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 a bit nomadic

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Posted: 6/14/2008 2:48:04 PM

AMAZING...We wont vote for OBAMA because HE IS THE RACIST!! Not us. The Democrates wont vote for Obama BECAUSE HES A SOCIALIST/MARXIST. It has nothing to do with race.

This "change" he talks about will send us all spiriling down into poverty. Paying 50% or more of your hard earned dollars in taxes to support his SOCIALIST AGENDA.

He has NO EXPERIECE!! I vote no....No on the job training. Dumb idea.

NO THANKS NO THANKS NO THANKS NO THANKS NO THANKS NO THANKS!!!

And by the way....someone called us and extremely racist country. ARE YOU KIDDING. We have done more for all races here in America than ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

I dont appreciate you saying bad things about this wonderful kind and giving nation. We help everyone. If you cant see that...then you need to open your eyes.

Every country we have gone into with our military, we do for humane reasons and when we leave...we leave it better than when we came. a true fact. Read your history. Or you can run around bad mouthing this great nation while you live here and enjoy the great opportunities.

Hey..I got a great idea....why dont you move to Africa where there are no racists and people are so good to each other. They also have no arms, hands, legs, or whatever part got lopped off because some Muslim African was having a little fun. Read about it. Its all in writting.

If your voting for Obama....please google his voting record and then I want you to think about what you are about to do to your children and mine. Bad move to vote for a racist man like this. Yes...some blacks are racists too. Not just whites. Im so tired of all that crap I could scream.

In my religion....we are supposed to love all peoples. No matter what race. God created them. All.


I swear to God, I've read this now three times, and I'm still not sure whether it's meant to be serious, or is completely tongue in cheek.
 Jake52177

Joined: 12/18/2007
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Posted: 6/14/2008 2:57:35 PM
I feel if america upgrades it's education system and really holds it's self accountable we can elect the right person for president. This all started out as the Hillary Clinton Show. It would be Hillary against a lame duck republican. Now that the show has been canceled it's lets beatdown the man that truly one.(She still hasn't hit 2025). People are tired of race it's only a problem with the hillary democrats. (just the blind ones) That word electability is very demeaning. I am know unemployed and living in ny its a rough economy. I want the person who is going to help my future. Water on Mars who cares I can't drive my car.
 anti-idiotarian

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Posted: 6/14/2008 3:09:25 PM
Liberals are always obsessed with race and victimology. They feel terrible when convicted killers get the death penalty, but have no such qualms about innocent babies delivered live at birth, having their skulls pierced and brains vacuumed out.


Why do blacks even buy into the culture of dependency? Why is Urkel Obamalamadingdong considered black? His mom was white- that makes him 50% white. His abandoning father with multiple wives has a birth certificate that lists him as Arab. Obambi is 1/16 black and 7/16 Arab. Barry Hussein has oodles of friends he owes favors to for his rise to power. He uses duplicity and underhanded tactics to get his opponents to withdraw from races against him. He is a product of crooked chicago machine politics. The unrepenetant terrorists Ayers and Dohrn are his good buddies as was Rev. (Whites have blacks HIV and G*d D*mn America) Wright and other looney prechers. Then there is convicted fixer/crook Rezno and other scumwads like Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam and the New Black Panther party. Barry doesn't want you pointing any of these things out. He wants to control your lives and usher us to a new Marxist world as Jimmy Carter II. Of course millions of you have partaken of the kool-aid and won't question anything about your idol the obamamessiah. Dipwads like Olberdouche and Chrissie (I squat to p*e) get sexually aroused by BHO and others in media are taken by the sight of his crotch in tight jeans. Where's the common sense. So blacks, latte liberals and students adore the empty suit. Millions felt the same way about Adolf Hitler. Seig Heil! Change! Hope! Fresh fruit for Michelle's kids.
This twerp has little experience at all, has not worked with the other side of the aisle at all on any issues, wants to raise taxes, wants more control over business, is a pacifist as far as confronting the enemies of civilization, etc. He stumbles and bungles his words when not in front of a teleprompter. The original poster is really knowledgeable about these things. Like many here he goes beyond mere typos and shows the state of education in this country today.... "rasist"? Yes, phonetic spelling be da way to go fer sure. Umgawah. Bill Cosby has it right about people lacking self-respect. Let the gummint take care of you forever and don't make an effort to help yourself. I don't know who is worse- the luap nor paultards or the Urkel obamatards.
 anti-idiotarian

