| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:04:30 AM | I loved Sex and the City. There were several elements of the show that really do happen in women's lives. As for how the show portrayed men, I can tell you I have had my very own "Mr. Big" and my very own "Berger." However, what I think the show did for a lot of women was emphasis the importance of friendship and the relationship you have with yourself.
With that said, as much as I enjoyed the show and I am sure I will enjoy the movie, it is still just entertainment and if a man is intimated by Sex and the City, perhaps he should look at the relationship he has with himself. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/25/2008 9:10:46 AM | I don't think so.
As to your part about a man being rich, handsome etc. Look, Miranda (a lawyer) married Steve. He was a dorky bartender. He didn't have looks or money.
Charlotte married (I forgot his name..lol). He was overweight and bald.
I think it portrayed 4 women who were friends but all had different ideas on relationships, men and dating.
But I can probably bet that every woman has experienced a few of their situations and relates to it. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:45:54 PM |
Charlotte married (I forgot his name..lol). He was overweight and bald.
Harry. She married Harry..My favorite of them all.  | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:57:25 PM |
A buddy of mine believes that the show "Sex and the City" offered women some pretty unrealistic ideas about dating and men in general
wow, I missed the boat on that one...........and I still like men in general, just because they're men....... | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/25/2008 10:53:34 PM |
Fess up men! Whats the problemo? Cant face the music? Sorry but LOTS of men
are JUST as Sex and the City portray them...
Y'know, using that logic I could easily flip it around and ask you if you "can't face the music" when, say, "I Love Lucy" portrays women as meddling, scatterbrained retards. The main difference, though, as I can tell, is that unlike S&tC, men don't really want to be like Ricky Ricardo - whereas a lot of women seem to feel they need to emulate the women on this show.
men treat women like "disposables" and dump them, or cheat on them as they see fit.
This isn't a gender-specific issue.
When women FINALLY get empowered a man cant stand it! This is a great show to empower women --- to strengthen the sisterhood out there!
Whaddaya mean, "finally"? Women have been "empowered" for years. Y'all were working the factories while men were on the front during World War II. Remember Rosie the Riveter? "We Can Do It?"
Anyway, if you think this is the first show to "empower" women, I'd like to remind you of a woman named Mary Richards. The Mary Tyler Moore Show was portraying independent, liberated, progressive women in a positive light as far back as 1969 - and managed to do a much better job of portraying the difficulties of "modern" dating in a far more balanced light than today's programming ever has.
Of course, I think television in general has just gotten nastier. I watch classic sitcoms from way-back-when and nobody insults one another with the kind of malice you see on TV today. It's a whole 'nother world, really - and it's a shame that we've moved past it. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/25/2008 11:12:53 PM | | So did Baywatch give men their unrealistic fantasy's about women? Or was it another show that taught them to look for sexually talented virgins? As well as tiny women with big boobs. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/25/2008 11:18:22 PM | I feel sorry for anyone--men or women--who are altering their behavior based on a TV show. Someone here said if he found out that a woman he was interested in was a fan of the show it'd be an instant dealbreaker. That's just idiotic. It's a TV show, get over it.
The reason some women relate to it is not because they changed after watching it. It's because they've had some of those experiences before the show came out. Yes we know that parts of the script have been dramatized. Again, it's a TV show. It shows a lot of goofy/flawed men because it's told through the point of view of single women. On the other hand, it's pretty easy to pick out the flaws of the female characters as well. Guys who are mad at SATC are a little scary. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 2:00:27 AM | No - If anything, this show restored my faith in men. I learned they treat all women like crap and not just me 
Okay, okay, kidding. You know what I liked about the show? I saw other women have problems too. It reminded me that I'm not in the battle alone. It was good to see Carrie lose a perfectly good man (Aiden) because she was still damaged by Big. It was great to see Samantha, who I thought had a pretty flat chest, walk around in skimpy shirts without a bra and be proud of it AND be the sex symbol of the show. It was great to see that as annoying as Miranda was most of the time (imo), she could still land a guy.
Ironically, you know what I thought was the worst about the show? You don't just magically run into the people you're dating to talk out problems, but instead in today's internet era you just get cut off and have no contact. I'd love to see SATC in 2008, with internet communication and cell phones playing a larger role. I feel like that's totally changed dating more than anything else.
And Steve was the hottest, I'd love a guy like that haha. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 3:14:16 AM | | I only used to watch S&TC for the clothes. She used to get changed for practically every scene which kept me interested. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 8:09:37 AM | I wouldn't say that Sex & the City ruined dating. I would, however, class that show into an entire genre of shows that set completely unrealistic standards for impressionable young women here in the real world.
