| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 5:32:01 AM |
So now what do we make of it? Kind of makes me want to retract my original post on this thread where I gave her the benefit of the doubt, and say that yes, there are no missteps with Clinton. Everything is carefully thought out and practiced, with full intent. I hate to speculate on her intent here. But I am not sure we need to. I hadn't known that Senator Clinton made the same misstep before until I read your post, thank you for enlightening myself and others. Senator Clinton is far too intelligent to make the same misstep twice in my opinion and she will be forever remembered for these two comments..maybe realizing she is losing the race she doesn't care what she says.. If she is as smart as I think she is she should stick to being a Senator for life as others have. | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 5:46:41 AM | How is it a misstep to mention the fact that there is a history of these contests running into June?
The press looks for controversy where there is none, and will interpret soundbites for their own purposes regardless of what a candidate says - it sells.
Her opponents do the same to turn eyes away from themselves and their own failed/failing policies.
You'll perhaps notice she didn't say "I'm a better candidate than Obama, because he's more likely to be assassinated than I am, and if I just wait until June, maybe someone will get him." | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:13:01 AM |
You'll perhaps notice she didn't say "I'm a better candidate than Obama, because he's more likely to be assassinated than I am, and if I just wait until June, maybe someone will get him."
But that is what the crybabies in the Obama campaign heard. What a bunch of pathetic wimps.
The Democrats better start thinking about who will face McCain in 2012. If it is inevitable that Obama is their candidate in November, they will lose yet again. | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:22:01 AM |
You'll perhaps notice she didn't say "I'm a better candidate than Obama, because he's more likely to be assassinated than I am, and if I just wait until June, maybe someone will get him."
No, the pundits have been saying that. What a personal physical and emotional toll this campaign has had to have been for her. When I first heard the statement the word 'assassinated' didn't even stand out to me I guess because I understood the historical reference. Whenever the RFK incident is brought up it has always been noted that it was after a significant primary win during a highly competitive and in doubt nominating campaign late into the season. I got it.
As for the gamesmanship of the Obama campaign, they had months to learn the game well from being on the other side. | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 8:40:18 AM | As much as I dislike ole Hill/Bill I don't believe for a second that she was suggesting Obama would be assassinated.
I just think it was an awkward way of suggesting that it is not unusual for Dem races to go into June. | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 8:42:41 AM | | Like I said on the other thread why is it OK for Obama and his supporters to refer to JFK all the time..he was assassinated as well....Double standards anyone?.... | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 8:57:50 AM | The difference here Insolent, is that when Obama talks about JFK he is not saying anything about his assassination. Hillary brought up RFK three times and talked of how he was assassinated in this contest in June. She could very well just have said "well my husband wrapped up the nomination in 1992 in the middle of June...it's an historic fact that these things sometimes go into June"....but she did not choose to do that. She chose, three times, to stick RFK in there and his 'tragic end'.
I said it before, that i was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt until I found out that this was not the first time she said it. Basically word for word. | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 8:59:07 AM | Just as I've often warned about the dangers of a McCain presidency with his nasty temper, Shrillary's inability to think before she speaks makes her potentially dangerous as a president. Obama is the only one of the three with a rational mind and ability to think logically. Obama/Spock 2008 | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 9:01:37 AM | I appreciate your position, that is much the same way I feel about Obama and Dr Wright....
in regards to her statements I see no difference, what is the First thing most people remember when they hear the name JFK? I think that this is yet another example of the special treatment that Obama has benefited from because of his race..... | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 9:02:05 AM |
Gee, I'm not sure I've heard Senator Clinton claiming sexism..
You say she does that a lot?
For someone who posts a lot on this subject Suth'n, you're sure not following the news.
NEW YORK In an interview with The Washington Post's Lois Romano, Hillary Clinton hit "sexism" in media coverage of her campaign as "deeply offensive to millions of women." She criticized the "vitriol" from "misogynists" and said that the race factor was often discussed but not gender: "[E]very poll I've seen show more people would be reluctant to vote for a woman to vote for an African American, which rarely gets reported on, either."
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003805819
WASHINGTON (AFP) — Hillary Clinton called sexist attacks on her campaign "deeply offensive" Tuesday, as female supporters sprang to her defense, saying she speaks for all women and should stay in the Democratic race to the bitter end.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gh66101lpbu-Wlb4vOchO5b_HQOA
Ferraro, a former member of Clinton's finance committee who resigned that post earlier this year after making comments many viewed as racially offensive, also said she thinks the Illinois senator has been "terribly sexist" over the course of the presidential campaign.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/19/ferraro-suggests-she-may-not-vote-for-obama/
Everybody is getting tired of her and her excuses for her poorly run campaign. Apparently we haven't yet seen the depth to which she is willing to stoop yet. Many people who were initially ambivalent about the race have been disgusted by her displays and double standards. She is now being propped up less by people who actually support her, but more by people who have an irrational fear of Obama. More negative politics - just what America needs.
Consider: Last fall, Clinton was widely judged the prohibitive front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination. In early October, she led Obama by a staggering 53 percent to 20 percent in the Washington Post/ABC News poll. At that point, her average lead in national polls was 20 percentage points.