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Posted: 6/14/2008 3:23:43 PM
what a joke! Obamalamadingdong stays in a venomous hate whitey black supremacist church for twenty years, sitting there with his kids and you really think he will heal racial divisions? You people are completely clueless. He's all talk and you read into his hope and change BS to make it mean whatever you personally want it to mean.

I know the media, the liberal academia, most all blacks and Hollywood absolutely adore this joke of a messiah, but I truly hope the rest of America sees him for what he is. ..a dangerous man with little experience and some really stupid ideas about government and foreign policy. I, for one, don't give a rat's asp what the UN or Euroweenies think of America and don't feel any desire to sacrifice anything to garner their goodwill. Barry Hussein wants us to use less of everything while other limo libs like him do just what they please with their millions. When are the hypocrites going to follow their own advice about the bogus goracle AGW? Obambi, Lurch and the Breck Girl live the high life and the sheeple actually buy into it? Too funny. Suckers everywhere.
 flyguy51

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Posted: 6/14/2008 3:38:14 PM
I'm still not sure whether it's meant to be serious, or is completely tongue in cheek.

Yeah, the first few sentences sounded pretty satirical, but then... no such luck.

Only in America, with its history of race-based slavery, segregation, and prejudice, can a member of the marginalized group ascend to the nomination for the country's highest office, only to find accusations of him being a racist bigot. I find solace in that this election will be largely decided by young voters who tend to be more open-minded.

"Yeah, I'm opposing Obama because... because he's the racist. Yeah, that's the ticket..."
 uninterested

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Posted: 6/14/2008 3:46:23 PM

I'm still not sure whether it's meant to be serious, or is completely tongue in cheek.


I'm putting my money on "tongue in cheek".
 flyonthewall!

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Posted: 6/14/2008 5:01:03 PM

I find solace in that this election will be largely decided by young voters who tend to be more open-minded.


How's that? The population of people 45 and above outnumbers the population between 18 and 44, and if anything, older people vote in larger numbers than younger people.
 printer2

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Posted: 6/14/2008 5:11:03 PM
Could we all agree that he is black on the outside, white on the inside. That way we can all hug and go home.
 lateef7842

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Posted: 6/14/2008 5:32:41 PM
My God is there anywhere I can go and have an honest discussion on politics and race without it devolving into a "liberals vs. conservatives" or a " black this and whites that" kind of thing? Aren't we all Americans?

The OP asked a legitimate question on why O8ama was regarded as black and not white. Nothing wrong there. All of a sudden people start with the "liberal agenda" argument and the who's more racist whites or blacks? Come on people. Are you so hell bent on making a political point that you can't stay on topic?

If you must bring up issues like that, you should take the time to realize we are all in the same boat fighting the same war. We are all citizens of the U.S.A. There is no such thing as all the liberals have the right answers or all the conservatives have the wrong answers. There should be no us verses them within our own boarders. We have to work together and compromise, as Americans, to find the answers to our (and I emphasize "our") problems as a nation. Black, white, liberal, conservative, Christian, atheist and every American in between. No one group has all the answers or shoulders all the blame.

Quit trying to prove a point and comment on the OP's original question. Give it a rest.

I am Lateef and I approve this comment.
 shieldvulf

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Posted: 6/14/2008 6:00:52 PM
What's that line Robin Williams delivers in Good Morning Vietnam?"

"I never met a white man more in need of a blow job!"

That's what makes a cliche, isn't it? It keeps turning up true!

Can we agree that OPie is a racist simply because the Senator's race matters to him? (Oh, OPie ain't that white man. You know that, right?)

