| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 10:09:31 AM |
This is patently false:
Criticism of the idea that white guilt animates most whites (or most whites on the left) is common from left-wing or American liberal commentators. While the concept of "White Guilt" may have become popularized by some social theorists, there is no empirical evidence that Caucasians in the modern day actually feel "guilty" about acts they had nothing to do with. It is likely that compassionate acts, empathy or concern demonstrated by some Caucasian people may be falsely interpreted as "white guilt".
You have got to be kidding ? What colour is your sky?
If you do not feel that constant 24/7 m.s.m. and culture wide induced white guilt is all too very real , then , you are not all there !
Our entire culture is absolutely obsessed with "slavery" ....what sane person would argue otherwise?
Lefties and reality are suffering a serious disconnect !.
There's not much point in arguement with one.
There is no hope of social progression while living in a world of absolute dillusion , as you seem to be !
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 10:23:54 AM | Elfwitch...
From Earl Woods biography itself: (father to Tiger)
Woods comes from a comfortable social background. His father, Earl Woods, is a Vietnam War veteran and a retired U.S. Army lieutenant colonel, of mixed Black, Chinese and Native American ancestry. He is now the chairman of his son's charitable foundation, the Tiger Woods Foundation (see section Charity and youth projects below). Woods' mother, Kultida Woods, is originally from Thailand, and is of mixed Thai, Chinese, and Dutch ancestry. This makes Woods himself one quarter Chinese, one quarter Thai, one-quarter Black, one eighth Native American, and one eighth Dutch. He refers to his ethnic make-up as 'Cablinasian' (a portmanteau of Caucasian, Black, American-Indian, and Asian), a term he made up himself.
Suffice it say Mr Earl Woods was a non-white...that should be clear....Tiger Woods's own father was 'certainly not' a "Michael Jordan" or a 'black Sidney Poitier' .....that's for sure.......... | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 10:36:17 AM | | Just off hand, I agree with the OP on his basic premiss. Basically, the old-timer rasists saw any Black blood as contamination so the whole person was typed as “Black” and not the mix that he or she truly was. The same goes for Tigar Woods who is half Asian. Just for fun, I have said to my golfing buddies that Tiger Woods is the best damn player the Asians have! It usually takes a moment to set in and the confused look to disapear. | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 10:36:17 AM | Check the research........there's no empirical evidence around that this exists and in fact, this reference states the LEFT criticizes the notion that it does. And once again you're using that "yyouuuu so CRAZY" defense. That was a citation from wikipedia....attact the source next. What amused me was that the citation stated the exact opposite of what you were claiming you had found a study on. Damnit but that is just *ahem* funny.
But "our entire culture is absolutely obsessed with slavery?" hmmmmmm.....just don't see that reflected in the research. I'd still love to see that study you mentioned in your previous post, tho'. While you're googling........run a search on 'projection.' | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:06:41 AM |
Just off hand, I agree with the OP on his basic premiss. Basically, the old-timer rasists saw any Black blood as contamination so the whole person was typed as “Black” and not the mix that he or she truly was. The same goes for Tigar Woods who is half Asian. Just for fun, I have said to my golfing buddies that Tiger Woods is the best damn player the Asians have! It usually takes a moment to set in and the confused look to disapear.
On the topic of Tiger Woods...
Up until very recentlly the top players on the PGA were white guys. Whites totally dominated golf and this was very apparent for all to see.
The lefty establsihment hated this fact and were very interested in "diversifying" this sport as they are interested in doing in every facet of our culture.
The media bosses have no interest in depicting Tiger for what he is ..Asian-black - white (dutch I believe) They choose to depict him as an "african american"
There are those who say that the pressure for there to be a non-white dominating golf was so great that he had some "help" in being so successful ...that sounds kind of far fetched and I'l leave that to the conpiracy theorists. lol
Regardless of all this , you can see the propensity for whites pseudo self-destructivenss by their often very enthusiastic celeberation of the fact that they have been dominated in yet another small way : golf. | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:13:42 AM |
There are those who say that the pressure for there to be a non-white dominating golf was so great that he had some "help" in being so successful ...that sounds kind of far fetched and I'l leave that to the conpiracy theorists. lol
Not far-fetched. Bionics are real. | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:17:59 AM | There are those who say that the pressure for there to be a non-white dominating golf was so great that he had some "help" in being so successful ...that sounds kind of far fetched and I'l leave that to the conpiracy theorists. lol
Not far-fetched. Bionics are real.
Maybe??? LOL
Actually , there are those who say that top contenders in a tournament have an almost inexplicable propensity for falling apart to "the tiger" by missing key short putts and at other critical points in any given tourney.Also , it has been claimed that he is using an illegal golf ball that gives him more distance....
but , like I said , I'll leave that to the conspirists and I think he is a very good player at the very least.
