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Posted: 9/1/2005 5:32:36 PM | | Thanks for mentioning it AGAIN beamer,... I made this exact statement a couple pages back about MY son. People please DO NOT let your Pediatrician's rule out or pass over the complete picture which MAY be TOURETTE'S. Never stop questioning and remember that stimulants are the Tourette's child's worst enemy. | |
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Posted: 9/14/2005 3:16:25 PM | | got it hate ,have to live with it...................... | |
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Posted: 9/14/2005 5:17:43 PM | | my son is adhd , he is 11 years old and in middle school, yes it was hard at first, i keep him busy in things that he enjoys, make sure he does his homework before his medication wears off or he cannot do good on it. i put him in computer club at school and he loves it, adhd kids are usually very smart with computers and it relaxes them. and he has chores and structure at home. he is a great kid. adhd kids are very smart and can be the best kids to have , very lovable , they just need help and guidance. he is also in the 504 plan at school which is required by law for the schools. hang in there, it will get better. take care | |
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Posted: 9/14/2005 6:53:16 PM | just a note.. sometimes children with developmental delays have attention issues as well but don't respond well to ADHD meds because it is a different kind of brain function.
ADHD is a strange and complex issue.. I have heard of kids who have developed tourette's because of ADHD meds..
Tourette's in itself is not a bad thing.. Can be dealt with.. at least some of it..
I work at a school where our student population is either learning disabled or has other learning needs. Tourettes, ADHD, Willaims Syndrome, asbergers, autism.. just a sampling. | |
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Posted: 9/14/2005 6:53:24 PM | just a note.. sometimes children with developmental delays have attention issues as well but don't respond well to ADHD meds because it is a different kind of brain function.
ADHD is a strange and complex issue.. I have heard of kids who have developed tourette's because of ADHD meds..
Tourette's in itself is not a bad thing.. Can be dealt with.. at least some of it..
I work at a school where our student population is either learning disabled or has other learning needs. Tourettes, ADHD, Willaims Syndrome, asbergers, autism.. just a sampling. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2005 9:00:53 PM | I and my son both have ADD/ADHD combined form. What works best is a combination of meds and behavior mods.
Things need to be consistent on a daily basis. This makes it easier to pay attention. It also means having to take less meds. For years I self medicated with coffee but when I got to five pots of coffee a day just before my son was diagnosed I decided it was time to get checked out.
There is lots of research that has been done on ADD/ADHD and like all things it is contradictory. Personally just consistancy in all things makes a big difference. Means discipline is needed for the child and you to keep things that way. a friend who has a teen with ADHD has the list of things he is to do each morning on the door to his bedroom so he is able ot get it all done and out the door to school. Same for when he gets home.
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Posted: 9/23/2005 5:47:20 AM | please also don't take your doctor's word as gospel
Get a second and third opinion when someone diagnoses you with ANYTHING. | |
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Posted: 9/25/2005 6:43:11 PM | | My son is ADHD you need a routine, patience and alot of love when dealling. My son still will not watch for cars when crossing the street all i can do is repeat myself again. I have also found that children put on med's to deal with ADHD can end up in their teenage years with worse problem. Children can be lable with ADHD yet their is nothing wrong with them.... teachers today will push a normal, hyper child to be labled as ADHD because they are not trained to deal with the child, teacher ratio you will find in schools. I hop this helps! | |
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Posted: 9/25/2005 6:44:39 PM | | My son is ADHD you need a routine, patience and alot of love when dealling. My son still will not watch for cars when crossing the street all i can do is repeat myself again. I have also found that children put on med's to deal with ADHD can end up in their teenage years with worse problem. Children can be lable with ADHD yet their is nothing wrong with them.... teachers today will push a normal, hyper child to be labled as ADHD because they are not trained to deal with the child, teacher ratio you will find in schools. I hope this helps! | |
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Posted: 9/25/2005 7:02:36 PM | | My son is ADHD and ODD-he is now 5 years old. The best thing to have is Patience. And it is very hard ecspecially in public. My son was on medication when he was 3 and 4 but has been taken off this year because he seemed to be better without it. So is goes to show that medication isnt the answer for all children. Dont get me wrong-he is still a handfull, but it does get better!!! | |
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Posted: 10/3/2005 10:42:03 PM | When I was in reform school this russion cadet named Sega (Ser-Gay) and this other cadet named cadet Conger would beat up the young kids in the middle school barracks and take their ritilin. Then Sega would crush it into powder and sell it on the street.
