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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 4:50:32 AM |
Because Condoleeza Rices puts a high price on loyalty, she provided unwavering devotion to President George W Bush and for that, she is mocked by a nation that has lost the character quality of loyalty due to self centered greed.
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 7:58:58 AM | Thanks Nona - I do think we are on a similar page, although I can't say I'm committed to McCain. Keeping an open mind on what both candidates have to say.
Despite what Obama thinks (and he has the luxury of thinking this way because of his inexperience) one does have to play the game in Washington to get things done. I think Rice manoeuvered very well among the more powerful idiocracy in the Bush administration, got the prez's ear and managed to accomplish a few things while she had it. An incredible achievement for anyone, but a black woman? I wouldn't discount her abilities quite so quickly. | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 8:05:04 AM | | no matter who was running on the repubican side. i think we had enought of repubicans. lets see why. war in iraq. fuel 4 dollars a gallon. bugging are phones.if repubicans had it there way. they would dig up ronald reagan and let him run. | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 8:45:02 AM | "if repubicans had it there way. they would dig up ronald reagan and let him run".
That's the best one this week! I guess they came as close as they could by nominating McCain.
Everyone thought Bush would never get elected a second time, remember? As I have said before, no one ever won an election by saying "Vote for me, 'cuz I'm not them!" While that will get you a certain amount of frustrated voters, I don't think it is enough to win the election. No substitute for good ideas and the sound administration to see them through. | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 10:07:02 AM | http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?show=localnews&pnpID=724&NewsID=909618&CategoryID=16783&on=1
With friends like these, Obama doesn’t need enemies
During the Republican primaries some liberals had nice things to say about John McCain; enough evidence alone to demonstrate that he is not fit for the job. From his voting record, one would think conservatives already understood this fact. But in a spectacular failure of good judgment they nominated McCain anyway. Praise from those who stand against everything conservatives believe in somehow failed to set off a 10.0 on the Richter Scale of political mistakes.
Bad as he may be, though, McCain pales in comparison to Barack Obama. So let us hope Americans in general do not make the same error this coming November. Let us hope they recognize the alarm bells sounding off against Obama.
Granted, he is intelligent, handsome, and articulate - characteristics his current supporters obviously haven’t bothered to look beyond. But I do not refer to his obvious lack of experience, his “yes, we can” mentality (stark naivety or calculated manipulation of the masses; take your pick), his willingness to essentially grovel before enemy leaders, or even his extreme left-wing, socialist beliefs. I’m referring instead to the people who like him, who want him to be president, and who say so.
Such testimonials for Obama include:
Ahmed Yousef, the Hamas advisor who earlier this year, as reported by WorldNetDaily, said “We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the elections.” He even went on to liken Obama to John Kennedy, claiming he is “a great man with a great principle.” So Obama has the Hamas vote - Hamas, the terrorist organization that can claim, among its many distinctions, anti-Semitism, hate-mongering, and human rights abuses such as blowing up children.
Yousef realizes he has nothing to fear from Obama.
Fidel Castro recently praised Obama for his “great intelligence,” “debating skills” and “work ethic” and wrote that Obama is “the most progressive candidate to the U.S. presidency.” So Obama is the favorite choice of Castro, a Communist dictator that has been responsible for thousands of human rights abuses.
Castro realizes he has nothing to fear from Obama.
Hugo Chavez didn’t exactly endorse Obama when he recently claimed that Venezuela’s relations with Washington would worsen if McCain were elected. “Sometimes one says, ‘worse than Bush is impossible,’ but we don’t know,” Chavez said, according to Reuters. “McCain also seems to be a man of war.” Still, even lacking an outright statement of support, Chavez, the authoritarian communist who has trampled basic rights, severely weakened both Venezuela’s economy and democracy, and helped to destabilize global oil prices, would rather see Obama than McCain in the White House.
Chavez realizes he has nothing to fear from Obama.
Obviously, we do not want the whole world to fear us. But the fate of Saddam as an example of the good U.S. power can do in the world is not lost on those of a like kind, an example Obama clearly isn’t prepared and indeed has no inclination to make of others. He has offered to talk with no preconditions. Like Neville Chamberlain meeting with Hitler, Obama has no idea what he is doing.
