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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/28/2008 10:27:39 AM | Did anyone notice that Stubler pulled his #1 Quaterback and replaced for abit with the #2 Quarter back? Could we not have tried out Dinwiddy a little.
It could be argued that berry was going for the "win" with only his best players.....T.O. was getting pushed...so what did they have to lose. But They did get to put both quarterbacks some game time....which I think is important when considering the whiole season.
So tell me ......our "D" was putting so much pressure on their Q's and Glenn was pressured but not to the same extent.....why did Glenn throw 3 interceptions?....he only threw 13 all last season.
Also why did our offence stall when they were in the "Red Zone"?
Frankly I think it has something to do with play selection ......and coaching.
Quite frankly T.O. seemed to know what our offence was going to do......they gave up the short passes all night.....they gave up much time control of the ball.....consequently the high offensive numbers .....but they didn't make stupid mistakes....they waited and let Winnipeg beat themselves.
Frankly, I think they were better prepared and more focused. THAT IS WHAT GOOD COACHING ACCOMPLISHES!
I am throwing this warning out there again.....about the the coaching....why?
The Bombers had the better team out there last night.....so why else would they lose? | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/28/2008 10:50:14 AM | Sue, Berry is the coach, is he not?
Therefore, being the coach, then he is the one who is suposed to be in command of which players come and go, out to the field, is that not correct.
Also, was it not Berry that got get rid of Westwood?
And was it not Berry, that wanted Westwood out, NOT, just because, he felt that Westwood was not up to par, but, BUT, more on a personal note, that Berry had it in for Westwood.
Yaaaaaaa, I think Berry di have it in for Troy.
And now what have they got for kickers, NOTHING, a great big fat ZERO, just a couple of goofball, wanna be morons.
That kick that Serena, screwed up on, in last nights game, wouldn't of happen if it was Westwood.
If it was Westwodd, that ball would of been ta H E L L out of there, and NOT FUMBLED, like Serena did.
NOPE, it is time that Berry GOES, and they Bring up Lyle Bauer.
Why Bauer you say.
As we all know, that Bauer used to play for Bombers, correct!
In fact HE, has played football, correct.
Therefore, Bauer knows the team, and knows it well, from a players prospective.
Does Berry,NO not like Lyle does.
Therefore, Bauer is able and capable to to see things from a Players level, and prospective where as with Berry, he can ONLY see it from a Management level, and that is it.
Another one, HAS Berry played football before, such as the same or similar level that Bauer has?
Probably not.
That is your difference, between Berry and Bauer, Berry cannot see it from a players level, and Bauer can.
9 times out of 10, a former football player, such as Bauer, in this case would make a far better coach then, JUST a Management type of coach, like Berry.
Another example, of how a former football player, such as Bauer would have a more positive impact of rebuilding a football team.
Go back about eight years ago, where Bombers were on the verge of folding.
Who is it, that comes to Bombers rescue with a business plan, of rebuilding Bombers, and who has made Bombers the thriving team that they are today?
BAUER, Bauer didn't do it alone, tho, mind you, yes Bauer had help, but, BUT, for one, Bauer was the one that provided the iniative, the business plan, and the needed Management skills that would helpe to resurrect, Bombers.
Bauer was the one, that got the wheels in motion, for Bombers recovery, and now, look at where Bombers are today, and with a new stadium planned t be built for Bombers, down at the water front of all places, but, keypoint, it was a Bauer, and a former Bomber player, that put the wheels inmotion, for all this to happen.
Remember, Bauer was not ONLY a former Bomber player, but also, he has business and Management skills as well from other business ventures that Bauer was involved in.
SO, DO YOU think I would honestly put Berry in charge of this situation, that Lyle is in, of running Bombers organization.
Not a flippen chance with Berry.
And it was Berry that made the BONEHEAD choice to let Westwood go, and now, what have they got for kickers, nothing, NOTHING.
Nope, time for Berry to GO, before he makes ANYMORE BONEHEAD decision that will cost Bombers.
And replace Doug Berry with Lyle Bauer.
To bad Bombers didn't snag and hog tie Mike Riley when he was up there.
Even Mike Riley, IS, a far, FAR better coach then Doug Berry, and Mikey has proved that.
And even good ole Cal Murphy is a far, FAR better coach then Doug Berry, and Cal has also proved that.
NOPE, time for Berry to go, NOW, before it is too late, and the damage is done even further.
Becase, Berry, is NOT a players kind of coach, where Bauer IS.
