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 smileee4u

Joined: 11/8/2007
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I have a problem accepting some women as equals (can't respect them).
Posted: 6/9/2008 8:43:36 PM
Women do this same type of behavior. If you think you were rejected as a man for being overweight.... just think what it is like for a WOMAN TO BE OVERWEIGHT. Just look at the media and how everyone is portrayed. Do you see any ugly or fat women who are successful and photographed... anywhere? Movie? Magazines? Anywhere? Now, look at men. Men can be successful and be fat and old, and still be donned at their sides with beautiful young, airbrushed women. It really does a number to us. Anyway, maybe you seem to have a spiritual battle you are fighting with. You have seen the other side of the coin... so maybe being around more sincere women could help you to overcome the "meat market mentality". Go get involved in social activities at the largest church in your area. Have some fun. Get to know alot of women as friends first. This will help to extinguish some attitudes, and may help you with the tremendous ego you are now starting to form.
 Caper143

Joined: 8/2/2007
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Posted: 6/10/2008 7:13:45 PM
Dia623...you're a gorgeous girl....don't ever let anyone make you feel different. I'm not thin...I've definately got curves but I still get my share of attention. Don't let the bitterness that you say you're starting to feel take over...it isn't going to hurt anyone but you. Good Luck on your weight loss goal! :)
 ex-navy

Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 53
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Posted: 6/10/2008 7:32:05 PM
Everybody has their own attraction levels. You mention the cuter type girls back in school- maby now you know how the not so cute girls felt. My point is that's why it's so important to stay in shape. People are really only physically attracted to people that are in shape- it's basic human nature. I'm an army guy right? You would expect me to be out having fun with sports and stuff like that right? Nope- I more of a mall/ video game type. I'm not that social either. I do like hanging out in the mountains and at the beach- but I don't like larger type crowds too much. Listen- it's not the nerd part that is putting them off. As a matter of fact, a lot of people are attracted to nerds, and besides- who wants to be attatched to a lazy person when there is so much to do in the world and so much to see?
 betterlate

Joined: 12/22/2006
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Posted: 6/10/2008 7:46:42 PM
I understand your message. I too had a situation that let me see the other side of people. I was pretty and thin and guys would ask me out but didnt care to know who I was, they really just wanted their friends to see them with me. I got my feelings hurt time and time. I really wanted someone to see behind the "package",, well then a drunk driver slammed into me and I was hurt pretty bad, had several treatments that caused weight gain, wow you should have seen the different way I was treated by men, women, friends and even family!!!

I lost the weight after the treatments ended... then all back to normal, then a new treatment the weight would come back and the bad treatment would start again.. just so shallow, I am still the same person if I am rail thin or heavy and it is worse when it is friends (so-called) or family.

Just be your own wonderful self, dont drag the past around with you. Forgive everyone and you will be free to be happy, let people learn at the rate they do.

You only need to meet one wonderful woman and they are out there, dont let anyone know you have $$$, live simply, keep things private and go slow when getting to know anyone.

Best of luck, keep up your spirits Just found out it is a troll/woman/ bs r

Betterlate
 shieldvulf

Joined: 10/30/2006
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Posted: 6/10/2008 7:51:33 PM
Wow, Bette, I was just reading about Mrs. John McCain - the first Mrs. McCain - and your story reads very similar to hers. Kind of a dictionary definition of this body image issue and how it plays out.

Here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

Cheers!

Vulf
 Dia623

Joined: 5/13/2008
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Posted: 6/11/2008 12:44:14 PM
Caper143-
You are sooo sweet! Thank you soo much! You are beautiful too! Awww I wuv you now...
 Caper143

Joined: 8/2/2007
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Posted: 6/11/2008 1:25:56 PM
aweee....I wuv you too, dia623...I simply say it like it is. You're obviously a good woman and like me...someday...some great guy will sweep you off your feet. Until then...anytime you need a little girl talk...hit me up!! :) Take care, sweetness!!
 Dia623

Joined: 5/13/2008
Msg: 58
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Posted: 6/11/2008 3:45:45 PM
Hey Caper! I already added you as a Fave!!!! lol! Funny I have more girls as fave's then men!!!!!
 Snake-charmer

Joined: 2/13/2008
Msg: 59
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Posted: 6/11/2008 6:49:45 PM
I agree- what kind of women do you wish to date? Are you attracted to overweight, awkward ladies who can barely make the rent on their job at a fast food joint?

Or are you attracted to nice-looking women who take care of themselves and are confident and self-sufficient?

If your answer is the latter, than apparently you are just as 'shallow' as you claim the women who are interested in you to be.
 Carrie Bradshaw™

Joined: 6/24/2006
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Posted: 6/11/2008 7:23:35 PM

I've noticed something recently, and its the fact that I can't seem to respect women.

