| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/25/2008 12:18:24 PM | | ^^^ It happened Friday, and it's only Sunday now. Other than getting the police involved... what else do you think would have happened in the last 48 hours???? | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/25/2008 12:27:05 PM | Schools have been closed since Friday at 4 (probably before she found out about the whole thing)...
Police and media IMO would be overblowing the whole thing at this point... at least until she finds out more.
Perhaps she is in contact with other parents.
Perhaps the other parents are away for the weekend.
Perhaps all this is in the works, and because we don't all live in the immediate area so we haven't heard about it.
Or maybe, she has more of a life than the two of us, and doesn't spend her whole weekend trolling in the POF forums being critical of others. | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/25/2008 1:14:17 PM |
Actually I don't sign any "blanket consent" forms. I actually make a written notice at the beginning of the year stating my need for permission for everything, including any needles, nurses, dentist day or what have you.
Sounds to me like you have grounds for a lawsuit. | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/25/2008 1:16:03 PM | They don't!! I am a teacher and it's just not allowed. No student is allowed to go anywhere or do anything without written parental permission-EVER. I would first go to the principal and if you are not satisfied, go to your School Board. This is a very serious matter. You are very lucky nothing did happen and you also need to make sure something like this never happens again. Further, in my county, no student is ever supposed to go in a vehicle that is not School Board approved!!!!
I have to tell you that I am shocked that a school would allow this to happen and I can't stress how serious this is..Be strong, take all the avenues you need and make sure the higher-ups know all about this situation!
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Posted: 5/25/2008 2:44:27 PM | See it wasn't that huge of a deal, it was just an OP venting.
If she really cared and actually followed up on the advise given surely the group would have heard from her.
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Oh never mind it was only a stuffed animal.
Police, Media, and schools all could have been contacted by now
in addition to the other parents.
I find your comments offensive and childish. If anything I would think as 'Single Parents' that we would be a bit more helpful.
As my parents taught me: "if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all'..... so if you can not contribute in a helpful manner then don't comment.
Yes, this occurrence happened on a Friday, at least the OP did not go nutso and start making accusations to the authorities. She is intends on dealing with this matter asap and it serves no one by her approaching the School District or the Police, etc and come across as some Psycho Mom.
We are here to have dialogue and to help each other find solutions to issues, to bounce off ideas and to reach out and get a second person opinion on things.
Sounds like me that for the most part that she has gotten some good feedback from other parents here on this thread. | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/25/2008 3:01:36 PM | Sorry any parent who thinks something so outrageous has happened to their child would have been seeking answers on FRIDAY.......... not wait until monday or tuesday.
Most often there are still staff kicking around the school for hours after classes end.
Some doing work, some coaching teams etc.
A quick phone call to the police was in order on friday.
If something untoward happened, surely those 4 kids have washed away any evidence.
The police would have contacted the principal and school board officials and have taken the time to sort out the mess............ that is their job.
Irresponsible on behalf of the mom for not pushing this into full gear on friday night.
P.s......... I had a school teacher who would take students on special field trips.......... As I recall he was found guilty! Guess what the victims were not the ones who brought it to light, rather the smarter kids who figured something was fishy with the teacher taking 3-4 boys at a time on outings! | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/25/2008 4:23:45 PM |
See it wasn't that huge of a deal, it was just an OP venting.
If she really cared and actually followed up on the advise given surely the group would have heard from her.
wolf
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Oh never mind it was only a stuffed animal.
ActuallyI did post again :) I said thanks for all the advise and I will let everyone know what happens on Monday when the school is "open". READ BEFORE YOU SPEAK! | |
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Posted: 5/25/2008 4:30:18 PM | Also I did call the school, the principal wasn't there...do you suppose I should of left a message...lmfao
I'm not going to call the police yet, i haven't even spoken to anyone in charge yet.
I think the principal and the superintendent should be whom I contact in person and in written form. If my son had said something else had happened, I would of called the police right away! Like I said I'm pised off but want to get my point across without a huge freak out.
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Posted: 5/25/2008 5:29:17 PM | | im a higher level teaching assistant in a primary school , but i know that when your child starts a primary school or secondary school you are given a form to sign to say that you give permission for your child to go out of school for local educational trips, ie , trip to shops, walking around local area to draw pictures etc.this is so the school doesnt have to keep sending out letters for something small like this. Its well out of order though the school allowing your son to get in someones car, they are not insured for accidents in someones car, thats bad practice on the schools behalf. I hope you had a right go at the school , | |
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Posted: 5/25/2008 7:29:15 PM | Im so grateful that the school my son goes too does not allow anything of the sort to happen.
Every excursion / field trip to every camp.... a consent slip is sent out to each child in that year level... the school also has a policy of no pay no go.. so if a parents doesnt pay then the child doesnt go... in the consent slips they also ask if parents can be parent helpers and parents give a yes or no reply.
The school also sends out at the start of the term a school term calendar so every parent knows whats going on in every year level in that school and who is coming into the school as special guest speakers.... they also let us know on the calendar when lock down drills and fire drills are going to be preformed.
Im actually filling out a consent slip as i type this up for an under 8's day... in that i have to fill out a medical records form of my son... and also give or not consent to his picture being taken on the day... same goes for the big night out to which the parents take their kids to it.... but still have to give consent to pictures being taken of your child.
