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Posted: 6/8/2008 7:05:46 PM | I'm really curious what is so radical abaout Obama's agenda.
I would like to know also. For example, starting a point blank war with Iran is not radical, but trying to talk things out before starting a war is radical? That is politically dyslexic. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 12:05:48 AM | the reason obama supporters can't discuss obama's positions instead of attacking bush is because the people that are swooning over obama typically are too emotionally invested in him as a candidate to bother paying attention to what obama's positions are. 99% of them that i have talked to personally do not even know what obama stands for, or what his supposed plans are. i have done a lot of reading up on obama, his time in chicago, and his list of advisers. i have yet to meet one obama supporter who knows as much about him as i do.
let's face it, he has a great sounding voice, he looks great in a suit, and he is charismatic. that is all these people care about, that and "...just get out of iraq." obama would be a disaster as president... from his economic adviser (austen goolsbee - MORON!) to his top foreign policy advisor ( former jimma carter administration - brzinzski) he is a train wreck waiting to happen. this self appointed messiah is going to change washington? really? if he coulnd't and DIDN"T change chicago, and crook county, the state of illinois, how on earth is he going to change d.c.? he's not! he's a joke! and those who support him are simply being told what they want to hear and they are buying it hook line and sinker....
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Posted: 6/9/2008 12:57:26 AM | Perhaps there's a lil sumpin' else involved here:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/06/06/notes060608.DTL
This link was posted before on another thread.
Here's a hint; it's not the voice. Change is inevitable; it's happening all the time. It's simply a matter of noticing it. But Mark Morford has already written what the rest of us wish we had...
Bang the fracking drum.
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Posted: 6/9/2008 1:14:59 AM |
originally posted by crash1967:
....then let me explain it for you again using very small words...
...bush lied to the American people to get us to invade another third world county where lots of innocent people have died, 12 billion dollar in cash flat out dissapeared, 12 billion dollars are being spent there a month, and has put our economy into the shitter as a result....just like he did with the other "corporations" that he's ever been at the helm at.
now, we are talking about crimesa against humanity, acts of treason, and a betrayal of what our government is supposed to be about... if we don't do something about that as a people who claim to love this country then we deserve more pain....perhaps you just don't understand the weight of the words i've just written but if this sort of crap is given a pass then kiss everything else goodbye....
Man, you just proved Intrepidinv right with that whole thing.
Bush was clearly a "doer" - He got a lot of "things" done. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 11:27:17 AM | faithnoman, I'm sure but the comment about Bush being a "do-er" doesnt work for me.
As I recall, in the first months of his presidency, nothing was passing through Congress and he was looking like a lame duck and a laughingstock right out of the gate and then, miracle or miracles, 911 happened and was catapulted to popularity as the War President and stuck with that ride ever since.
Followed by other wannabees holding on to his coattails........
To me, there is a big psychological things going on here, people who tend to not really want to tackle the difficult, thorny, complex, tough issues domestically....so much more fun to get on the white horse and try to slay dragons overseas.....or protect us from bogeymen ... nice black and white, good vs. evil stuff that sells well.........
Bush is a NOT Do-ER. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 11:28:46 AM | thanks for the diatribe, larissa, how many times are you going to go down the condemnation route?
Doesnt it feel a little "old" by now? | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 7:19:32 PM | Bushboy is a DO-ofus!!!! I know of some DO-DO birds that are smarter than that twit | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 8:27:40 PM | loveoregon: """"I'm really curious what is so radical abaout Obama's agenda. I would like to know also. For example, starting a point blank war with Iran is not radical, but trying to talk things out before starting a war is radical? That is politically dyslexic"""
YA, I find that odd, too. It's obviously a plan where we are going to commit economic acts of war against our "enemy", which is just another regime in a country we have had many differerent kinds of relationships with over the decades, until such time as we start a shooting war of some kind. And that's normal..........but diplomacy isn't?
Who do you do diplomacy with if not nations you have a problem with? And if not before a shooting war might start, then when?
Obama is being accused by McCain as being the radical, naive, an appeaser, etc. for wanting to open up negotiations with Iran .........I have to say, though, that what Obama suggests is why and how we pay for these SOBs and how they should earn their money.
