| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/29/2008 5:33:48 AM | Keep in mind i was only asking what every one thought, This was a convo a lady was having here at my work. As for my thoughts on it are, i agree you can be highly intelligent and still abuse your body for the simple fact that people reguardless of how smart you DO NOT RESPECT YOUR OR LOVE YOUR SELF enough to allow your body to have a clean and non abusive life. Its like treating the brand new car you bought like shit. Putting in diesel fuel instead of gas, not putting in oil for the engine, not keeping tires rotated, soon enough that car will be break down from treating it so bad. Believe me your body is not the same thing but the neglect will cause your body overtime to break down as well.
So i think the abuse comes from having no respect for your body. If you did then you would not treat it so bad, especially if you know the effects of your actions. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/29/2008 12:16:04 PM | Well let's see....
Besides the obvious things like alcohol, cigarettes, and narcotics that people like to pounce on as being "slow body killers" and the "dummies" who partake occasionally.... Here's a list of other well-known harmful man-made products the OP failed to mention :
- polluted urban and suburban air.... and no doubt probably the so-called 'fresh country air' by now too
- city distributed water (whether it came from your tap or a bottle)
- the carpet, linoleum, laminate, and wood flooring in your house.... actually, any and all materials your house is built from
- pretty much any man-made product sitting in your house right now
- the flea collar on your dog
- the pressure treated lumber you used to build your kid's treehouse
- the toys your baby sticks in his/her mouth regularly
- the plastic bottle you give your baby filled with chemically processed apple juice
- the disposable diapers your baby is wearing right now
- the microwave you use to reheat your leftover can of Chef Boyardee ravioli
- processed foods
- fast foods
- damn near any food or liquid you buy from a grocery store has been chemically enhanced of some sort
- so-called "organic" foods at your local grocery store
- the Miracle-Gro and any other plant food product (even your compost) you use to feed the 'organic' tomatoes you're growing in your back yard
- the various forms of containers your food/drink come in
- the napkins you use to wipe your mouth and the toilet paper you use to wipe your ass
- tv's
- computer monitors
- cell phones and cordless phones
- vehicles, lawn mowers, weed whackers, chain saws, etc etc
- the clothing on your back and the chemical processes used to manufacture them
- makeup, hair dye, hair spray, shampoo, deodorant, soap, toothpaste, moisturizer, aftershave, perfume, shaving foam, the plastic disposable razor you use to shave your face/legs
- bug spray, suntan lotion
- bug killing products (ie: Raid, Roach Motel, mosquito foggers)
- household cleaning products
- chemically processed so-called natural herbal remedies/pills you buy at your local health store, which by the way is packaged in plastic bottles too..... yes, even the mass produced little green tea bags you put in your cup of boiled water
- any medicine ingested (tylenol, gravol, pepto bismol, cough syrup, etc etc etc) and/or any topical medicine (Rub A535, Absorbine Jr, etc etc)
- the hydro lines and transformers hanging over your house
..... and the list just goes on and on and on
Hmmm, so in keeping with the OP's theory.... that makes each and every one of us unintelligent morons by definition.
Ever eat a box of Kraft dinner with the powdered cheese, OP ? Wow.... you're not too intelligent, are you ? No respect for your body.... sheesh.
Unintelligent theories with lack of empirical evidences..... *sigh*
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/29/2008 8:03:17 PM | Why stop at addiction or chemically damaging substances? What about activities that you pay for later? Dancing - dancing is very hard on the joints. Running - appears to cause male baldness and heart attacks. Equestrian events - we come off and it hurts.
Doing no activities and spending time on the internet or games - very bad for your overall health. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/29/2008 9:06:26 PM | Doing things that are bad for oneself are more the result of upbringing. Then, at a certain point, they can become addictions. I was raised around smokers and took it up at a young age. Then I was addicted. Then I spent forever trying to get off the stupid things. If it was possible to reason oneself out of an addiction, then there would be far few smokers and alcoholics.
Also, there can be some negative family history. Abuse and its effects can't be reasoned away. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/30/2008 5:23:08 AM | | Im sorry but heart attacks are not caused by running,, i have no idea where you heard that but im quite certain about this. That is caused by bad eating habits, its not even from high cholesterol. The foods we eat make a condition in your arteries called "atherosclerosis" which is a build up of plaque on your arteries. This is the reason for heart attack. It builds up and narrows the passage way for the blood to pump into your heart causing your heart to work harder with less blood. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/30/2008 9:58:18 AM | I read a great article once entitled "When The Mind Betrays the Body" (I think). In a nutshell, if you stick you hand in fire, the mind has a very good way of protecting the body. Pain. The mind also knows of all sorts of other dangers potential and real. But what happens to the mind when it permits a person to say, commit suicide? There's an obvious breakdown in proper functioning which is probably induced via chemical imbalances.
