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Posted: 6/24/2008 8:34:52 AM | The early prediction is out, of who will be in this years Grey Cup, and the season has not even started, yet.
It is going to be one of Bombers old arch rivals, and no it won't be the Riders this time.
Bombers vs Lions Grey Cup this year.
Awwww, yes, Bombers vs Lions in the Grey Cup, interesting enough the last time these two squared off in the Grey Cup was in 1988, so this match up is looooooooooooooooooooong overdue. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/24/2008 2:20:59 PM | May I say something here? Ok I will say it anyway.
Difference between a Rough Rider fan and a Blue Bomber fan?
Bomber fans actually listen and believe those predictions they make about them....good or bad !
Read Doug Brown's comments in today's Freeee Presssss! He might BIG! He might be BLUE! But he makes some real good points about the difference in "expectations" and "expecting to win".
Yes the Riders have not won the Grey Cup all that often and at one time the Bombers were a dynasty. That might be one of the key reasons why Rider fans are the BEST!! (besides the fact that the Labor Day Classic sold out within minutes ...yes ALREADY!.....have you got your tickets for the re-match yet??)
The Rider fans have only see seen their team win the Grey Cup when they have been the "under dogs".....So don't be so keen on predicting and raising everyones hopes high....one little thing like a broken wrist can CHANGE EVERYTHING.....and remember when the play offs start its a WHOLE NEW SEASON.
So having said that, I think and hope all goes well for the Bombers and that the signs of pig headness of Berry doesn't cause him to shoot off his nose to spite his face but predicting B.C to be there is totally wrong.....The Eskimos are very due...and that is disgusting enough , let alone the Lions.....
I will predict one thing though.....both the Lions and Edmonton will be fined heavily for over spending the salary cap! | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/24/2008 5:49:16 PM | Early predictions as to who will win the Grey Cup are just to get people talking, and showing support for their hometown team. Injuries play a huge role in how a team performs and who will win. In any team sport environment, it comes down to the final game, what team has the least amount of players sitting out while being on the injured list, and what team is "on" for that game. As a spectator, one can only hope for an exciting season with good football, and exciting conference final games.
Keep reading the papers boys, need to keep that industry busy and writers employed! | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 6:25:12 PM | Good pointers, tempt your kharma, however, it also would not surprise me, that the Lins for one, will be fined heavily for over spending on the salary cap, because they have done it before.
Anyhow, will have to see if the Bomber vs Lions Grey Cup for this year, holds true, however, I will say, that I bet Bombers WIL be the ones at the Grey Cup to represent, which, the East or West, now.
Good lord, they have switched Bombers back and forth, between the East and West, soooooooooooooooo, mny times, just mybe, JUST MAYBE, some of those eastern cities, east of Manitoba, could take some valuable lessions from the Western Teams, spacifically, Bombers for one, on HOW, TO, financially Manage, and run a football.
Maybe that is where Lyle could make some extra bucks for Bombers, of teaching some of these IDIOTS, that don't know HOW, to financially, Manage, and build a football team.
Also, did they say that the Ottawa whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, were coming back, eventually, EVENTUALLY, therefore of the Ottawa whoooooooooooooooooo team comes back, are they going to beable to keep them in Ottawa, as the
Ottawa whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, team. Did someone say, the Renegades, geez, Ottawa has had so many team names, it is hard to keep track of them all.
First the Rough Riders, then the Renegades, he he he, maybe they should do a name change for the Senators, to even things up in the Capital city, for crying out loud.
And should the Ottawa whoooooooooooooooooooo, ever come back, then how many established teams, primarily form the West, are going to have to coughup some of their decent players, to make the Ottawa whoooooooooooooooooooooooo, a viable team again, and for how long.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, man, the ever changing, and revolving doors, of the CFL, either ya like it, or hate it.
Shall we flip a coin?
Heads or Tails? | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 10:52:31 PM | Nope, missed it, however, caught some of the highlights, Dinwiddie played excellent, glad that they signed him tho, cause he WILL, make an excellent backup to Glenn.
Hope that Berry will play them both, in the season opener against Argos, play Glenn in the first half, and Dinwiddie in the second half, and smoke the living crap out of the Argos, at Canad Inns Stadium.  | |
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Posted: 6/25/2008 7:42:21 AM | I am glad ottawa realized there is only one TRUE Rough Rider team.
Renegades is pretty good...they can have it!
However, it is funny ! In the most conservative(small'c') city in Canada....full of tight assed, anal retentives....they call their team "renegades" ...ya right !!!
Ottawa! The fourth largest city in Canada...not including the "city formerly known as Hull"...but of course a Quebecer would never be seen supporting something in English Canada....they probably think they need a passport to cross the border......and they can't get 25,000 people to a professional football game.
They should be ashamed of themselves !! DISGRACEFUL!!
