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 Author Thread: NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
 Panda1208

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 96
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 6/22/2008 10:15:37 AM
Example: I'm in Queens and have a car. I may meet up with someone who lives in NJ suburbs or farther out on Long Island who has no car (a rare thing). Although its not super far, the gas and tolls add up . Unless we meet in Manhattan all the time or I do all the driving which I can not afford, maybe it would be best for me to look at other options. Realistically it wouldn't be a convenient or do-able situation long term. I know plenty of affluent people who don't own cars and vice versa. It's just another tool to help us make better selections for potential catches.
 nocatchyname

Joined: 1/15/2007
Msg: 97
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 6/22/2008 11:29:12 AM

It would be better to NOT have this option listed on profiles. And allow people to get to know each other as PEOPLE first. Not for what they have or don't have. And if they like each other, whether or not they have an automobile becomes less of an issue. Or IF it's that important to someone, they can ask the question themselves. This makes it a fairer playing field and encourages better relationships.

I'm hoping the administrator of plentyoffish can and will remove this from the profiles headings.


I disagree, I say keep it. For some people who live in more rural areas (such as myself), it is helpful to know whether the person they might be interested in has a car or not. Not that it will always affect the chances of sending them a message, but it's useful to know beforehand.
 Ferruginous

Joined: 5/12/2008
Msg: 98
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 6/22/2008 12:00:55 PM

For some people who live in more rural areas
I live in a very rural area.
But I think the feature should be abolished.
I'll agree that it is useful to know if a person who you're planning to meet has a car or not.
But, I think you can just as easilly learn that about them if/when you start planning to meet them.
I see no need to include it on profiles, since I (and I believe many others) aren't making a decision to meet someone, based on the 1st glance at their profile.


If I am interested in getting to know a person, and she's likewise interested in getting to know me, she'll eventually learn that I do have a vehicle and I'm legally allowed to drive it.
If that person's only interested in forming an initial impression of me, based on my response to that question, then chances are she'll never get to know me anyways.
 ROSETTA1963

Joined: 10/21/2006
Msg: 99
NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:50:18 AM
i couldnt care less if a guy has a car, im more interested that he has a job and can support himself. there are many reason why ppl dont have cars, why have a car if u stay in the city and work in the city someplaces price for parking is crazy, it will cost u more to park the darn thing then buy one. plus if u live in the city u have public transportion and y waste gas when u dont have to, there is enuf pollution.

If i was younger i wouldnt have a vehicle at all. insurance is outrages.
between gas and insurance prices u have to have a job just to pay that.
LITTLE INFO FOR PPL THAT HAVE A VEHICLE AND DONT DRIVE ALL THE TIME- U CAN LOWER RATES FOR UR INSURANCE ASK UR AGENT. SOME PPL DONT KNOW THAT. IF U DRIVE LESS THEN 35 MILES A DAY U GET SPECIAL RATES WITH CERTAIN COMPANIES. SO CHECK INTO IT.

SORRY I KINDA WENT INTO ANOTHER SUBJET , BUT I THINK WE ALL NEED TO HELP EACH OTHER ABOUT WHATS OUT THERE.
TAKE CARE EVERYONE!
 Netgeek34

Joined: 7/23/2004
Msg: 100
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:54:03 AM
If the car question really bothers people so much why not just put "prefer not to say" and be done with it ?
 marita_b

Joined: 6/15/2005
Msg: 101
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 7/9/2008 12:21:40 PM


If the car question really bothers people so much why not just put "prefer not to say" and be done with it ?


Because the,...."prefer not to say" ,.....does answer the question,......

are you married,..."prefer not to say" ,...answer ,....yup,...S/He's married

do you smoke,....."prefer not to say" ,....answer,...yup,...like a chimney,.....

Do you work,....."prefer not to say" ,.....S/He either isn't working or has a shitty job,...none of which they care to boast about,....

do you want kids,....."prefer not to say" ,....no S/he doesn't they already have enough of their own to worry about,....but for the right certain someone,....anything is possible

do you have,....do you do,....will you do,.....do you want,.....
"prefer not to say" says it all loud and clear

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Now having said that,....I must be the dumbest or most naive' person on this site,.... because it never even occurred to me that by saying I am dependent on the buses might make me un-datable,... or have someone think I may have lost my license,....for having been a bad girl somewhere along the line,....

nor is anyone to assume that I want or need them to pick me up,...something I won't allow or do, for safety reason's,....

I mention it only to allow enough time notice when meeting someone,....

I guess assumptions are bad all around,.... thanks for the eye opener,....
 Ferruginous

Joined: 5/12/2008
Msg: 102
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 7/9/2008 2:53:55 PM

If the car question really bothers people so much why not just put "prefer not to say" and be done with it ?
I did put "prefer not to say".

