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Posted: 6/8/2008 2:50:56 PM | too funny!
the businessmen give you your jobs, especially small business. without those you are out in the street. same for your health insurance. you pay, sure but not what you would personally.
free stuff? some one else pays the bill? communist. hasnt worked anyplace ever yet.
if the "majority" were to be trusted, there would be no house of lords, no senate, and no electoral college.
in this society, you get paid by the services you offer.....generally no more and no less.
and whats this got to do with obama? hasnt worked a day in his life. lived in fancy locales like hawaii, boston, los angeles, prosperous chicago. kissed ass, took full advantage of affirmative action, as did his smarmy wife, and hasnt got the least idea what today's american worker goes thru. like to know the backstory on how he got to be law review. he was 20 years in militant black churches b/c he was a good business getter for law firms and could raise votes and cash there, among homies. but he wasnt the one doing the trial work, the heavy lifting.
i would be nervous to have him as my state senator. just barely qualifies as a us senator. hasnt got one single initiative to brag about. sure, some buddies included him in on some legislation. big deal. voted "present" a lot so he could court both sides on any issue. he's a worthless pail of water who cant stand up to the left wing of his own party. on the farm bill vote just passed, 307 billion dollars worth, he took the money from the big agribusiness companies and voted to hump the consumer at a time of fiercely rising prices. in-out-in-out....did it feel good to be up the consumers' butt, senator obama?
as our president, wont have a clue, will go down with the worst, jfk, carter and the like. his idea of foreign policy is campaigning in guam. never has set one foot in israel. and that means his advisors will be making big decisions, losers from the clinton and carter years. g-d help us. | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 3:16:23 PM | | Trapper... the Poster (Sematic) right before your post in this thread... which your post is referencing I think? That person is being 'tongue n cheek'.... in all his posts. Quite good too! He is not an Obama Supporter. | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 3:21:24 PM | tongue/cheek ok...
but i still stand by my critique. | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 3:48:43 PM |
Except for the fact that he is a good speaker and for ideological reasons - why would anyone vote for Obama for president? John McCain has so much more experience in world affairs, the military, the government, etc. Obama has none of this. These are very serious times and America is to important to vote for someone just because of their race or the fact they're a good speaker or b/c he's a liberal.
Dude, how many threads are you going to start asking the same question? You going for your max of 3 per day? | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 4:56:23 PM | As one of those spiritually enlightened people you refer to, I have to agree with assessment of Senator Obama. We are in an age of a great awakening on many different levels and part of that awakening is the revealing of many people like him...Lightworkers as you called them.
If you look at what he is on the surface, it lends more to the analysis. Think about the fact that a BI-RACIAL man is poised to take the powerful office in the country. What has been one of our most damning problems ? Racism. This campaign has brought out the best and worst in Americans and is causing us all to ask questions.
Some people fear the fact that Obama is "liked" and even supported by foriegn leaders. This is a bad idea because.... Bush sure as hell doesn't have any real friends on that front. I don't know if McCain would have any better luck. I think other nations have watched this country as it relates to it's racial issues and perhaps, would rather deal with someone like themselves, a person of color. Remember the success Jesse Jackson had in getting hostages released WITHOUT U.S. sanction.
It will be a tough four years in office for President Obama, but I also feel like he'll be able to show Congress that it's against America's best interest to continue what has come to be seen as more corrupt politricks as usual by both Democrats and Republicans. Taking the Clintons to the woodshed was no doubt part of that.
I'm not expecting any "miricles" with an Obama presidency, but I do expect the beginning of the restoration of faith in this country's political system. It's about time that racism was put on trial and it's about time that Americans REALLY got seriously involved in our future.
Obama/Napolitano '08 | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 6:58:04 PM |
Trapper... the Poster (Sematic) right before your post in this thread... which your post is referencing I think? That person is being 'tongue n cheek'.... in all his posts. Quite good too! He is not an Obama Supporter.
I'm serious about my postings.
As serious as a heart attack.
Obama will easily be elected and after he gets his people in he will right all the wrongs America has handed down to those of us suffering from oppression in this country.