Further, beyond support from tyrants and terrorists Obama also receives a thumbs up from:
Rappers like Jay-Z, Ludacris, and Q-tip (“artists” whose lurid, highly sexualized, and sexist lyrics attempt to diminish our humanity and act like a cancer on society).
MoveOn.org (the liberal advocacy group that compared Bush to Hitler, smeared Gen. David Petraeus, and works to forward many inane leftist ideas).
“Ministers” like Jeremiah Wright (who claimed that AIDS was developed by the U.S. government to eradicate African Americans, that the U.S. deserved what happened on 9/11, and whose sermons include calls for God to “damn America” and make lurid, overt sexual references to Bill Clinton treating African Americans just like he treated Monica Lewinsky).
Of course, McCain has also received praise from people he would rather not associate with. But although the rappers, MoveOn.org and Wright are telling indicators against Obama the real concern is the terrorists and dictators who want to see him become president. McCain hasn’t had that problem.
The question boils down to this: do we want someone in the White House that the bad guys of the world fear or do we want someone there that the Hamas’, Castro’s, and Chavez’s of the world openly support? A rhetorical question for those that haven’t yet bothered to peer beyond the handsome, the smooth, and wholly inadequate would-be president Barack Obama. | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 11:18:07 AM | I'm going to burn in hell for this statement....I"m stating this as one of those people who would build a "shrine" to Ronald Reagan, however I'm not a Republican...what is the difference from placing his dead body at a conference table? He always slept through the meetings anyways!!!!!
I'm now going to go and pray for forgiveness. | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 1:22:33 PM |
If Senator Obama chooses Clinton, I believe he will win. Without her, McCain, I believe will win. In this election, the true battle will become the battle of the VP,s. Alarming, really
Obama will never choose Hillary. (For one, Michele hates Hillary.) And I dont think Hillary would accept now. Not After Obama slapped her in the face by appointing Hillary's former campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle, to his own White House campaign.
Patti Solis Doyle, who was ousted from the faltering Clinton campaign in February, will be chief of staff to Obama's eventual pick as vice presidential nominee.
Some say this was for unity. Id say it was telling Hillary she was not the one. If Obama did this out of 'unity', after Clinton fired her campaign manager weeks ago, he must be the dumbest politician on the face of the earth if he did not understand it would drive her 20-MILLION supporters even closer to McCain.
Obama's managers hate Clinton so much THEY will be the downfall of his campaign. | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 2:17:18 PM | ^^Good lord you make it sound like Young and the Restless.
How would you know if Michelle hates Hillary? Don't you think Doyle needed a job and Hillary knows she needed a job?
Patti Solis Doyle, who was ousted from the faltering Clinton campaign in February, will be chief of staff to Obama's eventual pick as vice presidential nominee. If Obama did this out of 'unity', after Clinton fired her campaign manager weeks ago, he must be the dumbest politician on the face of the earth if he did not understand it would drive her 20-MILLION supporters even closer to McCain And.....we care that Obama hired Hillary's out of work campaign manager....why???? Because we're petty and bitter? Or are we adults moving on? | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 2:20:22 PM |
The slamming of Rice here has nothing to do with her abilities or credentials, if you notice White Liberals will slam any black person who is not a liberal. It's political!
Ugh. Yes, we really hate Colin Powell, don't we?
(Oh yes...that's right....he'll be endorsing Obama soon....does that make him a democrat now? tee hee! I guess it does! Nevermind!) | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 2:40:25 PM | I don't think that Powell is going to endorse anyone:
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell Thinking Of Voting For Obama
June 16, 2008, Washington, D.C. (AHN) - Former Secretary of State Colin Powell is considering voting for Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) in the general election, according to the Globe and Mail.
Powell has refused to endorse anyone the presidential race but made statements favorable of Obama in March, when he praised the junior Illinois senator's speech on race and "ability to organize a task" despite having little experience running a presidential campaign.
The rest is here:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7011285831 | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 2:44:36 PM |
The slamming of Rice here has nothing to do with her abilities or credentials, if you notice White Liberals will slam any black person who is not a liberal. It's political!
