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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 2:07:10 PM | If a person works for a company for (say) 20 years, they get a pension. It's the same with the military. You're saying that just because the man has some wealth he doesn't deserve the pension he earned for putting in 20 YEARS of service? OMG.
It's hypocritical to say that some people deserve the money and not others.
On one side of your face, you're stating that disabled vets deserve financial support. With the other side of your face you're saying John McCain, 20 year vet who was disabled during his service in Viet Nam, does not.
This "debate" makes no sense whatsoever. Either the man does or does not deserve compensation for what he went through. To whitewash the whole thing by mudding up the water with "other vets don't get as much" is meaningless diatriabe! How is this the fault of John McCain? | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 3:44:24 PM | | What are your qualifications to question what a veteran receives in disability benefits? Did you ever serve in the military? If so, for how long? Do you have any idea of what a VA disability pension is? It is earned by an individual for any disability caused by injuries, illnesses and living/working conditions while serving in the U.S. Armed Forces. It is broken down into percentages for the severity of area of disability. John McCain is also a retired naval officer who was held as a POW for over five years during the Viet Nam War. Furthermore GI Bill benefits are completely different from VA disability. If you had ever served in the military you would know that. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 5:18:27 PM |
Isn't it a bit odd that John McCain, who is refusing to vote for the GI Bill for our troops because "it's too generous,"
McCain isn't against the GI Bill, he is against the proposed changes to the current GI Bill. Big difference.
McCain, who own eight or nine houses, should be getting $58k a year tax-free from the government for a technical disability?
I haven't heard he is even drawing a disability payment, but the question should be "Did he earn it?" Held a POW and tortured for years and years would make me believe any of his disabilities are not just a technicality.
I mean, the man built his own lake to go fishing at one of his 8 or 9 houses. Yes, he served his country. But something is wrong when we're paying millionaires $58,000 a year, especially when those same millionaires complain that we were being "overly-generous" to our troops currently fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. At the very least, it's terribly hypocritical.
I find it interesting that you are against upholding current laws regarding compensation for veterans, but are all for changing something as successful as the GI Bill has been for decades with little thought to the repercussions on the retention rates of the armed services.
Imagine if a Democratic candidate been profiting to the tune of $58,000 a year from the feds for a "disability."
Can you name a democratic war hero who was tortured for years in a NVA prison camp? I can't think of any at the top of my head, but find one and we can talk about if the government should honor it's obligations to it's veterans, regardless of their income. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 6:28:37 PM | $58K is a big disability allowance. I know a kid who did two tours in Iraq, got shot n the head, he has two plates in his head and cords running down the sides of his neck from inside his brain down into his stomach to drain cerebrospinal fluid........and he gets $100 a month, a 10% disability.....at 21 years old.
That's $1,200 a year.
By the way, if McCain has such serious disabilities, coupled with his age, should he be President with all its physical and mental demands? | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 6:34:44 PM |
$58K is a big disability allowance. I know a kid who did two tours in Iraq, got shot n the head, he has two plates in his head and cords running down the sides of his neck from inside his brain down into his stomach to drain cerebrospinal fluid........and he gets $100 a month, a 10% disability.....at 21 years old.
That's $1,200 a year.
Thank you for making the point. The way the vets are treated is appalling. If McCain was so into honor, as to not leave his friends
MCCAIN WAS OFFERED EARLY RELEASE AND HE REFUSED IT.
CHOOSING TO STAY IN CAPTIVITY TO SUPPORT HIS FRIENDS ALSO IN CAPTIVITY.
THIS MEANT 5 YEARS IN CAPTIVITY. CAUSE HE WOULDN'T LEAVE HIS FRIENDS.
This is all I need to know about the man. This kind of HONOR is very rare.
Why doesn't he donate his $58,000 he gets a year to truely disabled vets who need it? | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 6:40:55 PM | The kid of which you speak, did he serve for 20 years? What rank was he? How many years was he held captive? This is all pertinent to the amount of money he would receive, and no, I don't buy that he's getting $100 a month. Even if that was true, what does McCain have to do with it?
My Dad was a vet, my Grandpa also. I know what they received in benefits and it was based on all of the above.
Why doesn't he donate his $58,000 he gets a year to truely disabled vets who need it?
