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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/8/2008 10:06:41 PM | NERO1, I totally feel the same way about what you said.
Our personalities are chimeras built through internalization.
A clone can quite easily be entirely different in behaviour than our own, despite having the exact same physical characteristics.
I have known a pair of twins who were brought up separately by their divorced parents. They shared certain personality traits because they both visited and spent time with each other and their parents, but they were vary much different too. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/9/2008 7:48:09 AM |
What's the difference in you 1 billionth of a second before you die, and 1 billionth of a second after you die? Do you think the difference is in your body?
to answer this question,
the difference in you is what killed you so instantly, i would say something like the effect in you of an atomic bomb or something similar.
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/9/2008 9:08:21 AM |
From scratch means you also make the sperm and the egg. And do that you will have to create some of the atomic elements making up the those entities. In other words, you will have to create hydrogen from scratch. Good luck.
My granny baked from scratch and she didn't have to do all those things.
I guess she also made the wheat she used by mixing some carbohydrates, phosphorus, and of those healthy fibers we all know about. Your granny must be the world's finest chemist. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/9/2008 5:08:18 PM | | As usual with science, they appear much more consumed with the ability to do it than they are at thinking if they should. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/10/2008 12:56:24 PM |
You know, no matter how we like ourselves, would you want to be cloned? I definitely would NEVER like the idea.
To be honest I'm not sure I can see the difference between having a clone and having a twin, apart from the fact that one would be older than the other (in terms of actual age, although with current cloning techniques, I believe genetic age would be the same). | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/11/2008 5:56:11 AM | Even cases where twins born are born from the same split egg/cell; the baby grows into it's own uniqe being. They have different fingerprints and can have different eye colors and can some times grow little taller than the other.
These identical twins have there own personalities despite splitting from the same egg.
A "clone" would be his or her own unique person that would have to be born just like anyone else. A clone would be nothing more or less than a twin. This twin would have a different world experiences and would/should not be anyones property. This twin should have the same right as you or I .
Does it have a soul? If the rest of us have souls, then yes. If we do not have them ourselfs, then no. You would not share a soul with your twin/clone if we do. That person would have his or her own.
There is no true clone, nor will there ever be. People can never be replaced; once we're gone, we're gone. A clone/twin will never change that. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/11/2008 6:21:17 AM | No religious group seems to deny that babies derived from artificial conception methods (such as IVF) are fully human in every sense.
There is no evidence to suggest a child born by non-natural methods is somehow flawed by a lack of mental and cognitive capacity in comparison to a child born by natural methods. If this were true, then IVF-derived babies should show some inherited cognitive disability in relation to non-IVF derived babies.
I think human clones, when and if they are made, will have the same cognitive abilities as ordinary humans, provided they develop properly and normally after coming into existence. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/11/2008 9:02:32 AM | | Grandmothers ARE the best chemists...no matter what I do I can't make my cornbread taste as good as hers...but I've improved my Rum Cheesecake past hers ;) | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/12/2008 1:42:01 PM |
posted by: Angelheart3
Given that God formed us in His image....
Prove it. And before you say the same thing to me, keep in mind one thing...I dont have to. The burden of proof is not on me the non-believer to disprove god, That would be like me dedicating my life to disproving the existance of unicorns.
And sometimes man-made things are better then god-made things because we can make improvements. Like Augmented silicone breasts? | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/12/2008 2:00:15 PM |
Posted by: enchanted107
You know, no matter how we like ourselves, would you want to be cloned? I definitely would NEVER like the idea
Marty..thats because your not thinking 4th dimensionally....ok try this on for size. We reach the point in human cloning to where you at 50 have one your nail clippings or hair samples taken and used to clone a new you. It will more then likely grow at the same rate. So it will take 25 years for your clone to reach the age of 25. That whole time is spent in an incubation chamber or something similar untill your ready. By the time your clone is 25 you are now 75. You decide "Ok Im ready to live over again" Your brain waves and knowledge and all personality traits are then uploaded into a giant computer and stored. Your clones brain is wiped clean of everything and your old memory is downloaded into your clone so you can wake up at 25, still with all the knowledge you learned during your lifetime, and start a second life. This time avoiding all the mistakes you made the last time. All with a full set of perfect teeth, full head of hair, no missing internal organs, your you-know-whats working at full capacity, body fat percentage at a perfect 7%. Who wouldnt want that? And there's nothing immoral about it. You created a second you. It's not another one of you..it's you.
