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Posted: 6/2/2008 11:39:28 PM | Obama has a good philosophy on the issues. When I saw Obama stand up and give his speech on race, that sealed things for me right there, especially seeing that media outlets kept pressing the issue that Obama was trying to transcend in this election (race).
I have yet to see Clinton get on stage and address the gender equality issue, in which some of my friends (who supported her) have waited for long enough.
McCain just needs to shut the flying hell up. I'll be damned he gets in White House with his little "Master Plan". My future children/grandchildren/greatgrandchildren shouldn't be worried about being blown up 100 years from now. Are you McCain supporters really seeing his idea of a century-long war and possibly bankrupt economy as a positive outlook??? | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 12:19:50 AM |
Liberals tend to see the world through rose colored glasses
"Rose Colored Glasses".......yes that's perfect. That is what his speech reminded me of..........the one your hero gave as he was envisioning life after his first 4 years as president. The only thing missing was reality.
I am wondering if he will ever stop talking about the war, Iran, and the rest of the world in general and start giving some answers about our domestic problems. That is what bugs me most about John McCain, and George Bush.....they are totally obsessed with war.....it's like nothing else matters to them and all they talk about. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 3:13:47 AM | "I am wondering if he will ever stop talking about the war, Iran, and the rest of the world in general and start giving some answers about our domestic problems. That is what bugs me most about John McCain, and George Bush.....they are totally obsessed with war.....it's like nothing else matters to them and all they talk about."
The war is their cash cow, but we are ones who are paying for it. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 3:49:50 AM |
speaking as a Black Man, quite frankly, with a few exceptions, the White guys in office have done a fine job of screwing it up for everyone !!! Sounds racist I know, but history tends to be on my side with that statement.
Well Kenya or Nigeria seem to be excellent points of reference to aspire ?
Or better still take South Africa or Zimbabwe - within 20 years or so they are rock bottom poor and violent .
Judge the man not his race bcuz there is no good ref as in country that you can give as an example . America is down but not that down...........lol | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 4:02:29 AM |
...For example one person they call an "idiot" ran the largest state for four years then won reelection to do it for another four years then he was elected twice to run the whole country - not bad for an "idiot" huh?
Uhh..and look where it's gotten us. I'm not 'liberal' nor 'right wing' - I want a government that's run by the people again (instead of corporations) and for the people.
screwing up things (with a few exceptions) speaks to this country's unwillingness to try anything radically different.
I was for Obama until he let the rally cry for La Raza slip during his speech. It made me take a closer look at his voting record and platform.
Want radically different? Take a real look at Ron Paul - he's not the nut that some try to paint him - unless you call a candidate that wants to fix our country from within, radically reduce the federal government's power, and stop corporations from running our government - a nut.
I know the next thing folks will say is that if you throw your vote to someone who's not one of the top three contenders, you're throwing your vote away. I say, if there are enough of us, we'll change the status quo. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 4:19:51 AM |
Obama has a good philosophy on the issues.
Are you willing to enlist in the Army so my son can come home from his second, 15 month deployment? | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 5:38:01 AM | Intrepid is right on in everything he's saying - we face the worst enemy of our times and they won't stop til they kill us all or we kill them all - libs can't seem to grasp this - Bush has prevented us from being attacked in our homeland since 911 and so will McCain - the threat of Islam Terrorism is really the biggest issue here - but regardless of the facts the Dems will gain control of congress and God help us all - I say we're doomed - I'm leaving the Republican Party which I don't think can be saved and becoming an Anarchist  | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 5:43:18 AM | http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1098219&format=text
Our country clubbed
Obama’s supporters see no virtue in USA
By Michael Graham | Tuesday, June 3, 2008 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Op-Ed
There are people in this world who believe that America is a force for evil in the world. They are called Europeans.
Then there are people who feel the same way, but who will help elect the next president of the United States.
They’re called Obama supporters.
Calm down, my Cambridge friends. I am not saying that Sen. Barack Obama hates America. But even his most ardent supporters must admit - when they aren’t fainting away at his campaign appearances - that there is a direct and disturbing correlation between hating America and loving Barack.
In Europe, for example, they absolutely adore Obama. According to a new poll in the London Telegraph, Europeans in five of the wealthiest nations support Obama over Sen. John McCain by a whopping 52 percent to 15 percent. The same poll found a majority of these same Europeans view America as a “force for evil in the world.”
Coincidence, or something more?
