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Posted: 6/3/2008 8:22:31 PM | Intrepidinv,
Thanks for knowing that also. Yep, I realized MSNBC is what it is... long time ago... but, I must be feeling like a bad bad girl tonight... a glutton for punishment.
Actually, am watching to reinforce in myself just how biased they are. I'm watching FOX for the real news...and guess what. They (FOX) are actually saying that Obama had the better speech tonight as far as speeches go...for rousing the audience. Plus, they are giving the high and low points of both speeches...equal time. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 8:32:18 PM | | They tend to be "fair and balanced" - just as they say. There more of a credible news source as opposed to just liberal editiorialist like MSNBC and others. I prefer to get the news from a relaible source so that I can make an educated decision as opposed to just listening to the enchanted world of the liberal, drive by media. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 10:27:15 PM |
It's almost as if America HAS to elect Obama in order to shake it's "racist" label. It's unfortunate because America has only herself to blame for being put in that position. "Chickens coming home to roost".
Wow thats a scary way to think! I don't HAVE to vote for anybody. I've never voted for a democrat for president and I won't this time and it won't have d*** thing to do with his race!
I have a feeling that the main stream media will try to induce the thought that if you don't vote for Obama your a racist. Thats a crock of s***!
It's funny seeing this. I don't see a lot of people who did vote for Obama bring this up. In fact, it wasn't even close to what made me consider him.
It seems those that scream 'they'll think were racists if we don't' or racism this or racist that are the ones who aren't voting for him and shouting this from the roof tops the loudest. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 5:15:58 PM |
Its gonna get worse Jedi.
Fear is painted all over you. No wonder McCain gets your support. You are an easy mark. Don't mean to be harsh, but that's my take on some of these posts.
Like JFK said (hope I got that right): "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself."
I'm always sorry to see people falling for the fear tactics of the Republicans. I used to myself, but just a couple of years attending the local university helped to change that. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 5:25:31 PM | Well, I think that the fact that Obama is now the democratic nominee shows how far America is from being racist; though, on balance, the attitude toward Hillary might show more sexism.
Note the young people supporting Obama. These people are far removed from MLK. They are highly influenced by the media and this is a generation that grew up with Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Reggie Jackson, Tiger Woods, Lou Gosset, etc.
Black people have made the mainstream media and young people watch black actors and sports stars in the media in all kinds of roles and positions......from gangsta to lawyer ... they were much more limited in the media in my generation, though they began to go mainstream in mine.
I think the younger people are FAR more colorblind than older people are, due to the media. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 8:06:24 PM |
I think the younger people are FAR more colorblind than older people are
I liked one quote I heard today on FOX, from a student, she said: "This country has been run by old, gray haired men too long". I agree. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 8:27:35 PM | Steven, as usual, you're dead on. How exhilarating last night to listen to one of the pundits say...'you know the truth is......these young people don't even see race.' It just floored me but, as another one of them said, the nation 'corrected itself.' It took us about 40 years but we are finally here. My thinking immediately went exactly to where yours did which was that all the leaders in the Black community from various venues (e.g. entertainment, sports et. al.) have paved the way for this. My father was racist and both parents literally disowned me when one *cough* of my husbands was Black. Now I'm sitting in front of a TV and watching this......it's amazing.
Did anyone else catch the tidbit that if the election were held today, Obama would take it by 6 points? | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 9:55:46 PM | In this instance, colorblind is a wonderful thing.
See the person, not the color. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 10:43:04 AM | We're not so colorblind that we should stop affirmative action though. There are alot of minority people who I think are discriminated against still.
With the help of Obama and his people in office things will finally be right. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 1:11:49 PM |
I liked one quote I heard today on FOX, from a student, she said: "This country has been run by old, gray haired men too long". I agree.
