| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/30/2008 11:11:32 PM | | hey traycy91007' your obviously just winning and just came from a bad experience.first of all not all men are the same and secondly womens theses days are just as bad as men when it comes to that.not all womens but a lot 0f them so.so if your not gonna bring anything new to the table.... | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 4:47:44 AM | | When the women I meet aren't looking to get laid as well, so on a case to case basis. Sexual preferances or drive is a piss poor measuring stick being used to qualify maturity for either gender. Maybe the title needs to read, when do people reach true maturity, when they accept people for who they are and how they are? | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 5:51:56 AM | Re the opost:
Thought more about it, lol, and I think a better criterion is:
When they start using condoms! | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 7:35:33 AM |
...when did you stop trying to fck every women you spent two hours with? I'm guessing at this, but unless a man is from a culture where that isn't allowed, or they are studying to be a monk, they are almost always that way. 2 hours though? Either you are putting out the wrong vibes or you are dating teenagers or very very immature guys. Usually that doesn't happen to me. But when I was in my 20's the guys I dated were that way with me too.
Just remember, you can throw them back into the water. And fish for another one.
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 7:43:33 AM | I really appreciate the sound advice Smileee4u. You're right no more dates at night until I know more, a lot more. The day date really takes "it " out of the equation.
Just a couple remarks: Yes, I jokingly said I USED to be "easy" when I drank. I don't drink anymore and wow... clarity... Now that alcohol is not influencing my actions I'm NOT!
"what a self absorbed little creature" you got that from my profile... You're so intuititve, hahahaaaaa. Not self absorbed at all, it's called be empowered and asking for what you want. I'm definately not the only profile on POF that states that.
It was a joke about the 21 year old...
perspective.
and yes, whinning, I see it.
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 8:03:32 AM | | It is a huge mistake to to give everything to a man you barely know, without him having to invest much in the relationship. Give him a chance to invest. You do not want to be the woman who gives blindly because she wants so much for her attentions to be reciprocated If you chase him with a black nightie... first he'll have sex with you.... and then he'll run. Why would he run? Because he sees that you do not place a high value or respect on yourself. He sees you forever and forever as they type that will sleep with any guy..... quickly! He will be gone, and you will be history. | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 9:00:29 AM | They're wonderful friends and actually would be welcome to spend the night at my house ... because I know they would not be putting the moves on m
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Maybe that's the case. Just be careful how much wine you all drink...... | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 9:09:32 AM | Thanks laughingstock, no thats not it. The book about boys becoming men is called
KING, WARRIOR, MAGICIAN, LOVER. I started to read the first short chapter, but then came online here to see if I could get laid.
Oh OH, I mean: Please don't lump all men together, there are some who respect a woman and aren't "players", badboys, nice guys. I for one would never expect a woman to want to sleep with me after a date. Thats why I always ask what her sister or mom looks like, and does she know how kinky they are.
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Yes, I know you weren't, I was trying to steer away from the other 1285 threads about "why men just want sex". But that does seem to be a hot topic with 3 billion women on Earth. | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 9:21:18 AM | KING, WARRIOR, MAGICIAN, LOVER... Has someone done a ManKind/ New Warrior training?
This is the first mention I have heard of any referrence to its teaching on this site.
I have done some work in this regard as well, and the only difference for women is:
QUEEN, WARRIOR, MAGICIAN, LOVER
I wasn't lumping all men into this group. There was a disclaimer. | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 10:26:14 AM | Of course not ALL men are not "like that". But the Opost and some posters imply that MOST of us are. And most means like 80%?
And please let us not use terms like "invest" in love and rels, using the term "partner" is bad enough!
Boys become men when they learn how to invest in stocks and bonds, not humans or rels. Cling-ons invest in people. lol
Anyway, sheers to all! Smile!
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 11:58:23 AM | When do boys become men??????
Wow. I thought we women realize that MOST - I said MOST - NOT ALL men never do.
Most of the ones I have encountered since being single may be of "majority age" aka legal adults, but they haven't really grown up and never will. Needless to say, I get really tired of dealing with "little boys".
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 12:11:17 PM | | God, I hear you sister. Totally amazes me sometimes. I don't think that they ever really "grow up". Chronologically maybe. The difference between men and women is like we are from Venus and they are from Mars. The key is to accept that. What a man tells you up front is exactly what you are going to get. I don't care if they say that they are kidding........yeah, I believe it when I see it. | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 12:16:46 PM | | Great call (frankalank)...When does a girl become a woman...I see plenty of 40 and 50 year old woman acting like they are at a high school prom...Give me a break... | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 12:27:57 PM | | Answer to your guestion, why are you taking these boys that are not men home, boys will always be boys and girls will always be girls. looks like you are coming on too strong and giving the wrong impression, by inviting these boys home... | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 12:33:16 PM |
I see plenty of 40 and 50 year old woman acting like they are at a high school prom
I see plenty of them acting like spoiled 4 year old children.
Some men (and women) never grow up. Life is full of middle-aged adolescents who constantly demand that they be given "their" way or else!
