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 dirtydeeds101
Joined: 3/12/2008
Msg: 176
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Oh golly OP I certainly feel for you. My boys are a yr and a half apart..and they had their fair share of experimenting with drugs. Damn near drove me nuts.
Got so bad that I was tracking them down and dragging them out of places where I knew they would be smoking dope..nights of holding their heads over the toilet while they barfed up a kidney..OMG..it will drive you crazy.
I suggest trying counselling..not only for your son but for yourself as well..cuz you will need it to keep your sanity. Open up with your son too..let me know how you feel.
Not a gaurantee but you will need to talk with someone you trust.
He'll come back to you hun..just keep an eye on his health that he isn't getting sick and run down....................hope that helps....................................................:
 cooloolagirl
Joined: 7/4/2008
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Posted: 7/14/2008 8:49:11 PM
I feel for you Karen. It's a trying time. At 15 my son was very angry/volatile/moody/distanced from me emotionally. There was a barrier between us, we had been so close before and it broke my heart. He also said things like he hated his sister, wished she were never born. Where was the love?
I spoke with counsellors and read alot of parenting books. He tried pot on a couple of occassions and he snuck out and drank booze at parties, and he'd get into fights. In his life he'd only ever seen his father a handful of times and I'm certain that was where his anger was coming from.
I kept loving him. I told him I loved him. I told him I was really disappointed in what he was doing and that I was frightenned for him, I talked to him about the consequences of his behaviour like how many young men end up in jail for murder 'cause they got drunk and punched a guy and that one punch can kill and how devastated I would be if that happenned. I don't know how much of what I said he took in. But I still kept loving him and told him no matter what he would always be welcome in my home. He knew my love was without strings.
Then at about 17 he calmed down, he got involved in sport with some mates (sorry I'm aussie translate -friends), he's on the health kick now and not drinking, not angry either, and he's got a girl. He's growing up. He's affectionate again and smiling.
And he's got a great relationship with his little sis too. The love is back.
So what I'm saying is have hope, if your relationship with your son before this time was strong then keep loving him, communicating your fears and ambitions for him, be honest and open, let him know you're there, get him outdoors as much as possible using his energy in healthy ways if you can and encourage any of the good things he's involved in. As a previous poster said the stats show that 75% of teens have smoked weed, and 2% of the population is into hard drugs.
And don't forget to look after yourself too, I went through some bad stress with my son, so take it easy, do something nice for yourself so that you're in top form.
 sensualcouple
Joined: 7/4/2008
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Posted: 7/14/2008 9:06:50 PM
My heart aches for you and your anguish.Though my kids haveis not put me in these circumstances I have put my own parents through this pain.Im so very sorry for what you going through and I have to tell you that lying is what an addict does best.Do not beleive a word e says and stay on his ass at all times.If he wants to leave let him but keep your rules in place and make him pay what consequences he has to. Do not bail him out do not allow disrespectful behavior. I do not beleive there is anything you can do to stop him though i dont discourage you from trying.Make ssure he knows you love him and support him but have boundries that cannot be crossed.There is no body that could stop me from my behavior.Im sorry to say i had to hit bottom to wake up!I wish you well my friend and Al anon is hugely helpflul!
praying for you
 dirtydeeds101
Joined: 3/12/2008
Msg: 179
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Posted: 7/16/2008 3:14:47 PM
JMO but I think its the kids or adults that can incorporate drugs or alcohol into their lives while still maintaining a job or going to school that are more at risk for becoming a true addict. They are the ones that appear to be doing everything they are suppose to be doing without anyone in their lives suspecting there might be a problem. they are able to bring drugs or alcohol into their lives and see it as a 'norm' because there have been no disruptions in their everyday living..smoke a few dubies here and there during the day..do a line..have a drink or two..and continue on thru the day.
The people that change dramatically are more likely at some point reach a point where they see that they are not themselves anymore and wish to change the behaviour.
For me the ages between 14 and 18 are pretty much a blurr. I didn't accomplish anything during that time because I was either too stoned or drunk. My behaviours changed, views changed, and what I thought about how people felt didn't phase me at all. But there was never a 'need' to get drunk or high..it was recreational..everyone I knew was doing it so why the hell not.(thats how I felt at that time)
My boys both went thru the same thing and it was an acceptance of peers thing..not true addiction. Eventually they snapped out of it and said"Uh..I ain't gettin no-where real fast" and came back to where they started.
Sounds like it is more of an acceptance of peers thing for your son too OP...not much you can really do until he feels the need to change. Or send him to boot-camp..which crossed my mind a few times with my boys......................Prayin' for you and your boy.
 guitarguy10
Joined: 7/8/2008
Msg: 180
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Posted: 7/16/2008 5:10:31 PM
My parents were heavy drug users when I was growing up and what I learned from them is that you can't change people. You can't force him to do anything, so my advice would be to let him do his thing, but don't help him out any. Don't give him any money or anything like that.