Bring on Lyle as Bombers coach, and get rid of Berry I say. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/28/2008 12:48:32 PM | Ok, another thought to solve this problem, SHOULD they decide to ever replace Doug Berry, is, replyace Berry with one of the most successful CIS coaches, that who has got a very successful program.
And he lives right in Bombers backyear, for crying out loud.
Ya, I am talking about Brian Dobi, of the CIS Manitoba Bisons.
Ya think that dobi and his program wouldn't work, and fit into Bombers?
GUESS AGAIN!
Because, how come, dobi's success, and program, has been s successful, that he has developed players, that so many of them are picked up by other CFL teams, INCLUDING Bombers.
Remember going back to 2001, when Brian Dobi's Bisons played the St. Mary's Huskies. Sure, the Bisons did not win, however, now fast forward from 2001, to 2007, it was Brian Dobi's Bisons against the St. Mary's Huskies again.
Guess who won that Battle, Brian Dobi's Bisons, thats who.
Still think that Brian Dobi and his program wouldn;t work for Bombers, then I would love to see Bauer and Taman hire Brian Dobi and his program, to see if it can work for Bombers.
Further more, why is Brian dobi and his program such a big success, it is because, his players of the Bison's beleieved, and respected in him, and trusted him as their coach.
Futher more, his players enjoyed playing for him, and they enjoyed playing for him soooooooooo, much, that his players went to WAR, for him.
But that is not all, Dobi treated his players as people, human beings, and as players, with the utmost respect.
Dobi is your classic example of a PLYERS, Coach, and NOT a hard nosed Management Coach, that ONLY treat their players as OBJECTS, much like Berry does.
And THAT, is your difference, between Dobi, your Players type of Coach, compared to Berry, your hard nosed, Management type of Coach.
It akes much more then, Management skills to run a football team, or any type of organization, it also take PEOPLE SKILLS, also known as SOFT SKILLS, to effectively, and successfully run a football team, or ANY, organization.
So, hire Brian Dobi and his program on a trial bases, and see what he can do for Bombers.
It just might surprise you, of what Brian Dobi can do, if he can take the Bison's to a Vanier Cup Victory over the St. Mary's Huskies, then HE, just may very well, take Bombers to a Grey Cup Victory, IF, Bauer and Taman would ONLY give him a chance.
And as said before, Brian Dobi lives right in Bomber own back yard, so why go looking elsewhere, when you got a Coach, that has a program, that has PROVED to WORK.
GO GET, DOBI. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/30/2008 9:49:52 AM | The interceptions in the TO game were mostly Glenn overthrowing his receivers (or they weren't far enough) - At least two of the three interceptions were balls thrown over the head of a open receiver directly into the hands of a DB 5-10 yards behind him. I believe that only one of the interceptions was actually a ball that the defender jumped into the line of.
To be honest I was fairly impressed with Serna on Friday... minus the one big f'up he did a pretty good job, except on Kickoffs. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 6/30/2008 4:35:33 PM | The mullet is gone, and so should this thread be, and what does this have to with dating and relationships????? Unless someone has some locker room advice they would like to share based on what???? Opps dropped the soap again??????????? | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 7/5/2008 11:30:12 AM | Chef this isn't a dating and relationship thread. This is a Manitoba thread and the Blue Bombers play in...yup you guessed it Manitoba!
And the Bombers will never die, they will just continue to lose. Too bad Glenn and company didn't show up until the second half...terrible terrible start to the game.
Oh and Serna has not impressed me one bit, I know that snap was high but he could have caught that, or at least run with the ball after he picked it up instead of standing there like a deer caught in the headlights. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 7/6/2008 12:18:07 PM | All I can say, is that Bombers had better get their act togeter PDQ, like, or else Troy won't be the only one t go and it does not exclude Berry.
Geez, they are not 0-2, I just wonder now, if letting Westwood was such a good idea.
Troy would of probably had saved Bombers hyde, by now, but, short-sighted Berry could not see that far down the road.
And if it gets any worse, Taman had better put the call out for Brian Dobi, like PDQ.
Ya think that Dobi, can't do the job, HMMMM, well, give him the chance, and I bet he CAN, just like he did for the Bison's.
And I hope that Taman is smart enough, to bring Dobi in, if need be. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 7/6/2008 12:27:54 PM | Hmmm, 0-2 now, eh.
Well, some heads are going to roll, pretty darned quick, at Bombers head office, and it will be Berry's if he is not careful. And I just wonder how these two gofs, at punting and field goal kicking are working out.
Which makes me thing, tat Berry jumped the gun too quickly, by getting rid of Troy, before the regular season.
Yup, the boys in Blu, had better get their act together, PDQ, or else, Berry's head is going to roll.
