| Dating Male Virgins
Posted: 3/15/2007 9:52:23 AM |
I find it kind of shocking that people would write someone off based on their sexual experience or lack thereof.
It is not shocking; it is the way women are IN SOME CULTURES.
Women are attracted to men who radiate manliness. In some cultures, they view male virgins as less of a man than other men.
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Posted: 3/15/2007 12:29:34 PM | You stress IN SOME CULTURES, but I would argue that this idea is largely in the North American culture. Besides, I wasn't talking about other cultures, I was talking about people on POF.
In our culture, both sexes have been fed a lot of crap that they believe to be the actual case. For men, the idea that a woman has to have size C or above breasts to be considered sexy, and a firm butt... the list goes on. For women, guys have to be strong, muscular and be well-endowed.
There is also the whole stigma of virginity that I know for a fact males go through in our culture. As young men, we're told basically to get laid as early and as often as we can, as it's some sort of status symbol. If we don't, we're subjected to ridicule from our peers. We're told that we're not normal or labelled as gay. So I think for some guys they don't mention the fact that they're vigins because they know they'll be ridiculed.
The irony is of course that men who sleep around are studs, whereas women who do are considered sluts (by some, not all). Again this is thanks to society as a whole telling us how to view others.
As for your comment about women being attracted to men who radiate manliness, I'm sure there are guys out there women think are very manly but who haven't slept with a woman yet. Whether or not this happens in other cultures is entirely inconsequential to my argument as I was speaking for our society. | |
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Posted: 3/15/2007 12:33:26 PM |
For men, the idea that a woman has to have size C or above breasts to be considered sexy
That's not even close to being universal. I certainly don't feel that way and I'm not alone.
As young men, we're told basically to get laid as early and as often as we can
Really? By whom?
If we don't, we're subjected to ridicule from our peers.
Guess my peers had better manners. | |
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Posted: 3/15/2007 12:35:07 PM | Im not Quite a Virgin !!! but I have only slept with 2 women, Sad But TRUE !!! I'm 46 this year ? but how do I get Sexual Experience ? when I can't get the women in the 1st place ?
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Posted: 3/15/2007 1:48:58 PM | | vinnylow, are your posts always this angry? the ones ive seen so far are... | |
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Posted: 3/15/2007 1:56:33 PM |
vinnylow, are your posts always this angry? the ones ive seen so far are...
He's a twenty five year old virgin. I can understand how a bit of anger would creep into his life. What he doesn't understand is that anger is going to keep him a virgin. Displaying anger in these forums is not something women tend to find attractive and your last five posts do go on your profile.
Vinny, relax a bit. Have some fun and don't worry about having sex or not. | |
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Posted: 3/15/2007 3:09:20 PM |
You stress IN SOME CULTURES, but I would argue that this idea is largely in the North American culture. Besides, I wasn't talking about other cultures, I was talking about people on POF.
This would mean most people from POF are of the North American culture.
There is also the whole stigma of virginity that I know for a fact males go through in our culture. As young men, we're told basically to get laid as early and as often as we can, as it's some sort of status symbol. If we don't, we're subjected to ridicule from our peers. We're told that we're not normal or labelled as gay. So I think for some guys they don't mention the fact that they're vigins because they know they'll be ridiculed.
Of course they would be ridiculed, if they are from our culture.
Again this is thanks to society as a whole telling us how to view others.
ALL societies do that; that is just the way it is.
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Posted: 3/15/2007 5:44:23 PM | lol. put it this way...all the virgin's and less experienced people will be the only ones left standing if we don't cure std's soon. I know it's not funny, but i can't understand why sex is so important to most people. I've turned down sex because I don't want to lower myself to some of these overly experienced women. I love sex, but I have the self control to know when it will happen.
I hope all the virgins out there find what they're looking for, whether that be action or no action. Either way be proud of who you are. 
All the best | |
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Posted: 3/15/2007 5:51:13 PM | eeek
Society is changing. Even from I was a young lad. That wasn't even that long ago. Sex is the norm! If you don't get it your considered an outcast. Hense the peer pressure.