Now it's white liberals! ~ good grief ~ !
nobody is slamming any one ~ ~ ! I like Rice ~ with red beans ~ ~ really I think she pretty and ~ and I think she ~ like most of us ~ Knows which side her bread is buttered on. But!!
can't we get beyond the picture on the cereal box ~ ? ~ Here ! let me look at it ! ~ you stared at it enough!
We were singing Ms. Rice praises and I simply wanted to know what was the occasion!
She bright ~ and they needed someone that was very bright and loyal enough to not tell~ ~ I'll leave it there!
Let the "real" show begin?
~ Okay ~ Okay ~ for all you whities and darkies and you "liberals" and you neocons ~ and you right winger and christian righter and bible thumpers ~ are you ready? ~ Have I "not" pissed everyone off yet? ~ I know I missed somebody ~ ?? ~ dripping liberal and commies ~ tree huggers and ~
Don't you just anticipate ~ me saying something very dumb ~ with such a wind up?
Hmm, ~ Here is whats happening ~ as I see it! ~ If you have been a supporter of the current adminstration ~ Take great joy in Saddams death ~ Believe that things a better for it and that ~ Geo. and company has treated all Americans with their interest at heart ~ has told the truth as he knew it to be ~ has represented the facts clearly and without consideration to special interest. ~ If you think he has been an effective leader/commander and chief and has offered this nation a sound and solid direction and a course to continue ~~ McCain is your man.
If you don't agree with the above ~ there is only one other choise ~
It's one or the other ~ there is no end- between ~ regardless of the VP slot. ~
I personally don't see a choise at all ~ and the thought that you do ~ scare the hell out of me! ~ In the end we'll get what we deserve to have ~ we do boast ~ of being a free people to determine our future. ~
Some of us are enjoying the "present" is my only conclusion ~ Dance | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 4:29:53 PM | Colin stating he would vote for Obama is a silent endorsement. Before Carter came out and endorsed Obama, he stated he would not say who he would endorse, but his grandchildren encouraged him to support Obama.
On the Lou Dobbs show today (CNN) Independents are the ones that will once again swing this election.
45%/45% both candidates. The prefer McCain, but dislike the republican party and would like change.
I am proud to be in that number!!
Faith Independent and proud.
Say it loud Independent and proud, say it say it say it Say it loud Independent and proud.
Independents make the world go around.
What the world needs now is Independents sweet independents. There the only ones that can think so freely.
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 5:39:27 PM | http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=298595112205121
Obama's Red Roots By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Election '08: The word is that Barack Obama is a mainstream politician who sometimes attracts fringe leftists. The record tells a different story — that he has sought out radicals. What does that say of his agenda?
It's natural to be skeptical of excessive claims about Obama's radical associations. After all, there are so many. But one bears attention — because it helped him get his start in politics. In 1996, he won an Illinois state senate seat on a "fusion" ticket of the Democratic Party and leftist group called the "New Party."
The New Party, founded in 1992 with 7,000 members at its peak, had been an explicitly anti-capitalist party of ex-Communists, socialists and activists from ACORN, the hard-left group that's constantly in trouble over voter fraud. The New Party didn't ask for Obama's association; he asked for the New Party's endorsement.
Blogger Rick Moran of the American Thinker has found disturbing particulars. First, the New Party didn't give its support and campaign volunteers to just anyone. Obama actually had to audition for it. According to a September-October 1995 update on the New Party-aligned Chicago Democratic Socialists of America Web site:
"About 50 activists attended the Chicago New Party membership meeting in July. The purpose of the meeting was to . . . to hear appeals for NP support from four potential political candidates."
Anyone wanting a New Party endorsement had to "be approved via a NP political committee. Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP," the Web site said.
So Obama signed on with this group and now remains in its debt.
That raises questions about what was in the New Party platform that drew in Obama. Maybe its own statements saying it was formed "to break the stranglehold that corporate money and corporate media have over the political process."
Sound familiar? One of the few things Obama reveals in his vague "change" agenda are plans to punish corporations. He rails against "corporate profits" and even worked in a condemnation of them in his first defense of Rev. Jeremiah Wright. So there's little doubt he shares a lot of what the New Party believes.
The New Party also has advocated a bill of rights for children, a shorter work week, a universal "social" wage and military spending cuts. These will undermine parental rights, lower competitiveness, lard up welfare and make the U.S. less secure. All are echoed in Obama's proposals. They are the hardest battle cries of the left.