Vote 'Obama 2008' | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 7:10:54 PM | As serious as a heart attack
Don't mind them Sematic. They are so full of fear they are afraid to vote for anything other than their candidate. It's really not their fault.
That party had me in their "fear" clutches for almost 30 years. I have since seen them for what they aren't. | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 7:19:27 PM |
I'm serious about my postings.
As serious as a heart attack.
Obama will easily be elected and after he gets his people in he will right all the wrongs America has handed down to those of us suffering from oppression in this country.
Ahhhh...Hmmmmm.. then, I stand Corrected. May your wish for 'freebies' not come true. A day's pay for a day's work unless one is (for real) disabled and/or in real need for assistance.
May my taxes not be squandered on 'free stuff'.
Keep the Democrats away from the Presidency - 2008 - But.... if that's not possible... I want my Freebies too!!!
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Posted: 6/8/2008 7:22:07 PM |
That party had me in their "fear" clutches for almost 30 years. I have since seen them for what they aren't.
Quite liberating, isn't it? Seeing things clearly!! Always a good thing 
Obama '08 | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 7:27:59 PM |
Ahhhh...Hmmmmm.. then, I stand Corrected. May your wish for 'freebies' not come true. A day's pay for a day's work unless one is (for real) disabled and/or in real need for assistance.
May my taxes not be squandered on 'free stuff'.
Keep the Democrats away from the Presidency - 2008 - But.... if that's not possible... I want my Freebies too!!!
Why do you equate the person's post with wantingt to get freebies or a free ride of some sort? And, why is it you equate all things such as this with democrats? | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 1:55:29 AM | obama 08....means the end of this country, and the good things, and the possibilties. the middle class will be wrecked. sure, things are tilted for the rich and powerful, but please tell me how someone of no experience is gonna REALISTICALLY change that? what, he is gonna use the carter/clinton retreads to advise him? by now he's made so many deals to be elected in this hillary fight that the excell spreadsheet of promises needs its own hard drive. the only real thing thats gonna change are your taxes, up, robbing many people of their retirement plan money. oh well, when they are old and eating out of garbage pails, sleeping in dumpsters, the thought that they voted for the hip, cool and trendy will be very comforting.
would you say the new york city of the 1950's, early 60's, before the riots, where my mother lived and walked ANYWHERE free of care at 4am has IMPROVED? i wouldnt, i would say we just came to lower our standards, giulaini/bloomberg's cleanup notwithstanding. in the blackout of '65 people helped each other. by '77 there was widespread looting and riots."christmastime in july,"the rioters called it. can you connect the dots? get real.
would you say that all black local governments with a few token whites or all hispanic local governments with a few token whites has IMPROVED anything? i wouldnt. in fact, set new lower standards and expectations here in the south. no problem putting you on hold forever, or hanging up on you. they know full well what they can and cant get away with. and n0w they are loaded with "reverse racism."
would you say life in the city of miami in the 1960's compared to now is IMPROVED? is it safer? is it cleaner? is it friendlier? it was just voted the nastiest city in the usa to drive in. ha ha ha ha. you will hear more french and german there, never mind spanish, than you will english. get real and stop being children. keep your hippy dippy crap away from me. the real hippies are either dead now or very wealthy. they saw the light early. can you?
be careful what you wish for! you just might get it! | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 3:43:47 AM | "Well this ain't the guy I thought I knew?".... The obama parrot needs to be trotted out again.
Top Talent Scout for Obama Tied to Subprime Lender
James Johnson, one of three people tapped by Mr. Obama recently to oversee the search for his running mate, took at least five real estate loans totaling more than $7 million from Countrywide Financial Corp. through an informal program for friends of the company's CEO, Angelo Mozilo, the Wall Street Journal reported Saturday. The Journal said at least two of the mortgages, among a series of loans made available to people Countrywide officials called "friends of Angelo," were at rates below market averages, though it is difficult to predict a market rate without access to nonpublic information about a borrower's credit history and other factors that can reduce interest charges on a loan.
http://www.nysun.com/national/top-talent-scout-for-obama-tied-to-subprime-lender/79579/ | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 5:37:57 AM | trapper john md, so why dont you just not vote for the guy and shut up? I'm not voting for McCain, I dont post the same drivel criticizing him over and over. Cast your vote in November, think what you want, do what you want....