Europeans are currently prohibited from voting in U.S. elections (despite repeated legislative proposals by Sen. John Kerry). But it must occur to even the most obtuse observer that sentiments about America’s evil impact on the world are commonly heard on this side of the Atlantic as well - particularly by Chicago churchgoers.
There’s no reason to revisit the hate-fueled paranoia of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. And nobody familiar with Obama’s now-former adviser, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, was surprised to hear him ranting about America’s “white supremacy” or that “America is the greatest sin against God.”
What is worthy of comment is that finally, after 20 years in a church that specializes in preaching the anti-American tenets of black liberation theology, Obama has decided it’s time for him to leave. Was it because, as a proud American, he could no longer listen to “preachers” trashing the land that he loves?
No. It’s because he is tired of “every time something is said in the church by anyone associated with Trinity, the remarks will be imputed to me even if they totally conflict with my long-held views, statements and principles.”
One day a gifted theologian will explain to me how Obama could spend 20 years listening to sermons that “totally conflict with his long-held views.” But any layman can ask, with good reason, why it is that so many people who think so little of America are working so hard to elect Barack Obama our president.
Perhaps it has something to do with that word “our.”
Yesterday on my radio show, a caller named Rich defended Obama’s membership at Trinity this way:
“That church is right. White people in America are privileged, just like Japanese people are privileged in Japan. This is you guys’ country. It ain’t our country.
“Don’t blame me, it’s not my America,” says Rich.
And when he does, I hear echoes of other Obama supporters - Bill Ayers, Louis Farrakhan, Michelle Obama. They don’t see America as “our” nation - great, but flawed - but rather someone else’s country. It is simply a lost land waiting for these cultural outsiders to redeem it - and to heal our souls.
Only then will they embrace America as their nation, a nation they can finally be proud of for the first time.
I listened to Rich’s call, and my heart fell. What happened to Obama’s campaign of unity? Instead, we’ve got the “you guys” who believe America is a great nation that can be better still - vs. the “ours” who see no greatness at all, only a force for evil that must be changed from its wicked ways.
I have something for Rich, and for any other citizen who refuses to embrace America as your own because you don’t think it’s good enough for you.
It’s called a bus ticket. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 5:57:04 AM | How about the threat of American Imperialism?
And how it effects the rest of the world.
Also how it makes more hatred for the USofA. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 7:18:46 AM | There are people in this world who believe that America is a force for evil in the world. They are called Europeans.
Then there are people who feel the same way, but who will help elect the next president of the United States.
They’re called Obama supporters.
In Europe, for example, they absolutely adore Obama. According to a new poll in the London Telegraph, Europeans in five of the wealthiest nations support Obama over Sen. John McCain by a whopping 52 percent to 15 percent. The same poll found a majority of these same Europeans view America as a “force for evil in the world.”
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Just like in America there is a lot of people who call Europeans Eurotrash, say Europe is communist, socialist, and evil.
Despite being from European stock themselves. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 7:32:31 AM | "One day a gifted theologian will explain to me how Obama could spend 20 years listening to sermons that “totally conflict with his long-held views.”
Nefarious,
Why would you need a gifted theologian to explain something to you in the distant future, when you have already accepted the all the racial innuendo and ideological spin coming straight from the talking points list used the right-wing talking heads?
This is our country also; and just because you would like to push your vision of America down our throats as the only possibility for the future, doesn't mean that we won't keep on saying that what you call "our America" is not the same as the one that we are fighting for. Obama has been able to present a vision for the future of America that has resonated in the hearts of millions of Americans that are disgusted with your kind of politics. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 7:40:37 AM | Uh...Europe is socialist.
You might stop and think for a second... this kind of trash talk is happening on both sides...just like trash talk happens in the name of religion, race, politics and everywhere else that people can see a clear difference between two or more things or people. The article is just expressing how some see feel about a particular topic...it doesn't say everyone feels that way.
Everyone in America doesn't hate Europe and everyone in Europe doesn't hate America. It's mostly just the ones that tend to flip out when they don't like hearing about how some on one side or the other see it...and that happens on both sides. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 8:04:35 AM |
Bush has prevented us from being attacked in our homeland
Has he? How do we know this? Terrorists haven't had to attack us since 9/11 because their strategy was to destroy our way of life from within... Bin Laden's words. We've had the Patriot Act that will forever be a means to circumvent our civil liberties. We've extended ourselves militarily and run up a deficit of $10+ Trillion dollars and our economy is nearing collapse. Bin Laden's played the Bush administration like a Close 'n' Play record player. Why attack us again?
