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Posted: 6/19/2008 8:16:12 PM | | Strange somewhere the OP said she didn't come here for advice, the title she gave this post is " Need Advice" and it sounded like the common sense concensus was to cage them if she is going to feed them, actually the only intelligent solution, a few 2x4's and some chicken wire, which if she applied for a shelter permit she would have to have , period, end of story, so , since this is too difficult for her to comprehend, how is she supposed to have the wherewithall to run an actual animal shelter? | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 10:18:13 PM | once again...no, I did not ask for advice on if I should or should not be helping them or even how to go about it....(though some of the more intelligent ppl on here have had some good ideas on finding them homes)....nor did I ask for advice on motherhood, my intelligence, or what anyone thinks of me or if they think my neighbor is right...all of ya'll gave that unsolicited...
once again...the question was...
does anyone have any better ideas?
& does anyone know what they'll do...should I get caught stealing it?...
as in, any better ideas other than stealing the cage, to get her to leave them alone....& what would happen if I got caught red-handed....
nor did I ask anyone how to keep them on my property...1st..I live in a sub-division & they would not allow that to be built...& 2nd...she was trying to catch other ppl's cats too.....you don't seem to understand that with some of these cats it took me months to get them to the point where I could pet them....there are some that come around that I'm never going to be able to pet.....nor did I say I was trying to run a shelter...I'm just helping out the local, homeless cats....now, is this too difficult for you to comprehend caskey?
also, the problem is solved anyhow...as she isn't going to get another cage & I've taken to going over & speaking to her a lot....giving her some badly needed company & making sure she doesn't need anything & that wonder of wonders..I haven't even needed to scoop, as there hasn't been any poop her yard....I'll be helping her plant her rose bushes this weekend....so unless someone close to me is interested in adopting a kitten....I'm really done with this post....thanx for all of you kind ppl who tried to help...& for all you cat haters...I feel sorry for you....you are really missing out....
just saw these post from Gotapulse & RSwindol....& while they really aren't worthy of a reply....I gotta say you're right....I have no knowledge of even basic law...never heard the phrase "innocent until proven guilty".....you're right...I can picture it now...I bet they would have a jury...it would be in all the papers...they would deliberate for weeks on a verdict....gosh, they'd probably bring out the electric chair....
you're right...I have no idea how to spell people...thank you so much for teaching me...
death is a part of life, if you save them now, you are only prolonging the inevitable
....you're right...giving them a few years of life is awful....hey...maybe you should quit prolonging yours....make some space for some more kitties...----the overgrown child.....& thanx...I'll take that as a compliment...as I pray that I never become as "grown up" & uptight as ya'll are....
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Posted: 6/20/2008 1:29:06 AM | ^And still, even in parting you still don't get it.
It's not what you're doing for these cats that's the problem. It's what you're doing to your neighbour ! You have no right. Why isn't that getting though ? | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 3:01:51 AM |
also, the problem is solved anyhow...as she isn't going to get another cage & I've taken to going over & speaking to her a lot....giving her some badly needed company & making sure she doesn't need anything & that wonder of wonders..I haven't even needed to scoop, as there hasn't been any poop her yard....I'll be helping her plant her rose bushes this weekend....
DUDE!!! Obviously she gets it or she wouldn't be trying to make amends with her neighbor. Geez.
OP- To answer the question that this thread was REALLY about...I would suggest continuing to build a good rapport with her. Do what you can to find the kitties homes (hey, ask your new 'friend' to pass it around to her regular group of friends that you have free kitties....ya never know, they could all want one!)
As far as stealing the cage goes....ehhh...what's done is done. In the future I would suggest forgoing the illegal activity...just in the unlikely even that you do get caught.
~Welder's Girl~ | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 3:08:25 AM |
nor did I ask anyone how to keep them on my property...1st..I live in a sub-division & they would not allow that to be built...& 2nd...she was trying to catch other ppl's cats too.....you don't seem to understand that with some of these cats it took me months to get them to the point where I could pet them....there are some that come around that I'm never going to be able to pet.....nor did I say I was trying to run a shelter...I'm just helping out the local, homeless cats....now, is this too difficult for you to comprehend caskey?
