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 Enigma252

Joined: 3/1/2008
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Posted: 6/20/2008 6:51:24 AM
CARNEADES--WHAT??

This issue is not being pushed by the national press! Why is this so?
 jack-d-ripper

Joined: 2/25/2008
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Posted: 6/20/2008 7:32:04 AM


1/4 of that refinery that should be producing gasoline is shut down and not producing ANYTHING.
I also live in a town that has a refinery that's CLOSED.


The OIl Companies must not be making enough money to invest in the USA>>>>>>
Many Gas stations are starting to show Porn's at their gas pumps...
You can watch someone else getting screwed....





Myth 1: Oil refineries are not being built in the U.S. because environmental regulations, particularly the Clean Air Act, are so bureaucratic and burdensome that refiners cannot get permits.

Fact: Environmental regulations are not preventing new refineries from being built in the U.S. From 1975 to 2000, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) received only one permit request for a new refinery. And in March, EPA approved Arizona Clean Fuels’ application for an air permit for a proposed refinery in Arizona. In addition, oil companies are regularly applying for – and receiving – permits to modify and expand their existing refineries.[1]



Myth 2: The U.S. oil refinery market is competitive.

Fact: Actually, industry consolidation is limiting competition in oil refining sector. The largest five oil refiners in the United States (ExxonMobil, ConocoPhillips, BP, Valero and Royal Dutch Shell) now control over half (56.3%) of domestic oil refinery capacity; the top ten refiners control 83%. Only ten years ago, these top five oil companies only controlled about one-third (34.5%) of domestic refinery capacity; the top ten controlled 55.6%. This dramatic increase in the control of just the top five companies makes it easier for oil companies to manipulate gasoline supplies by intentionally withholding supplies in order to drive up prices. Indeed, the U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC) concluded in March 2001 that oil companies had intentionally withheld supplies of gasoline from the market as a tactic to drive up prices—all as a “profit-maximizing strategy.” A May 2004 U.S. Governmental Accountability Office (GAO) report also found that mergers in the oil industry directly led to higher prices—and this report did not even include the large mergers after the year 2000, such as ChevronTexaco and ConocoPhillips. Yet, just one week after Hurricane Katrina, the FTC approved yet another merger of refinery giants—Valero Energy and Premcor—giving Valero 13% of the national market share. These actions, while costing consumers billions of dollars in overcharges, have not been challenged by the U.S. government.



Myth 3: The United States has maxed out its oil refining capability.

Fact: Oil companies have exploited their strong market position to intentionally restrict refining capacity by driving smaller, independent refiners out of business. A congressional investigation uncovered internal memos written by the major oil companies operating in the U.S. discussing their successful strategies to maximize profits by forcing independent refineries out of business, resulting in tighter refinery capacity. From 1995-2002, 97% of the more than 920,000 barrels of oil per day of capacity that have been shut down were owned and operated by smaller, independent refiners. Were this capacity to be in operation today, refiners could use it to better meet today’s reformulated gasoline blend needs.



Profit margins for oil refiners have been at record highs. In 1999, for every gallon of gasoline refined from crude oil, U.S. oil refiners made a profit of 22.8 cents. By 2004, the profits jumped 80% to 40.8 cents per gallon of gasoline refined. Between 2001 and mid-2005, the combined profits for the biggest five refiners was $228 billion.



If you want more refineries the Government will have to build them.......

I am beginning to like the idea of Nationalization of the Oil Companies and Refineries...

All third world counties do this... Give me gas I can Afford....
 Enigma252

Joined: 3/1/2008
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Posted: 6/20/2008 8:06:39 AM
A commentary this morning, from an investment professional (portfolio manager for millions):

"The entire energy situation is a mess…The Saudis claim oil should be $75- $80.00 per barrel…Yet Goldman Sachs is calling for a spike to $200…Speculators have really created a problem in the market place and now its effecting virtually everything…The inflation talk is now seeping into fixed income, which has held up well until the last few weeks…Its helped a company like Enterra though(which just hit 5.00 today)…The refinery issue has been a problem forever, but the enviormentalists won’t let us build new ones… Just as we were in March, the market is way oversold now…I believe the energy bubble(like the Nasdaq in 2001 and Real Estate) is going to burst…I believe this will reduce the inflationary fears and be one catalyst for us to move higher…The financials are exceptionally weak right now but this looks more like the capitulation we’ve been waiting for…The last time we saw these multiples on the banks they took off…I don’t see this happening tomorrow, but the value in the group is becoming to compelling to avoid…All and all though at the moment theres not a lot to get excited about…That usually triggers a bottom."

My comment, I'd like to see a Front Line, or some other news agency (Not Fox News) do a report on the litigation of this issue.
 printer2

Joined: 6/19/2007
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Posted: 6/20/2008 12:01:49 PM


To the posters who commented about refineries NOT being the issue….1/4 of that refinery that should be producing gasoline is shut down and not producing ANYTHING.

Those facts,coupled w/ the skilled trades worker shortage in the petroleum industry bode for darker times ahead.

Not quite what I said. I said the oil companies are limiting refining capacity and then blaming high prices on lack of capacity. This is an engineered shortage. There is no reason those refineries in your area should be closed. It is not like the oil companies are short of money and can not afford to do maintenance on the plants.

The shortage of skilled workers did not appear overnight. They could have pull people from other industries by offering top salaries. Any training that is needed is out there, that is my job.

The dark times are for the consumer not the oil companies. The tighter the supply the more they make. The only reason is to keep profits up. What I did say was that if we did have the refining capacity online another bottleneck will magically pop up keeping prices high.
 jack-d-ripper

Joined: 2/25/2008
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Posted: 6/20/2008 12:24:55 PM



The dark times are for the consumer not the oil companies.


It is time to enforce Anti-Trust laws...
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