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Posted: 5/24/2008 9:10:52 AM | No, I don't think it does qualify that way. At least not normally.. 
Of course you can twist almost anything to be something other than what it is, if you try hard enough.
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Posted: 5/24/2008 9:24:41 AM |
that the media focuses on such stupid points.
Yes, they do find dumb stuff (not necessarily this) to fill their air time.
Can you imagine a political campaign 200 years ago? Before communication was in real time?
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Posted: 5/24/2008 9:44:31 AM |
No, I don't think it does qualify that way. At least not normally
You are the guy who posted those Obama quotes out of context, right. But it's not something you'd ever do, eh. Keep up the good work.
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Posted: 5/24/2008 9:49:27 AM |
You are the guy who posted those Obama quotes out of context, right. But it's not something you'd ever do, eh. Keep up the good work.
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Posted: 5/24/2008 10:05:00 AM | Now Bill is pushing for a new job for Hillary...Vice-President. Scary thought... | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 10:09:35 AM | | Don't be so fast to beatup on Hillary...no one has had a chance to run it though the context meter yet. I'm sure that after it is reviewed and put into the proper context of its true meaning and not just on what she actually said. The Obama has a good context meter...she should use his. Probably boil down to nothing more than shes worried about all those little people clinging to their religion and guns in order to give reason to their meaningless existence. Never know what the little people might do and she was just expressing her concern. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 10:12:33 AM | | Bill just wants to get her in the Whitehouse so that he can attend the tea parties with all the other first ladies. He's desperate to pour tea for Carla Bruni, Nicolas Sarkozy's new wife. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 10:21:09 AM | | coming from a guy that thinks canada builds their own subs,wasn't in the gulf war,and didn't go into aghan.thats irony.sorry about those boys that got it by friendly,we truly mourned the loss of our brothers in arms,they were the best.always held your flag high and proud. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 10:41:49 AM | It was a stupid thing to say... and kind of shines light on her craven thought processes...
Other than that it's not much but more of the same. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 10:58:31 AM | evnsteven profoundly enunciates:
You are the guy who posted those Obama quotes out of context, right. But it's not something you'd ever do, eh. Keep up the good work.
Wrong! Of course if you actually read said thread, I wouldn't have to explain it to you. But this is another topic altogether.
So, on a side note, what happened to your and itech's shoot-em-up video games? Usually on Saturday we don't have to put up with you two, thanks to Xbox!
-Suth'nBoy 
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Posted: 5/24/2008 11:08:04 AM | Uninterested, you're funny. But I don't think Carla is young enough for Bill. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 11:20:16 AM | The response of the Obama campaign was pathetic. They seemed to suggest that the mention of RFK was a call for the assasination of Obama.
Every time someone says that the BO campaign doesn't like, they whine that it's racist or something. This "man" isn't tough enough to be POTUS. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 11:25:55 AM | What response was that?
The only one I've seen is this:
"Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.
How is that 'pathetic'?
Hillary's camp whines that everthing that doesn't go her way is 'sexist'... how does that make her so much tougher than Obama is? | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 11:56:48 AM | Gee, I'm not sure I've heard Senator Clinton claiming sexism..
You say she does that a lot?
It's not at all admirable though for the Obama camp, and the Obama-leaning Media, especially MSNBC, to claim that she somehow meant something she didn't say. But then MSNBC obviously has an axe to grind with the Clintons. However News organizations should be professional, and above things like that.
-Suth'nBoy
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Posted: 5/24/2008 12:04:49 PM |
So, on a side note, what happened to your and itech's shoot-em-up video games? Usually on Saturday we don't have to put up with you two, thanks to Xbox!
You don't have to be an A-hole Suth.
It's okay, I forgive you because I too was once like you. I believed the Boogey man lived under my bed until I realized the real Boogey men were the people feeding me the knowledge they wanted me to believe that I helped elect to go to Washington. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 12:06:45 PM | Suth'nBoy,
I didn't say Hillary personally claimed sexism (though I believe I've seen her allude to it)... I said 'Hillary's camp'... much as you said 'the Obama campaign'...
I haven't seen Obama personally crying that attacks against him were 'racist'... but a lot of his followers have... just as many of Hillary's followers have cried about sexist attacks against her. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 12:31:17 PM |
"Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.