I have more to say, but we're celebrating our millionth abortion down at the drive-thru clinic tomorrow. I haven't made the bloodcake yet, there are the bibles to be ground up for the devil loaf, and my duped minorities - Pablo, Carlos, Rastus, and Mohammed - have a line on some boarding school girls we can expose to sparkle lip gloss and fundamental equality.

We're mixing Coke and Pepsi together, Baby! You can't tell what it is!

BwahuahuahuahhahahahaHAH!

Vulf
 flyguy51

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Posted: 6/14/2008 6:26:14 PM

if anything, older people vote in larger numbers than younger people.

That's just it. This isn't going to be your average election.
 flyonthewall!

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Posted: 6/14/2008 7:42:22 PM
I don't understand. How are you going to manufacture a larger young population? Even if the young vote in record numbers, the older generation will do the same. Therefore more older voters will vote than younger, because there are MORE of them.

Your comment just doesn't compute.
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 6/14/2008 7:59:59 PM
Well, let's look at the LAST election, and get a general sketch of then.


VOTE BY AGE
18-29 (17%)
30-44 (29%)
45-59 (30%)
60 and Older (24%)

VOTE BY RACE
White (77%)
African-American (11%)
Latino (8%)
Asian (2%)
Other (2%)

VOTE BY RACE AND GENDER
White Men (36%)
White Women (41%)
Non-White Men (10%)
Non-White Women (12%)

VOTE BY INCOME
Under $15,000 (8%)
$15-30,000 (15%)
$30-50,000 (22%)
$50-75,000 (23%)
$75-100,000 (14%)
$100-150,000 (11%)
$150-200,000 (4%)
$200,000 or More (3%)

VOTE BY PARTY ID
Democrat (37%)
Republican (37%)
Independent (26%)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/
results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html


Now that was obviously registered voters, in a much less "interesting" election.


How are you going to manufacture a larger young population?


If we look at the primary seasons, Republican and Democrat, we can note some changes.


Democrats Registering In Record Numbers
1 Million New Voters For Last 7 Primaries

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/04/27/
ST2008042702368.html?hpid=topnews


There's been a record amount of interest amongst the young, especially amongst young Democrats, who flocked to primaries all over the country. This "Facebook" generation is VERY into this election - a far different cry from past elections.

I think we can also safely predict an increase in African-American voters, without going to far out on a limb.

So, against your contention of disdain, I suggest we may just see a significant number of voters that were absent in the past swelling the ranks of the voting population. In an election that may indeed be a close one, that could push an Obama victory far more easily than a McCain one into a higher probability.

Unlike the last election , the Republican party is in disarray - by it's own admission. It's lost Congressional election after Congressional election - non-stop. This time, it's for the ultimate prize, and it would make little sense for this pattern to reverse itself and turn 180 degrees.

In other words ?

When you see President Obama at one of those White House shindigs ?

Say hi, from me.
 Vyper®

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Posted: 6/14/2008 9:15:50 PM
Ya know ...

I wish I could vote MG for President! he is ALWAYS so "right on point" and every bit as lucid and "thorough" with his posts! He is clearly a very-learned man, yet he is affable enough that those less learned feel comfortable engaging him in conversation. But, for those foolish enough to challenge his assertions without doing their homework beforehand ... WHEW!! I feel sorry FOR them!


This is an interesting thread here, in that it seems to have attracted a "larger-than-normal" number of racists and ignorants out to attack Obama on all matters non-political. I think the most interesting observation I've made is that there seems to be very little pro-McCain, pro-Hillary, pro-patriotism, pro-Paul, or any of the other "pro's" (with the notable exception of my old pal Insolent over there with his "Liberation Ideology ... " crap that he tosses all over these forums -- you're too funny, man! But I love your contributions anyway and would feel at a loss without them. ). Nope. Very few pros to be found here so far; just anti-Obamas.

Well, good luck, all you guys. Vote with your hearts and minds come November.

One thing for certain, only one of the remaining candidates will be standing come January. Best of luck to you, for those of us who have guessed wrong will almost undoubtedly get laughed at.


By the way ...!