This whole idea is obviously stolen from the movie "Freejack" But that is what I would really like to see for the distant future. Then man really could have immortality. Not the bullshiit christian version. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/12/2008 3:38:28 PM |
Your clones brain is wiped clean of everything and your old memory is downloaded into your clone
That would be the same as murdering someone and then taking their place.
there's nothing immoral about it.
A clone is not another you; a clone is someone else. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/13/2008 7:21:22 AM | :
posted by: orallover45
Your clones brain is wiped clean of everything and your old memory is downloaded into your clone
posted by: Hank
That would be the same as murdering someone and then taking their place.
How do you figure that? Thats not even remotely the same. If you murder someone, you destroy their body. Then if you wanted to take their place, all your doing is replacing them, in their place in the world, but still with your busted up 50 yo body. What have you gained? A new credit history?
Im talking about waking up in a brand new 25 yo body. One that was created from your own DNA. So t's you all over again. Big difference. It's about the reality of really being young again. Everybodys fantasy since time began.
posted by: Hank; A clone is not another you; a clone is someone else. It's my DNA, I'll do what I want with it. If your god dosent like it...fuk em!
Im gonna assume that you think you can tell women what they can do with their bodies too? | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/13/2008 9:20:30 AM | (I truly need an editor, I come to these threads with no thought nor want to post (my ego) and then something takes root and uses me to provide something for you fools and tools to consider. Sorry for the length, soon to moving on from here so the peons patrol can feel better and not have to delete my posts as often an disallow me from starting threads)
OP: I believe it would grow an ego and nothing more.
IMO it would be a fiat being as the intent/purpose and the action which brought it about is not related to spiritual life or spiritual growth, the cause and effect is all about egos.
My understanding is that the soul is the the womb or temporary home for the spirit so it may have the space/place but the purpose of it would not be in line with the true purpose of a soul (fiat/fake soul) so this tells me it would likely be void, that is unless the energy that is spirit is attracted to a fiat soul/being rather then a real being.
For instance, you may catch a fish with lures/fiat bait, but I truly believe a spirit has more divine intelligence then a simple fish so the fiat soul would be vacant of true spirit.
My view is that ego is temporary and as such, the fiat being may have a soul but it could never have a spirit that is of our true purpose but it would be easy to manipulate and get it to take on false purpose as the one;s who created it have no real paternal attachment nor true love, their is only ego's at work, looking for material and superficial gain, those who wish to deny an infinite intelligence that is omnipresent.
Those who think that cloning humans, while in our current times we are murdering unborn children and promoting an ideal that this manner of existence is in line with any true purpose & what we should do and pursue as human-beings , are truly without spirit and are enemy to man, mankind and nature, they know this and our current state of affairs validates that these specific spiritless beings are at work to destroy man and earth.
These types of beings are truly akin to the clones and the cloning of humans is likely their goal as they would rather create that which they can control/own, then to have to deal with a population of real people who do not wish to be oppress and usurped anymore.
In our world (not the corps(e) world), it is where spirit/nature is alive & born and is free and in all truth, it is capable of once again ending material worship which is the downfall of spirit and mankind. Unfortunately so many are at work to be in debt and enslaved to material that they are lost and likely will never be found, they are of no importance to spirit anymore, they deny it and so they will be w/o it for eternity.
In all truth, cloning man is a step towards annihilating mankind.
If those who own the technology can grow their own slaves/soldiers/peon employees, they would certainly rather have slaves, tools and fools then those who would fight against them and their diabolical ways.
Materialism makes us poison all the essentials that are required to support life on the planet.
We are now poisoning ourselves & killing unborn babies and putting the common wealth of mankind to work to replace ourselves and nature
Can you people not fathom the idiocy in the way these people live and exist?
Can you not see that we have some very sick people who are wielding power and those who we are appointing to offices of influence and control are ultimately controlled by those who are at work to destroy and replace us.