Ritilin actually has good street value.
This is totally worthless information, but it is true. Ah the wonderful days of my childhood, how fun it is too reflect on the memories I haven't repressed due to post traumatic stress disorder. | |
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Posted: 12/4/2005 1:31:34 PM |  OMG that sounds horrible!! Well, I just decided to check in on 'my forums' today lol, as I still am new to these lol. I have a few updates since I last posted on this particular thread....
After the hottest summer in history for my city, we attempted to have my son start to live with me again...and enroll in a city school here. He lasted all but two weeks omg! He managed to get himself suspended for the rest of the day on the 5th day of school, and on my way to pick him up, he earned himself another day! I was exhausted beyond exhaustion & I tried so hard :( ....
After two weeks of school in sudbury, my dad (with whom I have joint custody of my son) came to town and I informed him of what had been happening. Apparently my boy had been disruptive and/or distracting in class from day 1 omg!!! The school was not quite prepared for him & the old school on the island still had not sent any files...It was my dad's idea to just have him live back with him again since he seemed to be improving somewhat there since they got him a 'helper' in class...
I packed his bags & tried my best not to cry & show my pain...my son assured me that we would still see each other on a regular basis; but my heart still ached & inside I felt like I had failed him somehow...:(
Well, in two days' time he sees the pediatrician here in sudbury; it will be his 1st visit & hopefully it will mark the beginning of finding out exactly what is my baby's needs at this point in time. But I am really set against ritalin for many reasons...I have heard too many horror stories about it!!! So, now I am happy that we are closer to finding some answers; whatever it is I know that my boy is the greatest kid in the entire universe & I would not trade him or my experiences with him for anything in the world!!!
I also want to thank everyone for their very useful pointers after I posted my original post here on this particular thread...ur support has warmed my heart...And if any of u are of the praying sort; please remember my boy & I as his natural father left us before my boy was even born :(
I do plan on having him live with me again, hopefully I will be more prepared next time....
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Posted: 12/4/2005 3:03:04 PM | I have a 7 year old son with ADHD and ODD. He was diagnosed at the age of 5. It took a while...but things are under control here now. What works best for my son is STRUCTURE, one on one time, praise for the things he does well in, a well balanced diet, patience and to give discipline in a "gentle" way (not by yelling and ridiculing). When my son does something that is wrong...depending on what he has done...I take away something he likes to play with or give him a time out or use the 1-2-3 method on him and it does work wonders in my home. I was against meds at first for the first 2 years. I also got trampled on by teachers saying "put him on meds or I'll kick him out of the classroom" . I eventually decided to try my son on meds (took a few before we found the right one) and he is doing very well on them. He takes 27mg of Concerta...12 hour slow release tablet. He only takes it on school days. He also sees a children's councellor once a month. I have enrolled him in a different school this year. He has a fantastic bus driver, a fantastic teacher and there are 2 PSA's in the classroom as well. His report card came home last week with VG's and G's...VG+ in math. He is a very smart boy and a very loving and compassionate boy too.
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Posted: 12/5/2005 6:15:14 PM | here are a few links to add food to thought
http://www.psycheducation.org/PCP/handouts/ADHD.htm
http://www.additudemag.com/medical.asp?DEPT_NO=506&SUB_NO=6
also i typed adhd versus bipolar into my search engine. got quite a few hits.
my son has severe adhd. he's a challenge. on two meds. and goes back and forth on his
mood. one day he is perfectly happy the next?aaaaaaaaaaa not so much!
he does not have bipolar. i do. also, adhd runs on both sides of the family.
how was the determination made? well, in my son's case, i showed the classic signs of adhd.
there was such a clear picture. this cant be said for every kid, however. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2005 10:32:33 PM | Hmmmm...thank you mlady for that food for thought. Actually along with my 'parent guilt' I started thinking about my own childhood & how I had learned to calm myself down in school....
How does an adult find out if they have it and/or if they have managed it?
