| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 5:06:02 AM |
Please... poster before me, don't kid yourself
25% of 300 million is 75 million which is several armies and if you read my post again you'll see I'm not implying it's a good thing.
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 5:26:55 AM |
pick your sides and believe only the lies of the other guys side.
There are lies and then there are lies. The idiot we now call President told the kind of lies that got a lot of good people killed so it's important to recognize them and how easily they were fed to us so we can keep it from happening again.
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 5:48:33 AM | Pretty easy ,two reasons, OIL and PROTECTION OF OUR 51ST STATE ISRAEL
Afganistan and iraq are conviently located east and west ot the main prize IRAN
Creat a bogey man(Bin Ladin) and create fear ,(the 45 mins to the U.S. being left in a nucular cloud) and they the people will glady follow anything the current administration wants and GIVE UP Freedoms IN THE NAME OF NATIONAL SECURITY TO DO IT.
The Saudis are giving us the nose latley because we conviently got rid of their threat in Saddam Hussain and really don't need the U.S. military there to protect their lazy asses any longer,remember before th u.s. would ask for more oil and they would open the spikets,no longer does that happen at will.
4 major oil companys have divided iraq into districts and pretty much controll the oil.
There is no accountability of how much and where the oil is going,remember the oil was to pay for the whole iraq war and according to the prez belonged to the iraqi people. so where is the money ???????????????
And for some of you to say the soldiers are protecting our freedoms ,well what feedoms?? I am just as free from the bogey man threat than before and really have lost more freedoms in this phoney war.
The whole thing is the typical
PROBLEM,REACTION,SOULUTION
Some of you really dont get it.... and to qoute a deceased american hero,Mark Scott.
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 6:03:33 AM | How is it that every one with a pickup truck and a cowboy hat or from the southern nascar loving state or has been in the military or wanna be cop is a world expert on everything??
YET has very little to say.
So what youv'e been in the military So have I BUT i was smart enough to know what was going on.
why do you think you are not allowed to question orders? Because if you knew the master scheme of things there would be no one to fight the for the plan.
WW2 was different of course and I can't say alot about it as I was not alive then and can't feel the pulse of the sentiment of the day.
HOWEVER I sure can feel it today. and it aint good | |
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 6:22:32 AM | “Sadly, the Bush Administration led the nation into war under false pretenses.”
Chairman Jay Rockefeller
“the Bush Administration engaged in a misleading marketing campaign to rush the country to war.”
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
“Misleading Marketing Campaign”
These are high crimes against the American people, Bush went beyond misleading the Congress and the American public, outright lying, fabrication and concealment of facts. Isn't it treason to lie and send troops into harms way?
America is suffering from a bad case of Fascism. | |
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 2:52:36 PM | QUOTE: How is it that every one with a pickup truck and a cowboy hat or from the southern nascar loving state or has been in the military or wanna be cop is a world expert on everything??
YET has very little to say.
^^ True. I notice this all the time as well. Glad somebody else does too. | |
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 3:15:11 PM | First, I congratulate and want to very deeply thank all the guys and girls on this post that served no matter what the reason. Now to the real business. If we really knew what our goverment was doing we'd all be so scared shitless we'd never want to leave the house. Now for you idiots talking treason and traitor shit? You guys are communist faggots and need to be the one's hung and tried for treason. How dare any of you sit here and ridicule the greatest country inthe world and belittle our fighting men and women? You people need to leave America and go spread your crap in one of these other countries that would have already cut your tongues out. I myself, my family, and many many good friends that are still here or gone that have been fighting to keep idiots like you's opinions able to be spoken freely, need to be honored no matter what their country tells them to do. Most of you sissies and armchair warriors can't or don't have the balls to even fight in a serious wartime situation? So like I said, all you Jane Fonda's get the Fu^% out and go live somewhere else if you think you're being so wronged and lied too? Sitting around doing nothing but you can sure run your mouth's. Not even doing anything to help our country or to defend it's protector's? You make me sick and all you are the traitors. Get real info and study what you think you know what you're talking about before opening uneducated mouths. All you've done is make our great country look bad and it's true, patriotic citizens look like Schmuck's such as yourselves. Long live America no matter what the situation and PRAISE US OUR FIGHTING ARMED FORCES FOR YOUR RIGHT TO BE IGNORANT ANTI AMERICAN COMMIES. HOO RAH.................... And to all you others also learn how to spell before you come out sounding educated! EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS TO GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!   | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 3:28:47 PM | | By the way. Instead of using your precious time bashing our country? Why don't you lames do something really productive? Instead of wasting useless energy on your traitoristic views, go out and try to eradicate our homeless and hunger problem that we have? You're so busy worrying about what's going on on the other side of the world? What about our own issues right here at home? You people need to get a clue and find something useful to do with your time instead of sitting on the computer all day. I hope none of you people have kids that listen to you and believe your propaganda? | |
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 4:54:09 PM | Thirteen and a half years in the military during Vietnam gives this idiot the right to talk anyway I want. It also gives me the right to say the President lied for the benefit of Israel, the oil companies, the military-industrial complex and last but not least, his delusional conversation with god. During that conversation Bush says god told him to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden's stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and a state for the Palestinians.
