| When You Don't Try To Get Into Her Pants
Posted: 6/16/2008 7:06:58 PM |
...treat her like a sex object
On "Married ... with children" a woman once complained that men only look at her like a piece of meat, to which Peggy replied she WISHED Al would look at her like a piece of meat. It is all a matter of perspective. Since the man is wrong anyway, he might as well do what works best for him... | |
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| When You Don't Try To Get Into Her Pants
Posted: 6/16/2008 7:53:39 PM |
I swear to God, I will NEVER figure out women, even if I live to be 100.
If you men figure us out then how can we continue to baffle you and make you shake your head in complete confusion?
SIMPLY ENJOY US ....  | |
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| When You Don't Try To Get Into Her Pants
Posted: 6/16/2008 8:09:34 PM | There was one occassion where a girl kept shutting me down sexually beyond what falls under third base terrority. I gave up the last couple times we hung out, didn't even bother. When she asked why I didn't want to see her again I told her flat out, and that night it became a sexual relationship.
would I had waited longer if I was getting sex from another girl? Maybe...I dunno. probably not much longer though.
was I trying to be a gentlemen: nah, I don't like ultimatums but in this case it payed off for me in the form of years of sexual exploration with this formely uptight ice queen who was really a huge sexpot inside. Being a true gentlemen may bring a smile to your older female relative's faces, or some middle aged divorcee, but if you don't show a sexual interest in the average 20-27 year old women within the first few dates she's not going to be impressed. By the way, by gentlemen I don't mean manners, being suave is fine, pretending to be a eunuch is pathetic. | |
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| When You Don't Try To Get Into Her Pants
Posted: 6/16/2008 8:32:46 PM | quote] When you're dating a woman and not trying to get into her pants, is it because
(A) YOUR GAY
(B) YOUR CLINICALLY DEAD
(C) SHE HAS CRABS
(D) ALL OF THE ABOVE | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 8:39:01 PM | I have always been a gentleman and never put pressure on a woman for sex. But patience always pays off, if I wait long enough...............9 out of 10 times I will be asked for sex and several times it was demanded of me for sex and I don't have to be getting it from somewhere else for this to happen. Like I said, patience....................  | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 8:47:23 PM | You know, a guy just can't win. If you try to have sex and be all frisky, then you are a perv. If you don't try to have sex, and don't try to be all frisky you must be getting it somewhere else. I swear to God, I will NEVER figure out women, even if I live to be 100.
If I walked on water, you would say it's because I can't swim.
LOL...that is hilarious. If it makes you feel any better, we can't figure you guys out either!
I we give it up too quick we are "sluts" and if not quick enough you might lose interest. We have our issues too. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 9:01:16 PM | | We could reverse this and say, If the woman doesnt put out then does that mean she is getting it from somewhere else? I think I understand why the men are upset about this thread. It is like asking Do you still beat your wife type of question...there is no right answer. Basically it appears to be saying that unless they are getting it from somewhere they cant be a gentlemen. I don't think that was the orginial intend but I can see how some might read into it. Bottom line is some men will do this and some women will do this and those that do ...do. Only by giving someone enough time to get to know them will you be able to figure out who someone is... anything less than that you are judging someone without knowing who they are and the error is on your part. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 10:41:57 PM | This is a 'no win' situation for men as women do tar men with the same brush. Yes there are a lot of players out there but there are also lots of genuine guys who perhaps do believe in old fashioned courtship. If a guy doesnt push you for sex, it doesnt mean that he is not attracted to you or is 'getting it' elsewhere. He may just being cautious......Aids is still around you know....or maybe he wants to make the first time special.
In addition, if a girl wants to find out if a guy is genuine about her then make him wait before 'putting out'. If he is serious about you then he will respect you and bide his time | |
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| When You Don't Try To Get Into Her Pants
Posted: 6/16/2008 10:43:42 PM | I we give it up too quick we are "sluts" and if not quick enough you might lose interest. We have our issues too.
That's not entirely true. It's a self applied label. Are guys actually calling you a slut, or do you THINK they are? Or, is it women who put this label on each other?
Now, I have run across a few guys who have proven this true. But, they are in the minority, and we have already sent a team of ninjas to their homes to dispatch them. (To those who are reading this, do not look in the closet. Not because they're in there, but while you're busy looking, they'll sneak up on you.)
If you know the definition of slut, and you do something sexual, you have to ask "Do I fit the definition?" If you say yes, that defines me as a slut...well, you are one. If you say "No, that is not the definition of slut.", then you aren't one. It's pretty easy when you get the hang of it, and act ethically. :) | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 11:02:50 PM |
It is like asking Do you still beat your wife type of question...there is no right answer.
I suppose those with the truest, most righteous answer are condemned then....
Thank you for that.
I don't think that was the orginial intend but I can see how some might read into it.
Offended again... different wavelength. My fault.
nything less than that you are judging someone without knowing who they are...
Would you be insinuating that we are allowed to judge one another once we've touched souls and/or lives???
What a saddening notion this feels to me.
I am so CONFUSED!!!!!
I'm sorry, I'm a bit lost now...:(
I must go read something else.
I'll be back I am sure....