I think all people are worthy of respect, until they do something to make them lose my respect. People earn trust with me and I automatically give respect.



about how that "nerd" asked them out.

I love nerds. I live by this rule, always be nice to nerds as you are going to end up working for one, one day.



Of course, like clockwork, I begin to attract women. Normally there are guys fighting for this attention and loving every minute they get, but in my case all that I can see is the difference in a woman's reaction to me and the fact that the only things changed are my body and my $$.

This happens to men and women too. Some women get plastic surgery or a boob job or something and/or lose weight and then everyone wants them, when before no one ever wanted to date them. The problem is twofold, that is just how society is and also, the person who is now a 'better version of themselves' then thinks others have a problem and just want to use them because before they did not get this reaction so now they have to be more selective of the people around them because they fear being used.



This, needless to say, has filled me with a great deal of resentment, and now if I even go out with a woman I treat her like shit. All I can think is, "you are only interested because I look like a nice piece of ass."

Ever hear men talk about women? All they talk about are asses and boobs and how they want to bang her and how hot she is.

I don't really have a problem with being resentful, but I'm worried that this attitude will begin to alienate me from women first, but then everyone, and that if "the one" were to come into my life, then I'd dismiss her without as much as a thought.

I think OP, you need to realize you achieved a lot and good for you so be proud of that. Also, you need to realize that not everyone who now comes into your life wants to hurt or use you. The people who paid you no respect before should not get from you now. Just be careful with the new people you let into your life and realize they did not know you before, just now.

~Carrie
 ther_mal

Joined: 12/3/2007
Msg: 61
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Posted: 6/11/2008 8:02:39 PM
hey op did your mommy not hug you enough? or was that your daddy hug you to much? just asking because your story about your reason for the hate get over it dude .
 Aurora772

Joined: 12/1/2007
Msg: 62
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Posted: 6/12/2008 6:59:06 PM
I'm going to say something different than all the other posters; some of them have tried to help; some have been kind; some have been pompous trolls.

I however, say this -- it's not that there's too much hurt in the world; it's that there's not enough. Those vain and shallow women NEED to be schooled. They need to shown what their mindless chasing after money gets them. They need to understand that all that glitters is not gold, and you're just the man to teach them. Think of yourself as the hammer of God and you'll be on the right path to balancing the scales, one broken heart at a time.

Ok, in all my hurt and angst, even I don't believe that, despite my love of Procrustean justice. Anyhow, OP, until you get over your hurt, you'll just continue to hurt others.
 katt_411

Joined: 3/22/2008
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Posted: 6/12/2008 7:14:11 PM
So, OP, you treat women poorly because of puberty (?) ... wow. Must be hard being you ....

btw, I'd warrant a guess that puberty sucked for most people ... best to get over that kind of stuff early. Life is much better that way.
 GrandmaBooBoo

Joined: 12/30/2006
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Posted: 6/12/2008 7:46:42 PM
Thoughts? Sure, gain back the weight, dump the $$ and go back to being a nerd.

Are the "women" you're now attracting the SAME "friends" who talked about you behind your back? Then I don't blame you a bit for paying them no attention whatsoever. IF however, you are rejecting and "treating like shit" women that did NOT know the former you....then GROW UP......you're being an ass!

It's not easy being pretty, or having money.......anyone who told you that LIED!

Aside from the fact that....on the INSIDE....you're still the fat, broke, geek boy, you've developed a rotten personality to go with the new OUTSIDE. I've always said that there was a reason God made some people ugly....it's because He knew what jerks they would be if he'd made them good looking. Chronic self pity is an ugly trait to have no matter what your physical appearance. You are NO BETTER than the self righteous slobs who rejected you previously. Taking out your PAST resentments and hurts on someone who didn't even know you back then is hypocritical and mean spirited.

Soooo, tell me.....how does it feel now being the same kind of person that you always pretended to hate?
 8567

Joined: 5/4/2008
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Posted: 6/12/2008 7:56:12 PM
Ok a women gives birth to kids, and kids are a life time investment that cost $$. So yes women don't want to a have a broke guys baby..what kind of life is that for there kids who need everything paid for them. Second no one wants to eat something they don't like and same goes with kissing etc...if you want to get mad than be mad, but your not going to change nature.
 indehills

Joined: 2/23/2008
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Posted: 6/12/2008 7:57:21 PM

You are one ANGRY guy!


No he's not. The OP's profile is a fake profile designed to stir up negative comments and reactions. And even though I said he was a troll way back on page one, he's managed to get 3 pages of negative reactions.

An angry guy? No. A Narcissist who craves attention whether it's positive or negative? Most likely.
 L80nw8ng

Joined: 7/2/2007
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Posted: 6/12/2008 8:02:21 PM
I had the same problem as you... except I was a woman. In junior high I was a bit dorky for a girl. I was really smart, not prissy. Was in band. A tad overweight, but not much. Very plain.