Alright....damn....yer a little cranky aren't ya? You'd think you'd know a little bit where some of us were coming from with the actual friendly advice.....after all.....we were just trying to do a 'good deed' too....you have become the forum equivalent of your haggy neighbor. Good luck to you though!  | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 6:23:30 AM | SimmahDahnNah....I'm sorry....I didn't even see your post before that....it's just everyone attacking me on things I never asked advice for....puts me on the defensive....did you read some of the crazy stuff they are saying?...guess I should just ignore it, as I think they are just enjoying arguing & insulting & it's getting very monotonous...
you are absolutely right....& I would love to do just that...but where I live, they would never let me build the cages & have that here.....I can see myself living in the country one day though & doing just that...
I don't mind being the "crazy cat lady" one bit...I find that animals make better ppl than a lot of ppl...oh excuse me...people.....they are real & actually have hearts...unlike a lot of ppl I know...aka...see above post...
thanx & take care... | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 8:45:06 AM | so there is no communications available with this neighbor...
leave the neighbor alone.. just like you have the right to care for the cats... they do have the right not to have them on their properity..
sorry the cats suffer.. but... what right do you have to attack your neighbor... at least they aren't using a kill trap... | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 5:01:25 PM |
you obviously know nothing of how the law works....suspicion just doesn't cut it...you need proof....
I would also like to point out that by posting this for millions to see, you are incriminating yourself. The last thing a smart criminal would do is tell the world of their intentions before committing a crime.
once again...no, I did not ask for advice on if I should or should not be helping them or even how to go about it....
When asking for advice, you can't always dictate what advice is to be given. You should just quietly pick and choose what advice to take and who not to take. Otherwise, don't give people an opportunity by asking.
as in, any better ideas other than stealing the cage
I have a better idea than stealing the cage. How about NOT STEALING THE CAGE. But then again, you have said that you don't want that advice.
with some of these cats it took me months to get them to the point where I could pet them
I bet you got to that point buy enticing them with food. So if you can entice them with food to bring them in, then why can't she entice them with food to get rid of them? Seems like fair game to me. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 5:26:53 PM | | Thanks for clearing that up, Pandora, and I'm sorry I called you a hag :( But if it makes you feel any better, I call myself Hagatha on bad days all the time. lol I don't know what the answer is here, I can see both sides of the issue. You love cats and are doing good things by getting them fixed and reducing overpopulation. Your neighbor doesn't like them damaging her property. Maybe instead of starting your own shelter, you could team up with one of the local no kill shelters near you? Trap the cats yourself with live traps and bring them in? Maybe that would be the best solution. You're not a bad person for doing what you do, don't let these ppl bring you down. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 9:43:02 PM | | well, you can't even give her credit for even listening to the person who told her that spraying the trap and tuna with sudsy ammonia would do the job of keeping any and all animals away from it, she was and still is just determined do whatever she wants, she's just completely without knowledge about the feral cat situation, a misguided do gooder, and yes, i have two cats, both abandoned , and they are spayed, neutered, and kept inside because as ferals, they hunt no matter if they are hungry or not, ten times worse than a cat that's had a home all it's life | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 8:24:53 AM | Anyone that has had the time to let this envelope into their life is very very idol. You have resigned yourself to playing silly games that cause endless problems.
Quit being a stray cat kennel for one, next, leave your neighbor alone. Call animal control and have these excess cats picked up and dealt with at a facility. If you want a cat, keep it indoors but keep it to a happy medium.
You have lost your realities of life for purpose Ma'am. In my life i work daily and have a career, before this went to college for years and own my own house and yes i see many cats run by across my lawn. But i don't stop and feed them either and they move on. If i were to stop and toy with something like this, i would have to put my real life on hold.
People being foolish as you are ...are the result of neighbors shooting each other and domestic neighborhood violence. Stay off of your neighbors property. Find out where you dropped your life if any that you once had and get back on the top of things.
