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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/18/2008 2:56:37 AM | "A lot has to do with it's population that is pretty much a third of muslims and other third world people. Less than a third is British Isles decendants. The other third are from many European countries. Hey, but it still has the English crown"
WTF? where are you getting your demographics? way out of line with reality | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/18/2008 3:08:28 AM |
wikipedia has been corrupted. really cant be used as a source in opinion matters, as its founders are liberals, but not liberal enough to the extent that many controversial subjects or famous figures "cannot be added to."
This isn't opinion, it's factual, feel free to show me another source showing muslims make up a third of the country. This will be amusing. | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/18/2008 6:41:56 AM |
A lot has to do with it's population that is pretty much a third of muslims and other third world people. Less than a third is British Isles decendants. The other third are from many European countries. Hey, but it still has the English crown.
Truthiness raises it's head, even here.....
Results from the 2001 Canadian Census
Trends in membership of various religions (listed in alphabetic order): Religion 2001 census data Atheists, Agnostics , Humanists, no religion, etc. 16.2% Buddhism 1.0% Catholic + Protestants 72% Catholic 43.2% Protestant 29.2% Eastern Orthodox 1.6% Other Christian 2.6% Hinduism 1.0% Islam 2.0% Judaism 1.1% Sikhism 0.9%
http://www.religioustolerance.org/can_rel0.htm
Source: Government of Canada
Wow...... where'd all those Third World people go ?
My point is that no one should have the ability to make a blanket statement about ALL members of ANY group. Anyone that does, is promoting a flawed agenda.
Homosexuals have legal rights to be left alone, and to live their lives as any other Canadian citizen does. No one has any rights to argue otherwise, as we are a nation of laws.
The same applies to Muslims, as they have the same legal right to be free of people with agendas trying to turn them into demons, too.
This doesn't mean that one cannot make statements about certain elements of those societies, if and when they break the law, or fail to fulfill the duties we ALL have as citizens of this country.
That's the thing that gets me here, how some can right off entire groups of people with a wave of their hand - like liberals, probably one of the most common ones. ALL liberals are....blah blah blah is just as bad as ALL conservatives are blah, blah, blah....
That's one of the ways I draw the line, when those all encompassing statements are made judging an entire group of people in a negative light - typically with intent to somehow prejudice other people's opinion against them.
This mentality is not "freedom of speech" because it is indeed basically flawed. ALL of any group of humans cannot be the same, ever. I've lived long enough to know that this type of simplistic, judgmental attitude is not a reality.
As such, it's invalidated simply by logic.
That's what's at the core of this case, the foundation of it.
One can speak out, and is freely allowed to speak out, on ELEMENTS of a group that are doing something wrong. If they break the law, or fail to act properly as citizens, they are not protected from being singled out.
To start to take out a brush and paint ALL of them in one way, is allowing intolerance to germinate. That's the start of a path on a very slippery slope. If ALL are like that, then no one is free of whatever "guilt" you are trying to lay upon them.
And that's unfair, and wrong.
In regards to homosexuality, we've passed some very clear laws allowing those people to be treated exactly as all other citizens are, and we are a land of laws here. No one should be allowed to single them out for attention, simply simply on the issue of their homosexuality.
That's a RIGHT , too.
We are not a theocracy, we are a democracy.
In regards to this poor man now having to apologize to the gay community, that does not force him in any way to "renounce his faith" . That he maintains, without any doubt. He doesn't have to issue a "pro-gay" statement, in any way.
All he has to do is to put down that first rock, and apologize for trying to throw it.  | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/18/2008 11:51:50 AM | | This really is just an issue that has arrisen recently in Canada. Most Canadians are unaware that these sort of incidents are even occuring. IMO it's just a case of bureacracy run amok. None of these cases are ever brought to a court as they most likely would be stuck down. In the future as Canadians we will have to look at and examine what limits and constraints we place on these human rights tribunals. Since their really are no Human rights violations in Canada anyways. If there actually were they would be better served in front of a court. | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/18/2008 1:43:56 PM | Well, yeah. We really, really need to focus on the role of the tribunals cuz otherwise what would we be left with? I know!!! I know!!!! We'd be left with introspection that has to do with why some people appear to be inordinately motivated to promulgate hatred. God forbid we look at that. I had NO idea that Christ had a secret society at the foot of the cross and was reading off a list of exceptions....who on earth taught you this crap? Any chance they were just wrong? Woo hooo!!!! God is hate!!! It is so odd to me........this way of thinking... | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/18/2008 2:05:13 PM | Basically in Canada Their is protection of" freedom of speech", however their is a provision that resticts hate speech. the definition of this will vary from case to case. That being said we have government tribunals called Human rights tribunals. What they traditionally did was to protect someone without resources from being discriminated against. Ie A gay person being fired for being gay. The purpose was to ensure that basic human rights were protected irregardless if the victim had the resources to hire a lawyer and got to court.