In fact, Taman, had better start thinking about bringing Brian Dobi in, to see if he can work his program with Bombes, like he did with the Bisons.
If ANYONE, that Taman has got on his radar screen, it has better be Brian Dobi, because, it is not just the players, it is also Berry as well, that is not getting the job done.
It would be very interesting to see how Dobi and his program would work with Bombers, it would be very, VERY interesting to see.
Think it wouldn't work?
Then give Dobi and his program a chance to prove it, that it can work for Bombers. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 7/6/2008 5:04:57 PM | Dakota - What's up with the "Dobi Recruiting"? Has he ever shown an interest in coaching at the pro level? And just because he's had success at the college level, why are you so convinced he'd thrive at the pro-level? And why would the Bombers even consider him? There's no guarantees of success. Totally different game / skill level. Coaches in this league are usually groomed as CFL assistants first, or they may even come from the NFL as heads or assistants. The last college coach (Canadian) to be handed a plum coaching job in the bigs was Greg Marshall (Hamilton) a few years back. He did alright at first, but was fired in his 3rd year and is back coaching college. Dobi isn't going to be just handed a pro football coaching job on a silver platter like Marshall was.
I'm not sure why you have this "hate-on" for Berry. The guy came in, took a lousy team, retooled them, and took them to a Grey Cup that thay MAY have won IF they had their starting QB. Not bad. Now they are off to a bad start and you are convinced that Berry should be fired??? This early in the season??
For the record, I liked Westwood a lot. I think he should have been retained as the punter ONLY, and Serna given the placekicking duties. But that's the coaches decision and it's done. There's obviously a lot more to this than we will ever know or see. And I don't understand why this Serna kid is now considered a "goof". He's trying to do a job, that he had VERY little experience at (punting), and he's a "goof"? Please explain.
Actually, aside from the two ball-handling mishaps, the kid has punted fairly well.
It's a little early to be calling for the heads of coaches at this stage. Berry has proven to be a very good coach at this level, and he won't be going anywhere for the time being. Bauer isn't about to panic two games into a long season, and neither is Berry. And as for Bauer coaching in the CFL...well, again, he has never expressed an interest in it and, to my knowledge, never coached a day in his life, at any level. He's an executive, not a coach. Two absolutely different jobs with nothing in common.
I'm hoping you already knew that tho..... | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 7/7/2008 12:05:51 AM | Ok, so, why am I screaming to bring in Dobi then.
When ya got a Bisons team that has had so many plyers, that have been selected from, to play in the CFL, by different teams, which Jamie Boreham is one of them, and Matt Sherridan for one, and Wade Miller for another that went to Bomers, ya tell me, that Dobi's coaching program, would not also work in the CFL, as well.
Given it a decent chance, I bet it would, a few modifications, and hey, other wise, Dobi has got a great program, and ya cannot deny that.
So, therefore, ya tell me, that you would not give it a try, to see if it can work for Bombers as well?
Now, that would be a major mistake, not to.
As far as Berry is concerned, sure he got them to the Grey Cup last year, he has done a great job, but, BUT, however, that was last year, this is this year and Bombers are
0 and 2, and against not one, but TWO teams that Bombers are going to have to play in the playoffs, TO and the Als.
It may seem safe now, but when it comes down to the wire, at the end of the year, that 2 game loss difference, may very well determine, if Bombers get to first place or not. Bomers may have more games between them and TO and the Als, but, letting it get down to the wire, is nuts.
So, tell me why, gamble with it, unless you like playing Russian roulette.
So, why am I calling for Berry;s head so soon, when ya got a proven vet, like Westwood, ya don't chuck him, in hopes that thses new guys work out.
That is STUPID coaching.
And I think you know, and are aware of that.
Sure, ya want to teach the these new guys, but, that fumble by Serna, that goof up cost the Bombers a TD, and possible the game as well. Where as with a guy like Westwood, do you think that he, would pull something like that?
Most likely not!, if anything that ball would of been out of there.
If Berry had his thinking cap on, he would of kept, Westwood, if not for punting or anything, then for teaching these new guys HOW to do the job.
So, by letting Westwood go, with ALL that experience, is a dumb move, ya remember when, they had Bob Cameron playing while Westwood was a young guy. Well then, ya tell me that Westwood could of not of done the same as for these new guys, as Cameron did for Westwod?
I think he could of, but, Berry had to have his way, and let Westwood go. DUMB MOVE.
That may not seem like much now, but, once again at the end of the year, that could of made the difference.