Damn, just when I'm getting to be an old gray haired man, my entitlement to run countries is being taken away from me. Not fair. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/5/2008 1:28:31 PM | | I color my gray with Miss Clairol..."Sunlit Brown" LOL | |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 2:32:16 PM | "Well, I think that the fact that Obama is now the democratic nominee shows how far America is from being racist"
Steven, you are very correct in that statement. America is showing that change is possible. Eventually those people who still believe that they are superior to others because of their race, and take part in the campaign to attack Obama inspired by the ideology of the KKK, the Aryan Nation, and other white supremacist groups, will have to accept that America has definitely changed. Either that, or they will become the laughinstock of this nation.
I tend to agree with the ideas in post #109 by Sematic Poise. The Obama presidency should bring definite progress in relation to bridging the gap that still exists. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:44:02 PM | | Obama is a joke. I was reading a post about McCain Vs. Obama in a boxing match. Your trying to compare a man that has not once in his life done anything physical vs. a man that is a Vet, POW and was severly tourcherd. Besides all that though, McCain is a much stronger canidate , his morals, his views, his UNDERSTANDING of the Military, his foriegn policys and ect. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:47:14 PM |
Steven, you are very correct in that statement. America is showing that change is possible. Eventually those people who still believe that they are superior to others because of their race, and take part in the campaign to attack Obama inspired by the ideology of the KKK, the Aryan Nation, and other white supremacist groups, will have to accept that America has definitely changed.
But, it's AOK for Obama to refer to a certain race as 'typical white people'. The link is provided in another thread...
And, Obama's mantra now is him referring to himself (grinning ear to ear as he chants it) as the tall 'skinny black boy'...but, let someone else say that and the Dems would be all over it.
I do not like double standards... period. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 10:00:23 PM | a man that has not once in his life done anything physical
You know this...how?
-typical white man- | |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 10:10:52 PM | sematic_poise, I think you will be surprised at how much Obama will promote self-reliance if I understand him correctly, and not push for oppressive, big government or government hand-out programs.
This is a guy who made it on his own and self-made men tend to want to encourage that in others.
I think he is more of a "teach a man to fish" guy than one inclined to give fish away. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 10:12:38 PM | | really, have you actually read his stance on the issues? seriously, its scary how many support Obama and rely solely on the rhetoric... | |
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Posted: 6/6/2008 5:57:20 AM | | Tho obama is sending a message of hope and change in American politics. Coming together for real change isn't a bad idea. I wonder why his supporters have worked so hard to trash Clinton and anyone else who doesn't support him or stands in his way? | |
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Posted: 6/6/2008 7:07:37 AM | I wonder why his supporters have worked so hard to trash Clinton and anyone else who doesn't support him or stands in his way?
That's called campaigning. People have done this since the beginning of campaigns.
I think the media needs to stop worrying so much about Obama's VP choice. Their like vultures waiting on roadkill. I wonder what they expect to evolve from his selection? They aren't nearly as interested in McCain's VP selection and he has had the nomination for a while now. | |
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| Barack Hussein Obama
Posted: 6/6/2008 7:19:08 AM | I wonder why his supporters have worked so hard to trash Clinton and anyone else who doesn't support him or stands in his way?
Because he's going to catch hell no matter WHAT he does. If he DOESN'T take Hillary, he's going to catch hell from the white liberal democrats who supported her, and also alienate a lot of female voters who voted for Hillary just because she's female, just like all the black voters who voted for Obama just because he's black.. On the other hand, if he DOES take Hillary, he's going to catch hell from the rest of America who can't stand her harpy ass! 
His next move here is critical - it could very well be the beginning of his end... If nothing else - it will be a HUGE reality check, and just might knock some sense into some people...
Mark
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| Barack Hussein Obama
Posted: 6/6/2008 8:37:15 AM | Hope and change appears to be trashing anyone with a different opinion. Throw out the reality of what's going on in the world and in the U.S. and what you see is an effort to stifle anyone that doesn't agree.
Attack...attack...so far hope and change is looking like a monster of hate and denial with the centerpiece being a guy with a racist background and a growing number of unsavory characters. His excuse is...he's not the person I though I knew all those years.