There is NO downside to negotiation and using diplomacy. Frankly, I think if we got off our high horse and showed some real leadership instead of being "the superpower", just good international players, a lot could come of it.
But then, people like McCain dont want peace, do they. McCain seems like a guy who loves the attention and glory, the old war hero, back in the saddle again.........he gets his little rocks off, but we suffer and the world suffers, too.
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Posted: 6/9/2008 8:33:39 PM |
Bush was clearly a "doer" - He got a lot of "things" done.
Doer? Yes indeed. He "did" an illegal war we're having a hellova time getting out of. He turned an economy strongly in the black into red all over. He's destroyed our image in the world to such an extent that that alone will take years to fix. He's a doer alright. He's trampled all over the constitution and loves torture (remember the Geneva convention?). Warrantless wiretaps. Oh he's good alright. If there were two of him, it would make good bookends. Once and for all, please spit out that koolaid. It'll kill 'ya. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 9:31:48 PM |
an illegal war we're having a hellova time getting out of No matter how many times you tell the lie it doesn't magically make it true...Illegal? maybe so maybe not that has yet to be decided conclusively your side has such un-American ideas whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty...you guys remind me of the witch hunters in Salem.. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2008 9:39:26 PM | Yeah, I spose we should just shut up while we put our sons and daughters in the ground. Stop all that complainin' about dead people, ya whiners!!!
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Posted: 6/10/2008 5:02:32 AM | Pretty hard to be proven guilty when truckloads of evidence have been destroyed, but I have faith that truth will rule.
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Posted: 6/10/2008 6:24:08 AM | | Try running that "innocent til proven guilty" malarky by the Patriot Act. I'd better watch out before they come into my house while I'm not home. You know, that Patriot Act hasn't beared any fruit as of late. Oh yeah, Bush isnt running for office. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 6:45:56 AM | Bush was such a poor POTUS that any candidate looks almost god-like in comparison.
Obama has his flaws (only people w/ serious flaws would expose themselves and their family to the media circus that's in the American election process) but his flaws are so much less noticeable than Bush's that they invite comparison.
OP...are you sure that your support of Bush isn't clouding your judgment? | |
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Posted: 4/27/2009 10:49:41 AM | since we are bringing back old posts i thought i'd see if i could revitalize this one. what the H. i am just going with the trend.
why are all the obama threads being deleted...um..because people are stupid and say dumb things?
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Posted: 5/12/2009 6:59:52 AM | While you accuse Obama supporters of attacking bush* and not talking about Obama, it seems you have the opposite problem,; you only attack Obama and can't say anything good about bush*.
Hipocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue | |
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Posted: 5/17/2009 4:39:50 PM | nobushlover~
this is a very very old thread.
the joke was to bring back a very very old thread.
lol!
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Posted: 7/19/2009 9:31:23 AM | Here's a link to a very enlightening forum, full of what I hope isn't the typical Obama supporter. Scary stuff. And scary attitudes.
http://www.theobamaforum.com/showthread.php?t=10643 | |
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Posted: 7/19/2009 11:40:48 PM | Wow that was one seriously racist site.
Noticed a couple things:
(1) One particularly vile poster had two links at his signature area: the first was the New Black Panther Party, the second was Acorn! Why do you think that is? Hmmmmm......
(2) They sure use MFer as an adjective a lot over there. I also particularily liked the one that called white people "honks". Got a laugh from that. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2009 12:00:28 AM | | Like you said on another thread, the Clinton Death List thing and all. I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy. I gotta be entertaining if nothing else! | |
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Posted: 7/20/2009 2:06:57 AM | The black panther were a nasty group. No question about that, then again the right wingers who talk about uprising with fire arms if they felt their freedoms were being infringed upon?
The Black panthers were doing that, and violent movements always draw their share of nutbars.
It's one of the reason I think that entire line of reasoning is foolish.
As for ACORN, nobody has ever shown me a case where a vote was cast that shouldn't have been (registry is not the same as voting) or ACORN not co operating as much as they could or should with investigations of their workers.
Anyway, seems like an odd thread for a Republican to bring back up. They complained about bush bashing and now they want to raise an old thread about it.
(I know you weren't guilty on this one) | |
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Posted: 7/20/2009 11:52:25 AM | Here's a link to a racist website. Unfortunately, it does represent the typical conservative
www.rnc.org | |
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