Keep up the great work, Vulf! You gotta stay on that "Troother" (what an ironic name ) guy.
 surethyng

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Posted: 6/14/2008 10:44:21 PM
obama identifies himself as black , he works for the interest of blacks.That is perfectly natural.


whites are so guilt ridden and confused they can not stand up for themselves.That is unnatural , but it is slowly changing, as whites become more aware.
 Vyper®

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Posted: 6/15/2008 12:40:54 AM
obama identifies himself as black , he works for the interest of blacks.That is perfectly natural.



whites are so guilt ridden and confused they can not stand up for themselves.That is unnatural , but it is slowly changing, as whites become more aware.


That is also perfectly inaccurate! So I hope that the inaccuracy of that former claim is one of the things "whites become more aware" of during the "slow change" referenced in the latter.

Obama works for the interests of his constituents; pretty much like any other politician. But, of course, if anyone bothers to do any independent research, they'd find that out for themselves, rather than from me. Sadly, though, it seems masses of us would just prefer to accept -- as the gospel truth -- the propaganda and lies spread by those who would prefer to see us shielded from the truth.

Still ... just for the sake of completeness and for providing example to the lazy or skeptical among us, LOL, here is a sampling of his SPONSORED bills:

S.115 : A bill to suspend royalty relief, to repeal certain provisions of the Energy Policy Act of 2005, and to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal certain tax incentives for the oil and gas industry.

S.116 : A bill to authorize resources to provide students with opportunities for summer learning through summer learning grants.

S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.

S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.

S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

S.674 : A bill to require accountability and enhanced congressional oversight for personnel performing private security functions under Federal contracts, and for other purposes.

S.692 : A bill to amend title 38, United States Code, to establish a Hospital Quality Report Card Initiative to report on health care quality in Veterans Affairs hospitals.

S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.

S.767 : A bill to increase fuel economy standards for automobiles and for other purposes.

S.1084 : A bill to provide housing assistance for very low-income veterans.

S.1181 : A bill to amend the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 to provide shareholders with an advisory vote on executive compensation.

S.1324 : A bill to amend the Clean Air Act to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from transportation fuel sold in the United States.

S.1885 : A bill to provide certain employment protections for family members who are caring for members of the Armed Forces recovering from illnesses and injuries incurred on active duty.

S.2330 : A bill to authorize a pilot program within the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development with the goal of preventing at-risk veterans and veteran families from falling into homelessness

S.3077 : A bill to strengthen transparency and accountability in Federal spending.

S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.

S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.



Don't let one candidate tell you what another supports or doesn't. Find out for yourself.
 flyonthewall!

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Posted: 6/15/2008 6:33:23 AM

So, against your contention of disdain, I suggest we may just see a significant number of voters that were absent in the past swelling the ranks of the voting population. In an election that may indeed be a close one, that could push an Obama victory far more easily than a McCain one into a higher probability.


We are going to see a higher voter turn out of ALL persuasions. No argument from here that blacks will turn out in high numbers to vote for Obama, and despite other contentions I don't think there will be enough rednecks, skinheads and other racists voting against him to wipe out that vote.

Obama isn't going to lose because of racism, he's going to lose because he won't be able to get enough of the Hillary supporters to vote for him, because there will be enough people turned off by his long term associations and lack of political experience.

Obama is only leading Hillary Clinton by a few hundred thousand votes in the primaries, and he would need to get virtually ALL of her supporters plus some Republicans to vote for him in order to win. It would only take 5 percent of Hillary supporters staying home, not voting for President at all (but voting for other candidates), or voting for McCain for him to lose.

Currently around a third to half of Clinton supporters say they won't vote for Obama. No doubt he'll get some of them to change their minds over the next five months, but he won't get enough of them.