Obama should come clean on why he sought these radicals' support and, better still, disclose just how he intends to pay them back. | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 6:23:22 PM | It's natural to be skeptical of excessive claims about Obama's radical associations.
I think I have heard it all now! ~ so till November you plan to do this ?
Obama should come clean on why he sought these radicals' support and, better still, disclose just how he intends to pay them back
I did ! I ask him about this ! ~ He said, he would be most happy too when McCain explains his ~ from the beginning ` ~ That includes all Linclon Saving and Loan senior depositers contributions ~ and get away trips to the Caribbean with the family , courtesy of Mr. Keating.
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 6:51:25 PM | Dance,
People are really scared of Obama. He came out of nowhere and is doing so well. In most people's mind there has to be something wrong. No one is sqeeky clean. This is going to continue. It is fear. If you remember it was stated that MLK and JFK had mistresses. This is not going to stop.
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 7:03:08 PM | Not all of those who dislike Obama are scared of him, faith, nor do we all believe him to be some underground Muslim terrorist on a mission. Science fiction has no place in Washington. There are many reasons that I dislike him as a candidate and they are soundly based on our differences in character and morality. Obama is as far left as one can lean, I myself would be considered by others as right. Very right, and I found his voting history to be appalling. Many will say that past voting history is irrelevant. I disagree wholeheartedly. By observing a mans past decisions, one can accurately know what to expect from them in the future. IMO | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 7:03:26 PM | http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0616byrnejun16,0,3687652,print.story
Obama and the war Dennis Byrne
June 16, 2008
Before Barack Obama can get his presidential hands on the Iraq War, it might end, not in disaster as he figures, but in an American victory.
He, his fans and much of the media haven't noticed in the heat of the presidential campaign, but the war is winding down, if not nearing its end. Fewer military and civilians killed or wounded; fewer insurgent attacks; more order and security, especially in such troubled areas as Basra and Sadr City; more reconciliation; improved quality of life, and—not the least—greater liberties.
Still, Obama's perspective remains unchanged. There's no accommodation to changed circumstances, only his iron-willed pandering to anti-war voters. As of this writing, his campaign's Web site proclaims: "Obama would immediately begin to pull out troops engaged in combat operations at a pace of one or two brigades every month, to be completed by the end of next year." Who knows, at the pace of progress in Iraq, maybe the troops could come home even quicker. But for Obama to withdraw troops faster than his stone-set timetable, he would have to acknowledge the progress Iraq has made. And explain how he would continue that progress. He would have to be as responsible as The Washington Post, which in a June 1 editorial noted: "Don't look now, but the U.S.-backed [Iraqi] government and army may be winning the war." The Post, ever critical of the policies of President Bush, could never be confused with drooling neocons.
No one should be uncorking the champagne and breaking out the ticker tape, and it is convenient for me—a war supporter—to quote the Post when it supports my position. So, let's turn to the Brookings Institution's "Iraq Index," which from the start has tried and succeeded to be the war's most objective observer.
It shows that civilian deaths, which a year ago numbered in the thousands a month, are down dramatically, although the hundreds still dying are way too many. Also dropping remarkably is the number of U.S.troops killed and wounded.
The number of Iraqi forces deployed is steadily increasing while the number of attacks against U.S. and other coalition forces is down dramatically. So is the number of Iraqi police and military personnel killed each month. The number of joint security stations and combat outposts, which are security checkpoints in strategic areas throughout Baghdad and manned 24 hours a day by U.S. and Iraqi security forces, has more than doubled. The number of multiple fatality bombings has dropped considerably, testimony to the greater security brought by the surge.
There have been no kidnappings of foreign nationals—once a standard tactic for insurgents—for the last year. Attacks on Iraqi oil and gas personnel and installations (e.g. pipelines) have nearly disappeared. Measures of political and press freedoms have improved appreciably, more children are attending school, more judges are being trained. Quality-of-life indicators have improved. Gross domestic product is more than twice what it was before the war. There has been an explosion of telephone and Internet use, of independent media and car ownership.
