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Posted: 6/17/2008 2:35:43 PM | galonhemt Your opinion of the way i look is yours and even though i disagree i respect it I have no idea what you said about seperating the wheat from the shaft and i respect you for not reading or reading this post .Good luck in the future
PS Icant comment or reciprocate on the way you look because your pic is not up. But i would imagine you are beautiful and pretty, certainly not sexy and inviting. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 3:33:46 AM | well if a guy contacts me says im sexy, attractive, alluring i think hes after something, and if its from a 'guy of a certain age' i think hes either desperate, sleazy or trying to relive his youth.
if your asking women to be 100% totally honest , i would rather have a compliment off nick, than have one of you.
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Posted: 6/19/2008 5:31:23 AM | Hey coarlan, the OP asks us for our opinions then shoots us down, calling us id**ts and other childish names, when we dare to say we are offended by such first contact lines as the one he proposes to use. He needs to grow up and realize that others are allowed to have different opinions from those he seems to think are ok. In his profile he speaks of respect, and wanting that returned (not a quote). Well, my observation of his behavior in this thread and others is that he has absolutely no respect for women who have the audacity to speak their mind.
Seems we have ourselves another troll, my dear felllow posters. I, for one, will no longer bother to post in any further threads started by this man. He is only here to try to force his opinions on others, and doesn't care to even try to respectfully listen to what they are saying in their responses.
Nick, Wayward, Branes, Namats, and many, many other men who have posted here and in tableguy's other threads show much more class than he will ever possess. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 6:20:53 AM | | coarlan :same here i would rather have a compliment from nick then you | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 6:27:28 AM | | ive met peuple in my life who are id**ts but none like you .Please dont post anything on my thread again. As i said before jimmy stewart is dead and somebody should grow up.Having said that i wish you the best of luck and health. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 9:33:33 AM | Saying '..Sexy and Inviting..' have Nothing to do with 'Political Correctness'....
It's a matter of Manners and Tact, my friend...!!!
[...makes you sound like a Californian..!!]
You owe _Several_ Ladies Apologies... _Including_ Ms.'cuddly'...!!!
I can't stand being 'Politically Correct', ANYway...!!!...
I indicated to a woman at work that I hed a receeding hairline....
' Oh...You're 'Folically Challenged', are you...?? '
While I found this Fairly Cute...I discovered that she does that with almost EVERYTHING...!!!
After several days of it...I was 'Forced' to give her a Map...
and tell her 'Where To Get Off'...!!!
I'm going to ask he next person that says that they're 'African-American'....
" Really..?? How recently did you Move Here...?? Do you know Gary or Ernie??"
Gary Player and Ernie Els are African-American, Too..!! | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 10:15:06 AM | tg you hit on the classic male dilema. if i dont compliment the ladies looks she wonders if there is something wrong with her or me. if i do many think im just after their body. its a no win situation sometimes. best advice i ever got was just go from your gut about how you think this particular person is. and truthfully we can give a tasteful compliment without offending too many people.
one thing though guy if you meet someone on a first date and talk about dating her, as in steady dating, that can be taken all kinds of wrong. for me i would never in my wildest dreams go out with a woman a second time who demanded or even asked for an exclusive relationship after one date. i would never ask for one either. i want to get to know her a whole lot better before that all kicks off. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 10:48:08 AM | I'm betting if I ever told a man right off the get-go he looked sexy and inviting, one of two things would happen:
a) he'd be an undercover cop, and I'd be behind bars for solicitation
or
b) I could possibly have myself a one-night stand
Neither is a situation I'd like to be in, therefore also not how I'd prefer to initially be approached.
It's got nothing to do with being p/c, or 'scared', rather it's called (mutual) R E S P E C T
- sing it, Aretha!
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Posted: 6/19/2008 10:54:09 AM | ^^^^ (sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me ... Respect!)
Yepp ... hard to figger how this thread has got so much mileage. But I guess those things that should be common sense can get very difficult if you need to explain them.
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Posted: 6/19/2008 12:28:51 PM | I love passionate men. Passionate about life, passionate about their hobbies, their jobs, their families, their friends, about getting to know me, what I care about, who I am, whether I'll meet them... questions, questions, questions.
Passionate about what I look like and whether they're likely to get their leg over? Nah, not so much. So many of those around here, any emails like that are likely to get sent to the sleazebag bin I'm afraid. Not because I'm prudish, or Victorian, or scared. Just because they're boring, run of the mill and the odds are they get sent to every woman on the site until someone responds.