Drugs introduce a chemical imbalance in the brain. Sure it can and does happen on it's own via diet (lack of vitamins) and environmental factors (PTSD and such), but ingesting them certainly adds to the likelihood.
Intelligence has nothing to do with it. Telling an addict, like someone who suffers from depression, to simply "shake it off" is like telling someone to shake off their insulin resistance. | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 5/30/2008 10:12:58 AM | Hi kirk, if you have ever seen an original manuscript of Churchill, you will have found he was an awful speller and the handwritten pages are a mess of corrections.
So what. But it sure made me feel better about my own ability as a writer. We are believe in the myth, when he was just a privileged man. Albeit a great orator. But so is George Galloway whom most despise. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/30/2008 2:30:20 PM | Winston churchill was a good prime minister at that particurlar time. He did suffer from depression and this was related to the lack of love he experienced as a child.
He was ignored by his mother. It has nothing to do with intelligence its about self esteem which is a different issue altogether.
Drug taking is related to self esteem in experiments on people who take cocaine it has been shown that at the time when poeple take the drug their self esteem is at its lowest.
A person can overcome conflicts using cognitive behavour techniques and good counselling. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/30/2008 6:46:20 PM | Yes.
I drink and smoke. I enjoy them physically. Has nothing to do with how smart I am. It has to do with enjoying the single thing you can not get more of. Time
Have a good time and quit trying to boost your low self esteem by projecting your "better ways" on others. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 5/30/2008 8:54:30 PM | I don't smoke, drink sparsely and rarely, get plenty of exercise, keep my weight within the recommended range (I think I look chunky), abstain from promiscuity, and other than a bad reaction to the med I took to quit smoking, can't even remember the last time I was ill. And, it is my sincere belief I must be bordering on out and out stupidity.
At best, I have about 20 yrs. left, so why am I not out doing everything and anything I enjoy? How much could cigarettes, alcohol, and wild men really shorten my life? And, if I'm going to wind up in a nursing home for the last few years, why do I even want to extend my life? | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/1/2008 4:01:01 AM | Better to have the intelligence to know what stuff does to the body and then decide if u want to do stuff to it
I could go thru life worrying if eating choclate might make me fat or have teeth problems, or too much of one food, not enough of another......
most smokers seem to be addicted, was smart enough not to get addicted :) | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/1/2008 4:50:07 AM | I think some addictions are generational if you have parents who smoke and drink that can influence a person unless of course they make a decision young not to do it.
Its the same with eating habits, some people are brought up on bad diets and have ill health because of it. More knowledge is required. Half the kids these days are overweight cos of the crap they eat, advertising dosent help its all a big manipulative con by many people who do not give a damm about people,s health.
Advertising in smoking gives an image that is false.
Addictons are not good. Their is addicton to shopping and overworking some people will work 20 hours have little time for families and marriages fall apart and then they end up having a heart attack from the stress. They are aiming for success but all they are creating is a mess. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/1/2008 12:22:22 PM | There are different types of intelligence and I think that there is no upper limit -- no matter who you are, you could know better and do better than you do. (I get far too weighed down with this feeling at times: wishing I knew better and could do better). Sometimes we know better intellectually, but doing better is emotionally beyond us.
Many smart people have unhealthy habits, such as smoking. There is far more to life than personal health: this is such a small dimension to our being in the world and everything in our lives is interconnected. My opinion of intelligence is that much of it is about living the life you want to live doing something you really feel is worth doing, being mindful in your actions, thinking before acting and being able to make choices that are mostly positive. Sometimes the choice of an apparently unhealthy activity is the best way that a person has available to them to deal with an emotional problem and allow them to maintain the other things that are of value to them. Instead of shouting and causing others a lot of hassle or unhappiness, we hold onto our feelings and get sick, for example; or turn to food, drugs or alcohol to bring relief. There are other ways to deal with the problems but if we don't know of them or don't see them as options, we can do no better than this. This is true for every human in some measure. I have more respect for those whose coping mechanisms damage their health than those who lash out without restraint and hurt others. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/1/2008 2:35:09 PM | well news to op , we are all going to die , don,t matter how much you run , eat greens ,so you pop your clogs at 65 and maybe you could of hung in till you where 85 big deal !!!!!!!!!!!! in the scheme of things its means nothing .
