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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 9:24:56 PM | Be my guest.. and you could call it.. "Why are there so many Obama threads? and non-obama threads get deleted."
Because, like in the general election, you are outnumbered.
I wish there were more McCain threads myself, but every time someone starts one, their arguments are quickly squelched and it disappears into the archives. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 9:30:36 PM | | It's amazing, too, how quickly freedom of speech is squelched in threads here or how quickly they get deleted. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 9:33:21 PM |
Because, like in the general election, you are outnumbered.
I wish there were more McCain threads myself, but every time someone starts one, their arguments are quickly squelched and it disappears into the archives.
Big difference b/w here, a dating site with forums, than the General Election. There are scant few Conservatives here. It's fun for discussing/debating...but, I wouldn't put any stock into this being anywhere near a true representative of what it's really like out there on the election landscape. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 9:39:02 PM | | ^^^ Very true. Many Canadians know more about US politics than US citizens. Many voters probably couldn't tell you who the vice president is right now. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 9:53:32 PM |
Big difference b/w here, a dating site with forums, than the General Election.
And here I thought whoever won on POF got to be president. I'm taking my ball and going home!
"Wave to the crowd George" >>>>>  | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 10:17:53 PM |
And here I thought whoever won on POF got to be president. I'm taking my ball and going home!
Wait... wait... I'll petition for you to be President. The Forum Participants will vote you in just to pizz me off.
Then.... I say... (via a secret meeting of course)
Pick me... Pick me... Pick me...
I want to be V.P. or a Cabinet post...or Supreme Court. That way I can have the fame and good life ... without those sss from the American People.  | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 11:01:51 PM | .... way too much levity ....
and there's no way i'm posting....
.... i do think this the opinions do represent one of the biggest cross sections i see represented in any board anywhere....true the Canadians are some of the best minds on here though too so that is a factor but anybody with half a brain and a can look them self in the eye is just getting it at this point....it has been obvious that the majority of people wouldn't start to get it until they experienced much more pain ..... and the people are feeling the pain now......but nowhere near where we are heading .... the depression will seem like the good old days .....
....but hell yes, i am for Obama simply to put these guys behind bars, and i couldn't care less if loads of dems went with them, in fact i think they need to go too and clinton i count among them... | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 11:32:32 PM |
It's amazing, too, how quickly freedom of speech is squelched in threads here or how quickly they get deleted.
Maybe you better look at this as you seem to be labouring under a misapprehension that is all too common around here. FAQ - Freedom of Speech
After that, keep in mind that even the Constitutional Right to Freedom Of Speech in America doesn't come without conditions (no "fire in a crowded theatre" or "fighting words" ) and to imagine that its authors envisioned that any person would use said speech to hurl invective and abuse at others or engage in unsupported or uneducated babble across long distances is not only the height of anachronism, it shows a staggering misunderstanding of the spirit of the Age the creators of those Documents, the Founding Fathers lived and wrote in and were an intrinsic part of. But that's a moot point in any case...
The conditions of "free speech" on PoF are under the careful limits outlined above designed to engender conversation and debate, not provide as one other moderator described it so well as "a continued soap box agenda for fanatics and extremists" of which many frequently emerge so that the moderators and the forum community can play whack-a-troll with them.
TheMadFiddler | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/7/2008 11:56:06 PM | Oh, trust me. I know. I've read it all. I've even gotten PMs from Mods telling me if I didn't like (after seeing me post it in a thread), that there was the door and don't let it hit me in a$$ and there were other sites that I could easily find.
Nice. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 12:05:21 AM | If you've read it then, I wonder why you posted the complaint? It's pretty obvious why posts are deleted here. Either they are in violation of the forum rules, and mods delete them or other posters delete them for same.
And you should realise then that most of the time, posts get deleted by your peers long before the mods ever see them.
If most people posted after a thread search and kept within the forum rules, they would experience little to no issues.
There are little to no limits on what you could post about here, short of violation of actual Canadian Law...so what's the problem??? *shrug* In any case lets keep this thread back on topic please. If you have any further issues about this site, please take it to email. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 12:19:41 AM |
Why is it in every thread about Obama,what he believes,what he does, what he says, who he associates with, the conversation is steered towards Bush by the Obama supporters?Is it possible for Obama supporters to argue Obamas positions ,affiliations and views without redirecting the argument to Bush? I was just on a thread about the fist pump used by the Obamas and after only 3 posts by others the Obama supporter mentioned Bush, what does Bush have to do with anything about why the Obamas pump their fists or use any gestures?It is common knowledge on these Forums that many do not like Bush so why the need to constantly bash Bush when a conversation is clearly about Obama?I even notice this on news broadcasts someone will mention something about Obama instead of trying to research why Obama does, says or believes what he does they just say redirect the focus to someone else.
Bringing the Original Post back to focus....easiest way I figure is to do a c/p of the original subject matter. Works for me since I have a short attention span.
One theory could be that Obama simply does not have the experience under his belt and with that comes lack of 'quantitative and qualitative' stuff to debate on his behalf; therefore, the talk turns to what they feel is McCain's weakness (imho, it is not a weakness because McCain is quite different from Bush) and the only one they can really center on is Bush? Just a thought. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 12:32:00 AM | Basically democrats don't really have any good ideas of their own - so basically all they can do is criticize Bush. Bush is not running this year so you would think they would start telling us their plans but no - they still keep on and on telling us how horrible Bush is but still cannot tell us how they would make things all bettter.
