| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 6/25/2008 9:16:32 PM | ah my, seems my point might have come across without it's intended effect. My third reply to this thread is a reflection of the fringe thinkers, those of whom do possess potential intellgence choose to oppose the mass and silence the multitude of swirling wonders that need spill out. The original rant is to question moreso than anything, why? Why should one birthe ideas? We do generally better if we remain stoned with the radio on. Oh well, I have no mouth and I must scream. Distraction is a selfish tool we use to quiet the cry inside, we know something is amiss. We can throw names of people that built or thought things we barely understand, that way the television can remain on. Or we can ask, do even they understand more than their relative field. Are those whom we polish on high pedestal nothing more than specified human beings, using the same potential we all have, only finely focused? Genius or revolutionary thought, comes from those stellar beings whom excel in a myriad of fields. Not one. It's no longer a question of distraction as addiction, it is distraction for survival. Otherwise, sober genii might weep as they witness what past seeds of thought bred: ornamentals. | |
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| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 6/25/2008 9:39:58 PM | It's good to spend time alone and learn to enjoy your own company. Gives you time to reflect on what's going on without being a part of it.  | |
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| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 6/25/2008 10:34:51 PM | | Distractions are a way to hide behind things that we are generally to afraid to face, addictions are away to cover up pain and sorrow so if we then distract ourselves the addiction goes unnoticed and therefore never being able to be released from the prison that most brillant minds are trapped in, A prison that will never be escaped as long as useless distractions are over powered by addiction. with all this ranting on about brillant minds no one has even dared to ask.......How could such intelligent persons be victims to the raging world of television and drugs and alcohol? aren't there minds open to the reality of the consiquinces ? If a great mind can become a victim to distractions while dying with an addiction why does it not over come the selfish painful cry that weeps with in?. | |
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| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 6/26/2008 12:07:42 AM | A mind without motivators is a lump of grey mud. Addictions are the greatest motivators next to preservation instincts.
It's very hard to lead a life that sets you down a path of specific information gathering that will induce a strong motivation for regular practices in deeper reasoning. I believe we are nothing more than information sponges and information flow regulators. Minds like leaves in the wind. Who can only twist and turn to alter their paths along the air current (thought patterns).
I believe free will is nature's greatest illusion. Otherwise I'd free will myself to instantly remember where I left my car keys. Because I know the information of their location is in my head.
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| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 6/27/2008 8:51:48 PM | | Our minds work in mysterious ways, why things happen, how things work, it effects how we feel, it can either send you down the right path or completely misguide you all together .people just are who they are,a genius alcoholic with no need to live there life with the full potential they are blessed with or a talented vocalist who chooses to keep there mouth closed or an amazing artist who declares they will never touch a brush it has nothing to do with distraction it has everything to do with choices the genius alcoholic chooses to drink that beer instead of putting there potential to work,the vocalist chooses to keep her voice silenced instead of letting the world hear the sweet harmony pass by her lips and the artist chooses to not pick up that brush because smoking a joint would be less energy. no one has the imbition anymore to be who they are it's really not about distractions or addictions it's about where your mind is set at and unfortunely not all great thinkers even realize that they are ,our minds are consumed with so much information that some minds take it for granted and once again chooses not to put there brillance to work,everyone should know there knowledge level and what they are capable of but too many excuses become in issue which is what makes most 'great minds' ablivious (spell check lol) to what they are really made of. | |
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| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 6/27/2008 9:34:01 PM | | To a certain extent you're right. But part of that lacking motivation comes from self-pity, and that can be due to a lacking confidence... as that can be many people's own worst critic at work. And so, the viscous circle continues time and time again, until we are faced with drastic action where, like you say a choice can be differentiated from that of habit. However habit, good or bad, is a predominant thought process which makes us who we are in the end. | |
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| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 6/27/2008 10:19:17 PM | | unfortunely yes habits do make us who we are whether good or bad but so do our choices!! I just don't understand why such great minds are making such bad choices i'm not a genius not even close but i'm not dumb either and even I have SOME common sense when it comes to making choices but for some very intelligent people that common sense does not exist, a lot of people have the brains and just don't know what to do with it. | |
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| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 6/27/2008 10:39:57 PM | | I must say that since the original post this forum has gone off topic which may not be what was intended by the individual who posted it. | |
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| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 7/19/2008 2:53:07 PM | OP
I didn't read the whole thing, but it seems like you're saying that Today's society is stopping the potential great geniuses of this time from rising. It also seems like you would wish us to go back to a more simple, non-technologically advanced society so that these geniuses can focus on their art/science/philosophy more.
However, if it wasn't for Einstein, and a few others, we wouldn't have computers. Their work on Particle Physics, the study of electrons, and other things led to the very first resistors and capacitors used in many electrical components in today's modern technology. Thanks to them, we now understand electricity, and can harness it's power. Year by Year, we improve on the technology, we make computer chips smaller, make them stronger, make them faster -- and with the rise in computer technology, comes the rise in all other technology -- Universal knowledge, Drug and Health, Security, etc..
Super computers will soon be able to compute as much or more than the entire human brain can do per second. In about 10 years, we'll be posting on these forums on computers that make more calculations per second than the human brain. Actually, we may not even be typing, we'll probably have a sensor on our necks, interpreting nerve signals -- and typing for us exactly what we're thinking (without us actually speaking out loud)
This technology I speak of is already a reality -- but it says out loud what you think. | |
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| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 7/20/2008 3:33:48 PM | Our society has changed a lot in the last 50 years. The academic community has become highly politicised, to the point where it is politics, not scientific breakthroughs that are the guarantee of success and research. Even in my university, the better a lecturer was at politics, the higher he was up the academic ladder. However, most academics and great thinkers are either good at politics or at their chosen field, but very few are good at both. So these days, the vast majority of scientists and thinkers with the idea to effect real change, and people who are very good at the skill of politics and manipulation, not advancement of knowledge and things that will be of great benefit.
Most of the real thinkers aren't smoking a joint and listening to Coldplay. They're in a dead-end job, working for little pay, having their great ideas wasted. There are lots of people with PhDs who work in places like MacDonalds.
It's just no longer cool to be a great thinker. So great ideas are no longer cool either.
If we want society to be positively influenced by great ideas, then we have to value them. | |
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| The Dreaming and Thinking . . . Posted: 7/20/2008 8:25:57 PM | Many great thinkers and inventors were educated in many diverse areas. It is in that space that the synergies of innovation happen.
The world and higher ed has become quite silo'd. I'm lucky to live in Waterloo, ON. The inventors of the BlackBerry have funded the Perimeter Institute who's sole purpose is to get the greatest thinkers together. One downside is that the prof's are almost solely physics people for which you need very high math skills. This builds a barrier to alternate viewpoints and fields of study. | |
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