I think the health fascism these days is pretty stupid , I'm going to continue smoking because I like smoking , I will continue getting ridiculously drunk ,because there is nothing better in life than having a good laugh .off now to eat a big fat cream cake instead of dinner .
too scared of dying to start living ? | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/3/2008 6:10:47 AM | Well, now those are some interesting comments about addiction. My main thought was cause this gurl was talking about this dude here at work. So really i was just posting to see everyones thoughts. Very interesting to say the least. I mean its has become the "NORM" to abuse your body and not even think twice about it. I mean sure smoke, drink, and shoot shit in your arm...drink your 50 cups of coffee because you must do what it take to get that GOOD FEELING you get from your smokes or your booze or your drugs.
One thing that is funny, everyone seems to be proud of how badly they treat their bodies. Of course like one of the other posters had mentioned there are a million and one things we do that does kill us slowly but this abuse we consume on a daily basis that does effect our biological side, we dont see how much damage we do because we cant moniter it thru a lense. Im sure if you could see it in your face you wouldnt be so quick to do those things.
I have more to say but i will wait...haha  | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/3/2008 8:36:40 AM | No matter how intelligent a person is, there are periods of time in which he or she can have relapses in judgement, for example, due to peer pressure. They may know in their minds what potential harm whatever they're about to do will cause, but they may begin to have second thoughts because "their friends are doing it." It's human nature to want to be part of the pack, and another part of it may be the self-denial aspect of addiction: I'll stop myself before it becomes a problem.
There is a fine line between ignorance and stupidity, but they are not the same. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/3/2008 12:13:49 PM | Sigmund Freud was an avid cocaine user during the years that most of his theories and studies were made – much of the focus of his work being a direct result of his overuse of the drug. He and his mentor (I forget his name now) imported the drug to their lab to use it in their study of schizophrenia and both became chronic users – Dr. Freud dying eventually of cancer of the jaw, very possibly from his years of oral injection of the drug.
Intelligent people make stupid choices and decisions. It’s part of being human. And doing ‘bad’ things to your body has nothing to do with whether a person is or isn’t intelligent. It’s about where a person’s priorities lie and this is a matter of personal choice. And intelligent people and stupid people both have their personal preferences.
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/3/2008 1:57:21 PM | Well every pot head I know watches discovery channel zoned out for hours and they claim to be smart cookies. I laugh at them and tell them to read a book.
But everyone one earth has a had momentary lapses in judgement, but staying in an altered state for a prolonged period will cause some extreme effects on a persons mental and emotional health. A proper definition of intelligence is needed to explore the question futher. What I believe intelligence to be is this : Intelligence is not the ability to memorize things, it is the ablity to take the information thus far absorbed and see how it is applicable to the current situation. So I suppose one has to truely look at the effects of substances on ones emotional state, and physical state, I'd say this is a case by case problem, generalities could be dangerous though I guess because I know resposible people who drink often and smoke weed often, and I wouldn't call them fools. Depends on a persons level of control over themsleves, and level of control the substance has on them. Cigarettes are a good example to examine I think, I'm tring to quit, it's the intelligent thing to do. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/4/2008 5:46:52 AM | Well thats great to hear your trying to quit. The thing is thats the main problem. Alot of people can only try......nothing towards you but when i hear im TRYING ...I guess for most ppl thats about as good as it gets. I read somewhere that why try why not just do it. Make the choice and know that this is the choice your sticking to no matter what because there can be no other alternative. Dont give yourself away out and relapse.
Anyways trying is a step closer to doing it. Its interesting the excuses ppl come up with for the addictions they have. like the one i just read....We are only human? What the hell is that supposed to mean really ???? From what im gathering there is no real intelligence other then yes you can read and absorb information but alot of ppl cannot make the right choices for themselves without looking around at what everyone else is doing and following like a bunch of sheep with no real individuality, When someone in "Society" does try and have their own individuality your looked at like " WTF is your problem weirdo" lol .....your not accepted because its not what everyone else is doing....Anyone care to elaborate?
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 6/4/2008 6:33:21 AM | | Anyone can claim to be intelligent, and there are those that will defend the intelligence of others even when it's unfounded (Kirk, churchill FAILED his college entrance exams TWICE -- he was not an intellectual....) Knowing that something might be bad for you but doing it anyway is part of our ability to choose -- we are not bound by survival instincts. Sometimes the pleasure of doing something outweighs it's physical "price." An addict can be intelligent yet totally succumb to something detrimental to their body -- that speaks more of their wisdom than intellect. | |
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