I've learned that their are the doers and the criticizers. The doers get things done - the criticizers don't do sh** but criticize. Republicans = doers. Democrats = criticizers. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 9:09:17 AM | ....then let me explain it for you again using very small words...
...bush lied to the American people to get us to invade another third world county where lots of innocent people have died, 12 billion dollar in cash flat out dissapeared, 12 billion dollars are being spent there a month, and has put our economy into the shitter as a result....just like he did with the other "corporations" that he's ever been at the helm at.
now, we are talking about crimesa against humanity, acts of treason, and a betrayal of what our government is supposed to be about... if we don't do something about that as a people who claim to love this country then we deserve more pain....perhaps you just don't understand the weight of the words i've just written but if this sort of crap is given a pass then kiss everything else goodbye.... | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 9:30:42 AM | Basically democrats don't really have any good ideas of their own - so basically all they can do is criticize Bush. Bush is not running this year so you would think they would start telling us their plans but no - they still keep on and on telling us how horrible Bush is but still cannot tell us how they would make things all bettter.
I've learned that their are the doers and the criticizers. The doers get things done - the criticizers don't do sh** but criticize. Republicans = doers. Democrats = criticizers.
Actually I've found the reverse to be true... I can't count the number of people that I have ran into that are "Republican" but have absolutely no idea why. They say they are for certain issues and couldn't tell you the first thing about that issue. I'm sorry but most Republicans I've met are uneducated, uninformed, and just believe what Fox News tells them. That is in no way, shape, or form a "doer". My experiences indicate that Republicans seem to have box that contains their thoughts and are not only incapable of thinking outside of that box, but are also incapable of seeing outside of it. I tend to be a conservative Democrat as I feel that they are the party that will best protect the rights that I care most about. If you had even watched a single democratic debate, speech, or even googled the issues you would at least have a clue.
Enjoy your Box... | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 9:47:59 AM |
they still keep on and on telling us how horrible Bush is but still cannot tell us how they would make things all bettter.
Or maybe you refuse to read it. We've researched and posted strategies for change all over the place. Don't be such a criticizer. After the above post, it looks hypocritical. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 12:34:03 PM | The whole purpose of the original post was not to have a question answeared, but to attack Obama and his supporters.
Now I have not gone through every post, so I can not state if Obama supporters do bring up Bush when speaking of Obama on POF. I do watch a fair bit of news, and I have never noticed a trend of bringing up Bush when doing a story about Obama. It could be that most news shows group stories together that are similar, like putting all the sports stories together, world issues in one segment, and of coarse having all the political stories together. So maybe what the op was seeing on tv was in fact just having a story about Bush follow a story about Obama.
But of coarse people are going to campare a presidential candidate with past presidents, it offers a way to show who the candidate is. With Obama I have seen him campared with JFK on the news, as well as Bill Clinton, and I am sure by November he will be compared to a few other presidents. As for McCain he too has been compared to Bush as well, and I have even seen Reagon, and again by the end of the election he will probably be compared to a few other presidents.
Slightly off topic. Why is it that republicans can't talk about the Bill Clinton Presidency without bringing up the Lewinski scandal?
***WARNING CHEAP SHOT**
Earlier in this thread someone mentioned that the POF forms were more left wing then right wing. This might be because most republicans don't have internet access in their trailer parks. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 1:00:03 PM | It is common knowledge on these Forums that many do not like Bush so why the need to constantly bash Bush when a conversation is clearly about Obama?
Because they suffer from white guilt. Also, they can't sleep because Bush did his two full terms without impeachment. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 1:06:08 PM |
***WARNING CHEAP SHOT**
Earlier in this thread someone mentioned that the POF forms were more left wing then right wing. This might be because most republicans don't have internet access in their trailer parks.
You took the 'cheap shot' at a good portion of Middle America... which is the population who will elect the President. And, all the Ethnics in those trailer parks...
Your hit just went foul to right field. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 1:53:41 PM |
Because they suffer from white guilt. Also, they can't sleep because Bush did his two full terms without impeachment.
....i'm not white but your right, sleeping has been difficult seeing the framework of a country attacked like grasshoppers do an hay field on a hot july day, and knowing that people are so asleep they aren't seeing what is before their eyes.... | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 4:16:53 PM | I'm still laughing.
And Fiddler, you take yourself and my post way too serious. Lighten up.
White guilt?? Holy smokes. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 4:53:20 PM |
and knowing that people are so asleep they aren't seeing what is before their eyes.... This is true,it is exactly the way I feel about Obama and his radical agenda...wake up America before its to late.... | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 5:02:47 PM | | I'm really curious what is so radical abaout Obama's agenda. Please answear as I would like to know. | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 6:51:50 PM |
And Fiddler, you take yourself and my post way too serious. Lighten up.
Ha...myself...no no no...not a bit. But your post ehh...maybe. My bad. Consider it an occupational hazard and a lack of weekend beer. Oh well. I'll try to get lighter later  | |
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| Obama supporters and Bush..
Posted: 6/8/2008 6:54:37 PM | Darnit, madfiddler, why'd you hafta go and become a moderator??? You used to be in the trenches with us...now you're all.....fair and stuff.....party pooper!
Only kidding, I stand as always in deference to your wisdom, both in the trenches and with your mod hat on ;) | |
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