Since the surge has succeeded, war opponents have redirected their criticism: The Iraqis, critics say, have made no progress on the political front, which was supposed to be the point of the surge. The Iraq Index authors, Michael O'Hanlon and Jason Campbell, don't agree; they see a glass half full. On a scale of 0-to-1, the authors give a score of 0.5 to six benchmark categories dealing with de-Baathification, amnesty, purging extremists from government, security-force hiring, distribution of federal funding to provinces and allocation of provincial powers. Progress on issues dealing with Kirkuk, a permanent hydrocarbons law and provincial elections scored zero. In other words, progress on political benchmarks totaled five out of a possible 11. Not bad when you consider it took America 11 years after its independence to set up a workable form of government in the Constitution.
This is not to say that Iraq isn't a violent, dangerous place. And, of course, serious problems remain, such as inflation and unemployment. But Iraq isn't the same place that it was a year ago, which is one change that Obama needs to recognize.
Instead of just talking about change, Obama should start showing how he will adapt to change and continue the progress that the Bush administration achieved in Iraq. | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 7:03:34 PM |
People are really scared of Obama. He came out of nowhere and is doing so well. I'm not "scared", rather I have a concern based on his inexperience and how he has gotten so far so fast; that indicates to me he's a master of manipulation, not an agent for "change".
If you remember it was stated that MLK and JFK had mistresses. What do these philanderings have to do with people recognizing Obama has experience deficits when compared to his rivals? I'm confused.  | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 7:33:21 PM | McCain on taxes.....flip-flop or evolution?
Morning Edition, June 16, 2008 · Opponents of Republican John McCain — including Democratic rival Barack Obama — have said a McCain presidency would amount to a third term for President Bush. McCain's Senate record generally shows strong support for the president's agenda — except for big tax cuts, which McCain opposed. As a presidential candidate, though, McCain has gone from breaking ranks with the president on tax cuts, to falling in line.
McCain angered many Republicans by voting against one of the president's signature issues — the big tax cuts of 2001 and '03. Claremont McKenna College congressional expert Jack Pitney expects that McCain would continue to take different stances if he were elected.
"John McCain's position on the environment, for instance, is very different from that of the Bush administration, and one would expect a lot more attention to issues such as global warming," Pitney said. "McCain obviously has been a supporter of campaign finance reform and would continue to do so in the White House."
McCain also backed stem cell funding, which President Bush opposed. When the president supported a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, McCain voted against it.
But McCain's greatest act of apostasy came during the first year of Bush's presidency, when he was one of two Senate Republicans to vote against the president's $1.3 trillion tax cut package.
Criticizing Bush's Tax Cut
At the time, McCain publicly criticized it as a plan that had not been outlined well. "We are about to enact one of the most massive tax cuts in memory or history, and we do not have any idea how much money is going to be devoted to defense spending and how much is going to be left over for it."
Two years later, on the day before the U.S. invaded Iraq, McCain declared on the Senate floor that he could not vote for a second package of tax cuts worth $350 billion, most of which went to wealthy investors.
"I cannot in good conscience vote in favor of tax cuts irrespective of their size or to which segment of the population they are targeted," he said.
But the tax cuts were hugely popular with President Bush's Republican base, even as budget surpluses collapsed into enormous deficits. As the president prepared for his 2004 re-election bid, he told a crowd that the 10-year tax plans approved by Congress still fell short.
McCain remained the stubborn holdout. That same year, he told NBC's Meet the Press that he voted against the tax cuts because of the disproportionate amount that went to the wealthiest Americans. "I would clearly support not extending those tax cuts in order to help address the deficit," he said.
New Take on Taxes as a Presidential Hopeful
But once McCain began campaigning to be President Bush's successor, he dramatically changed his stance on those tax cuts, saying he could make them permanent and would reduce taxes on 25 million middle-class families.
Since then, McCain has continued proclaiming his newfound fealty to the Bush tax cuts. Fellow Republican Sen. John Thune of South Dakota, who is often mentioned as a possible McCain running mate, applauds the about-face.
"I think he recognizes that to allow these tax cuts to expire would be the equivalent of a tax increase at a time when the economy is really struggling," Thune said. "So, he believes, and I think rightly so, that extending the tax relief is important to the economy expanding and continuing to create jobs."
'Flip-Flop' or 'Evolution'
Pitney says that is evidence of McCain moving in the direction of President Bush.