All people who invest in any of the global corps(e) that are exploiting earth, man and spirit are dead already and they and the clones are truly of ape and lacking any form of truth or spirit within their being.
Materialism, elitism, celebrity and the rest of the industries and sectors that merely act as wealth and spirit transfer devices are soon to be seen for what they truly are, destructive tools that enslave man rather then amuse him and serve him.
The ignorant currently profess the elite tools to be of a purpose that is good. But hold on, nothing could be further from the truth.
If you can not see or if you are helping it, believe me, you are dead, eternally.
You will suffer horrendously very soon and at the hands of that which you presently worship.
REAL-EYES, worship is to give time/energy and riches so as something else is held higher in your own regard then you regard yourself/ego, worship should be to remove ego which is spiritual/cosmic waste.
If you are living and wasting/spending time to benefit corps(e) and live almost exclusively so as to be amused rather then spending your energy/time/spirit to benefit spirit is a statement to the universe that you accept corps(e) as your master/leader and waste as your purpose. truly, you are to reap what you sow, it is inevitable.
G/L spiritless fools and peon tools! Remember, don't pack winter clothes as where you are going, it will always hot, think of it as a permanent vacation to the hottest spot in the universe and it will be your eternal soul.
So enjoy and keep living to be of disservice to others and of great service to that which is lies and destruction.
Those who are controlling the rackets and ultimately controlling man and destroying our environment, debasing air/land/water/food and our common exchange mechanism (through fiat money/biased fractional reserve lending policies and other scams/rackets), have no true wealth, it is all fiat and worthless material which its purpose is valued only by ego, that which is temporary, a dogma until itself. So many fools are so entrapped within the various scams /rackets.
Science is like celebrity, royalty, religion and so forth, a racket/scam that is at work to oppress truth and oppress spirit while promoting materialism and fiatism, fake existence.
But truth be told, many are actually waking each day to the truths as the illusion becomes apparent and all see that the emperor (fiat money grubbers and their masters) truly have no clothes, they also carry wooden guns and have no integrity and they fear death but it will welcome them, it is truly becoming for them.
Supporting the birth of cloned beings is to support the death and destruction of spirit, which I might add, can not be destroyed so the lunatics and their peons are the final victims and it will be through their own actions/purpose as they have lived against life and gave their spirit to a corps(e) and filled their soul with material and lies.
Maybe the clones would serve mankind if only we could get rid of peons and useless/worthless shareholders who are getting (not earning as they are not earnest nor of good intent, selfish/greedy) residuals on residuals at the expense of man/nature.
They steal wealth and riches of others and take credit for that which nature provides for free, this is their first err and they know they must destroy nature so as man can not be served by nature and make men serve man, the war they wage, they wage upon themselves and the make victims of the innocent and now wish to create fiat people to serve them as well, wake up fools, stop drinking the fluoride and eating factory waste, fiat food for fiat people who love fiat money and replicas of nature, despising truth and reality.
These are the true terrorists we face, they are the vampires or "ari"stocrats.
These tools and fools need life to convey that ignorance is wisdom, debt is money and lies are truth or else, they are known to be dead because to them, dead is alive, they will have their want, sooner then later.
All of the corporatist fascists are sick and soon to be gone, just wait and see what is being brewed in the Karma Urn for you, it is exact to you in it's nature as you, loves destruction, hates life and anything that is real and it will be with and upon you very soon if it isn't already.
And remember real people, you will never see a real flower in the eyes of a peon nor a clone, they can not understand Shamballa.
Personally, I am likely venturing away from all the pro-corps(e) posting site s as I truly believe I and all spirited people should be using their time now for spiritual growth and when and where truth is oppress and attacked, one and all of true spirit should gladly move on to where spirit is welcome and appreciated and let the peons and the clones have their "ill"usion to themselves.
feel free to attack me, as mentioned, this did not arrive from my ego, so attack the spirit in me for having compassion for life, liberty and reality. there are to many flakes and fiat peopl already, we do not need more lies and more slaves, they need new slaves because they can not control that which lives eternal.
ps. I did not re-read the entire post so please excuse any minor typos but as mentioned, attack if that is your nature, you must be what you are, if you are not true to yourself and others, you are a clone of past peons and abettors of those rape the earth and mankind of it's purpose. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/13/2008 12:21:58 PM |
One that was created from your own DNA. So t's you all over again. Big difference. It's about the reality of really being young again. Everybodys fantasy since time began.