Its not like they can't afford it!!
If an American small city can get 50,000 people to a College game and still support an NFL team within driving distance, why can't a city of a million people support a CFL team.....its not Soccer for pete's sake! Its REAL FOOTBALL! The epitome of team work and determination and fighting fair for a prize!!
You know if they would loosen the rules to allow tail gate parties more freedom maybe we could make this an even better sport!
I know I am bouncing around here but I vote "yes" to allowing Toronto to buy the Buffalo Bills! | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/25/2008 11:15:35 AM | Westwood needed to be perfect this training camp for him to keep his job after last season. His performance in the playoffs was almost undoubtedly the only reason he was even offered the chance to try out at training camp this year.
The simple facts are that he basically did not perform in the regular season last year. His playoff performance was phenomenal as it usually is (exception 2001 Grey Cup), but he wouldn't have even had the chance to show it if we had an actual placekicker last year.
I would of liked to see Troy remain as the punter (and only the punter)... his performance in that respect has been quite admirable (even last year). From what I hear, in the pre-season game at least one of his two punts that ended up in the endzone was from a bad bounce... I would of liked to see him given more "in-game" chances to show that he could remain useful as a punter, and as a tool to train his replacement placekicker.
The big thing the bombers have lost getting rid of Troy in this manner is the loss of his wealth of experience... he never passed on his experience to the younger kickers because of the conflict one would expect when someone is trying to take his job. I think the Bomber Brass made a mistake simply kicking him off the team this year... his punting average (and kickoffs) make him worthwhile to keep around, and if told that is his role - no possibility of placekicking... maybe he would have taught the new guy something to help the team. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2008 1:58:19 PM | would of liked to see Troy remain as the punter (and only the punter)... his performance in that respect has been quite admirable (even last year). From what I hear, in the pre-season game at least one of his two punts that ended up in the endzone was from a bad bounce... I would of liked to see him given more "in-game" chances to show that he could remain useful as a punter, and as a tool to train his replacement placekicker.
The big thing the bombers have lost getting rid of Troy in this manner is the loss of his wealth of experience... he never passed on his experience to the younger kickers because of the conflict one would expect when someone is trying to take his job. I think the Bomber Brass made a mistake simply kicking him off the team this year... his punting average (and kickoffs) make him worthwhile to keep around, and if told that is his role - no possibility of placekicking... maybe he would have taught the new guy something to help the team.
^^^^^^^B I N G O, you make a very good point, wpgreadytogo:
At least, give Troy, a regular season game tries instead, rather then mark him the way he is now. Troy HAS, done an excellent job, and ya, they could of used his valable experience as a punter, because, looking back over the years, they kept old time veteran, Bob Camerson around long enough as a teacher with his punting experience to pass onto Troy, when Troy was new, so, totall agree, that Bomber brass, made a major, MAJOR, mistake of letting Troy go, soon, because, with Troy's punting experience, he could of done the same thing as former punter, and Bomber veteran Bob Camerson did.
All that good puting experience, now GONE, by letting Troy go, too soon. That is what happens, when you have somes, I said SOME, Management that cannot see the forrest for the trees, and only see ONE THING, and that is their BOTTOM DOLLAR LINE, and nothing else.
In some respects, I hope that Berry and Taman's decision comes back to haunt them, that later on in the year, that they will go back to Troy, BEGGING him to come back, all because, that these new guys IF, and WHEN their stamina breaks down, that Troy will be there once again so save Bombers, and Berry;s and Taman's HYDE, from ruin.
And you know what, if that happens, I hope that Troy takes it, comes back, and SHOWS, Barry and Taman, the great big HUGE MISTAKE, that they made, in letting him go in the first place. By Troy proving, that HE, still has what it takes, LEFT in HIM.
Hey Troy, c'mon back, pal, we NEED you, man, and need you baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
Ya just don't boot an old vet in the b a l l s, and then think ya can get away with it.
OH, NO, ya don't, even Bobby Cameron, in his elder stages of life, was bootin that ball pretty darn good, so, ya can never, EVER, count an old time vet out, that has a lot of experience. Because, if you do, then YOU are making one H E L L - OF a MAJOR MISTAKE. like it OR NOT. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/25/2008 2:48:20 PM | Westwood will NEVER be back as a Bomber just as long as Berry is there. It's no secret that he never cared for Westwood much and I think the feeling was mutual. I totally agree his place kicking wasn't where it needed to be, but as a punter he was still in line with what they wanted stats wise (they want a punter with a 42 yd average and he was just over 43 yds in the last 2 seasons).
Hell he didn't even know he couldn't try out for punting until he heard it on the sports news! Nice job there coach...
You don't like the guy, hey that's fine, but don't toss someone who's good for someone you have no clue about! | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/25/2008 3:51:05 PM | You don't like the guy, hey that's fine, but don't toss someone who's good for someone you have no clue about!
