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 My I

Joined: 1/23/2007
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Posted: 6/22/2008 10:28:14 PM

Although this has been going on for a while now, I have just gotten to where it really BUGS me. I am talking about the modern role of the man in TV commercials. I guess we have to make up for all those years when the woman was subservient or quiet or just not as smart. So now in every commercial she is the smart one? NO, it's WORSE. The husband/boyfriend/Dad has turned into an idiot! He can't bring home the right food. He can't even pick out the right laxative. Apparently he has morphed into a 10 year old. If executive advertisers think these commercials paint the woman in a good light, consider this: How smart can we women be for picking to be with a man as stupid as that?


On the other hand, you'll notice how movies portray nearly every female as cheating, adulterating mates. I get tired of watching wives turn gay (Two and a half men, Friends, Gray's anatomy, to name a few) and /or adulterers ("Desperate Housewives" must be the most demeaning weekly portrayal of women).

Things are so predictable... I watch very little TV.
 whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006
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Posted: 6/23/2008 5:58:14 PM
Most TV shows are terrible. Pop culture in general just seems to be racist, sexist, and generally discriminatory in how it portrays people. Maybe there are people who really are that bad? I meet so few who are like that, but I guess it could be a case of where I don't go to the places where I would meet those sorts of people. I think those who agree with what the marketers tell them are probably undereducated and just not very independent thinkers. On the other hand, it could just be showing what being raised in certain environments leads to. Think of the stereotypes of the spoiled brat, the hip-hopper, the free-loving hippy, the yuppie, etc. Which ones do you automatically assume are kind people? Which do you assume are just fun? Then look at how they became that way. We could criticize the next generation, but the thing is that the next generation was completely created and influenced by the generation before it.

Sorry, I don't have any answers. I tend to just avoid pop culture as much as I can.
 Smuggler1

Joined: 2/2/2008
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Posted: 6/25/2008 3:00:47 PM
ROFL...

Kind of a pain when they clean out the crap from the threads, then all the responses read as if they are dis-jointed and nonsense...

Anyway... I found this, thought maybe you (the general public) would like to take a look.. maybe it will help.


Lurid and sensationalized events such as the public response to Lorena Bobbitt after she cut off her abusive husband's penis, prurient fascination provoked by Anita Hill's allegations about Clarence Thomas, and the exploitation of the mass murder of fourteen women in Montreal have been processed through popular culture since the 1990s to produce pervasive misandry - contempt for men, the counterpart of misogyny. Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young believe that this reveals a shift in the United States and Canada to a worldview based on ideological feminism, which presents all issues from the point of view of women and, in the process, explicitly or implicitly attacks men as a class. They argue that ideological feminism is silently reshaping law, pubic policy, education, and journalism. Legalizing Misandry offers lively and compelling evidence to demonstrate the pervasiveness of this new thinking - from the courts, classrooms, government committees, and corporate bureaucracies to laws and policies affecting employment, marriage, divorce, custody, sexual harassment, violence, and human rights.


Or, in some reviews...


"In our culture, its fine to say that men are brutes. This book is a welcome antidote." Globe and Mail "It's about time! Spreading Misandry is a major achievement in raising awareness of how men are insidiously and indifferently attacked in popular culture." Everyman: A Men's Journal "Genuinely intelligent and insightful. Spreading Misandry is provocative and will help point the way toward social harmony." Donna Laframboise, columnist for The National Post and author of The Princess at the Window: A New Gender Morality "What makes Spreading Misandry a useful book is that it puts a small spoke in the works of the large and noisy machinery of moral indignation that feminism has succeeded in constructing in academe and the media over the last 20 years." The Sunday Independent
 angelheart3

Joined: 2/3/2007
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Posted: 6/25/2008 4:07:09 PM
Wow- thread's been bleached!

Regarding 1st quote in Smuggler1's post: can't argue with paradigm shift which has gone from one extreme to the other. The results speak for themselves. The irony is that it isn't as much as gender issue as it appears prima facie - more about the love of power and money than anything else. However, by making it appear to be a gender issue, lot of reshaping of law and policy behind that stage that empowers the already powerful, and does what to the average hard-working person? Lots of that re-shaping has nothing whatsoever to do with limiting one gender or the other yet everything to do with restricting the very liberties (at least in the US) that we have taken for granted would always be there for two centuries plus years.

Look at who really benefits from all this "new thinking"? Only a few at the expense of many - and those that benefit are of both genders. The expense is also extracted from both genders.

There have as long as people have been on the planet (far as I know - not an expert historian so there is my "disclaimer"), men who have abused women, women who have abused men, parents who have abused children, children who have abused parents, etc., etc.

Basically - distracted by symptoms yet not getting to the root cause.
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