| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 6/12/2008 2:59:59 PM | McCain will win by 5 to 10 million votes. If he picks Condi Rice or bobby jindal it will be a landslide wwhhhooohhh, slow down there, papi.
As an avid McCain supporter, I think it both arrogant and unwise to make light of Obama's strengths. The man might very well serve McCain his own a$$ to him on a decorated war vet platter.
It is unwise to underestimate ones opponent.
Though I do join you in chanting "Go McCain, its your birthday"   | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 6/12/2008 4:21:33 PM | | Right now - 7:00 pm est- on Fox, they are televising a town hall meeting where McCain will be taking questions from the audience. It would have been interesting if Obama had attended also, but I'd like to see if McCain will do better in this format than he did with his speech the other night. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 6/12/2008 7:52:25 PM |
I tuned in and only got "Smarter than A Fifth Grader"..??
That's strange. It only lasted an hour, so there were only a handful of questions anyway.
He did ok on most of them, but then he throws in a phrase like "obscene profits" that makes me want to bang my head against a wall! I think I'm going to have a lot of holes in my walls between now and November. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 6/13/2008 6:44:56 PM | Back to the OP's question ?
"Countdown" Beats "O'Reilly Factor" In Ratings Demo For First Time Ever
MSNBC's "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" beat Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor" in the key Adults 25-54 demographic for the first time ever last week.
"Countdown" averaged 477,000 viewers (A25-54) vs. O'Reilly's 472,000 (excluding Tuesday's primary coverage). This marks the first time that MSNBC has beaten Fox News in O'Reilly's 8pm time slot since June 2001.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/10/
countdown-beats-oreilly-f_n_106298.html
General Election: McCain vs. Obama
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread
RCP 06/02 - 06/12 -- 46.3 42.7 Obama +3.6
Gallup
Tracking 06/09 - 06/12 2714 RV 46 43 Obama +3.0
Rasmussen
Tracking 06/10 - 06/12 3000 LV 49 44 Obama +5.0
NBC/WSJ 06/06 - 06/09 1000 RV 47 41 Obama +6.0
Hotline/FD 06/05 - 06/08 806 RV 44 42 Obama +2.0
IBD/TIPP 06/02 - 06/08 916 RV 43 40 Obama +3.0
CNN 06/04 - 06/05 921 RV 49 46 Obama +3.0
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/
general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
I'm ready, all right. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 6/14/2008 8:18:42 PM | | I agree on one point..McCain does play with words, everytime he expresses one view, the next time he opens his mouth he expresses the opposite view...Can't he keep track of which side of the road he is driving on...I think not! Let the debates begin, Obama is ready to speak of the issues that need to be addressed...McCain he is up to using the Bush fear tactics already! Terror....terror...terror....zzzzzzzzz | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 6/18/2008 9:14:03 AM | I find one of the most intriguing things about Obama is his willingness to bring in the best of the best to advise him on the issues. Today I am reading that he is organizing what he calls a Senior Working Group on National Security. His group consists of former Secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Warren Christopher and former Defense Secretary William Perry. Also included are former Democratic lawmakers known for their foreign policy expertise. Sam Nunn of Georgia, Lee Hamilton of Indiana, David Boren of Oklahoma and Tim Roemer of Indiana. Also included in the discussion are 40 retired admirals and generals.
McCain vs. Obama is going to be portrayed by the Republicans as a guy with experience vs an inexperienced liberal. That's and easy sell. But if anyone takes the time to look at this with an open mind you'll see that Obama is approaching this from a business standpoint. He looking for the best advice to make the proper decision for his company, the USA. It's a far cry from the insular Neocon's, Bush, Cheney and Rove, that have been driving their war and fear agenda the last eight years.
The more I see of Obama's organization and willingness to get a broader picture of how to manage the country, the more comfortable I feel about his ability to redirect this country in the coming years. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 6/20/2008 2:12:12 AM | "I like to think of Fox News as the McCain Campaign Strategy channel."