If he's only 15, just sit and try to talk to him. If he doesn't listen, then try again. If he's disrespectful, is there not a father figure there that can set him straight?
 serenityCW
Joined: 1/21/2006
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Posted: 7/16/2008 5:34:39 PM
the later data on "scared straight" has proven that the approach did very little long term. every area is different in the array of resources and you need to get educated on the very different approaches. too many fragmented approaches, to me, are often disruptive. this is a very long term process. some kids try it because of others and some kids are self medicating for post trauma and/or depression. "you" need to get to al anon to get yourself stable and strong as to what you will do. it is international and often has groups devoted to parental concerns OR, if not, just announce that you need to speak to other parents. then ask for the various "opinions" after the meeting and begin to form your own opinion about what to look for and what to do and where to go. you may find help at one meeting, but not at another. it takes persistance.

one cannot offer opinions in the meeting, only share their personal stories. a lot of the work often gets done in "the diner" or for coffee afterwards. try to steer individuals from telling you what to do and find out what happened with them and their teens, unless they have some objective criteria for you to apply to assess your situation. only you can decide what to do.

one of my kids went straight to the streets when she was 18 and had spent many months in various institutions. when i first got her as already a teen, my hands were tied by foster care and by the time the adoption went through several years later, much of the damage was done with ridiculous approaches. i spent more time fighting foster care than i did taking care of my kids, although in their behalf.

today, however, she is not only off crystal meth, but she has done the emotional /spiritual work of many who are in their 40's--and still growing. she, however, is a very exceptional and very bright child. before she got well, i went to al anon with the heaviest heart i ever had in my entire life--and i've had an interesting life! i had been there for my own parents and when with my first husband a very long time ago, but this was the worst--because it is hard to "detach" from a child.

you must keep your rules with clearly presented rewards and consequences, but challenge your own thinking and flexibility by growing in knowing other opinions and different approaches. i closed circles around my kids by working with teachers, physicians, police and neighbors as a "force". they could never figure out, how everyone knew "the story" and had a hard time bs'ing their mom! once your opinions are formed, you need to be consistent. also, you must tell and show him that you love him, not buy his love, but explain when decisions and boundaries appear to be "mean" --that this is what tough love is about and it is for the longer term successes.

feel free to email if you need more help. as to the concept of "higher power" in 12 step. it is what you want it to be, as long as it's not you. often people, especially kids, just identify "higher power" as the larger support group. it can be very simple and one need not start dealing with various religions, whether there is a G-d , etc. if one does not believe in G-d, then the Higher Power can be the big bang theory. whatever. as long as one's ego does not pull him/her down via their own faulty thinking and denial. often people go to different meetings,each with their own personalities , to find the ones that work better for them than others.

the most important thing is that this is for you. if you fall apart, you cannot help the child.
 ladylucksmiles
Joined: 6/25/2008
Msg: 182
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Posted: 7/16/2008 5:43:50 PM
my friend,
take it from an old hat at this, I ignored the signs, and my children have paid dearly for it. My youngest, who is now 24, pregnant, on methadone and been and IV drug user for 2 years and been an addict since 13. I was clueless. She was an A student. A moody child, but ................. I was her friend.. She needed a hard ass parent. not a friend. Her friends loved me. They all wanted to hang at my house. Why? I was clueless, that's why... Be tough!!
 jstsandy
Joined: 3/30/2008
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Posted: 7/16/2008 5:48:18 PM
I agree with sanderick. Someone told me that my child was doing drugs, when he was up all night, I finally went and bought, not one, not two, but a multiple pack of drug testing kits. He went into the bathroom the next morning and I banged on the door and handed him the cup and told him to give me a sample, or go to a facility NOW. He filled it, and he was clean, but since then, I have caught him.