Good point, Danooooo:
Yup, becase, that is like biting the hand that fed ya, and ya, it sure seems like Berry had it in, for Troy, and too bad to. It is too bad, that a coach goes to that kind of extent, however, I hope Berry does not pull the same with his other players, because, if he does, he is going to not only have Taman to face, but, BUT, the big man, Lyle Bauer as well.
And I don't think Berry wants to be squaring off with Bauer, at any time soon, let alone Taman. Bauer may be older then he used to be, when he was playing offensive lineman, but, there is still a fair amount of toughness in him, that he can still hold his own, if it ever came to push vs shove.
Anyhow, regular season starts pretty darn soon, agains the Agos, so, since it is in Canad Inns Stadium, it is time to set the tone, deep sinking that boat load with boatmen on board.
For Bombers, just pick it up from where they left off last year, against the Argo in the Eastern Final, with 19 to what win over the Argos.
GO BOMERS GO, deep sink that Argo's boat, to the bottom of the ocean. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/25/2008 8:55:51 PM | BINGO !! BINGO again!
You have expressed well a point I have been trying to make:
There was some sort of a personality problem between Berry and Westwood!
Of course as wise professionals neither will admit it....I find it difficult to believe I have not heard ONE media type even mention this.
And this is where I TOTALLY blame Berry.....He is lying! And he is letting his personal differences affect the quality of the team he is putting out there. Look out when a coach does that!
Westwood was a VERY good punter ALL last season...and VERY good in the play offs....and he punted better than anyone I have seen this season based on the first exhibition game....DID he fumble the ball..NO! DID he duff one 30 yards with the wind and get a lucky bounce that took it 45 yards...NO! DID he stub his toe and not be able to play....I don't think EVER!!!
As a Field Goal kicker he never was the best! Last year he sucked! BAD!! but was good enough when it mattered. Of course my expectations have always been elevated when it comes to Field Goal Kickers.....The Riders have had Ridgeway and others who were among the best ever! (Of course they HAVE to be good or they get death threats and manure dumped on their lawns otherwise)
So there was NO WAY that Toe Manny had to be brought in...and if they wanted to go with youth ....THEN WHY THE HELL NOT MAKE WESTWOOD the punting coach???
Part of the problem also appears to be that some coachs have the mistaken impression that a Field Goal Kicker should also be a punter. Inorder to free up a spot on the roster they are willing to have a mediocre Field Goal Kicker as long as the guy can be a mediocre punter too. Very few teams make it as Grey Cup winners by taking that approach. WAIT !!! I just thought about another reason Westwood had to go...maybe he EXPECTED more money than could be justified under the salary cap. They had to let other good players go for that reason . | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/25/2008 11:50:02 PM | Well now, ya it could be a very interesting season, with these two new guys, one as pinter, and one as field goal kicker, and since Berry looks like to be the culprit for getting rid of Westwood, we will see how long Berry lasts then, without Westwood.
Ya, Westwood WAS, a one H E L L of a good punter, can remember him blasting those punts, 70 to 80 and as hig as 90 yards, just like cannon leg Bernie Ruoff did.
Too bad, they didn't hog tie Mikey, when he was recently up for the celebration of the Hall of Fame inductees dinner for Khari Jones and Scott Flagel, and made Mikey the head coach and gave Berry the all might BOOT, like he did with Westwood.
Good old Mike Riley, a likable, and easy going coach, that ALL of his players loved him, just ask Lyle, about the many times, that theydumped buckets of ice over the guy.
Now THAT, is the type of coach that Bombers need, is one like Mikey, and not Berry.
Oh well, and so the beat goes on. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/26/2008 7:23:45 AM | Well Berry is not a total incompetent and he does appear at least to have the control and respect needed for a good team.
If his players don't like him, that can be alright but then he must over compensate by being so dam good they respect him implicitly.
There is COACH who I CAN"T STAND....who is probably the winningest coach of all time who is coaching the Hamilton Tiger Cats. I wish we could have got him!! These Ti-cats maybe the big surprise this season.
A little off topic....but what do think about Cito Gaston rejoining the Blue Jays? | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/26/2008 9:59:31 AM | Hmmm, don't follow baseball that much if at all, however, back on topic, sure, Berry maybe a competant coach, however, ya cannot have your own personal feelings run the gamot, and also, ya have to be realistic about your expectations of a player, I said REALISTIC. Therefore, WAS, Berry REALISTIC in his expectations of Troy.
Thing that is amazing, and really gets me is, when a coach or any form of Managment can do these things, BONEHEAD things, and get away with it, all because, they are MANAGEMENT, but, BUT, WHEN, and IF ever the sledgehammer DOES come down on thier heads, for BONEHEAD decisions, they then are just as human as ANYONE else.