Why don't you donate your salary / pension to those more deserving? I'm sure McCain has donated more money in one day than you'll make in a year. Show me that he hasn't, and then (only then) would that argument hold any water.
You're just making wild accusations with little or no facts at all. Big shock. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 7:00:07 PM |
The kid of which you speak, did he serve for 20 years?
The kid of which he speaks was shot in the head, he'll be dealing with that the rest of his life, you think that would have an impact on you, you know, having some empathy. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 7:09:17 PM | You'd think that you would understand that part of the benefits of which you speak are RETIREMENT benefits. Some of it is due to disability - but it is based on many many factors: Rank, years of service, disability, and years in captivity. Heck yeah his benefits are going to be more than someone with less time served. That's why it's a pension.
Your argument has been all along based on McCain's money. You aren't very empathetic to all his suffering in Nam are you? Hmmm?
You keep building all these strawmen to divert from the real issue...
Does McCain deserve to get disability?
Yes, He was disabled in combat and tortured in captivity.
He deserves compensation.
Is it John McCain's fault that other vets aren't getting their fair shake?
NO. John McCain had nothing whatsoever to do with the compensation other vets get.
The only real issue here is that YOU are judging him for having too much money. To which I say, good on him! He deserves every penny this country gives him. He made millions for himself? Awesome, the man knows something about making money. His wife is the one with the millions upon millions and he has signed away any right to it!
I don't know. I guess if you were a military man, or had served one day for this country instead of sitting around pointing fingers at those who have; I might have a little respect for your opinion. You refuse to discuss anything, you just keep pointing fingers and complaining.
Here's a suggestion, go out and DO something about it. John McCain is!
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 7:16:03 PM | I see your point HOWEVER, if he gave up his right s to that money, what do you think the government would do with the extra $58,000? he government currently does not have a system to redirect that money efficiently. They would probably spend twice that amount trying to figure out what to do with it.
He is fairly wealthy but his wife is the one with all the dough. I'm sure he and she together contribute to plenty of charities well beyond that 58K. Lastly, he is entitled to that money, that was the ruling of the time and for his years of service.
I'm not sticking u for him, just the facts. I'm voting for Obama! He is too old to be the president, I don't care what his bill of health right now. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 8:35:22 PM |
Can you name a democratic war hero who was tortured for years in a NVA prison camp? I can't think of any at the top of my head, but find one and we can talk about if the government should honor it's obligations to it's veterans, regardless of their income.
Not sure how this is relevant, but - - -
Pete Peterson, former Congressman from Florida and Ambassador to Vietnam under Clinton.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Peterson
Phil Butler, one of the very longest held POWs (7 years 10 months), supported Kerry, and is an outspoken Democrat supporting the very left wing of the party.
http://www.pownetwork.org/bios/b/b110.htm
$58K is a big disability allowance. I know a kid who did two tours in Iraq, got shot n the head, he has two plates in his head and cords running down the sides of his neck from inside his brain down into his stomach to drain cerebrospinal fluid........and he gets $100 a month, a 10% disability.....at 21 years old.
Total permanent disability takes a while to get. If this kid's PERMANENT condition turns out to be as it is now he will eventually get a much higher percentage, and probably 100 percent.
Also as aspiring_angel mentioned the dollar amount of permanent disability depends on years of service and rank, in addition to the severity of injury. Being a POW is also a consideration when determining disability compensation. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/8/2008 10:11:30 PM | As far as I'm concerned McCain is welcome to his disability income. He's earned it.
As for WHO served:
Democrats
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan.
1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments.
Entered draft but received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII.
Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.
Republicans
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
*****Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon! Kyl: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.
* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
Pundits & Preachers
* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
* Michael Savage: did not serve.
* George Will: did not serve.
* Chris Matthews: did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
* John Wayne: did not serve.
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
* Michael Medved: did not serve. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 4:10:15 AM | While I might have many reasons to be critical of John McCain I would never ever question the justice in his receiving a military disability pension. Whatever the amount is, it would be the same for any honorably discharged service member with his same military career, degree of disability and POW experience. I believe that to question McCain's right to that pension is to show disrespect to all disabled veterans. Your post is rather foolish, OP.
That said, I certainly won't be voting for him in November.
Obama 2008!
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Oh, Wooby, hunny! That explains everything about Rush Limbaugh!
What is pilonidal disease?