Recently radical elements of society, namely radical muslim clerics and Anti religion activists have used these tribunals to wage a campaign against those they disagree with. Case in point Marc Steyn's book, Ezra levants republishing of the danish cartoons and A former pastor who wrote a letter to the editor regarding homosexuality.
Most canadians view these example as a perversion of the bureaucracy. If any of these had been real Hate speech offenses they would have been prosecuted in court by the government of the day. In time the scope of these organizations will surely be limited to prevent their abuse. | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/18/2008 7:14:22 PM |
What they traditionally did was to protect someone without resources from being discriminated against. Ie A gay person being fired for being gay. The purpose was to ensure that basic human rights were protected irregardless if the victim had the resources to hire a lawyer and got to court.
So a human rights tribunal can assist one if discriminated against for losing a job, but it cannot protect an entire group from having it's civil rights removed ?
Interesting.
It cannot protect an entire group from being maliciously labeled and prejudiced by slander ?
It cannot protect a group from having all it's members accused of things that a sub-set of the group is involved in ?
The purpose of the tribunal is to ensure the protection of civil rights of Canadians. | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/18/2008 7:24:07 PM | 2001 population census: British Isles origin 26%, French origin 24%, European 15%, Amerindian 2%, other, mostly Asian, African, Arab, 26%. Religion: Roman Catholic 42.6%, Protestant 23.3% (including United Church 9.5%, Anglican 6.8%, Baptist 2.4%, Lutheran 2%), other Christian 4.4%, Muslim 1.9%, other and unspecified 11.8%, none 16%.
Estimated 2008 population census: British Isles origin 24%, French origin 24%, European 16%, Amerindian 2%, other, mostly Asian, African, Arab, 28%. There's your 1/3 and the reason Muslims have great influence. Probably all located in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal. The rest of the provinces may have the 24% English as in Alberta.
In Canada, Hugh Owens was prosecuted for placing a small ad in his local newspaper. In it, he responded to all that he had been forced to observe during homosexual pride week. His ad simply listed four Bible references. Somebody took the time necessary to look it up, be offended and file a complaint. As a result, Owen was charged with a "hate crime" and fined $4,500. The newspaper was also fined. Dianne Haskett, the mayor of London, Ontario, Canada, was fined $10,000 for refusing to proclaim a "Gay Pride Weekend." After she lost her case in Canada's courts, she resigned as mayor rather than be forced to proclaim the event – just three weeks before Election Day.
A local school in Canada started distributing copies of the Quran in 1998. It also announced that it would provide a room in which Muslim students could pray during school hours. Pastor Mark Harding objected. To substantiate his assertion that Canadians should be wary of local Muslims, he produced a pamphlet listing atrocities committed by Muslims in foreign lands. The pamphlet said: "The Muslims who commit these crimes are no different than some of the Muslim believers living here in Toronto. Their beliefs are based on the Quran. They sound peaceful, but underneath their false sheep's clothing are raging wolves seeking whom they may devour. And Toronto is definitely on their hit list." Pastor Harding was convicted of "hate crimes" and sentenced to two years probation and 340 hours of community service. He was placed under the supervision of Mohammad Ashraf, general secretary of the Islamic Society of North America in Mississauga, Ontario. His sentence was upheld by Canada's Supreme Court in 2002. When Harding later attempted to book meeting space in a church in nearby Hamilton, the local newspaper launched a campaign against him.