However, until that time as some form of MANAGER, they can get away with ANYTHING, as long as they have at least some sort of justifiable, and most likely BS excuse that they can use to cover their SORRY, F'N A S S E S with, then they will be ok.
And they talk about incompetant players, HUH, how about incompetant MANAGERS as well.
As they say, about the two(2) rules, regarding the boss.
Rule #1, the boss is ALWAYS right.
Rule #2, If the boss is wrong then see rule number #1.
Another words, NO MATTER if the boss is right or wrong, the boss is ALWAYS right.
And I say, B U L L S H I T, they are!
Oh, well, and hey, about the Ti-Cats, they just might very well be the surprise team in the East.
The Ti-Cats, have been laying kind of dormant fo a while now, and with Printers on board with them, that dormant Ti-Cat team, just may very well emerge into a contending team in the East.
The Ti-Cats could easily be the spoilers in the East, and Bombers had better keep an eye out for the Ti-Cats as well, because, the Ti-Cats could very well make the playoffs this year, at least contend with the Al's for third, because, the Al's I think are a slowly declining club, especially with Jim Popp And Don Matthews gone.
The Al's could be vulnerable, and staring QB, Cavillo is getting older, well, we will just have to see how it turns out this year, because, there is no doubt, that there will be some unexpected surprises, and upsets in the CFL this year.
Just got to see who they will be, as the year goes on, and as it the year winds down in the season, and towards the playoffs, leading up to te Grey Cup.
I will say, that Bombers will be in the Grey Cup this year, representing what, the east, or, will it be the west. LOL
However, HOWEVER, which ever way that you look at it, Bombers, just may have a little bit of a battle on their hands to win the East division title, to represent the EAST at the Grey Cup this year, tho.
And don't be surprised to see, the Ti-Cats, take out the legs and feet of the Al's this year, for that third place position, to quality for the eastern playoffs. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2008 8:31:54 AM | Its scary being on the same with someone so closely...good thing you are not a woman, I might be tempted to cheat! LOL!
Where is Dan Matthews anyway? He didn't go start a rock group called the Dan Matthews band did he?
I am just wondering cause we might need him here if Berry doesn't win the cup this year.
Frankly, Doug Browny points made a good comment about people putting too much pressure on the Bombers this year....It ain't good. It can back fire !
You know what, however, I wonder what the odds of another back to back Grey Cup of the Bombers and the Riders.....The odds must be outstanding but it might be a bet worth taking!! If I can find a Vegas odds maker to take it, I have chance at early retirement. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/27/2008 10:22:19 AM | | Brown suggests that we are putting too much "pressure" on the Bombers this year - ya, right. They are paid to play and their goal/target should be to win games, to show their excellence in the sport, and for some reason people forget that its, THEIR JOB. If they have to whine and snivel about people expecting too much from them, then I say they should not be dressing for the game. The right to wear that jersey is more than just making through training camp. As the old saying goes, "If its too hot, then get out of the kitchen". They could always leave and go do a different type of work, if playing football is too hard for them.. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/27/2008 10:50:19 AM | ...and Toronto will win the Stanley cup too! 
Oh and for those who won't be attending the game in person tonight and those without satellite...tsn.ca has it online. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/27/2008 1:55:18 PM | ^^^^^^First regular HOME game of the season,, got to set the tone, and start it offf right, by SINKING that Argos ship to the bottom depths of the ocean along with Kevin Eiben in it.
GO BOMERS GO, go get them Argos. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/27/2008 5:34:16 PM |
Oh and for those who won't be attending the game in person tonight and those without satellite...tsn.ca has it online.
This one is on TV. No Blackout. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/28/2008 1:50:08 AM | IT IS TIME, that Berry steps down as Bombers Head Coach, and for Lyle Bauer to step up to the plate, and take over as Head Coach, and ALSO, bring back Troy Westwood.
THOSE, two GOOFS, that Bombers have on their kicking team, let them go, and bring back Troy.
Ya honestly think that Troy, would of pulled the same stunt as Serena DID?
I doubt it, NOT a chance, and Bombers would of most likely WON, instead of losing.
NOPE, time for Berry to go BYE BYE, and replace him with Bauer, NO, IF's, WHEN's
OR BUT's. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/28/2008 9:10:35 AM | | Blaming Berry is wrong, because its not his fault, the receivers could not get in position and the Glen threw the ball to them anyway. In addition most of the plays have been centered around Milt and he was not playing, so this was a more of a test of abilities. I agree with Berry not playing Milt and testing the others. If Berry played Dunwitty more last year, he would of played better in the finals. This was only the first game and if this continued into the second game of the season, then Berry's actions should start to be questioned. Its important to use all the players as that will build a stronger team and not have to rely only on a few players. JMHO | |
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