I didn't need to tell him it was illegal, he knew it. I told him that doing drugs was a reason for me to kick him out (he's 21, not 15). No excuses. It's my house, and I just spent last year fighting cancer, I wasn't going to put up with him doing drugs. He has been clean since, but I still test him every once in a while, just to be sure.

If he was 15, I would test him, and you can't warn him or threaten him ahead of time, you just have to do it...if he is dirty, take him somewhere if you don't have the knowledge to handle it alone. A lot of police departments have a "scared straight" program, where they take kids "on the fence", and show them what life is like on the other side of that fence...I've heard that works.

Also, if you do have any vices, he is right, clean up YOUR act, or you can't teach morals to your children. Do something now! Don't lose your child to drugs. I lost a sister to drugs...it's heartbreaking, and you will never forgive yourself if you don't take care of it now. Many say heroin is bad, I think Meth is worse...it takes them slowly and eats them alive.
 dobledinc
Joined: 7/14/2006
Msg: 184
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Posted: 7/16/2008 6:01:30 PM
Don't get scared. Make sure you find out what kind of drugs he is doing.
There is a big different betweed hard drugs and the recreational ones. So get that straight first. After that just talk to him and let him know that you used to do dope before. Even if you haven't even done it once. Make sure he understand you've been there and done that.
That way he feels more confident with you and he is gonna be able to share his thoughts with you. It's hard to open up with your parents only because you don't know how they are gonna react. Or what are they going to do about it. So make sure your son has confidence with you and that he is talkative at the same time. I don't have kids myself but I was a pain in the ass to my mom when I was your son's age. I was bad. She always used to ask me if I smoke and I would say no even though the whole has smelled like marijuana. But with the time I open up to her and we became more friendly. Oh... one things make sure you don't send him to rehab because that's where kids get lost. You have to want to go to rehab before you actually go. So if you take him and he doesn't really understand why he has to go. Than you're really going to loose him.
I hope this helps...


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 montana1122
Joined: 7/1/2008
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Posted: 7/16/2008 6:03:15 PM
I am speaking from experience, my son is now 33 and has been in the prison system for a year now, and numerous county jails for two years prior to that. He is now in rehab, and on his way to a half-way house. And this behavior started when he was 14. If I had it to do over again I would find a boot camp with a good reputation. Start family counseling immediately, and try and get to the root of his problem. If he has an addictive personality this behavior will only escalate. I wish you luck and I will say a prayer for you and your son.....
 ~vhdc~
Joined: 10/1/2007
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Posted: 7/16/2008 6:07:02 PM
The idea someone mentioned of having him read a book made me laugh. Your son needs to find something that appeals to him more than the drugs and the people who take them. Change his environment and the people in his life. This could quite possibly mean sending him away, but worth a shot. Whether it be rehab, a friend, or family surround him with those he would like to emulate i.e., those whom he would find cool who are not involved in drugs. The ball is in his court, however it does not hurt to offer up some really appealing bait.

I offered my son life experiences, travel and interesting people from all walks of life. It worked.
 serenityCW
Joined: 1/21/2006
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Posted: 7/17/2008 12:01:35 AM
although i realize that some people have done "recreational drugs" just like i have wine with dinner when fine dining, it is a myth that an addictive person will be fine as long as not using "hard" drugs. it's the same as the AA joke that they ONLY drank beer. the brain is forming in the teen years and the research says that if you can hold them back to after college, if addictive, they will continue, but at least they have some brains to help them get clean and sober.

i heard an al anon story very recently by a double winner ( in AA and Al Anon) about how his father started out only doing recreational drugs--pot, mushrooms, then lsd. all the while he and his friends leaving it around for his son to take, blowing smoke in his face because it was cute. later the dad started pushing even harder drugs.

now, years later, he cannot apologize to his son--who is in his late 30's and just beginning to find his "voice". why? because he can remember none of it. so, the son inherits the sins of his father. it takes a mature and responsible person to be able to assess that they cannot use drugs. i know only a handful of those people who tried and stopped immediately. i know way more people whose lives and the lives of their kids were seriously affected.