Why not get a job at the animal control helping cats being this is your lifes mission?? This way you won't have time to bother your neighbors. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 8:39:21 PM | As far as the medicinal weed goes, they have even installed vending machines in a few locations in Byrd's home state of California.
BTW, have you gotten to use one of those machines Byrd? If so, are you not afraid of getting mugged immediately after making a withdrawal?
Sorry for getting off topic, but since we were on the subject, I thought I would ask. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 9:03:26 AM |
also, the problem is solved anyhow...as she isn't going to get another cage & I've taken to going over & speaking to her a lot....giving her some badly needed company & making sure she doesn't need anything & that wonder of wonders..I haven't even needed to scoop, as there hasn't been any poop her yard....I'll be helping her plant her rose bushes this weekend....
DUDE!!! Obviously she gets it or she wouldn't be trying to make amends with her neighbor. Geez.
Yep.. but it took pages of us "jumping on her" before she got to that point.
Hooray that she finally did, (or says she did). | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 11:21:58 AM | | Well this thread served two purposes one to totally thrash a cat lover and two to show the rest of POF Who the verbally abusive people are and at least I can admit to that the rest of you are in the nile...There now teach me how to spell that.. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 4:49:20 PM | Byrd, while I see your point, I really don't think that much of the bashing going on in this thread was about her being a cat lover. I think it has more to do with the idea that she has more respect for stray cats than she does for her neighbors and their property.
Even though I do not like cats, I respect her for taking time to help them, or any other animal. But only as long as she is not imposing on the rights of others by doing so. Putting a stray/wild animal's needs over the needs of a fellow human being is a bit inconsiderate. This is what people tried to point out to her. It had nothing to do with the fact that she likes cats.
And while some posters (probably even myself) could have been more tactful about our approach, I think most of us here can agree that of all of the authors of multiple posts within this thread, she was probably the most verbally abusive. You can't call posters "simpletons" and make remarks such as these...
as to you RSwindol...I'm disappointed...I've seen you're post before & I thought you had more class....I expected better from a fellow gemini I guess....
& wowsad...I forgive you....I see that you drink a lot & take painkillers...& you call me a bad mother, cause you can't tell your own mom you think she was a bad mother...as you write in your profile..
...and expect to not get thrown to the wolves.
Her actions and ideas both were irrational and unsubstantiated (I mean, what does being a Gemini have anything to do with anything?). She grasped at straws in an attempt to break down and degrade anyone who didn't agree with what she was doing. So trust me when I say that she was not being thrashed for being a cat lover.
I hope that this change of heart that she says that she has had is not only real, but will work out for her. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 5:02:33 PM | yeah...hate seeing a thread like this die.
Friends' cat got caught in a leghold trap the neighbour had set. Lucky my friend actully saw the cat thrashing around and went and rescued it. Then gave the neighbour hell about setting such traps...which are kind of illegal around here.
Cat is fine...and doesn't go over to the neighbours any longer. So...maybe instead of a live trap...use a leghold one and then let the animal go. They'll learn! This cat did! So, it is a proven method that works!
Ok...maybe NOT such a hot idea.
Glad the OP decided to actually go and talk to the neighbour. Things seem to work out so much better that way.
Congrats to the OP!
by the way...someone "gave" knobette a kitten...to go with the cat that is here now. So...two of them. the kitten has decided to learn to climb up my leg...which is now scratched to heck. Rotten baby beast. Just as bad as that other useless cat around here. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 5:54:59 PM | Weird Al said it best:
Did you ever think, when you eat Chinese
It ain’t pork or chicken but a fat siamese?
Yet the food tastes great, so you don’t complain.
But that’s not chicken in your chicken chow mein.
Seems to me I ordered sweet-and-sour pork
But Garfield’s on my fork.
He’s purrin’ here on my fork.
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There’s a cat in the kettle at the Peking Moon
The place that I eat every day at noon.
They can feed you cat and you’ll never know
Once they wrap it up in dough, boys:
They fry it real crisp in dough.
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Chou Lin asked if I wanted more
As he was dialin’ up his buddy at the old pet store.