BE passionate. About the WOMAN. Not about what she looks like or the fact she makes you feel horny.
Sorry to repeat what almost every woman has told you so far. But personally I like to feel that it's ME that a man finds attractive, not me-as-one-of -ten-thousand-who-also-make-you-feel-horny. That's why it pays to wait a while before telling women how you feel - once we have an ongoing dialogue and think you're talking directly to us we're more likely to believe you mean it and not assume it's just another line. (Of course, that doesn't mean you DO mean it, or that you're not saying it to another thousand women at the same time ) Just my opinion. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 2:15:56 PM | namats, you are a good guy, and you have your ways, most people will recognize its you when you email or post a message.Apologize, me ,what for, but as i say different strokes for different folks.good luck | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 2:17:24 PM | | passion comes from within, I think to many people have turned to greed and the what's in it for me attitude that to share, love and be a true companion is few and far between. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 2:23:54 PM | | parrothead, you get it, welcome to 2008.The word tasteful has evolved over the years and again if someone at all feels he or she is beeing offended please filter, or dont respond. We all have different tastes. Some on this post would go along with what i said some would feel offended, it all depends where you stand. Whats that line , we cant please all of the people all of the time. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 2:27:01 PM | cdn guy its hard to figure what common sense you have. But here you are again
But you do come from a good place | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 2:43:29 PM | | misty,The operative word is almost. Some woman dont mind what i WANTED to say (i have really never said it on an email). As i said in an earlier post the word tasteful has evolved and different strokes for different strokes. I get lots of emails from women on different sites who are 45+ who are naked and wanting to experiment. I dont think i have to go further, you have the choice whether to answer or delete.Everybody has that choice .But please dont act holier then now buy using the word sleaze.I appreciate your very insightful outlook on this thread even though i will go into the sleazebag file | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 2:46:38 PM | Okay, 'table'....
We all have our *Faults*....you just demonstrated Yours...
..like...couldn't you just have *Edited* the last 3 posts Together.....
rather than making 3 Separate Posts...in only _12 minutes_ ??!!
[How come _I_ can't get away with the 'No more than 2 in the last 10 Posts' rule...??]
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Most people can -Recognize it's Me- .. by my N a m e...and...Photo...!!
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Posted: 6/19/2008 3:10:34 PM | | Hugs i am hearing it pretty lady(I am scared to say baby, it might offend)Ah take a chance on the cop at least you know he is honest (i think).Respect is also how you initially being talked to.Good luck | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 3:13:47 PM | | namats; And beyond | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 9:34:10 PM | Well, this thread sure has been enlightening – NOT! You started a thread & then sat up there at the head of the table (so appropriate name) saying things periodically:
I wanted to be passionate by saying things like, you look sexy and inviting but i was scared … Is an outburst of passion dead or for 45+ is it dead.
… folks told you that an intro like that could create the impression that you are out for a quickie or that you don’t put enough thought into your message to set you apart from the other guys
if you are like me you are scared of what it sounds like rather then what it is
… & so you should be concerned about blurting
key word here is misunderstood … Why would a woman perceive this is a bad impression rather then an honest feeling (based on honest pics & profiles) … is if this is feeling of all woman or the ones 45+
… we all tend to get smarter and deeper with age and experience & want to read initial messages that show the guy has looked at both the woman’s pic plus the profile that she put some effort into creating
There is nothing crude or vulgar about such a remark. Some woman can handle the compliment.
… compliments are great – the closer we get to people, the more intimate the compliment can be without being taken as crude
There are two ways to skin a cat one be nice at first and then devour or be genuine at first
…. Oh, I see the problem. You want to pet the kitty, not skin her you &%$
two gendres (you must mean gender) on this site i meant the feeling of the male without being crude and offensive.If anyone finds it not to their liking they can ,either say so, not respond, filter that person.I guess there is a big difference between under 45 and over 45
… so then you really don’t want an answer. You just want a stage where you can tell people to quit being offended and just delete your messages
I on the other hand am a cruel vulgar human looking for broads to f-----k
… maybe you should be looking for ‘intimate encounter’
If i get he's a nice guy, that TO ME is offensive, This is a dating site and if i find the email offensive there are ways to filter them out.
… SHEESH, now we have to worry about offending you by being NICE!!!!!!!!
We might want to be more passionate in some circumstances. However, I guess for me the mark of a mature man is that he is passionate but his passions are 'governable'. He is in control of himself. In fact, I find the combinations of passionate but in control, strong but sensitive, etc., to be most exciting and compelling.
… you tell this guy that he is right on but it seems like you don’t get it.