then of course, there are the recreational and social drinkers and illegal drug users. i say, it's best to wait for the brain to be fully developed and the hormones stablizized before one can make that self assessment. in the meanwhile the kid can learn to be a kid and better his/her own communication skills and life observations. cannot do that when you are totally "out of it".
 kay_el
Joined: 12/19/2007
Msg: 188
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Posted: 7/17/2008 12:29:42 AM
I noticed you are in Canada I’m in Alberta so my information might be little different but there s a Canada wide number you can call 211 (like 411, 911 or 611), they can help give you the number to locate supports in your area, It sounds like you need some right now. And personally I know this isn’t very reassuring but trust If you have had a good relationship over the years he will come back but it might be a rocky road, so arm yourself with supports supports, supports, (weather professional or personal) they will help you have the strength to help him threw this.
 badfreakinmedicine
Joined: 11/21/2005
Msg: 189
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Posted: 7/17/2008 2:34:30 AM
OK, I finally finished reading this thread, and I'm not sure where to even begin. The level of misinformation and STUPIDITY in this thread is appalling and shocking. I'm not sure where to even begin!

I guess I might start off with a description of myself: who I am, and what I'm about. I'm 24 years old, honourably discharged from the Air Force after six years of service. I own and operate my own business designing and building electronics for the automotive aftermarket. I have my own shop where I tinker around with various hot rods owned by myself and others. I have great credit and pay my bills on time. You can see that I have a fair grasp of the English language, and am not stupid by any means. By most metrics I guess you could say I'm a fairly successful guy. Anyone who knows me will attest to how intelligent and well rounded I am--definitely not a "loser" in any sense of the word.

I also smoke marijuana on a fairly regular basis. I smoked a few times when I was a teen but only relatively recently (after leaving the Air Force) did I begin smoking regularly. I drink occasionally (in great moderation) and do not use tobacco in any form.

So why would a successful, intelligent man such as myself decide to begin smoking marijuana?

Because MARIJUANA IS FUN AND HARMLESS.

I can't believe some of the retarded shit I have read on this thread about marijuana. Seriously. This is the year 2008, people; do you not know how to use Google? Quit listening to propaganda and spend five minutes to educate yourself. It's a relatively harmless drug, FAR less dangerous or harmful than nicotine or alcohol. There is NO physical addiction. Of course, just like ANY other substance or activity, it is possible to develop a psychological addiction. But as long as it's used responsibly in moderation, it is completely safe and is not harmful to the brain or body.

But it's a gateway drug, right? WRONG. This is totally false and has been disproven in countless studies.

But it's a form of escapism, right? Sure, there are some people who smoke marijuana to escape from life's problems, just like there are some people who play video games, etc to escape from their problems. Should World of Warcraft (or other games) be banned just because some irresponsible people spend 16 hours a day playing it as a form of escapism? Of course not.

But it's illegal! Yes, sadly, it is. It is well known that marijuana was made illegal solely as a means of discrimination against blacks and Mexicans, not for medical reasons. In fact, the consensus in the medical community was (and is) that marijuana is practically harmless and in fact has great medicinal use. Cancer patients in particular smoke marijuana because it relieves their pain and restores their appetite with NO negative side effects. By all rights, marijuana should be legal. If you want to raise your child to obey the law no matter what, then I can respect your position, though I disagree.

No, I'm not a parent, but I have parents. I have a wonderful mother and an also-ran father. I have seen both the good and the bad sides of parenting. Good parents don't strip their child's room of everything but concrete and mattress. Good parents don't move their kids to different schools, rip them apart from their friends, restrict their activities, or kick them out on the streets over a ****ing PLANT. Good parents don't spy on their kids, force them to take drug tests, or worse yet, call the POLICE on them and put them in rehab/jail over a ****ing PLANT! What kind of message do you think these activities send to your child? By doing this you are telling your child that you don't trust him and you don't love him. You are making your child your enemy and depriving him of all opportunities to be independent and make decisions for himself. How exactly is this going to improve anything?

Good parents trust their children and communicate with them. Good parents do not lie to their children. If you lie to me often enough, I will eventually learn to ignore anything you have to say. Why would you assume that children are somehow different? When they hear the whole "OMFG DRUGS ARE BAD!!!11" bullshit enough times they will eventually learn to ignore it.