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Posted: 12/6/2005 10:42:45 AM | Having been diagnosed with Bipolar disorder when I was 24, I can share some innformation. For almost tens years after that I took medications, only to realize it wasnt really helping. So rather than just taking doctors advice I started doing research. One thing I found is that it is a genetic disease. The genes may lay dormant, but stress or trauma can bring it on. If not handled quickly can get very deep rooted as it did in my case.
2 years later I manged to find an awesome lady in Seattle, that for the first time in 12 years spoke some truths. The fact is... the medication does not cure you... PERIOD. What the medication is for is to get you body and mind into a zone to where you can deal with your situations. One of the big problems with Bipolar/ADD/ADHD disorder si the patient tends to react to situations rather than act. As a child this is very difficult to distingush. Now you start to wonder how I can say anything about ADD. Mmy son was diagnosed with it at 14.
I have spent a lot of time working with him based on my experiences. he seems to have the same mentall difficulties as I did. One of the things I learned that really helps is when you have to make a quick is to stop count to ten, then think about what you have to make a decision on, and then act on it. This technique has helped both my son and I.
Excersise, and having a good hobby to pur yourself into also helps. One of the other major tendencies of these disorders is to have a very overactive mind. This overactive mind does not allow the patient to get the appropriate rest both physically and mentally. Therefore when they do need to apply themselves there is no mental energy left to use to concentrate on what they are doing.
There have been a lot of studies done on the brainpower and learning to slow your thoughts down to conserve mental energy. This can be done via meditation or bio-feedback.
Like I said these are my 2cents worth from my past, I was really meesed up from the age of 15 till about 32, when I finally got a true understanding of what I was dealing with. One piece of advice I can give if you have a arelative that is getting medical attention, and you or they do not like the way things are going, get another opinion, and keep doing so until you find someone that makes sense. I went through 10 therapists in 20 years most of them in the first 10 years. in the latter 10 years, I found 2 that were awesome.
Good luck........You can either fight it or learn to harness it and use its power. | |
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Posted: 12/6/2005 4:56:05 PM | If you think your child has ADD here are 25 positive thing about a child having ADD/ ADHD
1- Lots of Energy
2- Willing to try anything, will to take risks
3- Can talk a lot, ready to talk
4- Gets along with adults
5- Can do several thing at a time
6- Smart
7 - Needs less sleep
8- Good sense of humour
9- Very good at taking care of younger children
10- Spontaneous
11- See details that others miss
12- Empathy, - Understands what its like to be picked on and blamed
13- Can think of new and different ways of doing things
14 - Volunteers to help others
15- Happy and enthusiastic
16- Imaginative and creative
17- Articulate - can say things well
18- Eager to make new friends
19- Great memory
20- Sensitive - compassionate
21- Courageous
22 - More fun to be with then other kids
23 - Charming
24 - Warm and loving
25- Care a lot about family
I know not an answer to your question but it puts a positive spin on it.
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Posted: 12/6/2005 8:02:19 PM | SevenOfNine,
If you feel there is a possibility that you may suffer as well talk to your Dr or your sons psychiatrist/psychologist. There are specific tests that they do which are non-invasive as well as getting your medical history from childhood and some other things.
Most adults who have managed have a distinct personalities that include things like high caffeine intakes, drinking, possible drug use/abuse, depression, and other things. You can get a lot of info by googling ADD/ADHD.
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Posted: 12/7/2005 1:03:24 AM | How old is your child ADHD is very over diagnosed and ODD is when a child has no stucture.
You have to lay down the law show them whos boss and never back down more a learned behavor than an illness. The child could also be confused as to who to listen to depending on how long you have been around and is the childs mother still involved? Does the child listen to the father? I hope this helps and you may need to take the child to see someone let me know how it goes for you. | |
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Posted: 12/7/2005 2:30:56 PM | Thank you so much everyone for all of ur positive feedback, now I feel so much support here  ...and especially blueflame11; when I read ur list of positives I almost cried...thank you. I do know how wonderful my not-so-little sonshine is and I thank you for reminding me of the good stuff because I do feel the pressure from his school and stuff but I also feel his pain...
He does try to calm himself down & I will have to remember to tell him about the counting to 10 thing, I somehow learned that subconsciously on my own but seeing it here in writing helps me realize that I could help him with utilizing some of my coping mechanisms as well..thank you again.