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 5:19:59 PM |
You guys are communist faggots and need to be the one's hung and tried for treason.
Welcome aboard louis. Come by to make friends, did ya? Rants like that get people booted so make friends quick.
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Posted: 6/7/2008 5:21:53 PM | If we review our history we find that not only the President but Senators and Congress both Democrats and Republicans prior to 2003 were stating how dangerous Sadam regime was and that he was pursuing WMD's. Even the CLinton administration in 1998
was recommending we need to stop Iraq from obtaining WMD's. President Bush was receiving the same intellgience all the politicians were on Iraq. So the Senate or Congress calling Bush a liar is hypocritical of them...search the record of their statements prior to 2003 and they are all on the same page. Do I think the war in Iraq is a mistake? Yes..because Iraq was a natural enemy of Iran and we should have attacked it instead due to their terrorist and nuclear involvement. There may have been faulty intelligience or the Iraqi's hid the WMD's very well but to call Bush a liar is
over the top. Besides the Senate is made up of egotists and bloated old gutless blowhard self-serving politicians who pander to the media cameras. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 5:23:30 PM | | You're all a bunch of friggin morons. How come nobody here is talking about how many terrorists US soldiers have killed in the Middle East or how we got rid of a psycho dictator. Just lay off the crack pipe and realize that Iraqis wouldn't have the right to vote if it wasn't for the U.S. invasion. Yes I know more people have died by US bombs then by Saddam but theres a little thing called collateral damage. Look it up, I'm sure you dumbasses will need to. The only reason why only a small percentage of Iraqis approve of the invasion is because they've obviously been brainwashed by past dictaters. God this is sad that someone half your age has to rebuke you like this. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 5:35:38 PM | louisrobert ,....oh my god,...where to begin,.....
to the real business. If we really knew what our goverment was doing we'd all be so scared shitless we'd never want to leave the house.
sooooo,......are you then advocating remaining blissfully ignorant of all your government is doing???? yikes,....now that to me is scary,....
Now for you idiots talking treason and traitor shit? You guys are communist faggots and need to be the one's hung and tried for treason.
you might want to look up the term traitor and treason,...because it has nothing what so ever to do with one's sexual orientation,....or even communism,.... neither of which is a an offense punishable by death,....even in your country and regardless of whether you are at war or not,.... go figure eh?
How dare any of you sit here and ridicule the greatest country inthe world and belittle our fighting men and women?
The self bestowed title of greatest country on earth may have applied at one time and might one day again but the title needs to be earned as does the respect of the people of other countries,....it is a title that has at one time belonged to many other countries on the planets and can be easily lost but once lost is very hard to re-earn......The same thing applies with the respect one bestows onto a fighting force,.... sadly with every incident perpetrated by a few,...like the Abugrade incident,.... waterboarding, and policies like that of your desertion of the other nationals who aide you at the risk of their own life and that of their families,.... each of these and more take something away from all your fighting men and women,.... It may not be fair but it is human nature,.....
Sadly we hear far too few incidents as the one where the commander of a group of men who were surrounded by an angry mob,...instead of opening fire, the commander told his men to take a knee,.....and the situation disapated without injury to friend or foe,...
Now that to me was representative of what your country once stood for,...... and what had made it great in my mind,....