By the way, I dont get it how REpublicans seem to think they are the party of the working man, that is about the biggest crock. Are you guys serious?
You paint Democrats as a party of "handouts" and freebies?
Did you not get the memo that the middle class is shrinking under Republican rule, so much so that it is disappearing and the uber-rich and uber-poor have grown considerably.......also average household wealth is down to historic levels?
Outside your very vivid imaginations, the policies I have seen Obama put forward around taxation are mostly to benefit the working man and middle class.......I dont see where the freebies come in. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 10:19:27 AM | so, TrapperJohn, REpublicans are successful white men who only want a free shot at making a good living and, of course, sharing and creating the wealth with and for others, while Democrats are a rag tag army of single welfare mothers, drag queens, FLAMING communists and being led over the cliff by a gang of Muslim politicians out of Illinois, promising handouts when they only really give our tax money away to anti-american conglomerates like archer daniels midland companies ..... and people are doing well, almost everyone drives a new SUV, even the stinking little brown people do (not me, though, Ive still got a 1999 Volvo S70, just happen to take real good care of it...:-)) ....and if only a brave man like John McCain is elected, someone who knows best for us, we will have the kind of commitment we need to continue the mission in Iraq, occupy that country for as long as it takes come hell or high water, and vanquish terrorism ....maybe even take over the whole damned Middle East and let Israel run it or somethin'..... and then everything, why, it will all be just as right as rain.
Is that the fantasy, trapperjohn?
No offense, but I have to say it reminds me far more of some thought process of Bugs Bunny or Porky Pig than resembles reality. It's warped and cartoonlike the way you try to simplify and categorize just about every little problem in teh entire world having a solution from the barrel of a gun.
Pop! Whiz! Bang! Kaboom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 3:42:05 AM | Subject: Obama Explains why he doesn't salute the U.S. Flag
WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING ON OUR SIDE??????
Obama 'explains'
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18 04 -0400, 'LTG Bill Ginn' USAF ret. forwarded the following:
Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin,
presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he
&n bsp; doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171,
During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present
except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag
with the right hand over the heart.
'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking
sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the
American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a
war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should
be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song
'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might
salute it.'
If he is elected president of the US and he does not want to be on the side of the US flag, whose side will he be on? | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 4:25:36 AM |
There are a lot of people in the world to whom the
American flag is a symbol of oppression How very telling...I guess this explains his association with TUCC. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 6:15:27 AM |
WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING ON OUR SIDE??????
Obama 'explains'
If he is elected president of the US and he does not want to be on the side of the US flag, whose side will he be on?
This rumour is false. Obama never said that.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp
It takes just two minutes to research any quote that has been attributed to any politician to determine whether it's accurate or not.
I would suggest that this would be a prudent course of action rather than mindlessly passing it on and ending up looking like a fool.
Maybe some posters would rather take the risk of looking foolish if it gives them an opportunity to smear someone they don't like. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 6:54:36 AM | The foreign minister said "my message" to Mr. Obama "was very clear. . . . Really, we are making progress. I hope any actions you will take will not endanger this progress." He said he was reassured by the candidate's response, which caused him to think that Mr. Obama might not differ all that much from Mr. McCain.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/17/AR2008061702034_pf.html
Mr. Zebari's Message
Iraq's foreign minister has a chat with Barack Obama.
Wednesday, June 18, 2008; A14
SEN. BARACK OBAMA told Iraq's foreign minister this week that he plans to visit the country between now and the presidential election. We think that's a good thing, not because Sen. John McCain has been prodding the candidate to do it but because it will give Mr. Obama an opportunity to refresh his badly outdated plan for Iraq. To do that, the Democrat needs to listen more to dedicated Iraqi leaders like Hoshyar Zebari, the foreign minister -- who, it seems, didn't hold back during their telephone conversation.