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:26:56 AM | wow- thats one angry person!
oh BTW- i'm part asian too and Canadian.
As for Mc CAIN(not McCann) he was born on a u.s. military base; which counts as american soil. look that up smartie! | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:28:44 AM |
I am the world's smartest man, and I am African and not happened to be,nothing.
I'm a little disappointed. I would have hoped that the world's smartest man would be capable of proper punctuation and know the difference between "compliment" and "complement'.
I guess it doesn't take much these days to consider oneself the world's smartest man. | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:29:47 AM |
TIGER WOODS DO NOT KNOW WHO THE **** HE IS. HIS DADDY TAUGHT HIM GOLF, NOT AFRICAN HISTORY.
IT IS ONLY WE AFRICANS WHO ARE PROUD OF OUR RACIST, PIG ANCESTRY.
I AM NOT. I DO NOT EVEN HAVE YOUR ****ING NAME.
I AM NO WOODS. I AM YEMHATPE.
Ok YEMHHATPE , but , more importantly , it's time for tea ! .....would you fancy Orange Pekoe or Earl Gray ? | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:46:02 AM |
Check the research........there's no empirical evidence around that this exists and in fact, this reference states the LEFT criticizes the notion that it does. And once again you're using that "yyouuuu so CRAZY" defense. That was a citation from wikipedia....attact the source next.
Asserting that there is not a extremely apparent and prevalent white guilt condition in our society would be akin to a "don't believe your lying eyes" mentality.
Liberals tend to skew reality to meet their "needs" :
http://www.conservapedia.com/Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia
The following is a growing list of examples of liberal bias, deceit, silly gossip, and blatant errors on Wikipedia.
So....apartheid came about in order to protect the black population in South Africa from black commies....
k. gotcha.
Liberals like to marginalise ideas they don't approve of in varying ways...
Since the entire human race STARTED in Africa, we are all related to Africans.
Time to get over that little fact, and move on.
That is one THEORY , and a very politically charged one at that .
Don't try to make a theory into a fact , that's very bad science. | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:48:38 AM | Since the entire human race STARTED in Africa, we are all related to Africans.
Time to get over that little fact, and move on. | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:53:34 AM | | I was over that when I first heard it. I really dont think people care where we came from, its where we are today and where we are going.It doesnt look good. | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 11:55:33 AM |
Liberals like to marginalise ideas they don't approve of in varying ways...
ha ha. You are right, I disapprove of racist apologetics for things like apartheid....particularly when they masquerade as informed opinion. | |
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| Are U.S. America Racists White Losers?
Posted: 6/6/2008 12:28:43 PM | Really, nomad? I must have skipped over the "informed" part of the masque. Where was that?
You don't mean the conservapedia citation, do you? Lots of shut-ins make that mistake. Conservapedia is a massive online multi-player role playing game in which idle Lefties earn points (and respect!) by writing the most extreme, paranoid, and fantastic parodies of fringe Aryan christofascism. It's as if The Colbert Report were force fed oxycontin and sodomy and chained to a Windows ME machine. My favorite item there (I wish I could take credit for it!) is a Sunday School-style watercolor of Aryan Jesus riding a dinosaur. Sidesaddle! With another lizard on his lap!
You can see how some mixed-up souls could mistake it for a source of information. In fact, there appear to be a lot of them. According to encyclopediadramatica, "The top ten most looked at [conservapedia]pages (aside from the front page) all have to do with gayness, the mechanics of gay sex, common health problems that arise from gay sex, and the best way to stay in the closet for the rest of your sad little life." So, yes, self-styled "conservatives" do visit the site, for personal reasons. They may even contribute here and there, though I can't tell the difference.
Cheers!
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 1:30:59 PM | Pushinskaya,
If you hate America so much you are free to leave.We have enough angry native born people,we don't need angry immigrants. | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/6/2008 9:43:39 PM | Flowleft, all we can do is start taking a more active role in politics. I do believe you hit the nail on the head with :
and i'll take it a step further and say, that there are "those who control the money" and hold the power have a desire to see people of different religions and cultures/races continue to distrust and fight amongst each other. that way no has time to see the bigger picture of what's really going on. it's like being stuck in a pile of crap and blaming the person standing next to you, even though he's in the same crap that you are, instead of seeing who really has us in the crap in the first place.
This is the main reason why I say governments ruin people, people left to themselves are not that much different one to another. The news telecast also plays a very large roll.