I can't find a channel that isn't Republican biased to some extent. Some just more than others. I must note that this is corporate Republican vs the poor guillibles they dupe into thinking the current administration actually represents anything close to Christian values.
Now, when I travel and see the Non-US administration contolled CNN it is really interesting how different the content is. Non-travelling Americans really have no clue how the rest of the world sees us. Alas the days of free press are a fond memory. They don't even acknowledge how yellow the journalism is today.
However. since some Republicans dislike McBush enough to refuse to vote at all, then there is hope those in the industry expressing that view will offset the bias. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 6/20/2008 2:29:31 AM | ^^I love all your posts for their objective views. You are obviously well educated.
On topic: Just get the debates started so that the "less informed" can start to formulate their opinions thereby, allowing the polls to have a more valid conclusion to the results of this election. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 6/20/2008 11:13:11 AM |
On topic: Just get the debates started so that the "less informed" can start to formulate their opinions thereby, allowing the polls to have a more valid conclusion to the results of this election.
As for the initial post. I am skeptical about the unmoderated town hall debates, but the alternative isn't much better. I think the unmoderated debates would benefit Obama because I don't think McCain is going to be able to keep his cool if Obama starts making headway against him.
On the flipside, if we get a moderated debate like that debacle that ABC's Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos moderated over then I don't think it will be worth the time to watch it. That was straight out of the National Enquirer. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 8/25/2008 6:44:29 AM | Moderated or not, Obama/McCain "debates" would be a bad idea.
Why shut out 3/5 (?) of the candidates and 99/100 of the fresh ideas? What about McKinney, Barr & Nader? Haven't they done their homework? Aren't their views worth hearing? Wouldn't any one of them disrupt the gentleman's agreement between the Republicans, Democrats and mainstream media to keep the discussion narrow and omit important topics?
Obama & McCain are both pledging to keep American troops in the Middle East indefinitely and put Israel's interests ahead of America's. Where's the debate?
The Obama & McCain campaigns both get the majority of their campaign-finance dollars from soft money, corporate contributions and PACs. Where's the debate? (do spare me the Democrat's blather about contributor headcount)
Obama & McCain both stood idly by while the 2004 election fraud was certified in Congress. Where's the debate?
And so forth, and so on, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 8/25/2008 6:46:39 AM | An unmoderated debate will probably help McCain more than Obama. McCain is pretty good at speaking off the cuff, and McCain has a loooong history of just making shit up as he goes along. Advantage: McCain.
Obama, on the other hand, believes that words have lasting meaning, which is why he chooses them so carefully when speaking extemporaneously. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 8/25/2008 7:35:29 AM | Might be the fact that McCain already knows the answers while Obama has to dig around in his brain for them.
Obama, on the other hand, believes that words have lasting meaning, which is why he chooses them so carefully when speaking extemporaneously.
Maybe he should teach that to his wife. So far, her's are the only words with lasting meaning I've heard from either of them that have influenced my opinions on who I'm voting for. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 8/25/2008 10:54:37 PM |
Might be the fact that McCain already knows the answers while Obama has to dig around in his brain for them.
damn the man! Damn him for thinking about his answers rather than giving extremely simplified answers for complicated questions, answer that of course are wrong, but are suited to the Joe Six pack of America.
Verb, Noun, and POW. | |
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| Un-moderated Obama/McCain debates: good idea or bad? and why?
Posted: 8/26/2008 11:31:06 AM | Made me want to throw up on something watching it. It is the fakest of fake bullshit you can ever witness. Democratss and Republiacans is a bunch of hogwash.
Debt Farming is a mechanism used by "THE BANKERS" to create debt for Americans to pay off
The "harvesting" of debt crops is accomplished via the usage of WAR during Republican Administrations… which costs billions of dollars
"THE BANKERS" charge the US government interest on all the money the US borrows to fund their fear-based WARS
So…who do you think pays for all that borrowed money and all the interest being charged by "THE BANKERS?"....
