| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 5:09:01 AM | | I think that those that have committed serious crimes (did a quick check can't find a definitive version but the usualy suspects crop up) should be discluded from winning the big payouts. A simple check by Camelot could ensure it. Currently there is no rule aboot this, mabbe you should write to camelot? | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 5:31:59 AM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So does this mean that they can win the small prizes? Its ok for camelot to take the stake money every week, but as long as the ex-cons only get small prizes they can have it? Would ALL the people who gamble on the lottery every week be comfortable with the fact that if they win a big prize would be subject to a scrutiny usually reserved for people who apply for security work, or to adopt children? and does this sort of treatment encourage anyone who is being rehabilitated to stay on the straight and narrow? what happened to care and resettlement? Its too sweeping a notion to ever be given credence in the real world! | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 6:02:57 AM |
isnt it about time that camelot takes a leaf out of "who wants to be a millionaire", and withholds winnings of people with serious criminal records. this money then could then be used to aid and assit the victims of crime.
The victims are perfectly entitled to take the person to court if they feel they need to.
Where is the line drawn under serious criminal record? Grand theft as apposed to petty theft?,murderers but not those who commit ABH or GBH? Those that rob banks but not those that commit benefit fraud?.I cant see how such a notion could be fairly carried out. | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 6:37:33 AM | This type of issue will never stop - in the same way I believe many of the top class footballers' and managers in this country who have a criminal record should never represent their country. But many would laugh off that arguement - people from many walks of life have criminal records - what consistutes a serious criminal record?
Tony Martin? - Killed and disabled two burglers on his property - was imprisioned for murder. Yet many would support him and his mother if indeed he did win the lottery.
Michael Carroll? - Petty criminal - serial shoplifter and many charges of public order offences. Not the same type of criminal as Tony Martin by the state of justice and law. Yet won big on the lottery and is still living the petty lifestyle.
There are many answers to this subject - But I believe once you have served your time within the justice system - then you should be free - No question.
Papa Lazarou | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 12:49:51 PM | think it is the case about some guy having sex with a girl who told him she was a lot older than 15 years and he got caught, served his sentence and a lot later bought a ticket
Profits might well have been set up to aid charities, but also used to prop up the NHS and others
agree that people in custody should not buy any, but once sentence is served.... | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 1:17:17 PM | | ithink you will find op that camallot is not its self a charety it is a lisenced gambeling buisnes who donate money to charety and good couses and if you were as you put it a big time criminel that won the lotery you would be there like evryone else cashing in your ticket seems to me a bit of sour grapes whats wrong you never won the lottery lol | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 1:51:06 PM | Hell lets go the whole hog.
I think we should stop people with criminal records from buying things in the sales, using two for one offers, redeeming any vouchers in magazines etc. In fact anything that could be classed as getting something for nothing etc. etc.
Going back to the lottery...How dare those cheeky folk with criminal records dare to buy a ticket in the first place.
Sheesh. | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 1:55:07 PM | | So anyone that has a criminal record in your opinion doesn't deserve to play the lottery????? that includes those with driving convictions as well ??? Then the lottery funds would be dwn a hell of a lot each week!!!!! The lottery is the ppls lottery and providing your not in prison its open to everyone..... The same as the right to vote...... | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 2:07:27 PM | i dont think prisoners do have the right to vote...it is still being debated in parliament.
You cant have grey areas here. You either let anyone play regardless of their background or no one plays. Start introducing boundaries and you open a whole can of worms. Where do you draw the line, anyone with a criminal conviction. Someone who in my opinion is not worthy of playing. Where does this lead us, maybe people with criminal records shouldnt sit on the same bus as me. Maybe i have a criminal record from my youth that i regret and will for ever be peanalised for it.
There is always in these gambling situations it will sometimes appear that the less needy end up winning.
VVVVVVV
Was trying to search online for it but cannot find anything. Still being talked about as a bill...not sure. | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 2:10:17 PM | | There is of course nothing to stop anyone, saint or sinner buying a ticket and picking up any winnings. I would personally like to see a disclaimer imposed by the courts that if any crim is convicted and goes on to win any amount of money, a %age of that money must be paid towards the investigation and any costs towards upkeep of the person for time spent in prison and a %age goes towards reparation (figure to be determined by indepndent body) to the victim.. a bit like a student loan, you pay it back when you earn enough to do so. | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/11/2008 2:13:40 PM | post 30 ,
the girl was 15 , he knew she was 15 , he used the she told me she was older defence .
the girl was too scared to press charges so he was charged with a lesser offence .
as for all those people who say i posted this because i am jealous , just for the record i do play the lottery , i have never won , and yes one day i would love to .
but this is not about your average petty criminal winning its about people convicted of sickening crimes winning .
ok the guy that won last week had served his time ( on a lesser charge because the police could not get the girl in question to press charges through fear ) but the rapist who bought his ticket whilst out of prison on day release was still a prisoner , and is still a prisoner i believe , so how should he be allowed to win | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/12/2008 8:06:47 AM | | the geezers done 15 years for raping some one comes out wins the lotto if his mum brother or any relation put it on for him then claimed it who would know its very hard to say they shouldnt have it maybe they could take 15 years back pay what it cost to keep him in the nick and the court costs and compensate the victim of the crime its a very hard one to call dont know if they could do that legally does anybody know the legal side to it i would like to know | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/12/2008 8:20:55 AM | Hmmm, Start of a slippery slope me thinks...
What next, anyone who was unemployed who wins has to pay back their benefits if they win?
As far as I'm concerned, if they've completed the prison term they were sentenced with then let them back into society and make no distinction to them from anyone else.
If current sentancing guidlines are too lenient then that's a different matter. | |
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| Should camelot payout winnings to people with serious criminal records.
Posted: 6/15/2008 3:57:29 PM |
why should an ex offender with a serious criminal record enjoy the trappings of luxury Because he is an ex offender meaning that he has served his time, therefore he has just as much right as you or anyone else to play. Playing the lottery can be seen by many as a bit of harmless fun, but it is in fact gambling. Does this mean that people with previous convictions should also be banned from all bookmakers? | |
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