No I have not seen: Zeitgeist, but I have read other places that discuss the topic in regard to The real Power and it is very scary because like you say if it's real, it is too late. | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/7/2008 7:14:08 AM | Pushin (and a few others)
you are a walking, talking example of my point that non-whites like Colin Powell,
Mariah Carey, Halle Berry, Tiger Woods, Vin Diesel, HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON
with YOU, a truly black man...
Amazingly stupid stuff
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/7/2008 8:28:04 AM | Pushinskaya,
When the Portuguese faggots and **stards came to my Mother Land, the "fun" began with Africans and became ugly. Ugly as DEMONICwhite sin, and we are still reeling from the shock and after-shock OF THIS MODERN DAY SLAVERY.
Did you mean when the Portuguese came, to enslave Africans, with the help of other Africans?
I guess I was surprised that anyone over the age of 18 and out of the public school system still believes in the concept of an "evil" race. It seems to me, that the Human Race is not lacking for peoples or societies of all ethincities that have practiced Homocide, Genocide, and Slavery against their own peoples as well as others since time in memorium.
The beauty of USA is that we can Scream at our Demons... | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/7/2008 1:25:37 PM |
with the help of other Africans?
Alot of people choose to ignore that part, make excuses for it or either they actually find that part exceptable for some reason. | |
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| Is U.S.America Rasist? Obama is White
Posted: 6/7/2008 1:43:21 PM | ^^^ This is a red herrring. Most civilizations have at one time or another had slavery, including slave trading. But the fact of American slavery and its legacy is not mitigated by the fact that SOME Africans were also involved in the trade. Few people will try to argue that in the period of the European trade in African slaves, all white slavers were "bad" and all Africans "good"....but what that has to do with the legacy of slavery in THIS country is beyond me. In a society in which a large part of its economy is BUILT on slavery in such a way as to make it an integral part (real or imagined) of that society's survival....and WHERE SLAVES are distinctively one color (imagined as a sort of OPPOSITE from the color of their owners and most other FREE peoples in that society, and enshrined in both pseudo-science and popular religion), that is BOUND to produce a very distinct kind of intellectual and cultural legacy in THAT country....which has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not Africans were involved in PART of the trade in African slaves.
Nevertheless, it isn't difficult to find sources expressing the dismay and even horror of African leaders when white traders began quickly, once the trade was established and proved to be so incredibly lucrative, circumventing the legal trade in Africans, kidnapping free men in their countries, etc . --and the criminal activity of Africans who kidnapped free men and women on behalf of white slave traders is, in any moral sense, a non-issue in this discussion. And I have trouble figuring out what the agenda is of people who raise this "but Africans did it too" issue--unless they are attempting to suggest that there wasn't really anything WRONG with the American slave culture--or for that matter, the means by which European traders transported these people across the Atlantic, which exceeds in barbarity pretty much anything that I (at least) have ever heard of when it comes to the systematic treatment of enslaved peoples in any other civilization.... | |
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| Are U.S.America Racists White?
Posted: 6/7/2008 1:55:05 PM | They aren't thinking as hard (or as effectively) as you are, nomad. They conceive a quantity of blame, so that any blame shouldered by them is that much less blame for us. So that, if I shoot someone, of course I am to blame. But, if you also shoot someone, then we share the blame for shooting people and my burden of shame is eased by half. Or, if you are not perfect, then I don't have to be good.
Or, in the vernacular, "But Mikey did it too!"
It's like reasoning with mud sometimes, isn't it?
Cheers!
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| Are U.S.America Racists White?
Posted: 6/7/2008 4:41:33 PM | | Actually, I conceive no blame for slavery and I feel zero guilt. As for your shooting example, I do not see you as half the blame for the two shootings. I would see both of you 100% to blame. I see white people and Africans( of the past) 100% to blame for slavery. | |
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| Are U.S.America Racists White?
Posted: 6/7/2008 6:35:49 PM | Equivocate however you like, jas. The point you want to imply is still false. Frankly, I suspect you know that and are too ashamed to say it plainly.
(BTW, what you feel doesn't matter to anyone who doesn't know you personally. Even then, maybe not. To everyone else, you are what you do, and nothing else, you know?)
Anyway, since analogy wasn't clear, I'll do this in your own terms. You say
I see white people and Africans( of the past) 100% to blame for slavery.
skating gaily over the enormous differences as if there are none. To say the same thing with some attention to accuracy, you might say "an entire white economy of millions and a few unscrupulous black raiders paid by those white people."
You really can't deny proportion whenever you find it inconvenient. You can't push aside the facts that make nonsense of your preferences. I mean, of course you can, but sooner or later you'll realize it never fools anyone who doesn't want to be fooled.
I'm sorry, but there it is.
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