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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/7/2008 11:54:10 PM | Wired magazine now has an excellent monthly article. It's just one page, but it gives a concise breakdown of the chemicals in commonly used products. My favourite one so far has been the Powerbar.
Drugs and alcohol (especially if used a lot) are obviously self-destructive, but as others have pointed out, many of the day-t0-day things we use are destructive too. I think intelligent people will minimize risk, though there are intelligent people who choose not to act intelligently. Nobody is perfect.
One thing I would love to see is people cooking real food again. Stuff made with real groceries and ingredients.
A bag of chips may be convenient, but how many of us use fruit or vegetables as fast food? | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/8/2008 1:03:32 AM | Intelligent people can become addicted just as easily as anyone.
If someone doesn't smoke they either are ignorant of how insanely addictive nicotine is (non-smoker), or they once were, experienced it firsthand, and now are constantly reminded (ex-smoker). A non-smoker can claim to know nicotine is addictive, but only through theory. In practice they'll get the full picture and are bound to have some compassion, and not be so free to toss insults.
My roommate to this day talks about his occasional urges for nicotine. He knows firsthand that when you smoke a cigarette, you'll never be a non-smoker again. The best you can hope for is to try and stay an ex-smoker. Thankfully the government where I live is going to great lengths to convey as best as possible how addictive the drug is to minors, so that they'll never experience it firsthand.
Nicotine is taken into the brain so readily because it's chemical properties allow the brain to make incredible use of it. It increases memory functions, aids in brain repair, preserves brain functions under stress, as well as more and more new found discoveries of it's effects.
The habit of smoking is essentially where the mind has judged that nicotine's benefits far outweigh it's chronic harm to the body. The mental and physical addiction to nicotine isn't an arbitrary decision based on stupidity. It's an argument where the chemically enhanced brain outweighs and wins out over the body's long term health. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/10/2008 12:45:40 AM | | Phoebus2k9- As for being smart and or highly intellgent and it occuring to the user that what they are doing to them selves is killing them yes some do while others are in denial about it. Even then some are using the drugs etc to escape what is or has caused them some type of mental harm. So the answer to your question is yes.. they are still smart just not able to help themselves stop. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/10/2008 1:17:08 AM | just a short note here....where i live, they have just recently, "covered-over" the tobacco section...with a grey or white facing/ ...in hopes, / or deterring the younger generation ,/
Yeah that caught me by surprise, but it is a good decision.
My only gripe is commercials geared towards solely pointing out the physical harm smoking causes. Do they honestly think people smoke because they think it's not unhealthy?
The physical harm is such a long term effect and is proven to be healed quite quickly, people aren't going to be properly dissuaded from trying it if that's the only message being portrayed.
"One cigarette won't hurt me! Oh, I want to quit, but being plagued by this feeling of hunger for nicotine is making my everyday life miserable. One little cigarette won't hurt!"
The media have to focus on the highly addictive nature of nicotine to drive the point home. They are not attacking the real danger, in my opinion. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/22/2008 10:02:56 PM | | Just because someone is intelligent doesn't mean that they can't become blinded by the obvious, also some individuals are smart in some areas while others areas are still alittle shady for example you can be a math wizard and not be able to read a word not trying to imply that when someone drinks or does drugs that they don't know what they are doing to there body it doesn't take a genius to know that but drinking and drugs become an addiction, and addiction doesn't just hit certian individuals everyone is a victim to substances, it is not so much to do with being smart it is your choice to take that drink or to smoke that pipe everyone knows what could happen if they do it, so people can still be very intelligent human beings and do things that can damage there body it's not whether they are smart enough to know better but do they care most drinkers and drug addicts choose to do it to numb some sort of pain not because they are stupid and yes then there is "well if they are so smart then they would know that there are better ways to heal there pain" true but once again genuises are not perfect,no ones perfect so after all my rambling yes you can still claim to be intelligent if you do things to damage your body. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/22/2008 10:48:26 PM | If you are eating and breathing you are doing damage to your body, so how smart are we all for still eating and breathing?  People aren't stupid just because they don't see things your way. 
I hope no one is going to a restaurant and breathing the air or standing by a fireplace or breathing anywhere near traffic or have radon in their homes, because smoking isn't the only way to kill yourself faster. Please don't eat the cancer-causing food of the week and don't drink the water or use that shampoo or apparently eat any garlic! Run for your lives, the sky is falling!!! | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/23/2008 2:19:55 AM | Maybe it's the supremely intelligent people who need to be/ get/ stay high just to get a mental break from what often appears to be an insane world hell bent on destroying itself through out-of-control greed.
It seems that most people -- so the average intelligence -- are attempting to live healthier lives. We are trying to get more activity into our lives, eat healthy (stay away from fast foods) and realize that we don't need to be falling down drunk or high to have a good time.
I'm an ex smoker and know that anyone who claims to be trying to quit is probably going through hell. I truly do believe that is is the toughest drug habit you will ever kick. I had been off those coffin nails for 3 years when I was at a low point, watching tv late at night & saw a scene where someone was enjoying a cigarette. I lost all sanity & went searching for a convenience store thinking I could just have one I am at year 2 of my present non-smoking state & had to get there by convincing my pea-brain or brainwashing myself. Every time had a cigarette, I focused on the all downsides of how I felt, smelled, looked and how I had to rest after running up a flight of stairs. I stopped doing a thing that was damaging my body and feel better. I certainly didn't get any smarter nor do I believe that my choice to quit came from smarts.