For instance, S&tC taught me that the good guy is always going to lose. Aidan, anyone? He was a great guy and got treated like garbage. Why? Because Carrie carried this unrealistic view (unrealistic in real life) that if she latched on to the bad boy Big for 6 or 7 years, he would eventually and suddenly convert into a Knight in Shining Armor. This just in! You can't convert the bad boy!
Not to mention, most of the guys on that show were portrayed as complete morons.
But S&tC isn't the only culprit. I'm looking at you, Drew Barrymore!
Take the time and watch one of her movies. The plot follows the same exact line every time: Drew is alone and nerdy. Drew meets guy in ironic, twist-of-fate kind of way. Drew and guy break up because of some silly argument. Drew and/or guy realize the err of their ways and everyone lives happily ever after.
Now that I think about it, that's the plot of EVERY romantic film. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 11:27:02 AM |
For instance, S&tC taught me that the good guy is always going to lose. Aidan, anyone?
What about Smith? What about Steve? The good guys don't always[/] lose on the show. Did you actually watch the show? Carrie isn't exactly a "night in shining armor" type of girl. If she was, she would've stayed with Aidan. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 11:33:11 AM | | I like that show, but it didn't give me a complex about men and relationships..I just got that from real life..lol. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 11:45:15 AM | I always have to ask people that bash shows like Sex and the City if they have ever actually WATCHED it.
I have watched several seasons, and found it thoroughly delightful. While it is written from a women's perspective, the author at least takes enough care to create a diverse range of core female characters that pretty much span the range of female attitudes when it comes to dating. <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0>
Also while the men may sometimes be painted as hapless goofs, there have also been admirable male characters to grace the show (both cameo and repeat performance), and best of all: the author isn't afraid to paint the women as the bad guy/retard at times when it comes to relationships... <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/newsmiles/007.gif border=0> 
I'm actually looking forward to the movie, and any progressive man out there shouldn't feel threatened by a simple television show, even if it did explode to a massive devoted female audience.
Take the four main characters:
1) Carrie - the main character: she's cheated, she's dropped her pants on the first date, she's been a flake, she can over-analyze, she has made mistakes left right and center but occasionally bad stuff just happens to her as well, and she's able to take a harsh look at herself despite the occasional bout of weakness, so she's fairly well-balanced.
2) Samantha - the Man Eater: this is the empowered go-getter businesswoman, ruthless in the boardroom and just as ruthless in bed. She gets HERS first and foremost, and doesn't want any of the crap society usually imposes on women e.g. kids, marriage, prudish demeanor, etc. They often joke at her being a man born in a woman's body.
3) Miranda - the intellectual & independent lawyer: she's sometimes portrayed as cold, but mostly she's just highly self-reliant, to the point she occasionally gives up on men entirely. Very responsible and organized, almost to a fault. However even SHE can be wooed by the right guy in a tight pair of jeans and next thing you know she's giggling like a school girl.
4) Charlotte - the antiquated prude: clearly this one is the graduate of the wealthy suburbanite housewife training program, full blown princess complex. She's sexually-inhibited, obsessed with marriage/commitment/baby-making, and social appearances. Despite her usually restrictive tendencies, even she can be coerced into getting down and dirty (she even admitted to rimming her ex-husband in one episode), but she has to be very moved to do so.
That sounds like a pretty well fleshed out spectrum of stereotypical personality attributes for women if you ask me, so how can your friend blame the author for painting unrealistic expectations? There's even a golden episode where Carrie the columnist starts her column with "Can it be we (women) actually have it wrong? Is it possible it's not them (men), but US that's the problem?"  | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 12:04:26 PM | Not to worry. Most people with any level of intelligence haven't watch the show.
Thank you. I have never watched it- have no idea who they are and I think
Sara -Jessica looks like a tranny and I wont buy her perfume either as I do not
want to "smell" like her or do I use Garnier products.
She is laughing at you all, all the way to the bank. She is a glorified whore
with no acting talent who thinks she knows todays modern woman- todays
modern woman has no time to get laid let alone shop for four hundred dollar shoes.
Thats what the net is for. She is jugling her household, her kids activities and
trying her best to get some sleep. On the rare occasion she has a date
she goes to Macys and buys an outfit on sale.
Oh yeah and she has a real job with real responsibility and accountability.
These shows are bullshit and guys get scared over them. Let me write
a show and put what really goes on for the single woman- its not that.
Its more like dates from hell, cheap wine and shopping at Wal-Mart. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 1:24:54 PM | [qoute]Not to worry. Most people with any level of intelligence haven't watch the show.[/qoute]
Quite true most people at the lower levels of intelligence (which IS one of any level of intelligence! ) haven't watched it, just as those at any other level probably have not either. If you're going to make an elitist remark, at least get your phrasing correct or it may reflect badly on you!