And now Bombers are 0 and 2, where they might be 1 and 1, if they had Westwod, teaching these new guys.
And, Westwod, knows his former teammates that he had played with, it was like a team spirit, and now, that tean spirit is gone. One player leaving like that, can effect a team, in a phsyological manner, and a playing manner. When you are faced with, third down, and yardage to go, ya ask, so where is Troy.
Guess what, Berry got Troy fired, and now you got these new guys in instead.
Also, to get that first and home game spot in the playoffs, ya don't want to have to be fighting like a dog to get it, near the end of the season.
Ya want to get that wrapped up as soon as you can.
So, that is why am I calling for Berry's head so soon, and calling Dobi in, to try his program with Bomers, to prove that if it can work.
But, is Taman, willing to try it, that is the question mark, right there.
As for Bauer taking over the coaching job, even tho he is in management, Bauer knows the players, and what it is like to be out on the field playing the game.
Does Berry?
Therefrore, Bauer can relate to what the players go through. from a players prospective, as well as a coach.
Can Berry?
Even Matt Dunigan, former Bomers QB, was a head coach for the Stampeders, one year, so it can be done, and Matt proved it.
Also, remember, Bauer played offensive lineman, with Bombers in 1990, when they had Tom Burgess as QB, and Bombers clobbered Edmoton, 50 to 11 for the Grey Cup at BC Place Stadium, that year, which I was at that game.
Point being, ya think that Bauer could not take over for, Berry.
Guess again, he could of, because, Bauer can relate to the players, from a players prospective. And Matt Dunigan proved it, that it can be done.
But, Bauer, is on the executive team instead, that is correct, trying to make sure that Bombers stay out of debt instead, of getting back into the hole that they were how many years ago, and Winnipeg, darned near lost the good old Bombers.
The league would not be quite the same, without Bombers.
Therefore, if Bombers lose any more games, Taman's job will also be on the line, therefore, Taman had better get Brian Dobi, and his proven program on his radar screen PRETTY DAMN QUICK like, then.
And I am not joking either.
I am going to leave it at that.
All, have a good night, now. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 7/7/2008 4:45:09 PM | There is no way of telling whether a "Dobi Program" would work in the CFL or not, but even he would say it's a different game at a different level. If you are talking about schemes, then who knows? Teams try diferent schemes and offences (eg. West Coast Offence) and sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. If you don't have the type of player(s) to run those offences (or defences) it doesn't work. Plus, if your opponents figure out a tactic to counteract your playbook, it doesn't work. There's lots of dynamics that come into this. Just because Dobi's had success here in college does not mean he'd translate that to the pro level. Greg Marshall was a great college coach, but didn't last long at the CFL level.
And to answer your question, "Could Bauer take over for Berry?" No. He's not a coach. Not all ex-players can coach. And relating to players is only part of the job. Pinball Clemons was a great one to relate to the players and the media. But he's not coaching now. Neither is Dunigan. Neither is Danny Barrett. The best coaches in CFL history were usually not ex-CFL players. An exception would be Ron Lancaster. Mike Riley was a very good coach and considered a real players' coach - very patient and easily approachable. Cal Murphy was also considered an excellent coach, but it is widely known that most of his players disliked him; he could be extremely harsh and was maybe the cheapest SOB the league has even known. So there's no real formula here for success. In the end, even the Don Matthews' get fired.
Just to make this really clear, as we could go back and forth "forever", are you actually saying that IF the Bombers lose another their next game (or even next two), that they should fire Berry and Taman and try to recruit a university coach who's never coached a down at the pro-level?? | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 7/7/2008 9:03:46 PM | The bombers have stunk up the field for years and thru numerous coaches..and i have given up on them , this is not an easy thing for me as i have supported them since before earl lundsford ...I just got tired of buying season tickets to an embarresment.
rebuilding a team is what they keep calling it .....just bury it and get the mourning over with | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 7/8/2008 2:51:44 AM | Just to make this really clear, as we could go back and forth "forever", are you actually saying that IF the Bombers lose another their next game (or even next two), that they should fire Berry and Taman and try to recruit a university coach who's never coached a down at the pro-level??
I am saying this, ya got to keep your options open right!
Ok then, I am saying give Dobi and HOS program a chance, and IF, JUST IF, it can PROVE it;s self in the Pro League, then are ya going to sneeze at it,
So ya, give Dobi, and his program a chance, because, by saying NO to it, then HOW do you know, that whethere Dobi's program will or will not work.
AND if it does not, then fine, at least ya gave it a try, right, ok, then.
As far as Berry is concerned, he and Bombers HAD, better start winning, and SOON.
