cargy
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| Sainsburys refuse contraceptives
Posted: 5/25/2008 5:52:06 AM | but rubber doesnt biodegrade?
yeah... I think you may be looking at it the wrong way.... I was thinking of johnnies made FROM refuse!
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| Sainsburys refuse contraceptives
Posted: 5/25/2008 11:39:20 AM | The law states that a company can refuse to sell you anything and they do not need to give a reason. Sainsburys could refuse to sell you a certain brand of tea bags and this would be completely legal.
The guy gave advice to an alternative so I don't see where the problem is. | |
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| Sainsburys refuse contraceptives
Posted: 5/25/2008 11:56:57 AM |
The guy gave advice to an alternative so I don't see where the problem is. (not getting at you..just illustrates a point)
the problem is that is 2008 and soooooooooooooo many need to step out of the dark ages.
This man has a job...he works within sainsbury....he had to hand over a packet of medication that is legal....end of.
if this clashes with his personal beliefs then get out of dodge..its that simple. NO ONE goes to sainsbury or the chemist to be a victim of someone elses beliefs.
if you dont like the policy of the place you work...then work elsewhere and omfg..this man is a pharmicist...im sure he has no issue with some of the drugs he hands over that were produced as the result of tests on animals and humans..or do his beliefs stop short when it will affect all of his career????
I dont agree with much of religion...therefore i wont be working in a church...ffs..its not rocket science!
lou
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| Sainsburys refuse contraceptives
Posted: 6/26/2008 4:59:46 PM | The bloke works for a company that sells that line of product, he knew that before he started working there, he should have sold it regardless.......... this country is to dam politically correct why not just say what you really feel.............. if you cant deal with it go do something different! Sainsburys should get a grip and sack him for losing them profit, what right does one person have to refuse to do his or her job its outragus! If I refused to do my job god knows what the consequences would be!
Its daft this get in line attitude we have devloped, you work for a company that sells that product then you god dam well sell it cos thats your job. | |
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| Sainsburys refuse contraceptives
Posted: 6/27/2008 2:47:17 AM | You really should have two or maybe even more hats and know when to wear them.
With your job hat on you should do the job.
With your religious/beliefs hat on you can follow your beliefs.
You shouldn't wear both hats at once and become a missionary for your religion when doing your job. | |
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| Sainsburys refuse contraceptives
Posted: 6/27/2008 4:38:07 AM | Rubber does lose it's effectiveness when baby oils comes into the equation - I wish someone told me about that in sex education at school!lol.
After all if you refuse to sell the morning after pill because of your beliefs then you should sell any other from of contreception.
I know many girls that have had the morning after pill more than the old recomended 3 times.
What if the woman wasn't able to carry or might die if she did become pregnant?
I feel if you are living and working in this country you should rescept the beliefs of a person, it is their body and their right to do as they wish. You may say your side but that's it. - But then does he feel like he had a part in some kind of murder in his eyes?
What was stopping him getting another member of staff to sell the contraceptive?
If I was refused it I would sue and make him cover the cost of the reprocusions
What about if I did that in my job? Oh hang on I can't send this VAT return to the HM Revenue and Customs as I don't belive it is right according to my own made up religion or if I found a loop hole in any religion to back up my beliefs!
What a joke. I am at work religion doesn't come into it.
Same for soldiers, bless em, if they have to and can do it, I think others should show respect for them and do their piss easy (in comparisson) jobs | |
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| Sainsburys refuse contraceptives
Posted: 6/27/2008 7:49:57 AM | | It's called 'Invitation to Treat' in law. Which means that a retailer can refuse to sell any product to anyone. | |
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| Sainsburys refuse contraceptives
Posted: 6/27/2008 8:30:24 AM | Difficult ... On the one hand I am glad that Sainsbury have supported their staff member, All to often companies are prepared to offer up staff as sacrificial goats rather than stand by their policies ...