And about the signs in adults, I have had them all! Omg! But I am happy to say that finally, now that I am 35 I am somehow managing this on my own...(I do take effexor and a sleeping aid sometimes lol). Hopefully i can better equip my son so that he doesn't have to have all the struggles I did; or at least better tools than I had. I do overdo it on the coffee & I have 3 years clean from drug and alcohol abuse, so the signs were all there, and I did have several counsellors but mostly due to other 'problems' - we never even imagined that it could be add or adhd omg! My counselling was mostly due to depression and other things because I have been probably more 'sensitive' than other people most of my life; and getting myself into situations that now I see could have been caused by not fully realizing the consequences beforehand, and/or not believing that they could actually happen to me...
My son's 1st pediatrician's app't was yesterday. She wanted to throw drugs at him, and that is not going to happen at this point. He is 8 years old and seems to be thriving or at least beginnning to thrive at my dad's place on the island. I am still settling this fact within myself that he is better off there than in this city with me; my dad lives on a reserve and I live in the city, we have joint custody as my son's biological father left me before josh was born. The pediatrician did not even want to test him for anything omg!!! She quickly sized him up and the little bit of info my dad had managed to get from the school...and then got on this ritalin talk! Omg! No ritalin to say the least! She denied hearing anything negative about ritalin, although my dad knows firsthand the bad effects of it; he told her about another boy he was taking care of who is mentally slower than other kids his age. He reminded her that he had brought this boy to her in the past. The ritalin did more harm than good. I also told her what other people with firsthand knowledge had informed me about concerning ritalin.
Well, she almost refused to even write up an order for a liver test on my son just to see if he could handle any drug to begin with omg! At the end of it, seeing that neither my dad or I could reach her,  She seemed determined that he did not need any testing at all! We finally just accepted the medication she ended up throwing at us, saying that after he gets his liver tested, and after the x-mas holidays we may try this 'new' medication! It's apparently only 2years in testing too! It is called Strattera...has anyone heard about this drug at all? | |
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Posted: 12/7/2005 3:57:07 PM | I have ADD, my dad has ADD, my brother has ADD, and I'm 3/4 of the way through a psyc degree. Get the book "driven to distraction" and "answers to distraction" both are excellent and written by 2 doctors who have ADD.
ADD and HD are 2 different beasts, they were grouped together by the most politicaly driven "scientific" community, the APA. Thesae are the same people who decided homosexuality was a disease. The push for grouping them together came from lawyers who found all the different illnesses hard to keep track of, and wanted larger vaguer clusters. They (the APA ) grouped ADD and HD together primarily due the the fact the most common therapy is stimulant medications (ritalin). Its has as much validity as saying you have and ear infection/sphylus both disease can be treated by the same drugs. The reason I'm pointing that out is is that it is 2 very different conditions, that are best treated with cognitive therapy and sometimes drugs.
For ADD, that name is misleading, people with ADD just have bad control of their sustained attention. I have accidentaly worked 24 hours shifts ( I'm a computer programer) durring periods of hyper vigilence, and I have vague days where I cant focus for more then 10 minutes. On a vague day ritalin helps me, but I know whats going on and do more active work that day. ( I have a great job, I can go down the hall and work on heavy mechanical systems when vague.) I've adapted my work days to the way I am, and multitask so I always have something to switch to when I need to. I also have NO sense of time, none at all, so at work one of my coworkers taps me on the shoulder for coffee, lunch and home time. I also have problems with organization, so I have white boards, and wrote a white board program that I have running at work and at home, they talk to each other so at either place I have the same schedule.
Exercise is a great help.
My brother has ADD and HD, the HD is his bigger problem, once again exercise is VERY important for his continued survival. I don't know many coping strategies for HD.
The cognitive therapy is critical, learning coping strategies is important as well as owning the behaviours. If I was allowed to get away with crap because I have ADD, I wouldn't have learned the strategies that allow me to have a great job and not spend too much time in the emergency department.
I hate the cult of victimhood, you have to teach the kids a sense of personal responsibility, not just drug dependence.
HTHs
feel free to contact me off the forum
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Posted: 12/11/2005 11:55:59 AM | | i have a child with add and two children with adhd. and it is very hard at tiems to deal with but i had them evulated and the dr. put them on the right meds the first try lucky us and they are doing much better. | |
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