Mr. Obama laid out his current strategy for Iraq in November 2006, shortly before announcing his candidacy for president. At the time, Iraq appeared to be on the verge of a sectarian civilian war, and Mr. Obama was trying to distinguish himself in the Democratic primary race by offering a timetable for withdrawal. Nineteen months later, the situation in Iraq has changed dramatically, with violence down 75 percent from its peak and the Iraqi government and army in control of most of the country. But Mr. Obama has not altered his position: He still proposes withdrawing most U.S. troops according to a fixed timetable, set to the most rapid pace at which commanders have said American forces could be pulled out.
Mr. Zebari, who has served as foreign minister in every Iraqi government since 2003, finds Mr. Obama's proposal worrying. In a meeting with Post editors and reporters Tuesday, he said that after all the pain and sacrifices of the past five years, "we are just turning the corner in Iraq." A precipitous withdrawal, he said, "would create a huge vacuum and undo all the gains and achievements. And the others" -- enemies of the United States -- "would celebrate."
Mr. Zebari said he told Mr. Obama that "Iraq is not an island." In other words, an American withdrawal that destabilized the country would also roil the region around it and embolden U.S. adversaries such as al-Qaeda and Iran. "We have a deadly enemy," Mr. Zebari said. "When he sees that you commit yourself to a certain timetable, he will use this to increase pressure and attacks, to make it look as though he is forcing you out. We have many actors who would love to take advantage of that opportunity." Mr. Zebari says he believes U.S. forces can and should be drawn down. His point is that reductions should be made gradually, as the Iraqi army becomes stronger.
The foreign minister said "my message" to Mr. Obama "was very clear. . . . Really, we are making progress. I hope any actions you will take will not endanger this progress." He said he was reassured by the candidate's response, which caused him to think that Mr. Obama might not differ all that much from Mr. McCain. Mr. Zebari said that in addition to promising a visit, Mr. Obama said that "if there would be a Democratic administration, it will not take any irresponsible, reckless, sudden decisions or action to endanger your gains, your achievements, your stability or security. Whatever decision he will reach will be made through close consultation with the Iraqi government and U.S. military commanders in the field." Certainly, it makes sense to consult with those who, like Mr. Zebari, have put their lives on the line for an Iraq that would be a democratic U.S. ally. Mr. Obama ought to listen carefully to what they are saying. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 8:57:52 AM | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11168.html
Muslims barred from picture at Obama event
Two Muslim women at Barack Obama's rally in Detroit Monday were barred from sitting behind the podium by campaign volunteers seeking to prevent the women's headscarves from appearing in photographs or on television with the candidate.
The campaign has apologized to the women, all Obama supporters who said they felt betrayed by their treatment at the rally.
"This is of course not the policy of the campaign. It is offensive and counter to Obama's commitment to bring Americans together and simply not the kind of campaign we run," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton. "We sincerely apologize for the behavior of these volunteers."
Building a human backdrop to a political candidate, a set of faces to appear on television and in photographs, is always a delicate exercise in demographics and political correctness. Advance staffers typically pick supporters out of a crowd to reflect the candidate's message.
When Obama won North Carolina amid questions about his ability to connect with white voters, for instance, he stood in front of a group of middle-aged white women waving small American flags. Across the aisle, a Hispanic New Hampshire Democrat, Roberto Fuentes, told Politico that he was recently asked, and declined, to contribute to the "diversity" of the crowd behind Senator John McCain at a Nashua event.
But for Obama, the old-fashioned image-making contrasts with his promise to transcend identity politics, and to embrace all elements of America. The incidents in Michigan, which has one of the largest Arab and Muslim populations in the country, also raise an aspect of his campaign that sometimes rubs Muslims the wrong way: The candidate has vigorously denied a false, viral rumor that he himself is Muslim. But the denials seem to some at times to imply that there something wrong with the faith, though Obama occasionally adds that he means no disrespect to Islam.
"I was coming to support him, and I felt like I was discriminated against by the very person who was supposed to be bringing this change, who I could really relate to," said Hebba Aref, a 25-year-old lawyer who lives in the Detroit suburb of Bloomfield Hills. "The message that I thought was delivered to us was that they do not want him associated with Muslims or Muslim supporters."
In Detroit Monday the two different Obama volunteers – in separate incidents– made it clear that headscarves wouldn't be in the picture. The volunteers gave different explanations for excluding the hijabs, one bluntly political and the other less clear.