On the other hand it must have been a little disconcerting to the customer when told he would not dispense a properly prescribed drug because they contradicted his beliefs.. I've been thinking about it, the amount of Asian ( so therefor one would assume a percentage are Muslim) staff who regularly handle pork and non halal meat products is pretty high ... Could they refuse? Will we see basket only, cash only and meat free aisles??? | |
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l3sl3y
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Joined: 5/12/2008
Msg: 35 | |
| Sainsburys refuse contraceptives
Posted: 6/27/2008 11:27:12 AM | this type of thing makes me sick.
how dare any individual decide who can have what drugs ?
The quicker they stop pandering to this type of nonsense in this country the better!
Yes a COMPANY can decide not to sell certain products..........but to allow each member of staff to decide what they will and will not sell is ludicrous!
does that mean we should go to one till to pay for condoms if the cashier is catholic, another to pay for pork products if they are Jewish, etc. etc.?
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:32:51 AM | well lets hope some jehovas witness does not become a surgeon is all i have got to say
where does thast lay then if say an asian will not handle meat that is not halal or is pork
certainly if he owned the chemist outright and was not trading in a supermarket it would be his right to choose , but in a supermarket i donrt feel he should have a choice | |
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Posted: 8/14/2008 2:17:32 PM | OK things like thise really annoy me...
The couple in question obviously were being responsible by buying the morning after pill and NO ONE should have the right to not sell this product on the basis of their personal beliefs. I think it was dispicable and if he was unhappy selling contraceptives of any description he should not have been offered a job in a phamacy where this was likely to occur.
I think has come to a sad state of affairs when this stuff comes to light. For example would you become a termination specialist nurse if abortion is specifically against your personal belief system? no i doubt you would. This man should have been made to sell them and this wasnt possible knowing that people would want to buy the pill from that branch another member of staff should have been able to sell them on his behalf...
One last point...what about the beliefs of the couple...sure the pharmacist didnt believe in the morning after pill...and the law supports his right not to sell them on the basis of belief...what about the rights of the couple to have access to the drug??? why is the law not supporting them... | |
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Posted: 8/14/2008 2:21:24 PM | Aa far as I am concerned he took the job knowing full well they sold them...wether he is legally right is one thing, but no one should force their believes on others, if we want to take it too extremes that contrvines our basic human rights.
It would be like working in a bar and believing that people shouldn't drink!
This man should be sacked as far as I am concerned for not doing his job correctly.
We have to remember that yes a COMPANY can refuse to sell you something, but if that COMPANY has the said article in stock on it's shelfs and a mere WORKER refuses to sell you that product he is breaking COMPANY guidelines...as the company have already decided that they will sell the item...
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Posted: 8/14/2008 2:30:07 PM | I could probably double my salary if I chose to work in the defence industry but as I strongly disapprove of the arms trade I choose to avoid it.
By the same token If someone has a problem with some types of medicines why the hell are they working on a pharmacy counter ?
It makes about as much sense as a nun applying for a job in a brothel ! | |
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Posted: 8/14/2008 6:57:01 PM | Well it may be legal, but it's not right. If his conscience denies him the ability to dispense the drug, but it doesn't stop him telling them where else to get it, isn't that hypocrisy anyway?
I don't want to shoot anyone, but I will happily pass the gun to a killer? I'm oppsed to drugs so would never inject anyone, but I'm happy to sell it to make a profit?
It's bull of the highest order.
So lets say Sainsbury's employ a Jew on the deli counter, they can't not because to do so would be discrimination. But then the Jew decides he can't sell non Kosher meat to people?
It reminds me of the daft people who signed up to be a soldier, then when sent to war said no it's against my belief to kill!! Daft tw@ts.
So ... what we have is people with their own beliefs, taking jobs which have elements which contradict with their beliefs. Therefore they should not be taking the job in the first place.
It's controlling Britain by the back door and Sainsburys are as guilty as anyone. We're all supposed to be non-judgemental about everyone but they can act as judge and sentencer at their whim?
Fooking bollox I say. Sack the daft git and tell him to get a job where he doesn't have to sell those drugs. | |
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