That leaves some questions. Is it that The obama has extremely bad judgement? Is he just using people he's known to climb the ladder? Is The obama just not very bright and blind to what is going on around him?...or...Is The obama is as he appears based on the people he's surrounded himself with? And open mind says something doesn't add up...I talked to some of The obama supporter are the area and most no nothing about him other than he stands for hope and change. Mentioning some concerns to them and you get quite a different display of reaction ranging from anger at questioning The obama, to doubt of what The obama actually is. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/6/2008 8:52:16 AM | Ok...I'll bite.
Nefarious, what do you mean when you refer to him as:
<div class="quote">The obama You know for a fact that it is grammatically incorrect to use an article before a person's name yet, you seem to be intentionally making a point by continually using your "The obama" comment and never using him, he, or his like normal people do.
Is "The obama" a god like figure or superior entity to you? This enquiring mind wants to know what causes someone to refer to another this way. | |
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| Obama
Posted: 6/6/2008 9:15:45 AM | RACE RACE RACE, That's all we hear about from the media and some of the posters. Well enough is enough. Martin Luther King said in his I have a dream speech, that the day will come when a man [ person ] is judged not by his skin color, but by his integrity his character. It is a shame that we have still not reached that point, and why? because of those involved in the race businesses, and those that would use the race card to stifle any type of scrutiny.
So now, here it comes, and a lot of you are not going to like it, but you know what? Tough To Bad.
I will exam Obama's character, and if that makes me a racist, Then I am proud to be a racist.
I will exam the people who Obama associated with for the past 20 years, and if that makes me a racist, then I am proud to be a racist.
I will exam Obama's policies, political agenda, plans, and when he finally says something other then change, and yes we can ,I will look close and hard at that too, and if that makes me a racist, then I am proud to be a racist.
I will not vote for someone because of or in spite off the color of his/her skin, or out of some misguided guilt feelings that I am supposed to have because some ridiculous people say I should, and attempt to throw out the guilt as if slavery ended yesterday. If that makes me a racist, Then I am proud to be a racist.
I have looked at Obama, and I don't like what he represents or portrays, and the same goes for Hillary. If that makes me a racist and a sexist, then tough too bad I am proud to be both.
I will not vote for higher taxes, more restrictions on my personal freedoms, which by the way comes with this new liberalism, of which there is nothing liberal , bigger govt. Pie in the sky ideas, an attempt to return to policies that have been tried and failed. The backwards steps to the hippy dippy days of the 60's. Oh and don't even bother to attempt to spin or confuse the issue of the loss personal freedoms, and responsibility, with the patriot act, homeland security, or any other national security mesures. If you can't see the difference, then maybe you should go educate yourself instead of crying Bush, that is becoming old and non effective, and he is not running.
Then there is McCain, well I am not too happy with him either, as a matter of fact I am disappointed. I kind of wish that he was that old war horse, but unfortunately he is not. However he has a far better view on national security, then either of the other two. He will not raise taxes, he has the experience that the other two put together don't have.
It is too bad that for many of you, you can't see beyond Bush, Iraq,homosexual rights sex drugs rock & roll, and sports. If you think that under Obama your going to be able to maintain your lifestyle, your personal freedoms of choice, apart from abortion, and keep other personal freedoms of choice, then your in for a rude awaking. The man is a Marxist socialist, an extreme leftist. Hillary is a conservative compared to him. On McCain, well who knows what the hell he is yet, right now he is trying to be everything to everybody, and that is not going to work either.
The bottom line here is take this race garbage, and sexism garbage and place it where the sun don't shine. The more the media tries to push this stuff, and cover for him, by not reporting what they would have reported if the person were not a democrat. Then you can bet that the greater the backlash against Obama/clinton will be. | |
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| Barack Hussein Obama
Posted: 6/6/2008 9:17:16 AM | Just use his whole name every time you talk about him! That's what I do! :)
I mean, would it make sense to talk about Martin King?
Martin King? Who the hell is that???
OOOOOOH! You mean Martin LUTHER King!!!
Mark
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| Barack Hussein Obama
Posted: 6/6/2008 9:21:20 AM | Yea - RADICALLY different is absolutely correct!
Thanks - but NO THANKS!
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