TOO, many more losses, and ya get yourself into s position of playing catchup football, so when it comes near the end of the season, and down to the wire, getting closer to the playoffs, those earlier few games losses, may very well come back to haunt ya.
THEY, can determine, whether Bombers make the playoffs or not. And I think you know that. Further more, Lions were a great one to pull that stunt and it nearly cost then a playoff spot.
Luckly, they made it through, very luckly.
I am giving Berry another two or three more games, because, it DOES, come on the coaches shoulders. So, if Berry and Bombers don't start winning, within the next 2 to 3 games, Taman, had better start looking for anohter head coach, PRETTY DAMN QUICK, because, one, Tamnan;s job is then on the line as well, as Berry's, and Berry is NOT, doing his job of coaching, REMEMBER, it comes back to the coach.
Further more Bombers are then ONLY, digging themselves deeper in the hole, that they may not beable to get themselves out of, getting closer to the end of the season, and getting closer to the playoffs.
Ya can play Russian Roulette for so long, and then that gun goes off, BANG, your DEAD.
If you want to get into a dogfight at the end of the year, go for it, good luck tho.
As said before, Lions played that game many times, before, and they came pretty DAMN close to not making the playoffs.
Ya want to see Bombes go down that route as well, THEN, BERRY, and the Bombers had better start friggin WINNING, NOW, or else, suffer the CONSEQUENCES, and you know what that is, either not making the playoffs, or, OR, making it, and getting beat out again, by either, Argos, or the Als, and lord forbid, wose still, by Hamiton, or even a fourth place team from the west, that has a better winning record, then the third place team in the east does, and ya better hope like H E L L that is not Bombers.
Because, they DO, have a cross over from the west to the east, which I think you know.
ya remember when Bombers went on that major losing streak for a number of years, and they lost a lot of fan support, Winnipeg damn well nearly lost the Bombers.
Until Bauer showed up on the scene, with a business program, and a crew, that got Bombers, slowly digging out of financial debt.
THAT, was too close for comfort, and I don;t care, how many bucks and deep pockets, Can West Global has, if Bombers and not making it, then both, Lennard and David Asper will say enough is enough, we are losing too much money, and so will the local businesses.
YA LOST THE JETS, DON"T, I repeat, DON'T gamble on BOMBERS.
Ya think ya got a lot of cut throat business markets in Winnipeg, try having a look at down here at the coast. It is a darn good thing that there is such a high population down here, BUT, even with that, they are having enough problems keeping businesses going.
Because, it is that highly competitive.
Vancouver, have support the Lions, and Canucks, but, it is a good thing that they were supported by many more local businesses, we did have the Grizzley's basketball team for a few years, BUT, they could not keep the Grizzleys, so, they are gone.
Yet, the local businesses here, are still having a tough time, because, of the higher population, and competitive markets, and a lot of that is supported by Asians.
Think not, then why to H E L L do you think they call it Asia/Pacific. And you would know that, IF, you have lived down at the coast for a number of years.
Also, where do you think that a lot of your Asian's in Winnipeg come from?
Asia/Pacific, because, Vancouver is the biggest port in Canada for that, that is again why they call it Asia/Pacific.
That is why, there is so many Asian business people here, t support what we have here on the coast. The Asian's make up a good portion of Vancouver, and surrounding businesses, either them, or it is the Indo-Canadians.
So ya, Vancouver has got a lot more bucks to make, BUT, it has a lot more buck to burn as well.
Just thank your luck stars, that you have still got the Bombers, and have the Asper bucks, and influence on local businesses.
I have seen both sides of the coin, between here and there, I have been out here for over 30 years, and I have also been back there, a few times, which was my hometown for 20 years.
It is totally, two different worlds, between here and in Winnipeg, and I have seen and lived them both.
So, ya had better hold on to your Bombers for dear life, and not let them go, it was bad enough, losing the Jets, but, BUT, almost losing Bombers, that would be a major NO NO.
However, the CFL without Bombers, that would be unheard of, ya be surprised, the impact, that Bombers have had in the CFL, and when there was no team in the West that could win the Grey Cup, as hard as the Riders tried, it was the Winnipeg Peg, in 1935, that won and brought the first Grey Cup to the West. The following year, 1936, the Winnipeg Pegs, were renamed the Bombers.
Ya, ya got a great team, that has made it's presence known in the whole CFL, ya had better hold on tight to them, and DO NOT, gamble with them. Because, Bombers are Winnipeg's, and Manitoba's baby, that has been around for many years, and let's hope for many more years to come.