In Aref's case, there was no ambiguity.
That incident began when the volunteer asked Aref's friend Ali Koussan and two other friends, Aref's brother Sharif and another young lawyer, Brandon Edward Miller, whether they would like to sit behind the stage. The three young men said they would, but mentioned they were with friends.
The men said the volunteer, a twenty-something African American woman in a green shirt, asked if their friends looked and were dressed like the young men, who were all light-skinned and wearing suits. Miller said yes, but mentioned that one of their friends was wearing a headscarf with her suit.
The volunteer "explained to me that because of the political climate and what's going on in the world and what's going on with Muslim Americans it's not good for her to be seen on TV or associated with Obama," said Koussan, who is a law student at Wayne State University.
Both Koussan and Miller said they specifically recalled the volunteer citing the "political climate" in telling them they couldn't sit behind Obama.
"I was like, 'You've got to be kidding me. Are you serious?'" Koussan recalled.
Shimaa Abdelfadeel's story was different. She'd waited on line outside the Joe Louis Arena for three hours in the sun, and was walking through the giant hall when a volunteer approached two of her non-Muslim friends, a few steps ahead of her, and asked if they'd like to sit in "special seating" behind the stage, said one friend, Brittany Marino, who like Abdelfadeel is a recent University of Michigan graduate who works for the university.
When they said they were with Abdelfadeel, the volunteer told them their friend would have to take the headscarf off or stay out of the special section, Marino said. They declined the seats.
Abdelfadeel, after recovering from the shock of the incident, went to look for the volunteer and confronted her minutes later, she said in an email interview with Politico.
"We're not letting anyone with anything on their heads like baseballs or scarves sit behind the stage," she paraphrased the volunteer as saying, an account Marino confirmed. "It has nothing to do with your religion!"
In most work and school settings, religious dress – Jewish yarmulkes, Sikh turbans, Muslim hijabs – is permitted where secular clothing like baseball caps is not.
"The scarf is not just something she can take off – it's part of her identity," said Marino.
Photographs of the event also show men with hats in the section behind Obama and Gore, though not directly behind the candidate.
Abdelfadeel, like Aref, felt "disappointed, angry, and let-down," she later wrote.
She was "let-down that the Obama campaign continously perpetuates this attitude towards Muslims and Arabs - as if being merely associated one is a sin."
The two womens' friends who witnessed the incidents were disappointed too. Aref's friend Miller said he was "shocked" by the contrast between Obama's message and their experience.
"He was the one candidate who you would expect to stand up for something like that – and behind the scenes you have something completely contrary to what he was running on," said Koussan, Aref's other friend.
Aref and her friends complained to the campaign, and after those complaints and an inquiry from Politico, Obama's director of advance, Emmett S. Beliveau, called her to apologize.
An Obama aide also noted that the campaign has no policy against the candidate's appearing with women in headscarves: The next morning at Wayne State University, Obama posed for a picture with a student wearing a hijab.
Photographs from a Seattle rally earlier this year also clearly show a couple in Muslim clothes behind the candidate.
The administrator of the "Muslims4Obama" group on Obama's website, which is not formally part of the campaign, also said she had "not heard anything regarding Muslim supporters being steered away from sitting behind Sen. Obama at the event," and noted that he'd had Muslim supporters present at events in Minnesota, including one at which he stood with a Muslim member of Congress, Keith Ellison.
Aref said she was glad Obama had apologized, but not entirely satisfied.
"I think this is a much bigger deal than maybe they're perceiving it as," she said, noting that Obama had placed a personal call to a television reporter he'd dismissively called "Sweetie."
"An apology from him personally would be better," she said, then reconsidered. "If they are true to their word, I think it would suffice to have an invitation to their next rally and have seats behind him and show up on TV." | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 10:03:52 AM | Obama's run for the Presidency will do the same as Hillary's for the Dem. nomination. They both will be rememberd for their brave fight in the struggle for equality. Which they deserve credit for. But I am affraid that's where it ends. Champions in their own right but not Presidential material. Maybe if Collin Powell runs in 2012 it could be a different outcome. Or Condi Rice could get the double whammi. Liberal politicians, and I emphasize politicians, not constituants, are the worst of the bunch. A lib politician will pass gas and blame it on someone else. Even though it stinks at least the rep/conservative politicians claim their fame. A vote for an Obama-Nation would be an abomination! There's a bumber sticker. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 10:22:48 AM | Obama told ABC yesterday that the federal government should have taken the same approach to detaining and prosecuting 9/11 suspects that it did following the 1993 attack.