"McCain's position can either be described as a flip-flop, if you're opposed to him, or as an evolution, if you're a supporter of him," Pitney said.
"If he had remained a strong critic of tax cuts, it's quite possible he wouldn't have won the Republican nomination in the first place," he added. "There are a lot of economic conservatives who regard his earlier position as a deal breaker."
McCain is even proposing new tax cuts, with the biggest benefits going to the top one-tenth of 1 percent of households and little relief for the bottom three-fifths of taxpayers. In a phone call with reporters, Jason Furman, Obama's new top economic adviser, thwacked McCain.
"People sometimes describe John McCain as a third term of George Bush," he said. "I think when it comes to tax policy, that's actually unfair to President Bush. John McCain's tax policies are far more radical."
At the very least, it is a radical departure from the McCain who voted against both Bush tax cuts. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91544414 | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 8:07:27 PM | McCain is even proposing new tax cuts, with the biggest benefits going to the top one-tenth of 1 percent of households and little relief for the bottom three-fifths of taxpayers. Let us see for ourselves, firsthand, shall we? McCain Tax Cut Plan Pro-Growth Tax Agenda John McCain believes taxes should be low, simple, and fair and has a track record of commitment to these principles.
Cut Taxes On The Middle Class
Cut Taxes For Middle Class Families: Hard-working American families need lower taxes. John McCain will permanently repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) -- a tax that will be paid nearly exclusively by 25 million middle class families.
John McCain will repeal this onerous tax, saving middle class families nearly $60 billion in a single year. Under McCain's plan, a middle class family with children set to pay the AMT will save an average of over $2,700 -- a real tax cut for working families.
Pro-Growth Tax Policy
Keep Tax Rates Low: Entrepreneurs are at the heart of American innovation, growth and prosperity. Entrepreneurs create the ultimate job security -- a new, better opportunity if your current job goes away. Entrepreneurs should not be taxed into submission.
John McCain will fight the Democrats' crippling plans for a tax increase in 2011. Left to their devices, Democrats will impose a massive $100 billion tax hike, almost $700 per taxpayer every year.
Make It Harder To Raise Taxes: John McCain believes it should require a 3/5 majority vote in Congress to raise taxes. Cut The Corporate Tax Rate From 35 To 25 Percent. A lower corporate tax rate is essential to U.S. competitiveness. America was once a low-tax business environment, but as our trade partners lowered their rates, America failed to keep pace, leaving us with the second-highest rate among the world’s advanced economies. Reward Saving, Investment and Risk-Taking: Low taxes on dividends and capital gains promote saving, channel investment dollars to innovative, high-value uses and not wasteful financial planning. John McCain will keep the current rates on dividends and capital gains and fight anti-growth efforts by Democrats. Allow First-Year Deduction, Or “Expensing”, Of Equipment And Technology Investments. Expensing of equipment and technology will provide an immediate boost to capital expenditures and reward investments in cutting-edge technologies. Pro-Innovation Tax Cuts
Ban Internet Taxes: John McCain believes we must make a farsighted, robust, and fervent commitment to innovation and new technologies to sustain our global competitiveness, meet our national security challenges, achieve less costly and more effective health care, reduce dangerous dependence on foreign sources of oil, and raise the quality of education in the United States. John McCain has been a leader in keeping the Internet free of taxes. As President, he will seek a permanent ban on taxes that threaten this engine of economic growth and prosperity. Ban New Cell Phone Taxes: John McCain understands that the same people that would tax e-mail will tax every text message -- and even 911 calls. John McCain will prohibit new cellular telephone taxes. Establish Permanent Tax Credit Equal To 10 Percent Of Wages Spent On R&D. This reform will simplify the tax code, reward activity in the United States, and make us more competitive with other countries. A permanent credit will provide an incentive to innovate and remove uncertainty. At a time when our companies need to be more competitive, we need to provide a permanent incentive to innovate, and remove the uncertainty now hanging over businesses as they make R&D investment decisions.
Retirement Tax Cut
Lower Medicare Premiums: Seniors face a growing threat from higher Medicare premiums that tax away their Social Security and retirement savings. John McCain has proposed comprehensive, pro-market health care and Medicare reforms to reduce health care costs and control increases in premiums -- while delivering high-quality health care. REFORMING WASHINGTON TO REGAIN THE TRUST OF TAXPAYERS
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 9:02:51 PM |
John McCain will fight the Democrats' crippling plans for a tax increase in 2011. Left to their devices, Democrats will impose a massive $100 billion tax hike, almost $700 per taxpayer every year. Do you make $250,000 a year?