Apparently you don't understand what a clone is. A clone is not "you all over again," as you suggest. A human clone would be a living individual, no different than an identical twin. The only difference between a clone and any other person is a clone has one DNA donor, while a "normal" person has two donors. I think you see a clone as an empty vessel, or perhaps a parts donor. If you had an identical twin, that by chance was born fifty years after you, you certainly could not remove their brain and insert yours just because you wanted to be young again.
If your god dosent like it...fuk em!
I'm an agnostic. If there is a God, I'm not really sure what It likes or doesn't like. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/13/2008 2:33:21 PM |
Posted by eye8one2
those who wish to deny an infinite intelligence that is omnipresent........
blah, blah, blah...ok we have another nutball god believer in the science thread. I should go to some christian website and go to their messege boards and post some anti god stuff just to get even. Why do you guys always come in here?
Boy it seemed like you just wanted to rant about every little bug thats been up your azz about godless heathens, that you stuck it all in one bible thumping extravaganza!
Your not saying anything that we dont already know. The rich and powerful (which includes the christian church) control everything and thats the way it's been for centuries. Im going to address just a few of your points so you can get back to smokin whatever drug your on. Abortion, planned parenthood, birth control products is population control. pure and simple. We dont need to bring every baby into the world. There are too many GD people here already. We cant even take care of the ones who are already here. Too many homeless, people who dont have health care, jobless, working class poor. You dont own a womens uterus, they dont have to have children if they dont want to. So dont hand me this "Murdering unborn children" BS! Not when we go to war at the drop of a hat, and have Capital Punishment. Pro-lifers are simply about controling womens sex lives.
You will suffer horrendously very soon and at the hands of that which you presently worship.
You sound Rick Moranis in "Ghostbusters" He bumps into a taxi while running thru the streest shouting this BS. And the cabbie sticks his head out the window and says "Boy, what an azzhole"
G/L spiritless fools and peon tools! Remember, don't pack winter clothes as where you are going, it will always hot, think of it as a permanent vacation to the hottest spot in the universe and it will be your eternal soul.
Again..the age old threat. Your gonna burn in hell... blah blah blah listen ..I dont believe in your BS god or your BS religion. And man has been inventing his gods and religions since time began. And the concept of hell predates christianity by thousands of years. What makes you think yours is any more real then any other religion? Plus I instantly reject any god that allows children to be born with horrible disfiguring birth defects, while at the same time allows parents to beat the crap out of them. So fuk your god and the flying horse he flew in on!
Science is like celebrity, royalty, religion and so forth, a racket/scam that is at work to oppress truth and oppress spirit while promoting materialism and fiatism, fake existence.
Now this is an intersting observation... so scientists are con-men, scam artists, and magicians eh? Well then I guess this cell phone Im holding is really just a box of blinking lights. But you know what? I can actually call China on it. So you know what that tells me...that micro chip technology actually works! And also the artificial heart, the bionic hip replacement, Viagra, all things to improve the human condition.
But science is a rackert..filling our heads with lies. Like evolution, which has so much evidence to support it I'd have to call my friend (a college science professor) to help explane it. But instead Im supposed to believe that an invisible man who lives in the sky, had nothing to do one day because he was bored...so he decides to invent man and plop him down on this planet and instruct him to kiss his azz everyday and live by these rules or he'll throw us into hell! How could anybody with even one tenth of a brain even believe that? one question...what is Fiatism? other then the obsessive need to drive around in a little red Italian sports car!