I think you can consider yourself a man when you fulfill your obligations and responsibilities, and no longer consider women sex toys, but rather human beings who can contribute to your life in a positive fashion in return for the same. I'm still waiting for that to happen, but I'm not holding my breath.
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 12:34:25 PM |
LMAO ... I only know two or three men who don't try to dip their wick into every woman they meet. They're real prizes and I hope they find a lady who will appreciate them.
They're wonderful friends and actually would be welcome to spend the night at my house ... because I know they would not be putting the moves on me.
Yet, you are on here, instead of dating one of them. So if that kind of man is such a prize, why aren't you with one of the three that you know? | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 12:42:16 PM | I'm an old lady, divorced for many years and I can tell you.............it seldom gets better. The adage....all the good ones are taken, is so true. The single men running around trying to hook up with all the women are still single for a reason.......or again........They have never learned to be adults, responsible and respectful of the opposite sex........that's why their out there running around with their zippers half undone........playing children's games.
I for one, have had my fill of fishing........catch and toss........now I just watch and smile. Life is so much simpler............ | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 12:55:21 PM | The single men running around trying to hook up with all the women are still single for a reason.......or again........They have never learned to be adults, responsible and respectful of the opposite sex........that's why their out there running around with their zippers half undone........playing children's games.
I for one, have had my fill of fishing........catch and toss........now I just watch and smile. Life is so much simpler............
Whisper, I couldn't have said that better myself.
While I am a far cry from giving up on finding someone, I can tell you I have encountered a lot what you just described out here. I can tell you I want and deserve a whole LOT more and will NOT settle for less.
Yes, I agree with you on the point that there are a lot of men running around with their zippers half undone, many of the women are just as bad, which makes it very tough for anyone out here trying to find someone who is not into the bar scene, head games, drama one night stands, or worse yet, friends with benefits.............
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 1:32:37 PM | You asked a great question.
Good for you that you recognize that not all males are or become men.
IF a man changes to be responsible it will happen in his thirties, many boys will never change and as long as they get someone who plays their way their is not reason for them to change.
You teach a man how to treat you!!!!
If you do not like something or they have crossed your boundaries, tell them right away.
If you let them get away with it once then they will try the next thing.
Many of the boys will pout, stammer, threaten and throw a temper tantrum.
If you are strong and care enough about yourself to set boundaries then the guys who are interested in YOU will come back, the ones that don't you don't need in your life.
It is a males job to try this is what we do, and it is your job to put us in our place.
The more you value your body and values the more he will respect you when you are ready.
I have three daughters 41, 35, and 33, I have told all of them, to become women first, develop your interest, get your education, do things that please you, become a strong woman who does not need a man.
That way when you want one you will have your self esteem and not be afraid to kick him to the curb if he treats you like garbage.
If you want a man to respect you then respect yourself and don't accept any abuse from anyone.
Don't buy their plea, give me another chance, I will change!!!
Just tell them show me the change or keep on going..
Don't mess with guys until they are in their 30's that way you won't be a notch on their pistol.
I told my daughters that men are little puppies, we need to be told when we messed up right away, if a puppy pees on the floor don't scold three weeks from now, correct him right away.
That's the same with a man, especially if we ask is there something wrong?? Don't say, oh nothing then two months later unload everthing from 2 months ago...
Remember who you are in a relationship with says as much about you as it does about them..
Sane people don't hang around with crazy people..
I hope some of you ladies read this and I also hope it helps some of you. Took me a long time to learn these things and I still struggle not to have a tantrum when I don't get my way, guess thats the little boy in me...LOl
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 1:43:13 PM | I think most guys are like my friend (he's real, i jut wont use his name out of respect for the guy). He more worried about himself then anything. It doesn't mean he doesn't want you to be happy, or that he's a bad guy. He just doesn't do anything for anyone that doesn't benefit himself. Most guys have the mentality that what ever they do for you means you "owe them one." If you look at what he does for his guy friends, specifically if you hear the phrase, "I'll do it for ya, but ya owe me one." Then if they take you out on a date, and pay for your dinner/whatever you done, then they think they bought that from you. Real MEN think of the first date, paying for everything and whatnuaght as a potential investment into a relationship... that will one day include that added benefit on a semi reliable basis. You cant fight human nature. Only curve it.
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 1:52:24 PM | Like the bugg says . . . men may ask, because, you know, we want to. Boys whine, insist, and bargain, because it's all about them. It ain't the asking that bugs you, is it, OPie? Isn't it the childish tantrum that follows?
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 11:14:19 PM |
My question is for you real men, when did you stop trying to fck every women you spent two hours with?
When I found out that I could utilize my time more efficiently by wanting to boink them after an hour. Jeeeezzz. | |
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 5/31/2008 11:53:20 PM |
When do boys become men?
I believe this would be your answer, no matter what age you are...ever...
the answer to your question...a few years older than where you're at now.
Women will always ask this question, at any age, and the answer will never change...
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| When do boys become men?
Posted: 6/1/2008 12:27:01 AM | Boys become men the same time girls become women; when they start taking responsibility for the consequences of what they do and begin to think of someone besides themselves.
I think that something I read quite a few tears ago may be relevant here: People wrapped up in themselves make very small packages. | |
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