Does the average person? Household?
Are you one of the 3 percentile that achieves that mark?
If so then yes, you will be affected (but not by an increase)
It isn't a tax increase....it is letting the temporary tax decrease be allowed to "sunset"....
The country is neck deep in debt and soon will be grasping for air.
Making permanent Bush's tax cuts and making sure the AMT keeps pace with inflation would have a direct cost of $3.6 trillion over the next 10 years, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation and Congressional Budget Office estimates, with government borrowing costs rising more than $800 million over the same period. http://www.examiner.com/a-1445213~McCain__Obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html | |
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 9:21:06 PM | The American people to the Obama campaign: we demand town hall debates. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Obama has done abyssmally in those town hall speeches where he has to speak off the cuff. That confirms what we Hillary Clinton supporters have been saying all along, that he is an empty suit politician. His own campaign knows that and now also does the McCain campaign, as McCain has made repeated calls for them while the Obama campaign runs away from them. The majority of the American people do not know who Obama really is. We should demand that he engage in such debates so the people themselves can question the man who wants to be our leader and allow him to prove to us that he has the knowledge and understanding of the issues that this most important position in the world requires.
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 9:24:14 PM | Since when do the middle class make $250,000 a year?
Cut Taxes For Middle Class Families: Hard-working American families need lower taxes. John McCain will permanently repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) -- a tax that will be paid nearly exclusively by 25 million middle class families.
John McCain will repeal this onerous tax, saving middle class families nearly $60 billion in a single year. Under McCain's plan, a middle class family with children set to pay the AMT will save an average of over $2,700 -- a real tax cut for working families.
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| Let the real show begin (Obama VS McCain) What are your thoughts Posted: 6/17/2008 9:40:56 PM | I understand that an it's true ~ He's large and on the scene. ~ and I'll tell you now ~ I fear him ~ and perhaps more should ~ but I fear 4 more years of the same more!
I am taking this vote very seriously ~ my shadow grows long on this earth ~ I'm running out of time ~ I need 8 good years! in the worst way! It's personal! It's real!
Government has been more of a problem then a soluation ~ They meddle just enough to screw thing up and then brag about doing something. ~ We need better government and less government. ~ As it presently stands ~ there is no energy policy ~ just corn gas, a mislabled farm subsidy and Iraq War on Terror, a mislabled energy policy gone bad.
To say you are fearless ~ of what or how either of this candidates might affect you in the next 4 years is a very, very bold ~statement, ~ to have conserns, is an understatment, misgiving? an understatment ~ This last 8 years has taken a toll on many of us ~ and we are in no mood to be lied to ~ We speak of extremist ~ we are going to see alot of it ~ if something don't change soon. ~ I really don't think many know just how close to the edge things have progressed. ~ It's cut throat here in the private sector ~ Coroperate America ~ is not paying their bills ~ they are hidding behind laws ~ so I can't pay mine ~ it's house of dominoes ~ regardless as to how well you have prepaired, in time your domino too shall fall ~ and it's only then ~ will you understand.
So this is what they were talking about! ~~ There is no honor, there is no respect for the truth ~ Good Will has becoming a thing of the past ~ We must conduct business like everything is a dope deal. ~ I'm glad my grandfather didn't live to see this dismoraled mess we've come to accept as Business today~ and it starts at the top!
Mc Cain is attempting to build on a flawed foundation, on lies and deceit ~ He's willing to ingore `like it didn't happen ~ hoping to get a leg up.
And Obama ~ is a smooth talker ~ with a short unproven track record ~ that enjoys a hellfire and brimstone, getdown Sunday morning service in congeration of4000 ~ (thats a big church ) ~ and will address social issues ~ the question is ~ will they be fair to all? Will he open Pandora's box? Will he be steadfast and firm in the face of our ememies? ~ I don't know these answers. ~ he is yet to be tested by the fire.
But I see McCain rolling over for a bellie rub from special interest ~ Not scared? ~ you've got to be asleep.
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