THAT'S RIGHT!!!....it's you.
The method that the US uses to pay all this debt back is to tax YOU…
Yayyyy!..."THE BANKERS" can give out sub-prime loans (oh oh BANKERS…make sure watch out for poor production in the US economy which will result in default) and bury you in credit card debt so the US government can borrow even more DEBT from "THE BANKERS"...YAYY!...
BUT THEN…the US needs a way to start paying all this debt back….OH OH!...so…cue the entrance of the Democratic Administration…"YES WE CANNNN!"..."IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE" YAYY. ..during this period, debt decreases as America's "fear" lessens…production begins to create real US wealth instead of repayment of debt…
You don't believe me?...Just have a look at this table:
(Republican Administrations = War/Fear of War) VS. (Democrat Administrations = Time For Change, Freedom and the Reclamation of America's "Prosperity")
1 = Democrats NO WAR
2 = Republicans WAR
War = American people are in a state of fear due to government propaganda or actual war
No War = "Time For Change", "America needs to reclaim its prosperity"
YEAR
1 1960 NO WAR
1 1961 NO WAR
1 1962 NO WAR
Kennedy 1 1963 NO WAR
(this war almost didn't start here because of Kennedy..isn't it obvious?)
1 1964 WAR Vietnam
1 1965 WAR Vietnam
1 1966 WAR Vietnam
1 1967 WAR Vietnam
Debt created to finance war
2 1968 WAR Vietnam
2 1969 WAR Vietnam
2 1970 WAR Vietnam
2 1971 WAR Vietnam
2 1972 WAR Vietnam
2 1973 WAR Vietnam
2 1974 NO WAR
2 1975 NO WAR
1 1976 NO WAR
1 1977 NO WAR
1 1978 NO WAR
1 1979 NO WAR
2 1980 NO WAR
2 1981 NO WAR
2 1982 NO WAR
Debt created to stockpile US nuclear Weapons
2 1983 WAR Cold War (At its peak)
2 1984 WAR Cold War (At its peak)
2 1985 WAR Cold War (At its peak)
2 1986 WAR Cold War (At its peak)
2 1987 WAR Cold War (At its peak)
2 1988 WAR Cold War (At its peak)
2 1989 WAR Cold War (At its peak)
2 1990 WAR Persian Golf
2 1991 WAR Persian Golf
1 1992 NO WAR
1 1993 NO WAR
1 1994 NO WAR
1 1995 NO WAR
1 1996 NO WAR
1 1997 NO WAR
1 1998 NO WAR
1 1999 NO WAR
2 2000 NO WAR
Debt created to finance war
2 2001 WAR Afghanistan
2 2002 WAR Afghanistan
2 2003 WAR Iraq/Afghanistan
2 2004 WAR Iraq/Afghanistan
2 2005 WAR Iraq/Afghanistan
2 2006 WAR Iraq/Afghanistan
2 2007 WAR Iraq/Afghanistan
2 2008 WAR Iraq/Afghanistan
Hmmmmmmmm, call me Nostradamus
1 2009 NO WAR
1 2010 NO WAR
1 2011 NO WAR
1 2012 NO WAR
1 2013 NO WAR
1 2014 NO WAR
Anyone noticing a pattern here?
Why is this the case though?…how could the American People be so gullible?...
THE MEDIA!
That's right... when "THE BANKERS" want the debt farming to stop, they begin to paint the next Democratic Messiah of Change; (Kennedy, Carter, Obama) for all the poor Americans to suckle on…
Don't forget who really controls the elections and who ultimately passes bills in the senate...….the "LOBBYISTS!"….and who are the most influential "LOBBYISTS?!?", well…you guessed it...."THE BANKERS" and "THE MEDIA"
WHO OWNS THE MEDIA????
"THE BANKERS!!!!!"
Any AMericans reading this.....WAKE THE F*** UP!
VOTE RON PAUL 2008 | |
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