| Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/24/2008 11:18:24 PM | Such information unfairly penalizes those people, particularly men who are less affluent
Get yourself a $200 beater, park it out back so technically you're not lying.  My first car was $150 but it never moved ... although I could say to a potential date I owned a car but was (in actuality) dirt poor. Now I just fly under my own superpowers.
The next option I vote for is "Do you own a Yacht" Yes - No
And Admin shouldn't forget the pull-down list of Yacht ammenities. 
I vote for "Do you own a Private Jet"? Yes - No. I mean ... nobody is anybody nowadays without a fully customized Airbus A380 as their personal flying palace with a fully stocked bar, butler service and swimming pool ... like Prince "whut'z his name??"  | |
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| Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:07:05 AM | I think it's silly to have this listed. It has nothing to do with money but the fact that people make assumptions based on such a limited piece of information. Not everybody who doesn't have a car has any sort of cash flow issue.
So far the assumptions have generally tended to include things like :
-I want a chauffeur
-I'm a mooch
-I'm too poor
-I have no license
-I lost my license
Not only do I not fall under any of these categories, my license includes a rating allowing me to drive most large trucks. Nothing special of course but really....I say I have no car and the assumptions automatically preclude me from any short list of potential dates. I don't usually say this but in this case it's absolutely true : it is unfair. | |
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| Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/25/2008 12:56:22 PM | Maybe more pertinent would be:
Do you have a Criminal Record?
Too easy bluffing the Car Thing. You can say yes even if you don't have one, and when going on a date ... hey its in the Shop, some Idiot hit me last Tuesday. And if the Date goes well, then tell her you just sold the car for ecological & financial Considerations.
The more Stuff like this gets added, the less I enter into my Profile. | |
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| Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/25/2008 1:40:19 PM | I think the car thing matters in areas where public transportation sucks... where I live the bus system and train system is marginal... can't rely on it to get you anywhere.... so having your own car is important if you want to go someplace...
so in that... yes... I want a potential date to have a car... because that is the only way we are going to met up somewhere.... with out me driving all the time.... which with the price of gas isn't happening.... | |
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| Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/25/2008 4:07:48 PM |
If a woman is basing her opinion of whether to get in touch with me/date me based on whether i own a car or not (I dont), then I want absolutely no contact with such a superficial person to begin with. If they dont want to contact me because I dont drive, its her loss. Amen!
I had a date a few months back where I didn't drive to it (I walked). On my profile I say that I live near work so I don't have to commute in a car. In fact, I chose my house because it is walking distance to my job. My date was surprised that I didn't drive everywhere, as she was without a car and couldn't imagine how someone could do that. Needless to say we did not pursue a second date...
Had she been able to know I didn't drive much, perhaps she would never have pursued me and we wouldn't have wasted our time on a first date. Just a thought. | |
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| Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/25/2008 4:22:41 PM | well where i work there is noo bus route,so i doo need a vehicle,truck car ,van ,bike,whatever... and when i connect with a gentlemen and if they don't have a car and they ask if i do and i say yes..i can't believe they ask me to pick them up because i have a car and they don't ..whats up with that..wow!!so what do you do?? ask them to pay for gas or tell them to take the bus???   | |
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| Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/25/2008 6:52:47 PM |
Maybe more pertinent would be:
Do you have a Criminal Record?
Absolutely! Big freakin deal if a guy doesn't have a car. It would probably be a little tricky if I didn't have one (okay, a lot tricky) but as long as I have one, so what??
And what the heck does it have to do with affluence?
I know, assumptions abound | |
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| NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:47:21 PM | | the complaints appear to be coming from men and how a woman may view them not having a car. People have personal preferences the seek in a mate from: has a car, has a job, has a picture, what the body type is etc.... the list goes on. The woman who wont date a man without a car is the same for a man who will not date a women who is not slim......and vice versa, falls under the same umbrella ... except you could lie about the car! | |
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| NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/25/2008 8:43:30 PM | just take if off, it is something that you will learn in conversation with someone its not a deciding factor of if they are worthy enough to date!!!!! Oh and please add on to SMARTS technical/trade school... i dont want n/a ,i mean thats embarassing or at lease have prefer not to say, high school, trade/technical and so on like wtf? pof
cheers | |
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| NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/26/2008 8:09:58 AM |
Do you have a Criminal Record?
That is a very important question. Even if there is something petty on it, it may stop you from getting a certain job. It is also harder, if not impossible, to travel to other countries.
I wish the admin would add it. Of course some people would lie about it just like they do on the car and the drug and smoking thing. | |
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| NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/26/2008 8:23:22 AM | .i can't believe they ask me to pick them up because i have a car and they don't ..whats up with that..wow!!
Of Course they should'nt ask, nor should you pick them up. Its a Safety Issue for first Dates anyways. Nevertheless, it is quite mainstream and probably the Way most People date ... to meet up at a previously arranged location such as a Coffee Shop, Park, etc.
Thus no Car required. I also don't see any Status in owning a Car. Packing a $ 1,000 away monthly for an RRSP is far wiser than wasting it into Car Payments, Gas, Maintenance and Insurance that a Person may not have any practical Use for.
Do you have a Criminal Record? Of course some people would lie about it just like they do on the car and the drug and smoking thing.