Kids are smart and they will see straight through bullshit. If you want your child to respect you and listen to your advice then you will always tell them the truth and don't bullshit them! Quit blindly passing along government propaganda about drugs and do some research for yourself. Instead of stubbornly insisting that all drugs are bad, tell him WHICH drugs are bad, and specifically WHY they are bad.

If you don't want your child to use drugs, tell him this in a polite and respectful manner. But keep in mind that a 15 year old child has his own will. He is a young ADULT. He is going to do what he wants to do when he's out amongst his friends away from you. If you have not already raised him properly, then it's too late now. If you did then you can sleep soundly at night knowing that while he may make some mistakes, he will learn from them and do the right thing in the end. Let him know that you trust him to make the right decision. I guarantee that if you make it known to your child that you trust and respect him, he will be much more respectful of you and your wishes.

Now if your child is trying certain harder drugs, such as heroin, crack, or meth, then you have really screwed up and it is probably time to take more drastic action. But marijuana? NOT a big deal. Just let him know what the boundaries are, and TRUST him!

Now if you'll excuse me, it's late and I'm tired.
 spitfire6844
Joined: 6/30/2007
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Posted: 7/17/2008 11:05:02 AM
Silverswan (#140):

That was one of the most ignorant replies to any topic I've ever read on this site. Your reply was ALL WRONG. Your exhortation to avoid calling the police under any circumstances is just foolish. Do you know how many addicts end up stealing from loved ones and even threatening them to support their habit? MANY addicts become criminals to support their habits. Sometimes, calling the authorities and having the minor arrested is what will save a life and the lives or property of their families/acquaintances.

In case some of the drug apologists on here don't realize it yet, illicit drug use is against the law. Refusing to notify the cops when that is the only option amounts to aiding and abetting illegal behavior. Most developed countries have structured laws around rehabilitation for users anyway, not punishment. Strict punishment is only for dealers these days. Working with the system can be the best way to make solid attempts at getting a user into rehab. Wake up.

Silverswan said:



heck, i do not see any distinction between alcohol and drugs, but some people do...


Alcohol is a legal drug; it's cheaper; and it is rarely mixed or cut with toxic substances. The same cannot be said for most illegal drugs. Get a clue. Illegal drugs are more risky for a number of reasons.

Silverswan:



YOU must become educated, get support and find out how NOT to feed into the illness of drug/alcohol abuse.....


Protecting a user from arrest and prosecution when that user is a danger to himself and others amounts to "feeding into the illness of drug/alcohol abuse". Do you need someone to get killed in a drug-related incident before you do what's necessary? Or maybe you would just hide the body and not call the authorities even then......

Silverswan:



you as a parent have to be the one in control now, and it has to be with LOVE...not the cold cruel arm of the law, not now. not yet. That is the last resort you turn to when nothing else works.


Control means not enabling. No one would hold back on getting the authorities involved if an intruder broke into your house and starting stealing stuff or trashing the place. Often with users, they become like intruders while on drugs. It would be enabling to let them do things, without consequences, that you wouldn't let an intruder do. "Not now, not yet" is often a rationalization for not doing what needs to be done. There is a very thin line separating "not yet" from "too late" when it comes to dealing with drug use. Parents know their children. When parents start getting the sense that they should call the cops, they are probably right. Waiting around will be a source of regret.

There are some people who are flat-out retards on this issue, possibly due to their own past drug-use. You need to think before you post. If a parent is creating a thread to ask for advice on here concerning their kids, then it's a major issue for them---not just some recreational pot use. Minimizing the situation while offering "advice" is pointless. If some posters can't be objective in offering advice, then they shouldn't offer any.
 VirgoGrl
Joined: 2/28/2008
Msg: 191
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Posted: 7/17/2008 11:13:58 AM
In your son's high school there is a highly qualified guidance counsellor. Set up an interview on your own to go and talk to this person and ask for advice....that is his/her job and they are well qualified to do it (they don't have 2 university degrees for nothing!) Most likely this person will refer you to support groups/social workers/or even a program of some sort your son has to take part in...have you ever heard of the program Tough Love? It isn't pleasant for either of you - its a my way or the highway kid approach for a parent and for most families from the research I have done it is incredible....you need to act now or it will not fix itself. This isn't a stage - the drugs kids experiment with now are way stronger than what we got access to as teenagers. Don't nag him, it won't help....simply get help and follow the advice you are given...good luck
 sihtdaeruoynac
Joined: 6/16/2008
Msg: 192
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Posted: 7/17/2008 11:16:39 AM
Send your son to boot camp if that won't change him nothing will. Here is a site more about it:


