding sustainability and recycling for years.. 'prime the pump'
Currently recycled items can be more expensive. Making sustainable choices does require some sacrifice now. They will change as more people make better choices and drive the cost down. I pay more for items with recycled content because I know it's a good idea (for the product) and I know I'm helping an industry get stronger. | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 8/6/2008 8:18:05 PM | Hi AWY, I am also looking for a "green" mate--I don't think there are many here (on POF). I added my green preference s to my profile to weed out those who are not willing to make any changes. Glad to see others like me though!  | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 8/15/2008 5:43:47 PM |
Sustainability is a complex issue but it's true that automotive OEMs have had technology to reduce MPG for years! The market and government just haven't forced them to launch it.
Don't forget to mention that the EPA's emissions testing also forces fuel economy down. Have fun passing bag 1 emissions with a euro-spec car. | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 8/17/2008 11:18:52 AM | Does shredding cereal boxes and other paper ,then using them as mulch qualify as fanatical? | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 8/17/2008 1:12:17 PM | no separate containers here either for cans, bottles, and wood- by products...but i do dispose of them properly, no litter bug here irks me to see all the trash along our waterways and roads...even if it is bio-degradeable as for the "green" mate !!! i'll take mine well seasoned, thank you  | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 8/17/2008 5:04:53 PM | | Don't worry bout the trash along side the highway...prisoners will clean it up,gives them something to do. | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 8/17/2008 5:13:23 PM | | While I'm at it ,10 a gallon for a small country thats not even closely comparable to ours which has a useful and purposeful transit system (unlike detroit) and has nothing but smaller cars isn't that big a deal for the euro's,also 1.39 for a 16 oz bottle of water isn't a 24 gallon weekly fill up. | |
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Yma67
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 8/17/2008 5:51:53 PM | | I have a really serious question. How do you handle your carbon footprints from net use? Everyone has a different opinion on this. | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 8/18/2008 10:11:45 AM | Everyone has a different opinion on this.
Doe this mean that there aren't any validated methods to calculate these aspects and impacts? It has been said, "if you can't measure it, it can't be improved."
I have been involved in environmental affairs in my career since the beginning, but I think there is something I could learn from this discussion. Does your question refer to reducing your carbon footprint by purchasing carbon credits? Perhaps, the"Inconvenient Truth" hype has given rise to an untenable concept. The EPA has used the permitting process to guide resource conservation and allocation up until now. Al Gore's approach seems to serve as another wealth re-distribution scheme to further hamper U.S. competitiveness. Hey Al, how about giving up a house, private plane, or SUV of your own? (and show some role-model behavior?)
"Beware, my lord, of jealousy It is the green-eyed monster, which doth mock The meat it feeds on."
Does "green" dating really exist? Or is it the same as trying to find someone else with a particular lifestyle choice to share?
I think if you practice green dating to the fullest extent when you meet someone, you'll probably miss the honeymoon period altogether.  | |
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| Green dating in Michigan Posted: 8/18/2008 7:30:55 PM | | Im very green. I quit dumping my oil change oil in the grass and letting my antifreeze run down the driveway. I expect any woman in my life to be responsible and do the same. | |
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