Outside of our own country do you know who is globally considered the greatest threat to the world? Bin Laden? Nope. It's G-Dub. Why wouldn't everyone abroad want someone other than one of the other two candidates that supported and propose the same foreign policies that have cast us as "The Evil Empire" to win our election? | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 8:05:50 AM |
Why would you need a gifted theologian to explain something to you in the distant future, when you have already accepted the all the racial innuendo and ideological spin coming straight from the talking points list used the right-wing talking heads?
Uh..I didn't write the article! But since you asked and I have some time... If The obama has sat for 20 years listening to a messages of hate and bigotry spewed by a so called gifted theologian...it might take a gifted theologian to explain how and why The obama managed to do that feeling the way he now says he does.
Obama has been able to present a vision for the future of America that has resonated in the hearts of millions of Americans that are disgusted with your kind of politics.
What vision is that? Radicalized churches? Making statements that offend people he doesn't argee with or won't vote for him..when he thinks nobody is listening? Running on just "Hope and Change" isn't a vision when he's playing the same games as everyone else. Ever realize that millions of Americans feel just the opposite of how you or The obama feel? There is more than one side of the story.
when you have already accepted the all the racial innuendo and ideological spin coming straight from the talking points list
You might want to ask The obama that question...he's the one that sat there listening to it for 20 years. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 8:21:18 AM |
Outside of our own country do you know who is globally considered the greatest threat to the world? Bin Laden? Nope. It's G-Dub. Why wouldn't everyone abroad want someone other than one of the other two candidates that supported and propose the same foreign policies that have cast us as "The Evil Empire" to win our election?
Good point...I would suggest that all those people around the world make sure the are registered to vote in November then. They shouldn't be denied a vote and a say so in the politics of our republic should they?
Oh yeah...America and all it's people are the "Evil Empire"?...just because they don't like Bush? | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 8:25:35 AM |
we face the worst enemy of our times and they won't stop til they kill us all or we kill them all - libs can't seem to grasp this -
And you cannot see that they are killing us slowly as we speak. They are winning the war on patience. Even Bush acknowledged the war of patience in his address to the Colorado Air Force Cadets a couple of weeks ago.
Do you think it is a possibility that Bin Laden, and his cohorts, are finding satisfaction watching our economy struggling, fuel prices killing us, and our impatient leaders squandering our resources in a never-ending war?
It is so obvious that we are getting weaker while the enemy is getting stronger. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 8:34:34 AM | No kidding loveoregon....and one other thing. Since when is it racist on the part of Black folks to point out that racism still exists? Since when is it racist when Black folks point out that there's problems in America? How in the world did that get sold? I'm utterly baffled......but I'm sure I'll get set straight in about a minute. LOL
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 9:11:26 AM | Nefarious:
"Ever realize that millions of Americans feel just the opposite of how you or The obama feel? There is more than one side of the story."
You may have a point that there are millions of American that, for whatever reason, are supporting McCain. We have a pretty good idea what those reasons are, and some of them aren't very good.
Fortunately, the American people will decide in November, and they may give Obama a resounding victory with enough congressional support to start bringing our country back to the place it should occupy among the civilized nations. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 10:57:40 AM | | Obama has the experience neccessary to become president: community organizer, rejected son of an African muslin, member of a hate church for 20 years, 3 years in the US Senate. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 11:19:26 AM | "Since when is it racist on the part of Black folks to point out that racism still exists? Since when is it racist when Black folks point out that there's problems in America? How in the world did that get sold? I'm utterly baffled......but I'm sure I'll get set straight in about a minute. LOL"
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This is so dead on, it's not even funny. The problem is that we (Blacks) have been doing this for as long as we've been here (Reverend Wright included) The deal is that NOW during this campaign, the message has gone out to a global audience and that dirty little secret we've tried so hard to keep under the rug is really being looked at.
I think that with a Black President, America will get a constant reminder of it's racist past...not to the degree of Obama bashing the White Power structure as the Black Panthers did back in the day, but in the way he carries out the duties of office. He'll be a constant reminder that the stereotypes some have long held about Blacks simply don't hold water.