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| When You Don't Try To Get Into Her Pants
Posted: 6/17/2008 12:06:47 PM |
I think this is where the line: "It just happened!!" was born!! You know? I think I agree with you on that quote. It probably was born out of a one time thing.........Then when it happened again and again......someone just took that and "ran" with it..... It's what my friend's (ex) husband said every one of the 4 times she caught him.....lol | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 12:15:18 PM | The whole point of this is to not get in her pants, but rather have her get into yours.......works oh so much better........ 
OT.......Equality is the key in what you do and how you act, and for me at least, I find that most women want the same thing I do, just may go about it differently.....
I long let the getting to first base attitude go, and moved well beyond hitting on many to hopefully get a few that will, to treating those I am with as my equal partner that will let me know what they want as much as I will them.....
The more you act like an individual and not like a school boy hoping to get lucky, the better off you are, and the better off those around you will be too....
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Posted: 6/17/2008 3:02:30 PM |
It is like asking Do you still beat your wife type of question...there is no right answer.
Excuse me ~ what?
It is the most used example of an accusation in the form of a question, of a question that cannot be answered with damaging yourself. The question is set up such that it assumes the person being asked 'beat his wife' at some time, just answering it will tend to make people listening believe the accusation to be true. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 7:14:53 PM | please say, the reason men can't win with HER. I think it's normal for a guy to take his time and get to know someone. Please don't generalize her weird suspicions to all women, just as she is trying to impute bad motives to all guys.
Again, only the OP would think this, as I don't think guys are charicatures of bad magazine articles about guys. Before you get all paranoid and touchy, this is one woman's opinion.
Excuse me Thatswhatshesaid, but I must say that I think it would be fabulous and highly enlightening if you actually read all the posts before making insulting and inaccurate comments about another person.
I have not said that was my position, in point of fact, I have stated specifically that it was not. What has been stated in this thread is that a man started a thread in Ask A Girl about this. I disagreed with his assertion, therefore I started this thread to confirm what I already believed, which is that the majority of men are not that way.
I'm sitting on my hands now, before I say something.....not nice. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 11:26:50 PM | I believe in the beginning the gal should let the guy know when she's ready. After that the guy can let her know in whatever way they click with. Some guy's, including myself, are a little afraid scaring off someone we may really like, or at worst, getting a knock at the door by the police the next morning saying you got carried away last night and would you please come with us.  | |
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| When You Don't Try To Get Into Her Pants
Posted: 6/18/2008 2:48:42 AM | i am that way when i am starting to get to know someone, i act like a "gentleman" and no, it is not because i am getting it someplace else. the first few dates are to get to know someone, to see if there is any chemistry. if there is and we continue to see each other..... | |
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| When You Don't Try To Get Into Her Pants
Posted: 6/18/2008 5:58:04 AM | Some Fifty years, or so ago a naive young girl graduated from an Australian Catholic convent to enter university. This kids name was Germaine Greer and it’s important to clearly establish her background because her naive comments have had such a massive influence on female attitudes for the last half century.
In those days girls normally left school after year eight. They lent a hand in caring for their younger siblings, or nieces and nephews, until they were considered old enough to marry themselves.
Catholic convents, teaching senior years, existed for only three reasons.
The first was the finishing school and those of the same style. A factory to turn out suitable wives for pollies, diplomats, and industry captains.
The second reason was to keep any girls, who were already too keen on boys, well away from them till they were at least eighteen, sometimes twenty.
The final reason was as a breeding ground for the next generation of nuns.
At a sexual level these schools were not just non sexual. They were anti sexual. Not a problem if the convents were purely breeding grounds for the next generation of nuns but a disaster when the girls left to become wives and mothers. The nuns who ran then were sexually frustrated themselves, with their hormones continually on the rampage, and that frustration was often savagely unleashed, on the girls, when these rapidly maturing girls did show any interest in boyfriends.
This was the world that this child, by the name of Germaine Greer left to enter university. It was also an age where the status of women was changing. Rosie the riveter and her sisters had already proved themselves industry capable in the munitions factories during world war two.
This was the seed of the women’s lib movement which re started at the time.
This movement was something that Greer, often unintentionally, milked for all it was worth, often getting credit for advances that she had little or nothing to do with..
The sexual repression however was something that Greer vigorously rebelled against. For a decade, or two, anyway!
But there was still no way that she could go through her convent upbringing without being influenced by it. On the campus she was shocked to hear young men discussing their sex lives as casually as they discussed the footy scores.
This led Greer to come barging blindly out with one of the worst pieces of misinformation that has ever dogged, and destroyed relationships for the past half century.
“Men are a bunch of slaves to their penises and are after nothing from a relationship but a semen spittoon.”
Now any teenage kid, who is young, stupid, and thinks they know the ways of the world , will regularly drop these clangers, not just on sexual issues but on everything from politics, to money, to whatever. Most of these comments don’t go much past general conversation, and rarely beyond the conversation of young teenagers.
But for some inexplicable reason, several generations of women, with a thousand times the sexual savvy as the young Greer, have blindly swallowed this particular “penis slaves” blunder, hook line and sinker. Millions of women, worldwide, have dedicated all their efforts to providing a better semen spittoon, in an effort to make relationships work. To the total neglect of the million and one other things that also go into a successful relationship!
The voice that declared men a bunch of penis slave s wasn’t the voice of a feminist at all. It was the voice of a nun.
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