You people need to leave America and go spread your crap in one of these other countries that would have already cut your tongues out. I myself, my family, and many many good friends that are still here or gone that have been fighting to keep idiots like you's opinions able to be spoken freely, need to be honored no matter what their country tells them to do. Most of you sissies and armchair warriors can't or don't have the balls to even fight in a serious wartime situation? So like I said, all you Jane Fonda's get the Fu^% out and go live somewhere else if you think you're being so wronged and lied too?
Jane was right,...it just took your country some time to come to see that and eventually agree with,...which they did BTW,....
Why is it that so many of you feel that your countrymen and women who disagree with you should move rather than formulate change in your country,....first of all not everyone who voices an opinion is in fact living in your country,....but more importantly a country,...any country needs to grow and change with the times and it's people to be a true working democracy,.....freedom of speech is the thing that allows for that to happen,...even if that speech disagrees with your or even popular opinion,...anytime you stifle that speech in any way you are loosing that freedom until eventually you become a communist state,..... and FYI to you,....when you stop questioning your leaders and give them free reign without consequence,.... you get there just that much faster,.... so who exactly is the "ANTI AMERICAN COMMIES"?......
Sitting around doing nothing but you can sure run your mouth's. Not even doing anything to help our country or to defend it's protector's? You make me sick and all you are the traitors. Get real info and study what you think you know what you're talking about before opening uneducated mouths. All you've done is make our great country look bad and it's true, patriotic citizens look like Schmuck's such as yourselves. Long live America no matter what the situation and PRAISE US OUR FIGHTING ARMED FORCES FOR YOUR RIGHT TO BE IGNORANT ANTI AMERICAN COMMIES. HOO RAH
Patriotism isn't just blindly doing what you are told and believing what you are spoon fed by your leaders,....and IMO it's people who don't think for themselves and who blindly follow, do as they are told and who gleefully wave the flag, in lieu of thinking for themselves,....people who never question their leaders or God forbid hold them accountable for their actions or inactions that have made your country look bad,....
This may also come as a shock to you but there are more than a few of your men and women currently serving who agree with my take on things,.....who also think your leaders need to be held accountable for their lies,.... I know if I were them I wouldn't want to die or live with the killing of others on my hands, because of the ego and lies of my leaders,....I like them would want this fracas to end as quickly as possible,.....
EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS TO GET THE HELL OUT!!!
Have you been checking the news lately????? many of your country men and women both in uniform and not,...have taken this as a viable , and preferable option,....
and finally
And to all you others also learn how to spell before you come out sounding educated!
you might want to take your own advice on this,.....just FYI,.... | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 5:36:41 PM | Good Evening? First: Not Here To Make Friends.
Second:Thank you Vietnem Vet and my tyrade Is/Or was ever directed towards you so I do apolgize if you may have taken offense? But as a Vet, how do you know Bush didn't talk with God?
Third:The way I stand as an American I believe that no matter what? Good or bad that our chosen, elected officials choose to involve themselves in? We are to stand behind it 100% because that's what made America what it is. Some Ebonics for Ya'll.
So where's the refreshments? | |
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 5:57:25 PM |
The way I stand as an American I believe that no matter what? Good or bad that our chosen, elected officials choose to involve themselves in? We are to stand behind it 100% because that's what made America what it is.
you need to go back and re-read your history books,.... | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 5:59:38 PM | Everyone...please re- read Sendricks excellent post #33 again. There we have a record of statements prior to 2003 made by politicians who had supported the efforts against the Saddam Hussein regimes WMD intentions. Remember the intelligience was gathering on Iraq prior to the Bush years so let truth and factual evidence of politicians recorded statements be examined
just like in a trial. It's a revisionist creation of the Senate to call Bush a liar when many of them made the same case against Saddam. Why won't the Senate or other politicians own up to their statements instead of making political play ponying up to the media and the moveon.org far leftist bunch. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 6:23:23 PM | And those same sentiments weren't issued by Bush One?
Or IN 2003 the UN indicated that NO WMD's in Iraq exited. Hans Blix indicated that it was like looking for a black cat that wasn't even there in a dark room.