I said "Not today. I lost my appetite.
"There’s two cats in my belly and they want to fight."
I was suckin’ on a Rolaid and a Tums or two
When I swear I heard it mew, boys:
And that is when I knew...
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There’s a cat in the kettle at the Peking Moon
I think I gotta stop eatin’ there at noon.
They say that it’s beef or fish or pork
But it’s purrin’ there on my fork.
There’s a hair-ball on my fork. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 6:46:57 PM |
springazure44
What's the difference between feeding wild feral cats vs feeding the squirrels? I live 'in town' and my ground squirrel feeders also attract coons and deer.
Say how about looking after a few million squirrels we don't want here in england cos they are beating the cra p out of our native red squirrel and damaging trees etc.
To the OP, would you like latch key dogs pooing in your garden, same thing really. If you can't keep them indoors then let the animal welfare people take them away before they get run over or worse | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 10:07:07 AM | well, if everyone is done attacking me...or if not...regardless, I'm done with this thread...I know it wasn't a noble thing to steal the cage that night, but it did solve the immediate problem, & I have since solved it in the long term...
& who ever said a smart criminal wouldn't have posted what they were going to do...you're right....but that's not something I aspire to be anyhow....
someone said I care more about an animals life than my neighbor...yes, yes I do care more about an animals life than someones silly complaint that they can't grow flowers...(when there are a ton of them growing in her yard)...yes, yes I do care more about a life than a flower...it just amazes me that so many of you don't...
like IamKaren said...
Call animal control and have these excess cats picked up and dealt with at a facility.
see, this is the ignorance I'm dealing with on here...umm...hello...I'm trying to NOT kill them....
this person actually accuses me of having no life...simply because I don't worship money the way she does...this has just gotten too stupid to even bother reading..
I did post some "haggy" things....it's just I know what kind of person I am...where my heart is....how hard I try to make the right decisions...I know how much I care...probably about a lot of things, animals, ppl...whatever...that others obviously wouldn't give a shit about...& it's just hard getting so attacked in so many areas of my life that have nothing to do with this...this has just gotten way out of hand & I'm so done with it....my problem is solved, so thanx to all of you that gave support...& to everyone...it's been interesting...peace to all of you... | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 1:15:36 PM | I agree I too love animals more than people I have alittle basement in the back of my mind where stay cats dine on yuppies..Their happy little kitties.I see what I see you see what you see that's why it's called a difference of opinion..I'm glad everything worked out Pandora Peace to you too As for the others Peace to you also  | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 1:23:20 PM |
so...does anyone have any better ideas?
Yeah. How about keeping your cats on your own property, how's that for an idea?
And yeah, I read that you can't keep them inside because of your son. I understand that, which ultmately means you are ill-equipped to care for said animals in a proper way, and your neighbor has every right to not want your cats in their yard.
Would you like it if your neighbor suddendly started taking their trash out and leaving it on your property? No, because it's theirs... and they should put in in the trash bin on their own property right?
As should you. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2008 12:23:23 AM | i know, i know, tie one end of a bungee rope to the kitties leg, the other to a bucket filled with concrete.
line them up by your front door, hey presto 
i think what pandora is trying to tell you is, THE PROBLEM IS SOLVED!
and kittys are not trash, they are precious  
and stubblesux....i dont know where you found that, but that is just wrong...:o( | |
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Posted: 6/29/2008 3:19:43 AM | | If you want to make it so the cats won't go near it put hot sauce on it. It dries pretty quick and the animals won't touch it. When its dry you really can't even see it but the cats can smell it. Good luck | |
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Posted: 7/1/2008 5:42:38 AM |
Putting a stray/wild animal's needs over the needs of a fellow human being is a bit inconsiderate.
What needs? The neighbor's need to trap cats? She would probably do the same to kids if she thought she could get away with it. The cats haven't hurt her garden, she just doesn't like cats and wants to get rid of them
I have more respect for someone who's trying to make a difference by taking care of unwanted strays and getting them fixed than an old fool who only cares about herself and her things | |
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