And, I'll say hi to President McCain at the inauguration for you!
 kzbill

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Posted: 6/15/2008 6:51:31 AM
Sounds like too much TV news to me. It takes actual work to educate yourself on the issues and stances of the candidates.
 jasman123

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Posted: 6/15/2008 2:37:31 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080615/ap_on_el_pr/obama


CHICAGO - Barack Obama celebrated Father's Day by calling on black fathers, who he said are "missing from too many lives and too many homes," to become active in raising their children.
"They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it," the Democratic presidential candidate said Sunday at a largely black church in his hometown
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To liberals,this is one thing white people say about black people and we get called racist. Now that a black man who is half white, and your hero says it, how do you feel ?
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 6/15/2008 2:59:15 PM

To liberals,this is one thing white people say about black people and we get called racist. Now that a black man who is half white, and your hero says it, how do you feel ?


Maybe white guys need to listen to it too, ever think of that ?

This isn't just a "black" problem, you know ? It's a human problem. How many kids today have absent fathers, of every race. for various reasons - even one's in the same home ?
 jasman123

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Posted: 6/15/2008 3:08:32 PM

This isn't just a "black" problem, you know ? It's a human problem. How many kids today have absent fathers, of every race. for various reasons - even one's in the same home ?

You telling me or Obama? You dont have to tell me. I know white men can be losers. I dont deny it. Why did you not quote anything obama said and come back with the same reply. Is it because he is half black and you are a liberal, you konw, its fathers day and you dont want to offend your daddy. Are you afraid to remark about something a blck man says? Does the truth hurt you? It does comming from a white women. Thats why you responded to what I said and not Obama. Busted.
 forum_moderator

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Posted: 6/15/2008 3:12:44 PM

*-Get back on topic and address it not each other. Busted- TheMadFiddler-*
 teachpeace

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Posted: 6/15/2008 3:42:27 PM
Some of us that had to spend about a squillion hours researching single parent families might remember the racial disparity in 'fatherhood' numbers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0419185720070614
More than 19 million children -- about one in four -- were living in households where no father, biological or other, was present, according to a Census Bureau report in 2005.

The statistics also show that this burden falls more heavily on black children. Some 56 percent of black children lived in single-parent families in 2004, with most of those families headed by mothers. That figure compared with 22 percent of white children and 31 percent of Hispanic children.

"Father absence in the African American communities, across America, has hit those communities with the force of 100 hurricane Katrinas," said Phillip Jackson, executive director of the Chicago-based Black Star Project, which helps children in mainly minority schools....."
What Obama is doing constitutes issuing a call to maturity directed explicitly toward Black men on the basis of this demographic trend which has been in place for a number of decades now. As to etiology, we've argued the disparity in terms of how we more readily incarcerate people of colour contributes to this problem, just for starters. Anyway you look at it, it's a legitimate problem for the Black community and Black leaders have been addressing this for decades. I would suggest that when a Black leader does this, it is not racism. When I write about it, it's not racism either.
 they_killed_kenny

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Posted: 6/15/2008 4:11:25 PM
Of course the USA is racist, but more importantly the USA is classist/elitist.
 spearheadfish

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Posted: 6/16/2008 6:40:42 AM
so which black church was he in when he called for all this maturity about fatherhood?Was it the church he turned his back on for sake of popularity votes because his pastor of 20 yrs kept the true rasicm under wraps until presented with his chance to blow the cover on national tv while showing support for a member of his church and who had been a member for 20 yrs?Is this what the obama camp is reduced down to now-a collection of ppl for the covering up of all negative implications against obama cause we want him in office at all cost even though the negative comes from his wife and pastor?Who cares if he is white or black or red or purple ?I know I don't but I do care about him professing christianity and walking away from a church that he has had no problem being involved with until the truth of it came out.I care about his attempts to control more of our money by claiming to make it easier for all if more of our info is given to the irs for all future returns-pls who r u kidding with this?I care about his involvement with bullying someone like liberman on the senate floor because he disagrees and has spoken out about it.I care that he is involved with folks like kerry who is a known flipflopper for popularity sake.I care that his own wife spewed racial remarks about america and s now attempting to cover this up by being at an elderly folks home claiming they have so much in common with the american family by saying that their childrens grandmother does the same things they do in the shadow of claiming we hated her or caused her so much pain because of our racial hate?Flipflopping gone awry.I care that his camp has found it necessary to erect a web site just for the denying of all these things and more.
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