Berry, and Bombers, had better start winning games. NOW, not tomorrow, or the next game, or the game after that, but instead NOW, otherwise, sufferer the possible consequences, of NOT, making the playoffs, by losing too many games, and then find themselves in a DOG FIGHT, getting towards the playoffs, near the end of the season, of being forced to have to win, to make up for what they had lost earlier in the year.
Don't make the same mistake as the Lions did, so many years ago, for crying out loud, of pulling that kind of tactic, of finding themselves in the situation, that they had to win games mutiple near the end of the season, just so they cold make the playoffs.
Canucks have done the same thing, and it happened this year, and they never made the playoffs.
Lat minute game winning rushes do not cut it, and te team that does it, and makes it, they are very, VERY fortunate to be able to.
Teams in the NFL do it, sometimes it works, and sometimes, it doesn't.
DO NOT, put Bombers in that same situation, for crying out loud.
And you don't think I don't follow Bombers, then ya better guess again.
Ya know where the Peg's or Bombers were playing, before the House Of Jack was built. which is that building on Maroons.
Over on Osbourne Street. Ya, tats right, over on Osbourne Street, near the Bay, downtown. Jim Taylor, wrote for the then, Winnipeg Tribune, and Mr. Call For A Labatt's Blue, Cactus Jack Wells, was the voice over at CJOB, for Bombers home games, which it is now Bob Irving is.
Ya, I know a bit of my Bomber history alright. And it was Paul Robson, who brought Cal Murphy to Bombers, now, Paul Robson, is the CEO at Red River Exhibition, out at the Perimiter Highway.
Let's NOW, HOPE, that Bombers start winning, games finih in first place in the east, get the bi, and then win the eastern conference, and win the Grey Cup, in 2008, that they let get by them last year against the Riders in 2007. By Bombers bring that dang elusive Grey Cup home with them, THIS YEAR, in 2008, where it so rightfully belongs.
BUT, the only way to do that, start winning games, NOW, so they can bring that thing HOME with them.
GO BOMBRS, GO, GO get that Grey Cup, NOW, THIS YEAR of 2008. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 7/8/2008 10:09:37 AM | This One is Hot off todays press at the Winnipeg Sun:
Heat's on high
Starting out the CFL season with three straight losses doesn't bode well for long-term success.
However, it doesn't spell the end of a campaign.
Either the Winnipeg Blue Bombers or B.C. Lions will be 0-3 after this weekend -- unless they tie, of course -- so one of the pre-season favourites to compete for the Grey Cup will have an uphill battle heading into Week 4.
But starting out slowly and rebounding to win the championship isn't unheard of, just rare.
The last Cup winner to start this slow was the 2001 Calgary Stampeders, who went 0-3 and then to 1-4 before turning it around, finishing 8-10-0-1 and making a miraculous run to knock off those Blue Bombers.
This doesn't look good for the Bombers, though. Of the 21 times the team has started 0-2, they only made the playoffs four of those years and never advanced to the Cup.
Something to really think about, isn't it now, CORRECT.
History has proven itself, and especially with Bombers, a slow start like that can, and will cost ya, from not making it into the playoffs, let alone to the holy grail itself.
BOTTOM LINE: Berry and the Bombers had better START WINNING NOW, PERIOD, for Bombers to be able to get back to that holy grail land, know as the Grey Cup.
Otherwise, Taman had better then, start looking for a new coach and replacement for Berry, PRETTY DAMN QUICK. | |
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| Bombers Releasing Troy Westwood:
Posted: 7/9/2008 10:07:07 AM | First Dakota, I really like reading your posts....informative and interesting....but please try to shorten them.....my attention span is too short,,,...besides I am the one who likes to ramble....lol.
Interesting [point: This thread had comments early in its life that the two Grey Cup Contenders would be B.C. and the Bombers....I had suggested, the Bombers should not be Overly Expected to win...though they are a good team....
So which two teams have not won this year YET ?? B.C and Winnipeg! And barring a tie which one team will go 0-3 on Friday?
And which team is 2-0 ? SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS!!!! Sorry I had to just drop that in.
The Bombers are marginally on paper a better team than the Lions.....At least i hope they are.....hopefully on the field they are better.....however, I predict a loss for the Bombers( yet i hope I am wrong).....why? Because Wally is a better coach than Berry ! As has been indicated above, I am not a believer in Berry. Don't get me wrong...he is good....but not good enough .....for example if he was more interested in winning than in some personal issue...he would have called Troy back as a Punter....Bombers have a dam good Field Goal kicker...but we need a punter....a Canadian punter at that!!