To the post about not living forever: Well, that's a given. What to consider is quality of life. If I can make my own or that of others better through my choices, I will do my best to make healthy choices. Quality of life includes sometimes making unhealthy, fun choices. Those fun things tend to be subjective choices. I love way too loud music & have suffered hearing loss. Now I have to crank it even louder. | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 6/23/2008 7:27:55 AM |
if you have ever seen an original manuscript of Churchill, you will have found he was an awful speller and the handwritten pages are a mess of corrections.
Wittgenstein could not spell either, nevertheless, he was probably the second most important thinker of the last 200 years. Many very brilliant people have apalling spelling. There is no myth concerning Churchill's writing ability. He won the nobel prize for literature. No one else but he penned the history of the English speaking peoples. He was a wonderful orator...he wrote his own speeches...why wouldn't he have been a great man of letters? Beethoven's manuscripts were a maze of corrections and revisions, it didn't make the symphonies any less impressive. Churchill was a brilliant, brilliant man, gifted in many different disciplines, the fact that his spelling constantly needed to be emended doesn't really detract from what he committed to print does it? | |
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| Can you claim to be intelligent if you do things that damage your body?
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:06:26 AM | | Your body is only part of a life that is terminal. The trade-offs between fighting off the end, enjoing what life we have, and contributing the well being others and the environment are personal choices based on our values. Obsession over one's own body could be labeled as selfish, vain and non-productive. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/24/2008 5:14:31 PM | | Yes, you can claim to be intelligent even though you do things that damage your body. There are a good may intelligent people who do not like themselves. There is no direct relationship between intelligence and will power. You do not need to be stupid to act stupidly. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/26/2008 12:42:23 AM | Choice has very little to do with it. Especially with addicts and the manic depressive individuals.
To claim to be intelligent takes a lot of confidence and****ness. (LOL!) Nevertheless, I dont claim to be intelligent, nor will I ever. For intellectual conversation I try to hold my own,,, in the most taxing way! LOL!
But I can claim a few highly intellectual friends that Im honored and also sad to know and claim. One is a psychology major, writer and alcoholic. He can diagnose any individual he has a long conversation with,,, quote Hemmingway and James Joyce, yet drinks himself to oblivion. A very intelligent man, a very stupid friend. He has been told a 1000's times that he is killing himself, but denial is his fortress. He tried so many times to stop and quit with help... its unfortunate that it is a short comming.
,,yet I love to hear him speak when theres a crowd that's willing to listen. An intelligent man that will not live a long life. And I hate to be there when it happens.
To each their own hell I guess.
I have a manic depressive friend that can charm the pants off any man, yet she chain smokes religiously. She has a masters degree in Library science (I hope I have that right!) She is involved in literature and has traveled overbroad and over seas. She has is also a motiviting speaker at certain for a few fortune 500 companies,,,yet addicted to smoking like there is no tomorrow.
Intelligence is not the question? The question is awareness and are these two intelligent people aware,,,I dont know. My alcoholic friend tried, but not long enough to wait for any results. My smoker friend,, whom I love to be with, will not listen about the harm she is doing to her body. Yet she can educate me about the world and its problems and how to try to solve them.
Go figure, with these intellects?
Go figure. | |
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| LEAVE UM ALONE GUYS!
Posted: 6/26/2008 7:12:15 AM | hey lets not forget th some poor souls are only follow their birth defects passed to them from their parents. we all know most addiction is hereditory. barring accidents and murder its the very same genes that eventually kills us all, one way or another.
to quote anybody as stupid or unitelligent is a tad judgemental dont you think?
each to their own.. hey i notice th most folk like to sunbathe in very harmful sun rays. some have a sweet tooth. excess sugar is harmfull too. what about the social cost i hear you say. so dont they pay taxes or helath insurance.
i think most if not all of us intelligent/not so intelligent ppl have a harmful to health addiction of one kind or another
oh by the way i dont not indulge in smoking or exssesive acohol abuse. or judging folk either!! LIVE AND LET BE!!! | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/26/2008 7:22:12 AM | | How does one validly claim to be intelligent or not? Implied claims of intelligence may be disguised by language of humility. Intelligence is the ability to learn which requires an open mind and reasoning, not prior knowledge or education. If someone does not listen to well-reasoned advice, are they truly intelligent? Then again, is their reasoning in control or is it biochemical addictions from internal or external sources? If you feel someone is intelligent yet self abusive, confronting them with something they probably already know is a dead end. Can one claim, through implication, to be intelligent if they keep trying something that doesn't work? Trying to teach a pig to sing wastes time and annoys the pig. | |
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| CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE INTELLIGENT IF YOU DO THINGS THAT DAMAGE YOUR BODY
Posted: 6/29/2008 9:44:10 AM | | People can be completely self-aware of the repercussions of any action, and still decide that it is worth it to them. It's not about intelligence, it's about value systems, life philosophies, and will to live. Not everyone is trying to extend their elderly life at the cost of enjoying the earlier years. People have different values and different people want to spend their time worrying about different things. These are philosophical differences between people, and I think it's actually short-sighted, closed minded, and less intelligent to not acknowledge these differences, and just try to blanket it with the idea that they must be stupid. I don't personally smoke or use drugs, but I like to think one of the reasons I consider myself intelligent is that I'm open to various viewpoints and new ideas, even if they aren't the same as my viewpoint. I respect that in others too. If someone is a "health freak" constantly worrying about what is good for your body, I don't connect that trait to intelligence in any way. But open-mindedness is a big part of intelligence to me. | |
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