Pilonidal disease is a chronic infection in the skin slightly above the crease between the buttocks. It develops in a cyst (pilonidal cyst) at the top of or next to the crease between the buttocks (overlying the sacrum). The cyst may look like a small dimple (called a "pit" or "sinus"). Hair may protrude from the pit, and several pits may be seen.
See a picture of a pilonidal cyst.[Um, I said no thank you, just the same!]
A pilonidal cyst can be painful enough to make sitting or walking difficult, and in some cases pus or blood may drain from the pit. Hole on azz = azzhole? | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 4:32:46 AM | He's getting it for disability, and he's working. Seems fraudulent when the definition of disability is:
The term is often used to refer to individual functioning, including physical impairment, sensory impairment, cognitive impairment, intellectual impairment, mental illness, and various types of chronic disease.
And from the military's own website:
Veteran's Pensions
If you are a wartime veteran with a limited income and you are no longer able to work, you may qualify for a Veterans Disability Pension or the Veterans Pension for Veterans 65 or older. The following is a summary of Veteran's Pensions:
* Veteran's Pensions Eligibility
* The 2008 VA Payment Rates
* The Application Process
* Related Topics
Many veterans of wartime service are completely unaware of the fact that if they are 65 or older and on a limited income they may qualify for a VA Pension without being disabled.
Veteran's Pensions Eligibility:
You may be eligible if:
* you were discharged from service under other than dishonorable conditions, AND
* you served 90 days or more of active duty with at least 1 day during a period of war time. However, 38 CFR 3.12a requires that anyone who enlists after 9/7/80 generally has to serve at least 24 months or the full period for which a person was called or ordered to active duty in order to receive any benefits based on that period of service. With the advent of the Gulf War on 8/2/90 (and still not ended by Congress to this day), veterans can now serve after 9/7/80 during a period of war time. When they do, they generally now must serve 24 months to be eligible for pension or any other benefit. But note the exclusions in 38 CFR 3.12(d), AND
* you are permanently and totally disabled, or are age 65 or older, AND
* your countable family income is below a yearly limit set by law
Family Income Limits (Effective Dec 1, 2007)
If you are a... Your yearly income must be less than... *
Veteran with no dependents $11,181
Veteran with a spouse or a child $14,643
Veterans with additional children: add $1,909 to the limit for EACH child
Housebound veteran with no dependents $13,664
Housebound veteran with one dependent $17,126
Veteran who needs aid and attendance and you have no dependents $18,654
Veteran who needs aid and attendance and you have one dependent $22,113
* Some income is not counted toward the yearly limit (for example, welfare benefits, some wages earned by dependent children, and Supplemental Security Income. It's also important to note that your medical related expenses are considered when determining your yearly family income.
The VA Payment Rates:
VA pays you the difference between your countable family income and the yearly income limit which describes your situation (see chart above). This difference is generally paid in 12 equal monthly payments rounded down to the nearest dollar. Call the toll-free number below for details.
Example:
Joe (a single veteran) has an annual income of $5,000. His annual income limit is $11,181. To determine Joe's Pension subtract his annual income of $5000 from the $11,181 income limit which gives him an annual pension rate of $6,181. This translates into a monthly pension check of approximately $515.
© 2008 Military Advantage
http://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/veterans-pensions
Seems like he's being greedy and milking the system. He's very able bodied, not in a wheel chair, and not paralyzed/housebound. Seems disingenuous to take more from the vets, seeing he's fit enough to run for president; when the average Joe is getting $515 a month. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 4:52:31 AM | "I'm sorry for all he's been through, but it just does not seem right that he gets this pension when he's not in financial need, yet people with no other source of income have to get by on a disability pension of far, far less. What is his attitude toward disability pensions for the average citizen, does anyone know? Is he for raising them to a liveable allowance? If he's not, then he's a hypocrite for accepting this money, IMO."
I totally agree with the above statement.
What are they using it for? The maintenance of the swimming pools of their several homes? Shoe's for the dogs?
It is just excess to the ninth degree.
Give this money to the poor homeless veterans I see on the streets every day, not the greedy rich f@cks! | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 5:10:49 AM | "Who says that McCain can work? If it's a physical disability or a mental disability, it's between him and his doctor. You have to qualify for such things you know. Some physician HAD to sign that waiver."