No body wants to clone humans to make slaves and soldiers or for spare parts. They want to just simply clone a new organ possibly but without cloning the whole person. I was only fantasizing about real immortality. It could never happen. You cant upload a pesons identity into a computer. So we're stuck living only one lifetime. And when it's over there is NOTHING AFTER THAT! Say goodnight Gracie! | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/13/2008 2:57:33 PM |
posted by Hank
I'm an agnostic. If there is a God, I'm not really sure what It likes or doesn't like.
sorry about that
If you had an identical twin, that by chance was born fifty years after you, you certainly could not remove their brain and insert yours just because you wanted to be young again.
im not suggesting that. That would be killing my brother. And he'd be my brother because he came from both my parents. I think your under the limited impression that once a human is cloned and reaches 9 months, he comes out of the test tube or chamber and starts living a life. Then at 25 I have his brain wiped clean and insert my own. Thats not what I said. That would be murder. I was refering to leaving a clone in a developing chamber in an un-animated state untill you were ready to have your memory downloaded into it. If it's un-animated it wouldnt know anything anyway. I dont know why we're arguing about this. It's never going to happen. So we're stuck living only one lifetime. oh well | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/13/2008 3:46:03 PM | blah, blah, blah...ok we have another nutball god believer
I pass on reading past that statement as it is obvious the writer is all ego and has no spirit as is attested in the fact that childish insult put with assumption creates rhetoric and opportunity to debase the content and context of the original message.
In other words, they are professing to know me and what I believe to be God without even allowing myself to provide an explanation of what it is I personally believe in.
Those who are forever causing then escalating debate to strife are truly w/o spirit.
This is most certainly due to the fact that they are nothing w/o opinions and lies.
These are those who support war as peace, debt as money, lies as truth and ignorance as wisdom, with the latter being most important as it allows them to shine as scholars, blessed are the truly ignorant not those who are ignorant on purpose.
Those who are merely shells are always the ones who have the attack/slime/insult personality and such traits that are most akin to ape or animal.
Is this any wonder as it most certainly must be the cause and effect that occurs through believing ones ancestor slept with primates or actually was an ape.
The dogmas those who are all ego worship are far more fantasy driven then that of those who have accepted debased spirituality which is elite owned religious orders that still hold some truths, but much has been debased or removed and the industry is a cash cow and a wealth/spirit transfer mechansim.
REALEYES, this is the problem with those who are merely shells and nothing more as because of their own identity and the way they must conform to be like their peers, demands that they not fathom simple truths and try and confuse the issue and incite hatred via personal insults or childish acts, like little Darling Darwin Monkeys, who was a seriously racist and sick man, this is who you worship and those who are of spirit, you loathe as ego and opinion are worthless to truly spiritual beings.
Simple truth for Einstein, here are human beings and their are animal machines, peons or employees before people.
Parables are not theory, nor are they beliefs, they are lessons.
Atheism is born of those who live wrong,those believe that our life is of no true purpose and that man is the accumulation of his life experiences thusly stating we are nothing until ego arrives.
The dogmas that are within the industry and the commerce that is gained through implying ego is the most essential part of being extends the means and way for debate and strife which is the battling of egos.
Continue being a slave to material and continue to profess you are nothing without the opinion of another and that your purpose is defined by the level of interaction you undertake and initiate to further indifference and intolerance.
You seem to be pretty high on yourself and you try and belittle others which truly shows the intent within your actions.
Be dead, it is very becoming and your destiny.
And as mentioned, at least my ancestors did not sleep with apes. The whole dogma you grasp was created so as bestiality could gain accptance, at least, when you research the racist darwin and truly look at his works and his agenda, it seems as if that was his bliss, to be closer to animal.
Atheists lust for debate and strife, ego welcomes it as it enjoys illusion and fantasy. They are forever stealing time/potential from those who are of and for spirit/nature so as to puff up their imaginary self, ego, that which is like cosmic debris/worthless material, temporary and of no true purpose or no true good.
Thank you for providing me the opportunity to post something that may help someone who may be down to that last sliver of spirit, you know, when one is at that crossroad and may be willing to sacrifice that truth for a lie, to become fiat and experience material or superficial gain. truth can not reach those who have not a sliver or a click and there are 60 clicks to a clue, so many click-less atheists and nature gives clicks away for free while materialists slave to create fiat clicks...... 8)
I am glad I have spirit and don;t go around trying to be something I am not, trying to get under people's skin, it is so refreshing to not have to believe in anything, this comes when you know, belief is no longer an issue, it is only an issue to ego's and material worshiping fools. All you own owns you and the elitists and the peons who have all the wealth invested in people being ignorant and believing material and opinion has value, are ignorant no more.