The Hamilton Spectator's story opened this way: "A convicted hate criminal trying to organize an anti-Islam conference in Hamilton has become the subject of a new hate-crime investigation." In Canada, "phobias" seem to have overruled freedom of speech. Dean Steacy, a top investigator for Canada's Human Rights Commission, was once asked by defense lawyer Barbara Kulazka in court: "What value do you give freedom of speech when you investigate one of these complaints?" Steacy's reply? "Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don't give it any value." | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/18/2008 10:17:10 PM |
Estimated 2008 population census: British Isles origin 24%, French origin 24%, European 16%, Amerindian 2%, other, mostly Asian, African, Arab, 28%. There's your 1/3 and the reason Muslims have great influence. Probably all located in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal. The rest of the provinces may have the 24% English as in Alberta.
Ummmm our largest groups of Asians are Chinese and from the Philipines, so somehow 28->33% yet, the majority of that 28% isn't even Muslim, try again. | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/19/2008 6:08:29 AM |
In Canada, "phobias" seem to have overruled freedom of speech.
Especially when people with phobias try to place them into the public mind too.
Labeling ALL Muslims for the crimes of some ? Morally wrong to do....
Taking out an ad in a paper protesting gay pride week ?
Well, if you don't want to participate ? Don't.
It's strange how the "rights" of those types of people overshadow the real rights of the people they attack with their efforts. Some have argued that these people are simply getting too upset over being "insulted? , while forgetting the motives that drives the people in these cases are their OWN insults.
They feel insulted about gays or Muslims, and so they strike out against entire groups of legal citizens, and their rights under Canadian law to be free of such diatribes in the public areas we all share together. | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/19/2008 6:58:23 AM | Laws have nothing to do with these cases as they we're never charged with breaking any. All these cases went to the human rights tribunals and were never charged legally. If they we're it is doubtful any of them would lead to conviction.
All these human rights tribunals do is enforce left wing politically correct mantra. The biggest problem with these tribunals is that it is totally one sided. For example If you are gay you can spread hate speech against straights all you want, if you are native you can incite hatred against whites . Montreal_Guy is prints articles here on POF which he claims will incite hatred against religious people and by his own definition are hate speech. Yet he fears no reprisal from the Human rights Tribunal. Why can one group incite hated against non politically correct group, while someone like Ezra levant is unable to publish Danish Cartoons without the HRT on his back?
The clear bias and double standard that exists in these tribunals does not serve to remove so called "hate speech" from the canada but only encourages it for some groups while removes even the simplest discussion of any issue from others.
The only questions is how long will it take to shut these Tribunals down or to limit their scope. If we can do this we should be able to get some fair balance between ones right to expression and "hate speech". | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/19/2008 7:14:03 AM |
Montreal_Guy is prints articles here on POF which he claims will incite hatred against religious people and by his own definition are hate speech. Yet he fears no reprisal from the Human rights Tribunal.
Again, attack the message - and not the messenger.
It's a valid use of satire to raise awareness, and I challenge any religious person to read that letter and NOT be offended by it. If you are, you can perhaps better understand the feelings of those it was originally directed at.
If they we're it is doubtful any of them would lead to conviction.
I'm not so sure about that.
The biggest problem with these tribunals is that it is totally one sided.
Well, when one defends rights - this isn't a bad thing. There is no real grey area there. Read those Charter passages again, and especially the parts of accepted defenses against being charged with hate crimes.
And then look at that letter again....
The only questions is how long will it take to shut these Tribunals down or to limit their scope. If we can do this we should be able to get some fair balance between ones right to expression and "hate speech".
Here's an idea !
Appeal this decision in a court, with legal action - and let's see where THAT leads, shall we ?
They probably won't , because that would put a full blown cap on what they could get away with, and hence it's probably the last thing on their list to do. That would end their road, but now.......they can play the martyr.  | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/19/2008 7:37:58 AM | My pure intent is to attack the message. I have no interest in attacking somebody I know nothing about.
However if you claim that Marc Steyn, Ezra Levant and Boisson are diseminating Hate speech and then you say. " Here is an example of Hate speech against people who believe in a supreme being... Blah blah Blah" the that Steyn,levant and boisson are guilty of breaking the law and you aren't. I'm going to call you on that.
In further post you state that your not worried about being hauled in front of the Humans rights tribunal because your ontheir side, just using satire. That just shows how onesided the whole bureacracy has become. If it is to have rules they should be enforces evenly to gay, straight, religious, atheists, black and white.