If he can't work why is he applying for the most important job there is in our country? Since he won't be getting the job, he should stay home and collect his welfare check. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 5:14:36 AM |
McCain is a hypocrite for accepting these very healthy benefits while at the same time refusing to take care of others that have participated and suffered in the war.
You make it sound like there are no veteran benefits currently or that they are not generous enough. Yet, at the same time you are critical because McCain's vet. benefits seem too generous. McCain is collecting just like any other would in his situation. So, am I to understand you feel McCain should get even more? Perhaps you are in favor of a means test to collect one's benefits? You appear to be saying that you think his benefits (which are just like anyone else’s) are too high but argue at the same time that these benefits should have been increased. I’m not picking on you but your post seems self-defeating. Again, I’m not picking on you just a bit confused with your post. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 5:22:19 AM | From the April 22, 2008 LA Times article on this topic:
Certain types of military and veterans pensions are either partially or completely tax-exempt, depending on the seriousness of the disability. In McCain's case, the exemption is 100%.
If McCain had to pay taxes on the full amount of the pension, it would have increased his tax bill by about $18,000 based on the percentage of his income he paid to the federal government.
McCain spent 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in Hanoi. After he was released in 1973, he returned home on crutches and began a painful physical rehabilitation. He later regained flight status and commanded a Navy squadron before retiring from the service in 1981.
McCain would be the oldest man to enter the White House if he is elected president, and questions have been raised about his health.
McCain has twice developed melanoma, a potentially deadly form of skin cancer.
The fact that he is legally designated with a disability pension may raise further questions.
"It is a legitimate question to ask about the commander in chief: Is he fit to serve," said Robert Schriebman, a senior Pentagon tax advisor and tax attorney who recently retired as a judge advocate for a unit of the California National Guard.
If McCain can hike across the Grand Canyon, then why should he be getting disability payments from the government that are tax-exempt, Schriebman asked.
McCain shattered his knee and broke both arms when he was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967.
In his autobiographies, McCain said that his knee still bothered him in cold weather and that he was unable to raise his hands above his shoulders.
Elmo Baker, a retired colonel and president of a Vietnam War POW group, said many former POWs were receiving some type of military pension that was partly or fully tax-free.
Baker said he was receiving payments that were 70% tax-free, but that he "didn't have as many injuries as McCain did."
Many of the Vietnam POWs are receiving payment under a program known as "combat-related special compensation," which provides benefits and tax exemptions under a complex system, based on such factors as the type of injury and the years of service.
Paul Galanti, another former POW in the group, said that while McCain's injuries were serious enough to qualify him for disability, it would not affect his performance as president.
"I don't know of any physical requirements to be commander in chief," Galanti said. "He would have a nice car to drive around in and a nice airplane to fly in."
John McCain is legally entitled to his military pension. I honor his distinguished service and I don't begrudge it to him. We will be no better than the infamous Swiftboaters if we pursue this issue. We are and we must continue to be better than that.
Still...
Obama 2008!
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 5:42:13 AM |
You make it sound like there are no veteran benefits currently or that they are not generous enough. Yet, at the same time you are critical because McCain's vet. benefits seem too generous. McCain is collecting just like any other would in his situation. So, am I to understand you feel McCain should get even more? Perhaps you are in favor of a means test to collect one's benefits? You appear to be saying that you think his benefits (which are just like anyone else’s) are too high but argue at the same time that these benefits should have been increased. I’m not picking on you but your post seems self-defeating. Again, I’m not picking on you just a bit confused with your post.
He's not disabled, bedridden, home bound, in a wheelchair, disabled. He's running for president, traveling across America, and receiving disability. Don't you find that odd?
This pay rate is for someone 100% disabled.
He's arguing for restrictions on GI benefits. The issue is that McCain says benefits for Veterans are too generous and the Webb GI bill is too generous ,but he collects $58K in VA benefits a year. The issue is the hypocrisy. Do all Vietnam vets get $58K a year?
We're not talking about his pension, we are talking about the disability payments he gets.
The pension he gets is separate. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 5:56:56 AM |
Why doesn't he donate his $58,000 he gets a year to truely disabled vets who need it?
How do you know he doesn't? Most people dont brag about their charitable contributions.................................... | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 6:17:36 AM | Remember Senator Max Cleland of Georgia? He was that guy sitting in the wheelchair in the Senate, with no legs and only one arm.