Fiatism and the self-worshiping peons for life who live for sake of dying and destruction, are so close to earning their reward and this is new for them as all they have got to date has been stolen from man/nature through criminal and deceitful action. Truly the whole lot of them, they are wealthy in Karma which comes back 10 fold, but they are truly poor in spirit, actually completely bankrupt, they only spirit they own is bought with false riches, fiat money and material which in all truth, is absolutely worthless. The spirit woned by elites is the worst spirit to have, it is lacking in good and in truth.
No time to edit, attack spelling, attack words and personality, this is your job, continue advertising for your side & keep showing all those who read what you spew, how much greater ignorance is then wisdom. Show them how you use hatred and insult to become a better person and how it is so much more rewarding for your ego then that which comes through acts that show peace and include compliment, but that is reserved for when you wish to steal spirit from others, fulfill your wants, then lies can bring you pleasure.
In any event, all you with no spirit, you better start planning on your life after materialism and wasteful spending is a thing of the past. So many unskilled people with no true family or friends as they and those they surround themselves with are all glitter but no gold, superficial/materialistic animals who worship ego and deny truth.
 Even to those who are hate in the flesh, those who have not the spirit to be civil nor human, peace to you, peace, rest in it, soon. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/13/2008 5:51:22 PM | once a human is cloned and reaches 9 months, he comes out of the test tube or chamber and starts living a life.
He comes out of the surrogate mother's womb. A human clone would be a real person and given birth to, just like an ordinary person. Once born, that person would be ready to live a normal life - well, unless he was the first human clone. Then he'd probably be dealing with the media for a long while. Every time he had a birthday, they'd show up for another human interest story. | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/13/2008 8:46:21 PM |
He comes out of the surrogate mother's womb. A human clone would be a real person and given birth to, just like an ordinary person.
What the hell is the point then? All we've done is eliminate sex.
That isnt my idea of a clone. My idea runs a bit more to the sci-fi side of things. Im done with this exchange. Pardon me while I prepare to do battle with a real nutball! | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/13/2008 9:06:53 PM | blah, blah, blah...ok we have another nutball god believer
I pass on reading past that statement as it is obvious the writer is all ego and has no spirit as is attested in the fact that childish insult put with assumption creates rhetoric and opportunity to debase the content and context of the original message.
huh?? ok I take back that your a nutball god believer...your just a NUT!! Your entire post is nothing more then one threat after another.
In other words, they are professing to know me and what I believe to be God without even allowing myself to provide an explanation of what it is I personally believe in.
I dont give a shiit what your definition of god is...once you start spouting that bullshiit about burning in hell your immediately DISMISSED! I dont know who the hell you are, but you seem to revel in inchoherent philosophical ramblings! The more big words you use the more you seem to think that what you believe has credibility.
And why is it such a huge insult to you azzholes to think you evolved from a lower life form? "My ancestors didnt sleep with apes" What do you give a shiit? It happened a million years ago!
And for your information mr rocket scientist, Man did not evolve from ape. Man and Ape share a similar ancestry. Meaning that somewhere way back there was a common genetic denominator that connects us. You would have to be truly blind not to see evolutionary simalarities between us and primates. Only 3% genetic material seperate us.
And where do you get the gall to think your smarter then scientists? As far as Im concerned science has already proven it's credibility a thousand times over, where as religion has yet to produce a single shred of evidence to prove any god ever existed!
This dialogue has ended. Im not wasting anymore energy on a fire and brimstoner. Go to the religion thread if you want to hurl threats about our eventual demise. This thread is for free thinkers | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/13/2008 9:38:43 PM | prepare to do battle with a real nutball!
Sounds like multiple ego syndrome is coming on.
Before you spew more rhetoric and attack intellect with ignorance, I will state I have absolutely no want nor desire to exchange my time and the potential wealth I can garner in or on your "il"usion, my time would be better spent, contemplating paint colors for the inside of the cabinets I never open.