How is that 'pathetic'?
The implication was that Clinton meant something that she did not say: that Obama should be assassinated. It's another example of this wimp's oversensitive handlers and it reinforces the perception that Obama is too thin-skinned to be POTUS. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 7:10:24 PM | | I'm starting to think that Senator Clinton is coming on as too masculine, she's losing her feminine side which is very much needed in this country. And why the heck can't she ever wear a skirt? Margaret Thatcher and Queen Elizabeth don't have to wear pants to be taken seriously. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 7:12:27 PM | | Well, I see someone took this thread a little too hard. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 7:16:40 PM | | I can't see her in a skirt and thigh highs...*gah | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 7:17:13 PM |
Hillary's camp whines that everthing that doesn't go her way is 'sexist'... how does that make her so much tougher than Obama is? I don't know but I wish they'd stop playing the sexist card for her it's not working. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 8:35:36 PM | For those bemoaning Barack, he was actually trying to do the right thing in saying this... Inspite of what others are saying about it. (myself included)
"AGUADILLA, Puerto Rico (Reuters) - Democratic presidential front-runner Barack Obama empathized with rival Hillary Clinton on Saturday for the firestorm she ignited by referring to the 1968 assassination of Robert Kennedy.
"I have learned that when you are campaigning for as many months as Senator Clinton and I have been campaigning, sometimes you get careless in terms of the statements that you make and I think that is what happened here," Obama said in an interview with Radio Isla Puerto Rico during a campaign visit to the Caribbean Island and U.S. territory."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080525/pl_nm/usa_politics_dc | |
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Posted: 5/25/2008 4:37:15 AM | Well I usually never miss Keith, but it appears this night I did. According to Keith Olberman this is not the first time she's said this same phrase. I know how some of you feel about him, but you also have the option of checking out the issue of Time he's referencing here.
She said, in an off-camera interview with Time on March 6, "Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June, also in California. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual. We will see how it unfolds as we go forward over the next three to four months."
And again she said it:
After the Indiana primary, on May 7, she told supporters at a Washington hotel:
"Sometimes you gotta calm people down a little bit. But if you look at successful presidential campaigns, my husband did not get the nomination until June of 1992. I remember tragically when Senator Kennedy won California near the end of that process."
And at Shepherdstown, West Virginia, on the same day, she referenced it again:
"You know, I remember very well what happened in the California primary in 1968 as, you know, Senator Kennedy won that primary."
So now what do we make of it? Kind of makes me want to retract my original post on this thread where I gave her the benefit of the doubt, and say that yes, there are no missteps with Clinton. Everything is carefully thought out and practiced, with full intent. I hate to speculate on her intent here. But I am not sure we need to. | |
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Posted: 5/25/2008 4:54:57 AM | I can't say I've seen anybody in the Clinton camp holler about sexism. Maybe I don't watch enough TV. I guess I miss out on some of the good stuff!
Sure, she has commented about being the first woman in the White House, and she has said that's a milestone that perhaps not everyone is comfortable with. But I wouldn't consider that complaining about sexism. I haven't seen Terry McCollough say anything like that either. Both of them tend to maintain a very positive outlook, especially all things considered. They've been fighting an uphill battle all the way.
As for the Media twisting Clinton's commentary into something it's not, and pulling evil suggestions on "what they feel she just might have been thinking" out of the blue, which she obviously never said, I'd suggest they get a Hell of a LOT more professional about this campaign. They are very likely to sabatage their own ratings. They've really gotten down into the gutter, in trying so hard to manipulate this election. Hard to imagine what they hope to gain from that.
-Suth'nBoy
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Posted: 5/25/2008 5:09:52 AM | I've said the same thing four times in discussions about when/if she should concede and let Obama go nose to nose with McCain.
I can easily give her the benefit of the doubt because I said it as (only) an example of when a Democratic nomination campaign went into June.
Much ado about nothing, in my view.
That said, while I'd love to see a woman in the Whitehouse, if the ado helps break the weird Bush/Clinton dynasty thing y'all've got yourselves into, I'm okay with that.
And hoping they can keep Obama safe. | |
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