Therefore, if gender bias really were the cause of her primary problem, one would have to posit that a epidemic of resurgent sexism suddenly infected the country late last year.
Further, as Clinton herself has pointed out, she has emerged as the favorite of working-class white men, a cohort sometimes viewed as resistant to women politicians.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/05/16/clintons_sexism_dodge/ | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 9:03:48 AM | ^^^ Nothin but net....good post. Thanks for that one. :)
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 9:08:33 AM |
Just as I've often warned about the dangers of a McCain presidency with his nasty temper
What a joke.
Bill Clinton was infamous for his berating of his underlings.
Get ready for McCain I. | |
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| She didn't mean it that way...
Posted: 5/25/2008 9:21:31 AM |
what is the First thing most people remember when they hear the name JFK?
I don't know about most, but I think of him inspiring a nation to put a man on the moon, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country", "Ich bin ein Berliner" and Marilyn singing Happy Birthday...and only then do I think of how your nation and the world was robbed by his death.
OT: I'd love to see a woman president, but if something like this brings an end to the Bush/Clinton dynasty ... I'm okay with that. | |
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| She didn't mean it that way...
Posted: 5/25/2008 2:43:43 PM | Here's another equally shocking and appalling, ugly little factoid about Clinton that's just come out today. This one ranks right up there too!
I couldn't believe it, and I could NEVER vote for her knowing this.. All this time I never knew! I feel deceived, cheated and manipulated. Almost as though they had kicked me in the gut.  I doubt I'll ever be able to get past this one! There was a time when I actually supported her candidacy. Hard to believe!!
I thought we had dug up lots of dirt on her before! Like this thing about reading what awful thoughts she may have been thinking about Obama. Seems there's something new that comes out almost every day about this woman!
She had better get out of the race and GET OUT NOW! It's OVER!
Obama or McCain in '08!
This one is just Despicable!!! She's a SCORPIO!! 
-Suth'nBoy 
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| She didn't mean it that way...
Posted: 5/25/2008 4:04:50 PM | I think he also forgot the P-E-R-I-M-E-N-O-P-A-U-S-A-L
R-A-V-I-N-G
L-O-O and N.
Hey Suth'n, did you get a chance to research "The Family" yet? Doug Coe? Here, I'll post a link for ya.
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525?pg=1
This is The Family that Hillary looks to when she has a need for spiritual advisement. | |
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| She didn't mean it that way... Sheesh!!.
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:02:55 PM | Thank you for all of the replies here. In thought, even if she didn't mean to insinuate any link to the timing of tragedy, couldn't she have brought forth a better way to demonstrate the dates and times and how long these things have run their course?
Instead of saying it, not just once, but a few times?
Intent or no, it just seemed in bad taste, at least to me.
And Insolent1, this referencing to the death of the gentleman it happened to (if it is indeed meant that way) is no way similar to any reference Barack speaks of with regards to JFK. You seriously need to get a grip. If anything, his mentioning him is meant for others to think back to a time when changes in this country were happening and technology was changing, and we were looking toward a bright future. Not even close to what you are stating in any way. | |
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| She didn't mean it that way... Sheesh!!.
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:10:43 PM | Just as I've often warned about the dangers of a McCain presidency with his nasty temper, Shrillary's inability to think before she speaks makes her potentially dangerous as a president. Obama is the only one of the three with a rational mind and ability to think logically.
Talk about twisting things to fit your own agenda. Please! This had NOTHING to do with McCain, and had everything to do with a Candidate that has been campaigning hard and is tired, and probably didn't think through the statement before she made it. I believe Mr. Obama had already said that this is a long campaign and they are tired and she mis-spoke. Just as he has. | |
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| She didn't mean it that way... Sheesh!!.
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:23:46 PM | | I am assuming that she didn't think it through to see that some people might be offended by her statement. Hey, if bad judgement was a crime, Obama would have been locked up for sticking up for Wright back in March. I'm not defending her, I'm just amazed that people twist these comments to fit their own agenda. | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 7:51:34 PM | Sen. Hillary Clinton referred Friday to the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968 Democratic campaign as a reason she should continue to campaign despite increasingly long odds.
As much as I hate Hitlery, I watched her make this comment and can see nothing wrong in what she said. RFK has been dead for 3 decades and anyone still traumatized over his death needs to learn how to move on. | |
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 9:08:32 PM |
I think he also forgot the P-E-R-I-M-E-N-O-P-A-U-S-A-L
R-A-V-I-N-G
L-O-O and N.
WOW
talk about sexism in this campaign-
here's another example of the use of it
attacking Clinton for being a "perimenopausal raving loon"!!!!
jesus christ, what the hell is wrong with you Obama supporters-
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 9:10:41 PM | I did that specifically for the sexism side. Glad you noticed. ;)
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| Surely she didn't
Posted: 5/25/2008 9:14:48 PM | ^^^^^^
so if I posted a racist slur to show racism in this campaign-
THAT would be funny too!
I VERY much doubt that- | |
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