Then in high school something happened. Not sure what, but the guys were really into me. At first I liked it, then it became disgusting. I had a child in my teens, then another, and the attention continued to disgust me as I had a family, wanted to build a life... and all the men just wanted to play. And I felt alot the way you do.

So I went without a relationship for 10 yrs... yes 10 yrs! Went to church, went to college, raised my kids. Married a man, had last child, then divorced from a very abusive relationship.

But during those 10 yrs, I made some really amazing male friendships... got some incredible insight. And learned important things about men that i never knew.

Not all men are my equal and worthy of my respect. (and neither are women for your case).

Take some time out and make some real close female friendships. Pick their brains. Dont judge them for what they think and feel, just try to gain a "bigger picture" understanding as to why. Some you will be disgusted with... others you will think, ok I can see that point..."

Then when the right one comes along you will be able to see clearly and give the right woman the respect she deserves.
 *Damayla*

Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 68
I have a problem accepting some women as equals (can't respect them).
Posted: 6/15/2008 4:45:11 PM
I just read your profile and with what you wrote there, I really don't think that your seriously looking for anything. As well as your only 22 years old and whatever you have gone through in the last 10 years .. Well its all about growing up!!..

If you really want to change and believe in what you want you would work towards that. So either get therapy for your past ~ or move forward in life and learn lessons along your journey with an open mind.

Most of us were "ugly ducklings" at one point or another and dealt with our demons of puberty....

So if your hot now and have money as you say ` Stop being arrogant about it and grow into being a gentleman.. and treating women with respect... If not then you 'reap what you sow' in life.....
 crayonzz

Joined: 11/14/2007
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Posted: 6/15/2008 4:53:43 PM
My thought is that if she only goes out with you because you look like a nice piece of ass then she doesent deserve your respect anyway.
Interesting gender reversal isn't it.
 princess_kiki

Joined: 4/14/2008
Msg: 70
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Posted: 6/15/2008 5:00:02 PM
Hey

Now you know for about 2 seconds what it is like to be a woman. The only thing men are interested in the first year of a relationship is what you look like, so it is unfortunate that it has happened to someone who was never a big playa.

Another thing to think about is that no relationship is going to work without sexual attraction. How many of the girls you ased out were really unattractive? not too many I bet. you liked the popular girls like everyone else cause they were hot. It is human nature to want the strongest and most powerful man. That does not mean that the women are not truly interested in you as a person. You just have more of wut they are looking for in a partner. that is not something to resent, but if you are treating women badly then you are the one who needs to go work your issues out. best of luck
 ~rain~

Joined: 6/9/2007
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Posted: 6/15/2008 5:03:49 PM
Personally I think you did us all great justice by presenting your forum post...

Now women everywhere will know in advance..to stay the hell away from you!!(except those who will "try and change you") For those women, I will look forward to their silly forum threads.

Thank you for that!
 cdngodfather

Joined: 6/10/2008
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Posted: 6/15/2008 6:11:12 PM
wow OP after reading your initial post, I have one thought , brother you have issues and the solution to that is T H E R A P Y

Lets say that even slower T H E R A P Y, sing it from the mountain top................. Therapy , Therapy, Therapy I have issues and i need some T H E R A P Y.
 mysavior

Joined: 3/1/2008
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Posted: 6/15/2008 10:52:41 PM
>>Personally I think you did us all great justice by presenting your forum post...
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>>Now women everywhere will know in advance..to stay the hell away from you!!(except those who will "try and change you") For those women, I will look forward to their silly forum threads.
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>>Thank you for that!

:)

If only every a**hole announced himself like I have.

...if only...
 MacDuck1958

Joined: 1/22/2008
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Posted: 6/29/2008 7:25:34 AM
Sounds to me as though you are just bragging about how changed you are. It is natural for women to look for a man that has the best attributes to be a father for their children. The fact that a woman does not want children anymore will not change her opinion and instincts. I believe you know this all through your life and you do not have the maturity to change. If you meet a woman that likes you in your present successful state, what the hell gives you the right to be resentful towards her. You should concentrate on changing your thought patterns and give up on your 'learned behavioral traits'.
 EagleEric

Joined: 11/2/2006
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Posted: 6/29/2008 8:12:37 AM
Your thread is filled with disdain and resentment against women. It doesn't matter whether a man is fat or thin he either likes the opposite sex or he doesn't. From your post it's pretty clear you're the latter.

Especially revealing is you don't seem aware that coupling or relationships are two sided. What I mean to say is the woman has a choice in the matter. In the past, they rejected you for your physical appearance or so you say. Actually I'd bet it was more than this. I think you harbored the same dislike of the opposite sex as you do today.

No long lasting relationship can be built with the feelings you have. Unless you can develop a positive attitude towards women, I'd forget about dating or you'll be in for a lot more misery than you can possibly imagine.

The Eagle
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