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO THINK TROY IS NOT A VERY GOOD PUNTER. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 1:49:49 PM | *First Dakota, I really like reading your posts....informative and interesting....but please try to shorten them.....my attention span is too short,,,...besides I am the one who likes to ramble....lol.*
Thank you, tempt your kharma, owever, in your own way, you have also got good valued points on the subject as well, however, I know I get very long winded, but, I like to be thorough as well, however, ok, I will try and cut back on it, and you be the master the rambling on. lol
Say, have ya ver tought of filling in for Milt, while he is temporar;y gone??????
*Interesting [point: This thread had comments early in its life that the two Grey Cup Contenders would be B.C. and the Bombers.*
Yes, it does, and thos two, Lions and Bombers are old time rivalries as well, so, I can see that point, however, that one that I put in above, came directly from one of the sports columnists in the Winnpeg Sun, so, the media even know the importance of it all, why Bombers NEED to start winning NOW.
*So which two teams have not won this year YET ?? B.C and Winnipeg! And barring a tie which one team will go 0-3 on Friday?*
Correct, and that is why, it is sooooooooooo, important that EVERYONE, from Winnipeg, and al over Manitoba, make a date, and plan on getting into Winnipeg, at the House Of Jack on Maroons Road, to support and cheer Bombers on to WIN, that essential game, on Friday night against the Lions. Winning that game, will make a HUGE difference, of how they can play and a boost that they need, to go 1 and 2, instead og 0 and 3.
*And which team is 2-0 ? SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS!!!! Sorry I had to just drop that in.*
Ya, the Riders are 2 and 0, and it was good that you threw that in, because, it acts as a reminder, that Bombers NEED the home support, to help guide them. Further more, the Rider Fand are DIEHARD Rider Fans, and maybe some Bomber Fans could adopt that concept fr Bombers.
*The Bombers are marginally on paper a better team than the Lions.....At least i hope they are.....hopefully on the field they are better.*
Yes, I hear ya, I really do, however, this up coming game against the Lions IS a MUST WIN, for both, however, since it is in Winnipeg, Bombers have got an advange over the Lions, it is YOU, the Bomber Fans in Winnipeg, and Manitoba.
*However, I predict a loss for the Bombers( yet i hope I am wrong).*
Let me put it this way, then, by getting out t Canad Inns Stadium, (House Of Jack), and filling that stadium with hollering, screaming, cheering Bomber Fans, will help the Bombers, to WIN, and make it hard, reallly hard on the Lions to try and win.
*Why? Because Wally is a better coach than Berry !*
I am starting to think so now, that is one of the reasons, that I kee hollering to bring in Brian Dobi. Dobi IS, a players kind of coach, and a very successful one as well, and that is why, I still think that Dobi's program, can also work for Bombers at the pro league. Buano, is not exactly a dummy either, he has done pretty good, and was quite successful for the Stamps, when he was in Calgary.
*I am not a believer in Berry. Don't get me wrong...he is good....but not good enough .....for example if he was more interested in winning than in some personal issue...he would have called Troy back as a Punter.*
Ya got it, a coach cannot get involved in ANY, personal issues, whith his players, which, essentially, Berry did, even tho Berry is good, ya just don't get personally involved on a personal level with your players and that is why, Troy was not given a chance in the regular season games. Berry, IS NOT, a players type of coach, and if he was, he would of at least had the B A L L S tp keep Troy for while, and further more what IS LOST, here, IS ALL that experience that Troy has got, now, that is something NO MONEY can ever buy.
Berry does not, have the people, or soft skills, that are also so very essential, in even football, and that is where Brian Dobi sings, because, he treats ALL of his players, EQUALLY, and that is another reason why Dobi is a big success, with his players, because of his people, or soft skills.
*Bombers have a dam good Field Goal kicker...but we need a punter....a Canadian punter at that!! *
I totally agree.
*THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO THINK TROY IS NOT A VERY GOOD PUNTER.*
Tehn, bring back Troy, and birng in Brian Dobi, and let's see what happens, if that tens Bombers around, and gets them back to the holy grail and WINS it, then, the efort was well worth it.
Anyhow, I think I had enough to say on it, so, the master of rambling, tempt your kharma, take it away, it is ALL yours, to make your pointers, ok, "BRO." | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 9:02:33 PM | One thing is for absolute sure !
There is no better tandem of mascot characters anywhere better than Buzz and Boomer !
Walk tall Bomber fans !!! Be Proud!
And get your tickets even if they are in the upper nose bleed sections!! I have a feein DakoTa would give one of eye teeth to be there on Friday!!!