...Cleland ... served in the United States Army during the Vietnam War, attaining the rank of Captain. He was awarded the Silver Star and the Bronze Star for valorous action in combat, including during the Battle of Khe Sanh on April 4th, 1968.
[The wikipedia article goes on to describe how Cleland was grievously injured by a grenade explosion.]
Due to the severity of his injuries, doctors amputated both his legs above the knee and his right forearm. Remember how Senator Cleland's patriotism, of all things, was questioned by his Republican opponent (Saxby Chambliss, I think)? It was despicable! I'd guess that Cleland had a disability pension, too, and well deserved! But there was the man, sitting in his wheelchair, working hard in the U.S. Senate.
Would you be questioning his disability status in the same way?
McCain not only had the courage and strength to endure his captivity and horrible injuries, but to even rehabilitate himself enough to go back and finish out a full military career! He deserves every bit of that pension!
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Edit: I just saw this part of your post:
We're not talking about his pension, we are talking about the disability payments he gets.
The pension he gets is separate. This doesn't sound right to me. Where did you get that information? I don't think they're separate pensions.
There are enough real issues to fight McCain on. Why choose this one? It only makes you look mean-spirited and silly. There is such a thing as honor and McCain is honorable. We must be too, lest we be the same ilk as certain Republican candidates! (Now don't make me jump through this screen and slap you for embarrassing Senator Obama!)  | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 6:22:02 AM | I do collect my disabilty after a 4 year battle and 2 lawyers. I am epileptic and often have my driver license taken away due to seizures. If I work for more then 9 months in my LIFE and make more then my little $640 in my disabilty check well then my case will be reviewed. I can very easily loose my $ and medical and that 4 year court battle would start all over again. Or I can go find a job that wants to put up with a pre existing medical condition...$2700 in monthly pills and phone calls that say well I had a seizure cant be in to work for 6 months or so...
Damn I should have joined the military before the year 2000 I would have it so much easier! Getting a job at 14 paying my taxes voting and then asking for my money back was such a silly thing to do.
Veterans do have a loop hole that civilians do not. He will never have his "disability checks" touched. Mine will be looked at closely until I am 65.
He did serve our country I give him that credit....but geez people!
I know plenty of Iraq Vets who are "claiming" PTSD and collecting the same lifetime benefits no wonder out economy is in the crapper. That stats of how many GIs come back and cry to Uncle Sam about how they cant get a job because of what the saw in the desert then want a free ride is outragous. Maybe if he want to be the future president he should make a stand. PTSD is a 80% disability hahaha....they also get free college man would I like that. Free computers printers even paper. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 6:35:00 AM | he was a POW and tortured, has physical limitations die to this...
he desrves not only medical care free for life from the govt
but also whatever pension they give him for his 20 plus years in the military.
I can't believe how anyone could read something negative into the benefits
he gets as if he is trying to cheat anyone.
He desreves more if you ask me.................
vote McCain 08 !!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally a man who actually served for this country !!!
finally... not a wimpy rich kid or fast talking lawyer. | |
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| Why is McCain getting $58,000 a year in disability income?
Posted: 6/9/2008 7:08:24 AM | ^^^ @ Stubble:
If I work for more then 9 months in my LIFE and make more then my little $640 in my disabilty check well then my case will be reviewed. This is not exactly true. Find out more details about your Social Security benefits. They'll actually encourage you to return to work if you can. My state even offers a buy-in to Medicaid health care for workers with disabilities. It IS true that you stand to have benefit checks discontinued if your earnings (for the nine months of the "trial work period") exceed a certain amount. Find out about "IRWE's" - Impairment Related Work Expenses, which could reduce your amount of "countable" earnings. (I'm on disability, too.) If you do succeed in going back to work then your symptoms again make it necessary to quit, you'll have an easier time than the initial process in getting your benefit checks reinstated. Don't take my word for it, check out some advocacy groups who can help you.
It may be true that Social Security benefits aren't as secure for those who are able to return to work, compared to some veterans benefits. But on the other hand, one doesn't have to go to war and risk death to get them, either.
I hate to hear anybody disrespect veterans with PTSD. Their suffering is very real. Many are too proud to go and get treatment. Many have committed suicide from it going untreated.
McCain went on to retire from a full career as a military officer. They retire comfortably, even without disability benefits. | |
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