Just the same, it was entertaining and made us wonder if many people who are dating are really as dysfunctional as the main characters. Now that is a scary thought! | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 2:50:16 PM |
For instance, S&tC taught me that the good guy is always going to lose. Aidan, anyone? He was a great guy and got treated like garbage. Why? Because Carrie carried this unrealistic view (unrealistic in real life) that if she latched on to the bad boy Big for 6 or 7 years, he would eventually and suddenly convert into a Knight in Shining Armor.
But for all of Carrie's unrealistic view, both Miranda and Charlotte made tough choices and ended up with good realistic guys. Charlotte had obsessively distorted views of relationships and a "perfect wedding" which basically got her married to a guy with a mommy complex and a sexless marriage; it took all that for the light to turn on for her. Even Samantha seemed to be connecting with a good guy for the right reasons at the end.
I think the real perspective on this is that Aidan was too good for Carrie. And I think that's what some people fail to get. Remember the scene where Carrie and Miranda reluctantly walk up to their now exes Aidan and Steve at an outdoor cafe/bar ... only to find out that the men were on dates with someone new ... those guys were good catches. I'd like to believe women and men watching the show were able to see both the poor and good dating choices that were made throughout the series. Of all the women on the show, I always found Carrie to be the least appealing because she always made the worst choices. Part of that was intentional, she was technically the main character, and if she was perfect, it'd leave little room for her friends to be interesting characters. There was also the intentional irony of her writing articles on relationships for a living while she was clearly learning her lessons on the fly.
Someone mentioned that "every single man [...] on the show was screwed up in one way or another". But the female main characters all had their obvious flaws.
Fact of the matter is that if the new movie is all about Carrie marrying Big and they all live happily ever after (which is the impression I get from the trailers), well, it'll be a disappointing "fairy tale" ending to what was otherwise a pretty good show. Even more disappointing would be if that is what most women have been waiting for in a Sex and the City movie, as that really wasn't the point to the show. That said, Carrie and Big deserve each other. Maybe in Sex and the City II, after having a couple of kids he'll dump her for some younger catch, while they show the others in satisfying, successful marriages. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 3:05:41 PM | I have to laugh at all the men getting a little uppity about SATC! It was a fictional television show. It amused single women because we could identify with the characters and some of the situations they found themselves in. (Samantha and I should get together for coffee..lol ) If you wanna talk about one lil show..I can bring up a few that men watch! How about "The Man Show" with Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel?? Spike TV? Baywatch? Girls Gone Wild?? and various other things I have caught on late night cable. So..they show scantily clad women for men's enjoyment or pick on our quirks. Neither is anything to take seriously as "ruining dating"..lol...I still like men and wanna date one!  | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 4:56:33 PM |
men treat women like "disposables" and dump them, or cheat on them as they see fit.
But if the man really loved the woman he wouldnt cheat ! | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/26/2008 11:43:12 PM |
Someone mentioned that "every single man [...] on the show was screwed up in one way or another". But the female main characters all had their obvious flaws.
That would be me, and it wouldn't have really bothered me if the men were anything more than cardboard cutouts, or had any redeeming qualities at all. Yes, the main characters had their flaws but they were also fairly well-rounded characters. The men on that show were simply there as window dressing to reinforce the notion that men are scum.
This is, of course, coming from someone who only caught the occasional chunk of it - usually after my ex would say something like "how do you pronounce nicker... necoro... fibbia?", and I'd be like, "it's necrophilia, and what the hell are you watching where you'd learn a word like that?"
If the show actually was any deeper, I wouldn't know. I'm glad to hear that it apparently was.
Oh, and The Man Show is an obvious satire, and again - none of us guys are looking to it as a template for the ideal life in America today. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/27/2008 5:21:37 AM |
Oh, and The Man Show is an obvious satire, and again - none of us guys are looking to it as a template for the ideal life in America today.
And woman are doing this with SATC? Do you know any woman that has said that she has modelled her life after this television show? These types of comments really give some insight into how some people really do have very low opinions of the opposite sex....... | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/27/2008 5:25:38 AM | | No, its a TV show based on fictional characters and anyone who attempts to copy 5 fictional women's behavior is not someone you'd want anyway. I love the show and will see the movie but In no way, would I want to act like TV characters or change my behavior because of them. | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:04:05 AM | | There are different characters on Sex In The City. This movie gives a sketch of different personality types, and different needs that women have. You basically have the slut, the church-goer one guy forever, the attorney career woman, and the girl with BIG... the newpaper columnist who gives a guy her heart and soul... only to be trampled on. What is it about unveiling the mystery a little, opening up different personalities... so intimidating to your friend? | |
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| Did Sex and the City ruin dating?
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:21:34 AM | | I never watched the show, but anyone who would let a movie alter their opinions on relationships needs a reality check. Its just hollywood and stereotyping. Not every woman is a money grubbing shallow beotch, and not all men are dogs. Tell your compadres they need to get a grip on reality and stop worrying about hollywoods opinion. | |
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