Kids don't play sports anymore, they have girlfriends/boyfriends. A lot even have sex for peet sake. It's getting scary out there. I'm always seeing single mother's that can't even be older than 16. | |
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Posted: 3/15/2007 7:03:02 PM | All societies do that? How would you know? Are you a sociologist? Or a cultural anthropologist perhaps?
As for your attitude that people should be ridiculed (as a way of "enforcing cultural norms") is just assinine. I suppose you also ridicule people who are gay because that's against a societal norm? Are you also arguing that people who choose to stay virgins for religious reasons should be ridiculed?
I'm curious why it is you think people who are different should be ridiculed. If everyone in our society conformed to others' perspectives then our society would be full of people who were all the same. What's the purpose of that? A society of clones who all think and act the same? | |
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Posted: 3/15/2007 7:13:38 PM | Interesting topic. The answer all depends on if he actually told me first. LOL!
But at what age do you begin to "owe" it to your partner to tell them about your Virginity, if ever?
Should Virginity be a private thing??? Yet when someone is 30+ and still one I think I'd kinda like to know, b/c my one experience with this was seriously annoying, something really seemed a bit "off" about the guy until I figured out he was lying about previous sexual experience. Then many, many things made sense. I can understand a guy feeling embarrassed about it. But I felt like I'd been used to "pop a cherry" thru deceit. Not good. The complete lack of his experience with the dishonesty about it, actually made for quite a creepy experience for me.
As for the comment about assuming there's something not quite right about a guy who's still a Virgin in his 30's... unfortunately, my 1 experience definitely supported that assumption. He'd also built up tonnes of really rigid views of sex by then, some of which were ... rather odd. Out of respect I won't even get into some of the physical quirks of a guy who'd just dry humped the pillow alone in his room for 16 years.
I guess if a guy told me he was a Virgin before physical stuff had occurred, and I wasn't getting "creepy guy" vibe from him, I'd be ALL OVER THAT. Total thrill!  | |
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Posted: 3/26/2007 1:56:28 PM | | I'm still a virgin, and I'm 30. I personally believe in waiting until I'm married to have sex, its just how I was raised. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2007 1:48:47 AM | | yes my posts are angry...i dont convey anger in person so this is where i vent and i dont think im out of line to be angry...its sortve like how a person with no family gets depressed on xmas because he sees every 1 else with their familys conveying holiday cheer...its similar to that..im a young man and sex is a very prominant thing for young men so im having something i want but cant have rubbed in my face everywhere i go it makes me angry...im angry at the fact that other guys flaws are ok but mine arnt im angry at myself because i am like a the faulty product previously mentioned im angry because i want to be good at things that im not...i cant talk right i cant do anything right its like having a job working on a machine that doesnt work guys who work on those machines 12 hr shifts often throw rage attacks....well my whole life is like a perpetual job on a faulty machine and i realize no woman will ever want me due to those faults but it doesnt mean i have to keep it inside..f uck that...im mad im venting. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2007 2:11:57 AM | well at least you vent, i just keep it all bottled up until once in a while i get  and  | |
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Posted: 3/27/2007 2:17:28 AM | I would say 20-25 virgin probably ok. I would be prepared for a committed relationship, the first time is a big deal, especially if he has waiting that long. Then after the initial excitement fades he will either be extremely committed and good for life, or desperately try to maintain the initial excitement, failing that he will likely experiment a bit to make up for lost time.
For someone 30+, that is a tough break, I would say only have sex with for love because there will be issues. Fact of life the people that play the game are the ones that "Win". You need experience with women to keep up with experienced women, or date an 18 yr old virgin that works too, kind of creepy though. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2007 2:22:32 AM | well i mean for almost every 1 else sex is a right of passage and every 1 thinks that any normal healthy adult ought to have had sex thus implying i am not normal or healthy which in my mind feels like im being made fun of for things that arnt my fault..why not go laugh at some 1 in a f ucking wheelchair.
p.s ive been humping my pillow alone in my room for exactly 16 years myself.. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2007 3:46:48 AM | Im 19 years old and im a virgin. For my first time Id want an experianced woman, Ive had sexual experiances with virgins (just not intercourse) and I dont think Id want one for my first time... the only thing worse than one person not knowing what to do is both ppl not knowing what to do.