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/554121/should_you_send_your_teenage_child.html
 badfreakinmedicine
Joined: 11/21/2005
Msg: 193
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Posted: 7/17/2008 11:19:20 AM

If some posters can't be objective in offering advice, then they shouldn't offer any.


And just what was so objective about your reply, ***hole? I didn't see any objectivity at all, but rather just another irrational anti-drug rant.


Your exhortation to avoid calling the police under any circumstances is just foolish. Do you know how many addicts end up stealing from loved ones and even threatening them to support their habit?


Do you know how many marijuana "addicts" there are out there? Zero. Zip. None. Do you even know what addiction IS? Load up Google and educate yourself. An addict is someone who is physically dependent on a drug. It is therefore not possible to be addicted to marijuana, LSD, psilocybin, MDMA (Ecstasy), or a number of other popular recreational drugs. Yet it IS possible and common to be addicted to alcohol or cigarettes, as I am sure you are aware.


Alcohol is a legal drug; it's cheaper; and it is rarely mixed or cut with toxic substances. The same cannot be said for most illegal drugs. Get a clue.


You're the one who needs a clue. It's pretty uncommon for drugs to be mixed with dangerous substances, especially in the case of marijuana.


Parents know their children. When parents start getting the sense that they should call the cops, they are probably right.


If a parent calls the cops on his or her child, then what has happened here is the parent has FAILED to do his/her job. If you need to call in a bunch of uniformed, jack-booted thugs to lock up your child, then you have failed as a parent.
 littledoesfawn
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Posted: 7/17/2008 11:23:17 AM

"I have thought of that...... I don't want to be that hysterical parent, dont want to be a hypocrite because I tried it at his age too, I grew up and stopped doing it and I want to believe that he is just experimenting like I did as a kid."


I'm sorry, but to me this doesn't sound to worried. It sounds like you already have your mind made up that he's only experimenting and it is no big deal. I would say other wise, but it is your kid and you need to tell him what is going to happen if he continues and stick with it.
 badfreakinmedicine
Joined: 11/21/2005
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Posted: 7/17/2008 11:27:36 AM

the drugs kids experiment with now are way stronger than what we got access to as teenagers.


And just what drugs are you referring to, exactly? Marijuana? Available in the 60s. LSD? Available in the 60s, in WAY stronger form than is typically available now. MDMA (Ecstasy)? Available in the 60s. Shrooms? 60s. Cocaine? Heroin? Even amphetamines? Yeah, all of that has been used for a LONG time.

Back to the other poster:


Alcohol is a legal drug; it's cheaper; and it is rarely mixed or cut with toxic substances.


I forgot to mention: there is no need to mix alcohol with toxic substances, because it is a toxic substance itself! Alcohol destroys a hell of a lot more lives than marijuana ever thought about, even though marijuana is the one that's illegal. What about tobacco? Millions of people with rotting lungs and holes cut in their throats wish they'd never started, but they can't quit. Marijuana does not have the same drawbacks.
 MY OH MY
Joined: 10/11/2007
Msg: 196
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Posted: 7/17/2008 11:34:39 AM
Alcohol is illegal for anyone under 21 to consume. The thought being that those over 21 are responsible enough to drink it without drinking it in an abusive manner. I have met some people that drink responsibly, some that don't, some that have problems, some that I wonder if they have alocohol problems, and everything in between. It is just easier for people to drink than to say no. I have seen men make fun of you for not drinking, "can't handle it." Geez, like they are back in grade school. I double dog dare you