If a female finds my message offensive than with all due respect i dont want a reply.
… k. well, then you don’t have a problem and this thread is too weird
ive met peuple in my life who are id**ts but none like you .Please dont post anything on my thread again.
… oops, maybe said too soon. This is YOUR THREAD … sorry grand master of passion
Thats right what we need is more rationality, thought etc. when answering, an ad on a dating site.
You tell me that I
obviously dont know men and dont know how a man reacts initially when he sees a pic and profile of a woman
Well, when I put a picture up, like anyone who does, I get more responses. I do accept the wonderful compliments but I am left wondering if the guy that contacts me has read my profile to see how likely it is that we can connect. I’d prefer to get initial emails that seemed to have some thought – some way of showing that I am not just another face with a nice smile, eyes …. Or great legs, butt, cleavage …. All of those bits and pieces.
I do (okay, back in the time when I had pics posted) get sweet compliments from young and older guys from near and far who “only want to say …” and they give me a great compliment … love the ego trip. I could handle any number of those messages -- I think. They are just nice little compliments.
But any contact made from a local person who seriously want to meet should probably consider putting in some effort/ content besides “You look sexy & inviting.” | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 2:02:09 PM | | amo, hello you have spent alot of time on this subject. Just imagine all the time you must have spent getting my quotes out of context. You did hear of the word context I see you didnt mention people who do like to be referred to as sexy and inviting. Next time read the whole thing and dont just read quotes that bolster your argument, otherwise you will be called an id**t. Buy the way nice legs?. I do wish you good luck and the best of health.Next time i wont forget to bow and drop my jacket on the wet road,like Errol Flynn. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 6:53:10 PM | Actually, it was quit a simple and quick task to pull the salient blurbs out of your posts and put them together into a summarized format. I don't know that you need worry about being misquoted as everything was copied in order, pasted & responded. If anyone would like to see if I have misunderstood or misrepresented how I have interpreted your statements, they can read the long version. I just took it upon myself to summarize your comments.
You know something, I really don't need the jacket on the puddle treatment. I don't know that these fairytale women exist but I can sure tell you that I have never been the type of woman who was drawn in by anything more than courteous behaviour.
Never mind the few minutes it took to put together my one post -- good grief, we have waisted a colossal amount of time in total on this thread just    and how is it that we better understand each other now? Funny, I thought that the point of the threads is either fun or to learn -- I suppose it can be to air a point of contention but then, shouldn't you be clear about that. Tell it like it is and don't make it look like you are actually wanting opinions (now I really wasted time). | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 7:03:51 PM | amo-vida, do you treat all your mean like this?
I meant, "men".
Sorry. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 7:52:25 PM | Let's at least try a little honesty. I doubt that you are sorry and that's fine. I'm not sure that I treat all men the same way. I believe that I do begin believing the best in people and expecting that they are capable of the most basic logic.
I don't believe that I called anyone by an offensive, derogatory name. I responded with a well-thought out statement & reached a point where I realized I was a complete idiot. There is clearly a different agenda going on and I was slow to catch on. Silly me.
What sort of treatment do you take issue with? And it does seem as though you are implying that I am being unkind.
OT: I have browsed through the pof series of men's pictures & profiles, stopping to note a guy here and there who catches my eye. If I read his profile & think that he also sounds interesting (maybe funny, clever, thoughtful ...), I will be bolder than my usual self and write a quick message that will compliment both his picture and whatever it was in the profile that also caught my attention.
Kind of an aside:
Do men in this >45 group think that they are alone in the lust department? Over 45 women also have passion and urges. For the men who have come to believe that women hate sex, your stats have been gathered from personal experience. Put it all together and you get ....
Let me put it a different way, other men are with women (of all sorts of ages) who love sex so ...
Aw, why be mean now? | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 7:59:56 PM | Now you are making excuses 'never mind "" good grief..." "summarized format"
It is quite ironic that you are the judge on courteous behaviour's, fairytale women, do exist and in my mind, you are one of them.
As far as my blurbs, were concerned , they were not misquoted i suppose they were pasted and responded, if you want to call it that.That was not my issue.My issue was CONTEXT If you read all, i was courteous to people who were likewise, and not so to the ones that werent.Yes sitting at the head of the table i learned that your opinion is a waste of time These sites are for fun and learning, i had neither Having said that i wish you good luck and the best of health. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 8:18:11 PM |
Over 45 women also have passion and urges
I'm sure they do. However, it seems they choose to satisfy those urges in verbal forms instead of sexual ones.  | |
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