I'll let your ego know, I have no plan to reply nor to read anything something with no-spirit and fueled by hate has to say. You like watching cars go around in circles? You pay for that? I thought so.
You have to REALEYES, if a pimple appears, don't pick it when it is irritating as it will not go away and it could actually grow.
So I will give you advance warning and maybe in lieu of your hunt and peck typing at a few characters a minute, you may wish to invest the hate, rhetoric and ego in the threads that are discussing Britney or other matters that are for material-minded simpletons, you can maybe be a scholar their and you may find many peers to lookup to and get solid advice on how to live wrong and how to be a thorn in the butt of serenity.
Remember, spirit cares, shares and heals, ego, swears, blames and steals.
Maybe if you did some research, such as meditation, you know, look at a tree as more then wood, you may be in a position to create your on assumptions rather then pawning off the ego's and work of scam artists as your own belief mechanism. I have my personal knowledge and with it I know you to be a debased version of a collection of corrupted egos.
Most atheists are unable to create anything new other then false purpose for worthless things and or they are really good at mimic or actor, pretend, make believe. The generalli ape the work and understandings of others or make crude copies so as to deviate wealth from those who truly deserve it.
Yes to be atheist or even those who pretend to be a religious person, seems as it allows them a ticket to be deceitful and be one who is incapable of constructive conversation as everything that an atheist or fiat person involves in, gets debased and brings indifference and intolerance along with their lack of integrity and lack of accountability, this is why childish insult is so prevalent with those with no spirit or who are lies/fiat in their purpose and way of interaction with others.
So why not try and use some patience, it is a good spirit to be in, patient and in all truth, you don't have that long at all to wait to learn a big truth and once you have one, many can follow, try it, learn something. Learn a fact not someone else's theory or assumption, you may like it and your ego/personality may improve and your life and the lives of those you meet, may actually benefit.
In close,
Adios amoeba , go on, ramble on and remember, you're typing to yourself and advertising very badly for your kind or unkind.
You should take into account that those w/o spirit are needing more beings to sacrifice true self for ego as these days people aren't actually lining up to take a pledge trade their eternal life for an attitude and a disposition. Those who are forever in debate seem as to take great pleasure in spewing rhetoric and assumptions along with childish insult.
But anyway, peace to you, please rest it well! | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/14/2008 7:04:22 AM |
posted by: eye8one2
Maybe if you did some research, such as meditation, you know, look at a tree as more then wood, you may be in a position to create your on assumptions rather then pawning off the ego's and work of scam artists as your own belief mechanism. I have my personal knowledge and with it I know you to be a debased version of a collection of corrupted egos.
You are such an enormous azzhole I cant even beleve people like you walk amoung us! Meditation is not research. And a tree is a tree. A life form on this planet based on RNA(Ribo nucleic acid) I dont see god in a tree as your seeming to suggest. Yes I believe in science because science can prove what it says...thats called establishing credibility moron! All religion does is brainwash people without evidence untill the final result is someone like you. All noise and threats. And you have the nerve to set yourself up as some "all knowing mucky muck" who insults my intelligence by calling me an ameba? You make me sick! And whats with spelling realize as REALEYES? Is that some sick code? something only a lunatic like you understands? Do all of us a favor and stay out of the science threads. Go to the religion thread and post your BS there and then watch the sparks fly. Because those guys are so knowledgable they will eat you alive. Adios decendant of pond scum | |
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| A Human Clone. Will It Have A Soul?
Posted: 6/14/2008 5:06:33 PM | First of all I think I already made my point...however I read this.
The burden of proof is not on me the non-believer to disprove god, That would be like me dedicating my life to disproving the existance of unicorns.
Actually all three holy books say god blinds the minds of the unbelavers, so god doesn't much care if you or I believe in him or not. The fact is if we have a soul, than a clone would have one too. If we do not have a soul, then the clone should still be given the same rights.
Whether god exists or not, shouldn't be the deciding factor in how we treat a clone. The fact is that a human clone would have his or her own distinct consciousness. You people are over thinking this subject. | |
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