In regards of these people going to court, well thats part of the Human rights tribunals shell game. They only find guiltythe people who have no resources to defend themselves in court. Their process they drag these people through is the punishment anyways. How can someone with little resources hire a lawyer and expect to pay $50,000 to fight a $5,000 fine? If these people we're guilty of these so called crimes the government would prosecute them with crown prosecutors in a court of law.
The HRT cuases enough problems for newspapers, television stations and other media so that they voluntarily censor themselves and in turn the citizens themselves. | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/19/2008 9:22:03 AM | So lemme get this straight......telling someone they are spewing hate speech is hate speech.......is that it? So then the person holding you accountable needs to be called out? Really? Wow......how big is that mulberry bush a person's gotta spin themselves around with that reasoning? Telling someone 'we will no longer tolerate hate speech, we don't care what primitive belief system you base it on' is hate speech? Really? Here's an idea, when you participate in hate speech, expect to be held accountable by those people that think that's just loopy cuz, you know, it's based on HATRED. Wooo hoooo! See how simple that was? The better questions: What would it take for hate groups to admit they are wrong? And until they do, how much death and mayhem is society supposed to tolerate for your right to hate? New flash: Jesus isn't hate. Try starting there... | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/20/2008 9:36:54 AM |
In regards of these people going to court, well thats part of the Human rights tribunals shell game. They only find guiltythe people who have no resources to defend themselves in court. Their process they drag these people through is the punishment anyways. How can someone with little resources hire a lawyer and expect to pay $50,000 to fight a $5,000 fine? If these people we're guilty of these so called crimes the government would prosecute them with crown prosecutors in a court of law.
Ahhh, but here's the rub.
They could certainly start a group to raise money from all those citizens that support that concept of "free speech" that we seemingly do not have here in Canada, right ? That sounds like a pretty vital issue, with all those jackbooted political PC groups like those HRCs kicking down those doors in our mind, and holding our thoughts hostage.
I'd say you could raise a lot of money, with all that horror going on, in this rather liberal country of ours.
50,000 dollars ? Peanuts.
So take this outrage, this horror, and fight against it.
Go into the court system with it, and fight the good fight for "freedom of expression" . Protect our country from the threat it faces, a growing one it seems.
Why it won't be done ?
Because ONE ruling from someone like (eventually) the Supreme Court of Canada on it slams that door hard - and locks it.
That's the only thing someone like Boissant is scared more of, being confined to his pulpit when expressing his views.
Here's a ruling from the Saskatchewan HRC - OWENS V. SASKATCHEWAN (HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION)
[28] The objects of this Act are set forth in s. 3. The first and most general of them is concerned with principle-and is dedicated to gaining greater public recognition, first of that fundamental idea underlying our society which holds that each member of the community is inherently possessed, in equal measure, of human worth and dignity, and, second, of the derivative concept that each is therefore entitled to be treated, and in turn required to treat every other, as equally worthy of respect and concern (s. 3(a))). The second purpose, more specific than the first, is to further public policy in Saskatchewan which, rooted in these concepts, is aimed at discouraging and eliminating discrimination (s. 3(b)). ... [48] Section 14(1) had added to it in 1979, immediately after the provision prohibiting the publication or display of "any notice, sign, symbol, emblem or other representation" which tends to interfere with the enjoyment by persons of the rights accorded to them by the law, the following words:
"... or which exposes or tends to expose to hatred, ridicules, belittles or otherwise affronts the dignity of any person, any class of persons of a group of persons ... [because of his/her or their race, colour, sex and so on]."
[49] The addition is quite clearly directed at discouraging, if not eliminating, activity which reinforces prejudice and in turn fosters discrimination. Hence the section acquired a second purpose: to discourage some of the underlying causes of "the certain discriminatory practices" covered by Part II. ... [59] Before turning to the express language of the section, we might say that we have concluded in light of the foregoing that the section requires, by implication, that the message have a specific effect or effects in order to be caught by the section. The message must not only ridicule, belittle or otherwise affront the dignity of the person or the class, it must be such as to cause or be likely to cause others to engage in one or more of the discriminatory practices prohibited by ss. 9 through 13 and 15 through 19.