Speaking of pictures being taken when we enrol our kids we then fill out a form giving consent to if we allow pictures of our kids to be put on the internet, newspapers, tv media or school news letters.... its actually against the law here to film children under the age of 16 without a parents consent if the children are in school uniform and on or near the school grounds.
Purple i really dont blame ya for being pissed... i would be too if the school changed to that policy and i personally would take my son out of that school for that reason.. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 11:09:05 AM | You gotta be fvcking kidding me!
If my 11yo or my 7's were taken off grounds without my explicit and limited consent I'd have gone ape sh!t.
Keep us posted, OP, no trips with Father Vivian Oblivion for my kids...Geezus! | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 11:30:25 AM | Plus what field trips do you know of where young students of a number of 4 get in a car
with a priest? It just seems way to creepy!
I would say very creepy. I would not even think the schools insurance would allow this type of activity. I know for myself I would be very pissed as well. As a parent it is your right to know where your children are.
What if you had a family emer. and needed to pick up your child.
I am in the US and I have not heard of that happening here. I may just be lucky but the schools where I am at, require a slip to be signed for any activity out of school and personally I feel that is the way it should be.
best of luck to you. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 1:02:32 PM | ok, I'm totally with you on this GPH
I admitt to being a bit of an over protective dad at times but your situation doesn't sit well with me. My Son is the same age and I think I'd have the same reaction.
I've also found a certain satisfaction over the years going to bat for him against school admisitration. Maybe it's just my own childish pleasure at being able to yell at principals instead of all those years I spent on the receiving end :) | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 4:56:26 PM | We are standing by....waiting for news.
I do hope she got the answers she needs.
I hope we can all be supportive and not too judgemental.... we as single parents are doing the best we can to protect our kids.
be well everyone. | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/26/2008 5:30:19 PM | Schools are closed today... Holiday.
Be very careful with private schools. Paying money for your child's education does not mean they are receiving a quality education. Public schools may get a bad rap for public issues, but the rules are clear. Children may NOT be taken off grounds without a signed permission slip. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 11:48:45 PM | I have read the entire thread.
Something doesn't make any sense.
I have had two kids and let me tell you I would've in the space of an hour (since my son told me this story) phoned the parents of the other kids to verify his story. See what those other kids have to say. I would've talked to the principal of the school to find out what the heck happened. If he was in the dark, instruct him find out what happened PDQ. Phoned the teacher. If I couldn't find her/him. Then phoned others in that school until I found her/him. Tell her what my son had said and ask her to verify that it happened. In the space of an hour I would've:
1. Verified my son's story. If it was true.
2. Found out if the school knew about it and sanctioned it.
3. Found out that the school didn't know anything about it and didn't sanction it.
If # 3 was true, and the other kids verified his story, I would've been onto the Police like white to rice! In the kids minds the descriptions would still be fresh about the entire event.
What I don't get is that OP didn't do this. Instead she spent her time writing the story on POF! Huh??
She says she is waiting until school is back in session to look into it. Conveniently, it's a 3 day weekend. | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/27/2008 12:39:56 AM | | ok so when did school stay open until after dinner? The op clearly stated that AFTER DINNER her son told her about his afternoon off. I'm going to assume this would make it between 6 and 7? So how in the world could she get ahold of anyone???? Seriously read it well before u post.... Looking forward to hearing what the school has to say!!! | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/27/2008 5:24:12 AM | There is this great publication that every town in canada gets each year........
Many communities have them posted in public places.
Its called a phone book.
I know when we were all kids our teachers were addressed as Mr. so and So
As was the principal.
Amazingly enough each of those "adults" who taught in our schools were listed in that great publication. Surely one could have found 1 or 2 of said adults in said book on friday and got the ball rolling.
Even folks on the school boards are listed in phone books. Many elected to the school board also have their own websites now to toot their own horn about what a great job they are doing.
Sorry but any parent worth their salt would have resolved this on friday when it happened | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:58:11 AM | Midnight Star gazer:
Look at the date and time she posted.
She spent that time period sitting on the computer in POF. A dating site. Then she wrote what she did.
I agree with thatismommy2.
There is no way that I would sit on this like a duck on an egg for all of these days. I did think the 3 day weekend was last weekend. But, I gave her some slack and thought it might be inservice day ...or something. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 9:12:51 AM | The OP posted at 4:00 pacific time, which was probably around 7:00 pm EST. Is that what Quebec is on? The OP is from Quebec.
Nothing wrong with thinking before you act. In fact, it's often preferable. | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/27/2008 9:24:00 AM | Not in this case.
Not ever in this case.
In my history with raising my kids, in a situation like this, the principal was more than willing to co-operate at dinner time or after. This affects him and his school!
It's not a trivial matter for him. Ask any principal or teacher. | |
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| So when did schools get the right?!?
Posted: 5/27/2008 10:18:40 AM | W O W!!!
Control freaks on here or what????
Some things are beyond a persons control until the next business day.
Did you all miss that her children were unharmed. She was just a bit concerned that her children were too quick to ask permission and the teacher was too quick to say yes.
She is valid in having questions, and I'm sure she is responsible enough to contact the school, or go to the school and speak to the principal and the children's teacher.
I do beleive that she was on a "dating site" to ask for some advice and seek solace in what she experienced, as she is a forum regular. To know that her freaking out internally over this is normal and that things will be o.k. Maybe even to find out if anyone else has experienced a similar situation and maybe they would let her know of the outcome.
Ah.. what do I know? I'm not a control freak.
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