By the way...me .... the Rider fan.....will be leaving the Folk Fest early , inorder to be at that game .....how about you??? | |
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Posted: 7/10/2008 2:16:44 AM | *There is no better tandem of mascot characters anywhere better than Buzz and Boomer !*
Buzz and Boomer, what a great pair of Bomber masots, they really know hw to entertain, those two guys.
*And get your tickets even if they are in the upper nose bleed sections!!*
Oh, ya, get em while they are hot, and avaialable, because, this is going to be a RIP, snortin football game.
*I have a feein DakoTa would give one of eye teeth to be there on Friday!!! *
I'd LOVE to be there, however, 1500 miles is a little too far to go, but, rest assuredm I will be watching that game with a buddy of mine.
*By the way...me .... the Rider fan.....will be leaving the Folk Fest early , inorder to be at that game .....how about you???*
RIGHT ON, tempt your kharma, make sure that you ALL bring your friends and family, because there is going to be on heck of a noise coming from out of Canad Inns Stadium, it will be sooooooooooooooooooooooo, loud that the Lions won't beable to hear themselves think, let alone ANYTHING else.
GO BOMBERS GO, beat the living CRAP out of, the Lions, and BOOT some Lions
A S S, and let's go, 1 and 2, instead of 0 and 3.
GO GET EM, BOMBERS, yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, GO GET EM, BABY.
Here We Go Again Bombers, Here We Go.
Ahhh, MAN, ya got to LOVE that. | |
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Posted: 7/10/2008 3:15:58 PM | Ok people you know The Dak Truck's heart in the right place but his Ridelin is obviously running a little low....please check the dating on your pils!! LOL.
Just ribbing you a little....but hey lets gO! Go ! Go !...EEEhaWWW!!!
Boom ! Boom !
Boom ! Boom !
Go Bombers! Go! | |
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Posted: 7/10/2008 3:39:54 PM | I just see the Bombers splitting the games with BC and hitting 500 at about their 6th game.
And, honestly, I think Berry is a good coach, just not the 14-4 or 16-2 type, more like always just above the 50-50 mark for wins and losses. 10-8, 11-7 sort of thing...
And although I do think it was totally wrong to get rid of Westwood - for at least the punting - at least the kid they have in there smothers the dropped snaps now, rather than trying to get it away when it is way to late to try and lose HUGE yards each time he does that. He will learn... if Berry doesn't sour on him too.
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Posted: 7/10/2008 5:58:51 PM | Just ribbing you a little....but hey lets gO! Go ! Go !...EEEhaWWW!!!
Boom ! Boom !
Boom ! Boom !
Go Bombers! Go!
Hey TEMPT YOUR KHARMA, ya tell them bro, got to stir up the old pot, and get people MOTI-VATED.
*And although I do think it was totally wrong to get rid of Westwood .*
Yes, it was, definately, but, Berry now has to live with it.
*At least the kid they have in there smothers the dropped snaps now, rather than trying to get it away when it is way to late to try and lose HUGE yards each time he does that.
Well, hope that this new kid works out then.
*He will learn... if Berry doesn't sour on him too.*
Well that is the thing, he will learn, as long as Berry does not go SOUR grapes on the kid, he will be fine. | |
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Posted: 7/10/2008 11:51:09 PM | OK, the countdown is on, time to get them tickets, for Bombers home game on this Friday night, at Canad Inns Stadium, aganst the BC Lions. Time to get out there, and support the living snot out of Bombers, and help to send them to 1 and 2, instead of 0 and 3.
Here We Go Again Bombers, Here We Go.
Make her 1 and 2, instead of 0 and 3. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 6:11:52 AM | | 0 and 2.....nuff said..... | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 7:15:03 PM | .
Stick a fork in 'em... ...they're DONE!!
................42-8..end of the 3rd Quarter | |
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Posted: 7/11/2008 10:57:53 PM | I know it was not great, but, I WILL at least, give Berry credit for having the B A L L S, and BRAINS to pull Glenn out, when Glenn was having trouble and to put Dinwiddie in. At least Ryan did a heck of a great job, in saving face, for Bombers. and saving Berry's A S S, even tho Bombers did not win.
Also, it would not surprise me, to see Dinwiddie as the starter next week, again against the Lions,and if Berry knows what is right, then Berry HAD BETTER realize that starting Dinwiddie IS, and WILL be the right choice.
I like both Glenn, and Dinwiddie, but, when your starter QB is struggling, ya pull him, for your backup, because, that is what the backup is there for.
And that is what Dave Ritchie could not understand, and that is why, Ritchie is gone. | |
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