[30] However, s. 14 goes beyond prohibiting material exposing to hatred. It also prohibits material which ridicules, belittles or otherwise affronts the dignity of any group because of race or religion. The appellant argued that these additional grounds for prohibition of publication broadened the section to the extent that the reasoning in Taylor should not apply, and that, as a result, s. 14 was not a reasonable limit on the right to freedom of expression. ... [33] Accordingly, in our view, s. 14 of the Code is a reasonable limit on the right to freedom of expression as allowed under s. 1 of the Charter. Our reasons for this conclusion are rather perfunctory because the result of this appeal would be the same even if we had concluded that the words "ridicules, belittles or otherwise affronts the dignity of" in s. 14(1)(a) had taken the section beyond the reasoning in Taylor which justified the limit as being reasonable.
[24] In my view, s. 14(1) of the Code is a reasonable restriction on the appellant's right to freedom of expression and religion as contemplated by s. 2(a) of the Charter. See Bell, supra. In Ross v. New Brunswick School District No. 15, [1996] 1 S.C.R. 825, La Forest J. held that the analysis under s. 1 of the Charter is the same whether the legislation infringes the respondent's freedom of expression or freedom of religion.
[25] For all the above reasons the appeal is dismissed.
14(1) No person shall publish or display, or cause or permit to be published or displayed, on any lands or premises or in a newspaper, through a television or radio broadcasting station or any other broadcasting device, or in any printed matter or publication or by means of any other medium that he owns, controls, distributes or sells, any representation, including without restricting the generality of the foregoing, any notice, sign, symbol, emblem, article, statement or other representation:
(a) tending or likely to tend to deprive, abridge or otherwise restrict the enjoyment by any person or class of persons of any right to which he is or they are entitled under law; or
(b) which exposes, or tends to expose, to hatred, ridicules, belittles or otherwise affronts the dignity of any person, any class of persons or a group of persons; because of his or their race, creed, religion, colour, sex, sexual orientation, family status, marital status, disability, age, nationality, ancestry, place of origin or receipt of public assistance.
(2) Nothing in subsection (1) restricts the right to freedom of speech under the law upon any subject.
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/bible-ruled-hate-speech.htm
Again , I'd LOVE to see these HRC decisions appealed. This type of ruling seems to fit rather well with previous Canadian Supreme Court rulings like Keegstra.
And yes, America is indeed unique in it's mentality regarding "free speech".
Canada, England, France, Germany, the Netherlands, South Africa, Australia and India all have laws or have signed international conventions banning hate speech. Israel and France forbid the sale of Nazi items like swastikas and flags. It is a crime to deny the Holocaust in Canada, Germany and France. Earlier this month, the actress Brigitte Bardot, an animal rights activist, was fined $23,000 in France for provoking racial hatred by criticizing a Muslim ceremony involving the slaughter of sheep. By contrast, American courts would not stop the American Nazi Party from marching in Skokie, Ill., in 1977, though a march would have been deeply distressing to the many Holocaust survivors there. Six years later, a state court judge in New York dismissed a libel case brought by several Puerto Rican groups against a business executive who had called food stamps “basically a Puerto Rican program.” The First Amendment, Justice Eve M. Preminger wrote, does not allow even false statements about racial or ethnic groups to be suppressed or punished just because they may increase “the general level of prejudice.” Some prominent legal scholars say the United States should reconsider its position on hate speech.
The First Amendment is not, of course, absolute. The Supreme Court has said that the government may ban fighting words or threats. Punishments may be enhanced for violent crimes prompted by racial hatred. And private institutions, including universities and employers, are not subject to the First Amendment, which restricts only government activities. But merely saying hateful things about minority groups, even with the intent to cause their members distress and to generate contempt and loathing, is protected by the First Amendment. In 1969, for instance, the Supreme Court unanimously overturned the conviction of a leader of a Ku Klux Klan group under an Ohio statute that banned the advocacy of terrorism. The Klan leader, Clarence Brandenburg, had urged his followers at a rally to “send the Jews back to Israel,” to “bury” blacks, though he did not call them that, and to consider “revengeance” against politicians and judges who were unsympathetic to whites. Only Klan members and journalists were present. Because Mr. Brandenburg’s words fell short of calling for immediate violence in a setting where such violence was likely, the Supreme Court ruled that he could not be prosecuted for incitement.