What I find odd is the fact that as soon as it comes out that you are a virgin, women seemed instantly turned off from you (window of opportunity closes). I would like to know why this happens.
Being a virgin, I constantly catch myself thinking that it will never happen, and I often wonder why it hasnt happened. Is it me? Am I doing something wrong? In the end it seems like you just have to be at the right place at the right time, saying the right things. I try not to worry about it, what will be, will be... but I seem to stress over it anyways. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2007 4:57:53 AM | | i totally get the rite of passage thing, its utter crap and i hate it problem is its tied into our beliefs from a young age and we grow up with it | |
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Posted: 3/27/2007 7:22:14 AM | | I think that wether a male is a virgin or not should be their choice. Personally I think that a man who waits for someone special before he haves sex should be commened for it and not condemed. My first experience was with a virgin but then again I had nothing to comapre it with cause so am I but we learned together unfortunately he turned out to be a jerk but I didnot regret it for a minute | |
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Posted: 3/27/2007 10:41:01 AM | | *shrugs* not much to say for me in this matter, i'm 21 almost 22 and still a virgin, all my friends look at my crazy like but I don't care. I'm not waiting for that special someone, or to get married and its got nothing to do with religion I'm just...still a virgin *shrugs again* I've got no shame in admitting that I am one and when the time comes it comes however where i'm from over here in my town its very hard to find a woman who isn't some rich spoiled girl and/or willing to look past the virgin part, ah well to each their own lol. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2007 3:59:14 PM | If someone is actually waiting for marriage, or someone truly special, or has some other strong belief on why they are waiting then that is great. Male or female that shows strong character, and of course then putting up with the peer pressure bullshit shouldn't be a problem.
However, if you are 30+ and are a virgin for never having the chance and want to get laid, your doing something wrong. You are likely going to come off as desperate, sheltered, creepy, or worse. That will only get worse with age. Same with most rites of passage,
Other Example, First paycheck 16-18 great 18-21 good, 21-25 ???, 25-35 WTF!?, 35+ ..... Sorry man, behind the ball and hard (not impossible) to catch up. However, there are likely some women who specifically are in the innocence thing, so have to find out how to play to that crowd. Maybe look for women who married young, but got divorced. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2007 4:24:52 PM | | i dont accept that...its like saying because a guy is a bit "behind" that hes not good enough for real women so he has to be restricted to loosing his v-card to a 40 year old woman with 4 kids and 2 marriages behind her (im not saying those arnt real women...you know what i mean) theres lots of guys who are behind in other areas...i.e looks and personality but thats ok....you can be an ugly neandrathal who has no idea how to treat women just as long as you lost youre virginity at pueberty (god forbid any 1 waiting till theyre adults to have sex....*18 ISNT A REAL ADULT I DONT CARE WHAT THE LAW SAYS*) then everythings ok. | |
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Posted: 3/29/2007 8:04:48 AM | i'm a 22 yr old male virgin
kinda shy at first although i open up alot once i feel comfy around the girl
and believe me i know oral well never had a bj but i've gone down on a girl and she loved it lol i could tell from all the cum on me
just waiting to find a good girl who doesnt want just sex but an actual relationship | |
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Posted: 3/29/2007 8:05:16 AM | i'm a 22 yr old male virgin
kinda shy at first although i open up alot once i feel comfy around the girl
and believe me i know oral well never had a bj but i've gone down on a girl and she loved it lol i could tell from all the cum on me
just waiting to find a good girl who doesnt want just sex but an actual relationship | |
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Posted: 3/29/2007 8:40:30 AM | I've dated a virgin........I wouldn't do it again either.
We've since broken up but because I was his "first" he just can't seem to get past the fact that were no longer together.
I feel bad when I see him too *sigh*
Never ever ever again!
Jmo~ of course......and maybe if I met the "right" virgin it would be a totally different story :P | |
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