“We were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated. And the fact that the administration has not tried to do that has created a situation where not only have we never actually put many of these folks on trial, but we have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law all around the world, and given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment,” Obama said. “So that, I think, is an example of something that was unnecessary. We could have done the exact same thing, but done it in a way that was consistent with our laws.”
James Woolsey, who served as CIA Director 1993-1995, told reporters that the approach taken by Clinton administration and President Bush before 9/11 was a “miserable failure.”
“I don’t say this lightly. This is an extremely dangerous and extremely naïve approach toward terrorism,” Woolsey said. “It was tried for essentially eight years…it was a miserable failure and we need an approach that combines law enforcement, where appropriate, with intelligence and going after terrorists where they are.”
Scheunemann also revived the 3 a.m. argument from the Democratic primary in making his case today.
“Whether its an ignorance of the facts, a misunderstanding of the threat we face, the only conclusion we can reach is if Senator Obama did receive the 3 a.m. phone call that was so talked about in the primaries, I guess his response would be to call the lawyers at the Justice Department,” Scheunemann added.
Additionally, in what could be a preview of a new talking point for a campaign that has aggressively lashed out at last week’s Supreme Court ruling on detainees, Scheuneman said, “Someone should frankly ask Senator Obama if he believes that is Osama bin Laden were captured and taken to Guantanamo, whether he should have habeas (corpus) rights.”
More questions about Obama's national security credentials. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 10:37:44 AM |
Without digressing into a racially tinged debate
Good. Otherwise you might be accused of being a racist.
if you look at most of the countries run by black men or governments are generally in big trouble. Look at Somalia for example. Truthfully, its not about race for me
Whooops. There goes that idea. I guess you are a racist after all. Fortunately, the vast majority in your state voted for Obama.
Truthfully, its not about race for me
Geeeez. Another graduate of the school of flip-flop. You're funny, man.
Liberals tend to see the world through rose colored glasses.
And conservatives don't tend to see it at all. Go figure.
not bad for an "idiot" huh?
And you're proud of that?
speaking as a Black Man, quite frankly, with a few exceptions, the White guys in office have done a fine job of screwing it up for everyone !!! Sounds racist I know, but history tends to be on my side with that statement.
Speaking as a white man, you got that story straight my friend :)
Well Kenya or Nigeria seem to be excellent points of reference to aspire ?
It's pretty obvious that he was referring to the U.S. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 3:08:10 PM | | Looks like this whole general election is going to be tied up with racist type talk. Actually that shouldn't make any difference even if the debate is falling apart on one side or the other. There is so much more to be talked about other than race. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 6:42:20 PM |
I would suggest that this would be a prudent course of action rather than mindlessly passing it on and ending up looking like a fool.
Maybe some posters would rather take the risk of looking foolish if it gives them an opportunity to smear someone they don't like.
Perhaps I made a mistake.
Thank you for your kindness in your analysis of me.
I have no feeling for the man, but his actions cause concern. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 3:30:33 AM | "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That's not leadership. That's not going to happen."
-- Barack Obama
So we are going to ride bicycles, have no a/c or food and live like obama wants us to live. are we to become a third world country under obama? I think the american public
has worked too hard, given away too much on foriegn aid, sent to much supplies and food and resources to the countries that obama says will not put up with our lifestyles,
for him to mewl about the way we have worked our ass off to get where we are today.
I dson't know anyone that sets their a/c on 72. Most people I know use 78. Most people that can afford it,are driving new fuel efficient vehicles. Is Obama going to buy those cars for poor people that can't afford new cars or make them ride bicycles?
Is Obama saying we can no longer feed our children the food they need to grow healthy
and live productive lives? Does he ration food to his family? He talks about leadership. Will he lead by example? Will you? | |
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