Now people will make the assumptions that:
-I have no vehicle
-I have no driver's licence
-I expect them to be my chauffer
-etc
-etc
None of those are true in my case. But people glancing at my profile will assume them to be.
 marita_b

Joined: 6/15/2005
Msg: 103
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 7/9/2008 3:18:11 PM
I wish they had a,...." none of your business" ,....option,.... or an,..."I will fill you in on that later" option

because some of the information by rights is none of our business until you get to know someone better,.... something usually done in eventual letters,...phone conversations,....and face to face meetings,....

because it is true,...people do assume,....
 Ferruginous

Joined: 5/12/2008
Msg: 104
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 7/9/2008 3:31:17 PM

because some of the information by rights is none of our business
I'll agree.

If I'm getting to know someone on here, I have no problem letting her know my level of education, what type of a vehicle I drive, what I do for a living, as well as other things.

But I'd rather not be judged by some random stranger on the internet, who is seeing my profile for the first time, who is prepared to make stupid assumptions about me (possitive or negative) based entirely on my answers (or non-answers) to those question.s
 tonykneeland

Joined: 6/23/2008
Msg: 105
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Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 7/9/2008 9:16:21 PM
no car? quit whining id say
 coolduke88

Joined: 3/23/2006
Msg: 106
NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluen
Posted: 7/10/2008 12:41:24 AM
Ask yourself these questions...

Do you really want to meet a person who only cares about the car you drive?


no no no

Do you think a person so superficial is worth the time and effort of getting to know?

no no no



also i want to add this alot of people im not saying all who drive get help from their parents
i dont have that luxery i make it on my own and i choose not to drive eether and feed the expensive gas companys wallet
i think it just sux being judged by whether u drive a car or not and what kinda car u drive if u do
 Netgeek34

Joined: 7/23/2004
Msg: 107
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 7/10/2008 12:22:56 PM

I did put "prefer not to say".
Now people will make the assumptions that:
-I have no vehicle
-I have no driver's licence
-I expect them to be my chauffer
-etc
-etc
None of those are true in my case. But people glancing at my profile will assume them to be. .


Well at least you wont get messaged by presumptious types
 Frankycadillac

Joined: 5/1/2008
Msg: 108
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 7/10/2008 5:03:47 PM
there is a car being produced in india fairly inexpensively, used car dealerships still exist. Go buy a car, then change your profile.

what you really want is a car, not for plenty of fish to change their website.
 sweetness-one

Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 109
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NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 7/10/2008 5:14:18 PM

also i want to add this alot of people im not saying all who drive get help from their parents


Uhh....okay? *scratching head here*, sorry.

I really still don't see why this is such a big deal. For every POF category that's ever been created, someone has had an opposition to it. Frankly, if anyone's opposed to the whole "do you have a car?" thing for whatever reason....wouldn't you just consider that to be one more little step in your weeding-out process, if you find that someone won't talk to you or meet you because you don't have a car? I really don't see it as being an issue of being "affluent" or not...if I lived in NYC or Toronto where wonderful transit systems exist, I probably wouldn't have a car either, and wouldn't care if anyone I met did either.

Geez, it's not like the drop-down menu is asking what TYPE of car you have, after all.
 Ferruginous

Joined: 5/12/2008
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Posted: 7/10/2008 8:30:23 PM
Well at least you wont get messaged by presumptious types


I really still don't see why this is such a big deal. For every POF category that's ever been created, someone has had an opposition to it. Frankly, if anyone's opposed to the whole "do you have a car?" thing for whatever reason....wouldn't you just consider that to be one more little step in your weeding-out process,
These are good points.
I guess it will weed oout shallow and/or presumptious types.

however
What pisses me off about adding more of these categories is: this site is helping to create more of those preasumptious types, by being more accomodating such people.
With less of these drop down menus to select from, people would actually have to read profiles, and exchange correspondence with people, and actually get to know them.
By creating more drop-downs, it gives more people reasons to make stupid assumptions of people based on the answers they select, and immediately jump to conclussions about people, without bothering to get to know them.


I'd one of the people who voices opposition to almost every POF category created. Always for the same reason, whatever the category:
I'd prefer a site that caters to people who'd take time getting to know others.
Rather than a site that caters to the people who want to select their mate based entirely on the choices in a bunch of drop-down menus.

 coolduke88

Joined: 3/23/2006
Msg: 111
NEW FEATURE: Listing of Car or no car unfairly penalizes less affluent
Posted: 7/11/2008 12:06:49 AM
thats the point too many people care more about what u have instead of who u are as a person
thats my point about the car question
its a materialistic question
thats the point i think its shallow


im honest i put no i dont have a car
if i get less email then so be it
im still gonna sleep at night
 Netgeek34

Joined: 7/23/2004
Msg: 112
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Posted: 7/11/2008 9:46:27 AM

I'd one of the people who voices opposition to almost every POF category created. .


Ummmm are you okay with "male/female" ?
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