So instead of saying, "We are going after Saddam and WMD's", perhaps Bush junior should have clearly stated, "God told me we should attack Iraq" and held a vote on THAT "proof" of the need to invade.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/attack/2003/0101case.htm
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/SC7asdelivered.htm
Given this information ^^^ do you really think anyone would have supported a move to invade based on fears of WMD's in the first place?
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/31/1043804520548.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0305-01.htm | |
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 6:25:24 PM |
The way I stand as an American I believe that no matter what? Good or bad that our chosen, elected officials choose to involve themselves in? We are to stand behind it 100% because that's what made America what it is. Some Ebonics for Ya'll.
Geez I am really sorry you don't know what a democracy, and or the articles of the Constitution mean and or stand for after the ugly spout off you did.
Perhaps the person who needs to re read the history books IS you.
Not to long ago a president was impeached for getting a BJ and lying about it. A blow job for pete sake... Were you standing behind that president, or did you say impeach the pr!ck like obviously a lot of others did?
As an American, I still live (well it is getting more questionable every day) in a country that gives the right for me to think what ever way I want, which includes not terrorizing a country that was NOT harming my country. I am also able to decide WHO I stand behind, because I was given that right, which is the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE, not the RIGHT OF the president.
This presidency lied, and lied in such a way that a lot of people lost their lives, a lot more in 2 yrs than in the 20 Sadam was in control... I don't know, that doesn't seem like collateral damage, but more like blatant murder of people that didn't ask for a democracy.
Have you boys heard the complaints that are current...No running water, or electricity, fear of being killed simply because...
We did whom a favor????
Perhaps those who can't talk civil and voice their disagreements better should consider avoiding forums, because it isn't about name calling but rather about an exchange of ideas...
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 6:52:46 PM | | Bill should have stood his ground and said "Yup, she blew me." Only problem with that whole thing is he got caught! Somebody in office is getting way more than a BJ right now, as I speak. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 7:18:01 PM | I hear you louisrobert. And I'll reiterate that supporting your troops does not mean anyone has to support the leadership of those troops. Infact I'd go as far as to say that not questioning the leadership does the men and women in military service more harm than good.
It is a never ending job trying to keep a politician honest. It gets frustrating when you run into people insisting that everyone must support said dishonest person without question or be a traitor or anti-American etc. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 8:00:38 PM | or that Iraq had provided al-Qa’ida with weapons training, were not substantiated by the intelligence.
Saddam Hussein was prepared to give weapons of mass destruction to terrorist groups for attacks against the United States were contradicted by available intelligence information.
regarding Iraq’s chemical weapons production capability and activities did not reflect the intelligence community’s uncertainties as to whether such production was ongoing.
Iraqi government operated underground WMD facilities that were not vulnerable to conventional airstrikes because they were underground and deeply buried was not substantiated by available intelligence information.
The Intelligence Community did not confirm that Muhammad Atta met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague in 2001
Okay so I don't get it... The above clearly says, can not be substantiated, unconfirmed,
did not reflect the intelligence community’s uncertainties..
Okay got it..
Now where does it say anyone LIED? The fact is it doesn't say anyone lied. OH Thats what you DEMS want to interpret it to say, but it's not what it says.
If Bush lied why hasn't Congress impeached him? The Dems controll Congress, it would be very easy to do.. Thank GOD the President of the United States doesn't have to answer to morons like you.
Now don't start giving me quotes from newspapers and disgruntled employees that write a book about what all you idiots want to read about as proof. There is no proof anyone lied about anything, just a lot of DEMOCRATIC OPINIONS.. You guys shouldn't waste your time on here spewing your ignorance.. You should get out there and knock on doors for Obama, he's going to get clobbered in November.. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2008 8:07:38 PM | Third:The way I stand as an American I believe that no matter what? Good or bad that our chosen, elected officials choose to involve themselves in? We are to stand behind it 100% because that's what made America what it is.
And I suppose if you lived in Germany when Hitler was in power you would have said the same thing about Germany ?
Now where does it say anyone LIED?
Ok, He didn't lie.
He just didn't tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Feel better now?
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| Senate proves Bush lied us into war.
Posted: 6/7/2008 8:20:46 PM |
The way I stand as an American I believe that no matter what? Good or bad that our chosen, elected officials choose to involve themselves in? We are to stand behind it 100% because that's what made America what it is.
I can't think of anything more Un american then blindly following any administration. | |
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