“Canadians do not have a cast-iron stomach for offensive speech,” Mr. Gratl said in a telephone interview. “We don’t subscribe to a marketplace of ideas. Americans as a whole are more tough-minded and more prepared for verbal combat.” Many foreign courts have respectfully considered the American approach — and then rejected it. A 1990 decision from the Canadian Supreme Court, for instance, upheld the criminal conviction of James Keegstra for “unlawfully promoting hatred against an identifiable group by communicating anti-Semitic statements.” Mr. Keegstra, a teacher, had told his students that Jews are “money loving,” “power hungry” and “treacherous.” Writing for the majority, Chief Justice Brian****on said there was an issue “crucial to the disposition of this appeal: the relationship between Canadian and American approaches to the constitutional protection of free expression, most notably in the realm of hate propaganda.”
Chief Justice****on said “there is much to be learned from First Amendment jurisprudence.” But he concluded that “the international commitment to eradicate hate propaganda and, most importantly, the special role given equality and multiculturalism in the Canadian Constitution necessitate a departure from the view, reasonably prevalent in America at present, that the suppression of hate propaganda is incompatible with the guarantee of free expression.” America’s distinctive approach to free speech, legal scholars say, has many causes. It is partly rooted in an individualistic view of the world. Fear of allowing the government to decide what speech is acceptable plays a role. So does history. “It would be really hard to criticize Israel, Austria, Germany and South Africa, given their histories,” for laws banning hate speech, Professor Schauer said in an interview. In Canada, however, laws banning hate speech seem to stem from a desire to promote societal harmony. While the Ontario Human Rights Commission dismissed a complaint against Maclean’s, it still condemned the article. “In Canada, the right to freedom of expression is not absolute, nor should it be,” the commission’s statement said. “By portraying Muslims as all sharing the same negative characteristics, including being a threat to ‘the West,’ this explicit expression of Islamophobia further perpetuates and promotes prejudice toward Muslims and others.” http://kathmanduk2.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/ hate-speechfree-speech-american-exception- unlike-others-us-defends-freedom-to-offend-speech/
As I've kept repeating, this difference in "free speech" is indeed a cultural filter, and an important one, and one that separates us in how we view our respective societies. Keegstra, and the Supreme Court, proved that perfectly to any doubters.
That point about the difference in societies re equality and multiculturalism is another point not to be forgotten. These are different priorities that we have. America does not define itself as a multicultural country, as Canada has.
In the USA, for those reasons I've mentioned, those cultural filters and political history, this is a totally different issue - and cannot be defended in the same way.
There, it is the law of the land - and one has to accept that as part of the landscape you work in when discussing subjects THERE. | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/20/2008 9:58:25 AM | For those of you who don't know Jim Keegrstra was a teacher in southern alberta who taught his students that the holocaust was fake and that jews were subhuman.
He was charged by the government in a court of law and sentenced. In the case of boisson he was never charged in a court of law, since he never advocated genocide like keegstra.
If you can tolerate the HRT attacking Boisson their is a price to your liberty, you also have to accept stuff like this.
1. Going after ezra levant for publishing the infamous danish cartoons 2. Going after Marc Steyn for his book about the muslim population explosion 3. Going after people for off color jokes in a public setting where it can be overheard. 4. Going after "free Tibet protesters" since they were alegedly spreading hate against the chinese.
And this is just a drop in the bucket their are many more examples of people that can and have been targeted by this bureaucratic organziation gone wild.
Take a look at this brochure the alberta human rights tribunal was handing out. Some tenants of mine received this brochure in the mail as well. The brochure with relevant commentary http://ezralevant.com/2008/06/albertas-hrc-breeding-the-next.html The brochure in adobe http://www.albertahumanrights.ab.ca/HR_in_AB_view-only.pdf | |
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| Hate speech or free speech? What much of West bans is protected in U.S. Posted: 6/21/2008 11:04:22 PM | | So something like 76% of that population is non-Anglo, composed of Arabs, Asian, Africans, French and others. It has the stink of apartheid. No wonder they fear the Muslims. Anything truthful would be considered "Hate Speech" or risk provinces breaking away, starting with Quebec. Good thing those provinces are semi-independent. We might end up with different countries at our northern cold border. | |
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