Will racist Americans still have pride in their country if they have, as they would put it, "a president" ? I, for one, can't wait for the real campaigning to start because this will FINALLY put this country to a real test !! Will we vote for our candidate of choice because we either like the way things are (McCain) or seriously want some thing different (Obama) or will we vote because the last thing America wants to concede is that a Black Man is capable of holding the highest office in the land ? | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 11:29:48 AM | As president, will Obama always cry out somebody or the country is "racist" when things don't go his way? wah wah wah bawl wah wah
If his presidency fails will blacks say nothing has changed and it was all because of "racism"?
He has already lost big time when he threw his church under the bus. He might as well join a church or mosque in Iran as Iraq is going to turn into a rout because Iran is going to be the major power in the Mideast then.
If he was a true leader he would have changed his church from within instead of running from his church with his tail between his legs like a whipped puppy.
Obama is going to have a very tough time cleaning up the mess Bush created, inflation being a major one. Another Jimmy Carter is in the works. There are going to very powerful forces that would like to see him fail, the military industrial complex being one of them | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 11:40:32 AM |
Since when is it racist on the part of Black folks to point out that racism still exists? Since when is it racist when Black folks point out that there's problems in America? How in the world did that get sold? I'm utterly baffled......but I'm sure I'll get set straight in about a minute. LOL"
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This is so dead on, it's not even funny. The problem is that we (Blacks) have been doing this for as long as we've been here (Reverend Wright included) The deal is that NOW during this campaign, the message has gone out to a global audience and that dirty little secret we've tried so hard to keep under the rug is really being looked at.
I think that with a Black President, America will get a constant reminder of it's racist past...not to the degree of Obama bashing the White Power structure as the Black Panthers did back in the day, but in the way he carries out the duties of office. He'll be a constant reminder that the stereotypes some have long held about Blacks simply don't hold water.
Will racist Americans still have pride in their country if they have, as they would put it, "a president" ? I, for one, can't wait for the real campaigning to start because this will FINALLY put this country to a real test !! Will we vote for our candidate of choice because we either like the way things are (McCain) or seriously want some thing different (Obama) or will we vote because the last thing America wants to concede is that a Black Man is capable of holding the highest office in the land ?
the problem is that people don't understand what the word racists means. there is a difference between being a prejudiced person, and being a racist.
obama offers nothing different. obama offers more of the same huge government that george bush does. this isn't change.
I do wonder if barack obama will have the balls to point out the double standards that exist in racism today. I doubt he will, that would go against the moveon crowd that pulls his puppet strings. I wonder if he sees the problem with the fact that after don imus used the phrase "nappy headed hoes," he asked for forgiveness from a man who once said, "white folks were living in caves, when black folks were building empires." the same man who came to the defense of the jena 6, yet convicted the duke lacrosse team without a trial. I wonder if obama will speak of the irony of when michael richards, aka kramer, used a racial slur during his act, he was blackballed and had to beg for forgiveness. while someone like ice cube writes songs such as the classic, "white cave b*tch" and he can't find work fast enough doing family movies. yes, I wonder if barack will have the balls to discuss that, because no one else seems to. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 11:41:42 AM | Here's the situation we find ourselves in. Just remember "Perception is reality".
"Racism" would be a legitimate question if Obama loses. Look what happened here in Kentucky. That's a problem America wouldn't have if it did a better job of dealing with it's racist past.
He could lose and for the most part, be for valid reasons in the minds of White voters. I say "White voters" because you are the majority. But then again, the aftermath of an Obama loss, (America's image of being racist being heightened) would be another case of it's "chickens coming home to roost".
It's a tough position to be in when you consider that if anything happens to this man, the political consequences would be dire indeed and I think race relations would suffer because time would be wasted in trying to convince Black America and the rest of the world that the United States isn't racist.
I'm a registered Republican, but I'm jumping ship as it were because my party has been a bitter dissapointment for the last 8 years.
Obama/Napolitano '08 | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 11:45:27 AM |
Do you think it is a possibility that Bin Laden, and his cohorts, are finding satisfaction watching our economy struggling, fuel prices killing us, and our impatient leaders squandering our resources in a never-ending war?
That was the core strategy to begin with as was stated by Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri from the start. I'm not as sure that the administration stumbled stupidly into the trap as much as they considered that following along to achieve personal goals was a fair trade-off. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/3/2008 12:01:57 PM | BinLadin is on the record as saying that is how he is going to fight this thing.
Bleed America (and other countries he feels persecutes muslims), dry financialy slooowly. | |
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