Yup, I am sure they would. If they however lie, they might as well rule out any "Long Term" Relationship, in addition to being subjected to the E-Mail Rumour Mill.
Nevertheless, just asking the Question would cause a Lot of Offenders to ship themselves out of here.
The woman who wont date a man without a car is the same for a man who will not date a women who is not slim......
I really don't think that is of comparable Magnitude. For many Users, dating someone who is very "overweight" is simply not an Option, material Possessions next to immaterial.
Cars are too easy to purchase, someone actually losing and keeping off weight ... I have yet ever to see it. | |
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| Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/26/2008 12:06:32 PM | Isint there a question on "income" ? does that not "unfairly penalizs the less affluent" too ?
If one doesnt have a car and they see someone (say) 30 miles away on POF then unless there are very good public transport links the question of whether the other person has a car becomes kinda important does it not ?
<div class="quote"> well you can rent a car for 10.95 a day right??.
I think Ill move to Canada | |
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| Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/26/2008 12:51:47 PM | Come on... it's really a mute point when you think about it. The reality is that if a guy asks a woman out on a date more likely then not she isn't going to want to go in a cab. And the the topic is going to come up in conversation when you ask her out and can't drive. The more info that is put out there to help us all weed through that which we don't want is good. Whether or not you put it on your profile or tell her in an email you don't have a car isn't going to make a difference. The out come will be the same. I just think it's a waste of space putting in the profile when they could have something else instead like eye color  . JMHO | |
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| NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/26/2008 4:05:21 PM | Personally, the "SMARTS" classification is without significance since having "a degree" does not make someone anything except a graduate. Being a graduate does not guarantee the dating world (or otherwise) anything. Many people with degrees are just as likely to be morons as any other group... the only distinction is that they're educated and even MORE capable of being morons. And having a car? Really... this is stooping to a lower denominator since having or not having a car is not a warranty of anything. Many people rent when they need a car. Others use limos, subways, cabs, trains, bicycles and rickshaws.
I would suggest classifications and weighing that are more useful. For instance, a voting system that earmarks certain individuals for being morons. IE: 35 votes and your profile is pulled from the standard database, and quarantined in a class of like individuals. Its fair because you'd be judge by random sanction. It would enhance the general pool. And it would allow people to ENJOY being morons to find each other with ease! PERFECT!
Being that I am a man, I would like to see the following... and a woman should write the equivalent for women: A category I wish POF could employ is for segmenting those who are looking for "a fetus knight in shining armor with a tight butt and abs." This would certainly assist all of us men by removing these women from our searches and place them into their OWN category. It would also satisfy many women because men who fit the category would easily find women who are seeking the same.
Those are my suggestions... thank you. | |
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| NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/26/2008 4:19:17 PM | I have a car and a truck and right now I can drive but lets say I have a seizure tomorrow then I cant drive for 6 months. I still have my vehicles. Should I just put a picture of them on my profile like some guys do and change my answer to prefer not to say? I dont want to be dishonest on my profile. How should I answer this? It could be 20 years before a seizure or tomorrow you just never know. The car thing isnt so black and white thats why every state has driving laws. 
Does your car run?
Is your car in the same state as you?
Does it have tires?
Is it insured? | |
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| Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/26/2008 4:52:24 PM | | Obviously... if we're selecting a mate because they have a car, OR because they have a certain degree... then it's highly possible that the reason we're on POF is because we have NO CLUE what a relationship is based on in the first place. | |
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| NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/26/2008 7:14:19 PM | [Cars are too easy to purchase, .]
Depending on you financial well being, cars may not be easy to purchase AND maintain........therefore in a way the question does intefere with a non car owners ability to met someone, same as the body style question.
[someone actually losing and keeping off weight ... I have yet ever to see it]
look at me......!!! im not as slim as some men would prefer, but you should have seen me 5 years before! Maybe the slim/average women you see, you have not met before!
You are correct, it is not a "of comparable magnitude" it is simply a comparison on the questions asked in creating a profile and how others perceive you when reading them.
No one likes to feel they are being shallow for not meeting/dating a person based on how a person looks or their material possesions. And im sure that most everyone on here who has not wanted to see/date a person based on that , feels this way.. me included.
so... the questions asked when creating a profile, truthfully answered or omitted,, eventually come out when you meet and get to know each other...and then... we must make a decision to keep on dating that person or not. Better to be completely truthful and weed out the ones who may take material possesions, job, body style, age, maybe even astro sign, has kids, doesnt have kids etc as plus or minus in their search.
by they way why not add penis size? oh .. size doesnt matter ..... right? | |
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| NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/26/2008 7:35:50 PM | Boo. OP, I would go out with someone poor in a heartbeat, but not with someone so secretive about it or intent of denying me my right to choose based on MY set of criteria, whatever it is. And how are you going to hide the fact that you don't have a car while going out with her? Besides - if a woman is so shallow, why want her in the first place? Let her Darwin herself, will save you some headache down the road.
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| NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 5/27/2008 5:18:49 PM |
Let her Darwin herself, will save you some headache down the road.
It saves *both* some headache down the road! (did you intend to say 'road'?) 
This is essentially the conclusion people made in the "Education/Smarts" thread. To quote TicketToRide: "It's a mate matching issue." | |
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