Anyone under 21 that lives with a parent should hopefully get help they need to learn the real side of addiction and the problems it can cause. With luck your child doesn't experiment, but if they do, good luck in getting them the help they need to get away from drugs/alcohol. It isn't easy for an adult, parent, or child.
 coltongrundy
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My son is on drugs.......
Posted: 7/17/2008 11:52:48 AM
i want you to really pay attention to what im going to say, it is very important. i am an 18 year old man who has to go back to school just to get his grade 12, wich i probably wont end up doing. i started doing drugs around grade 7. at first, i just started smoking pot, it was something that bolth of my brothers do, and also something my dad talked about doing when he was a teenager. im not going to lie, pot is a wonderfull thing, it can help alot of people with a variaty of ailments, and its also a great stress releiver. i still smoke pot to this day, and will continue to do it for many years to come. this all changed around grade 10. in grade 10,i started to make freinds in highschool, and with new freinds come new opportunities. i started doing ecstacy every once in a while, then i got bored with that after i almost overdosed on it, so i switched to hallucinagens. now any teenager can tell you what mushrooms are, because most of them have done them, but i wasnt just stopping there. i started to take acid, and that ****s with your brain. then i moved onto doing a few lines of cocaine every once in while, then to cookin it up into crack rocks, now this is where i was begining to become afraid. when you start smoking crack, everything else seem like it doesnt matter, and that can cause alot of problems.



my best advice that i can give you is to do what you think is right. i had parents that told me to never do drugs, and threatened me with rehab and everything else they could think of. but if your child is only smoking pot, then i wouldnt even worry about it, just because almost everyone does it at one point or another, but if he starts dropping weight and picking up weird habbits an twitches, get him tested, in fact, let him email me and i can tell him about almost overdosing in someones house that youve never met before, and listening to them talking about throwing you in there back alley so you dont die in there kitchen. you can send me a message if you want my email adress.
 spitfire6844
Joined: 6/30/2007
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My son is on drugs.......
Posted: 7/17/2008 12:42:31 PM
Shiftless:

You're acting like a dumb son of a gun. If you've ever had a relative or friend deal with drug addiction, then you would know how serious it is. This thread wasn't started by a parent because her child was smoking an occasional joint. The parents on here who have concerns are dealing with full-blown addicts who happen to be their children. It's a rough time for everyone involved.

Don't tell me to Google anything. You go Google all the information you need to in order to start making sense, because you sure as hell aren't making any right now. Better yet, find one of your own relatives who is struggling with addiction and hang around them for awhile. Get some firsthand experience, and then come talk to me. Punk.
 dirtydeeds101
Joined: 3/12/2008
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Posted: 7/17/2008 2:33:32 PM
shiftless: don't underestimate the power of caffeine either. The world of medicine needs to come up with a patch for both caffeine and nicotine combined.. can't have one without the other right? just my 2 cents.
But in reference to people who smoke cigarettes rotting their lungs and throat: you smoke whacky tabacky..no?..would that not also rot your lungs and throat? If not ..why not? Its Smoke going into lungs and throat nonetheless.
PS: my comment on boot camp was actually a bit of a joke really. Sending a kid out of the home whether to boot-camp, juevenile detention, foster care is more of a fix for the parent not the kid. I have watched parents go to this extreme and the first thing the kid would do when returning home: go get a bottle, buy some pot and make up for lost time!!
This original OPs post is definitely a tough one..just gotta watch their health really..and be supportive with boundaries.
Personally I'd like to hear from the OP: hows it going girl? You've been attacked here and there(not everybody)..you don't need to defend your actions or justify your love for your son to anyone here...just focus on what you need to do to get your son back.
 cide
Joined: 5/12/2008
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Posted: 7/17/2008 3:01:46 PM
I am here to try and help you the best way I can.

When I was 15, I began using Crystal Methamphetamine.

It was both the best and worst choice I made in my life,
It changed alot about me. Who I am, What I like
Some for the better, some for the worst.

I am still battling cravings for it.

I am 22 now, It was a peer-pressure situations.


Some of the memories I experianced while using the drug will never be forgotten, I learned alot - I was always doing things with my brain while on it - Such as reading, or learning new things. I believe for some people with good self control, It can be thought of as a tool rather than a crutch.


Don't be too hard on the boy,
But then again you never said what he is doing - If its weed, I wouldnt be so concerned, But then again - I started doing weed when I was 15 and it led to Crystal Meth.


Cheers,
Message me if you want. I'll change my profile so everyone can message me.
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