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Posted: 7/2/2008 6:43:25 PM |
Most men would consider women in that age range to be used goods.
From experience, i would say this comment is most often made by bitter, angry men. Nothing more than a shaming tactic. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/2/2008 7:08:32 PM |
Men having closer friendships than women is totally false based on what I have seen in my life and here...most of the men I know have friends they met at work, but don't ever see friends from growing up very often. Most women I know have friends from their grammar school days unless they've moved out of their birth area, and even then they keep in touch with phone, e-mail, IM.
1. Just because you met someone at work doesn't mean the friendship is any weaker.
2. Most women I know refuse to talk to their closest friends from hs or grammar school. I ask why? Most of them say she stole my bf or she stole my prom dress. Don't kid yourself.
3. Many women I know say they only have male friends because women are generally backstabbers and weak friends. You can find this so easily online if you search for it. I have never once hear a dude say they only have female friends because men make weak friends.
Took 2 mins to find
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AuJ7u5Es9ihi0hrKikBXN5wjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20070910173106AAJKENa
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApQw3JcRmz90Z1vpsdRSJY4jzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20060804165038AA1vgYT
http://www.answerology.com/index.aspx/question/1477430_Do-women-make-bad-friends.html
If you think women have closer relationships you are quite mistaken. Women are by far the worst friends. The sad part is women are the ones admitting it. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2008 8:02:18 PM | Seems I hit a nerve. Hey listen, I meant no offense to anyone. This is not personal. But the simple fact is that we must address the issue that people aren't staying together. People are single like never before, via divorce or simple marriage abstinence. In 20 years from now there is going to be this huge population of single people over 60 that the world has never known. This is where we have ended up after 50 years of feminism quite frankly.
But the truth is that a man can easily pull in someone to be in a relationship with him well into old age, but this becomes very very difficult for woman as she ages. This is reality. Any woman who ignores this fact is in denial and puts her own future self happiness at serious risk.
Some people may respond that they have their girl friends and that is all they need. Well, all I can say is I hope that works out for you. I personally do not think for a minute that women are more happy alone. I don't think men are either. But I do think that men have a capacity to get inside their own head and deal with being alone if they want to, more easily than a woman. But the irony is that older man don't have to be alone, they can still grab a relatively young babe anytime they are ready to settle down and live happily ever after. Its not fair, but it is what it is.
and seriously, John.Duke is right about the fact that women make poor committed friends to each other. Men have much stronger male bonds in general. However, women do make new friends easier then men do, so perhaps those 60+ single ladies will make some new friends at their Florida retirement spa. Personally I think that's a sad way to live out the end of your life though. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/2/2008 8:54:55 PM |
But the truth is that a man can easily pull in someone to be in a relationship with him well into old age, but this becomes very very difficult for woman as she ages. This is reality. Any woman who ignores this fact is in denial and puts her own future self happiness at serious risk.
I'm not being smart here..how do you know this? I don't personally know too many "older" men who have young women as wives or girlfriends..happens once in awhile..and if it is true why are there so many older men on singles sites ( all the ones I have been too), and why do the men outnumber the women on most of them? Why are they still searching ( and approaching me..old woman that I am...lol) if they can get some young girl? Some men maybe..most..no way.
Some people may respond that they have their girl friends and that is all they need. Well, all I can say is I hope that works out for you. I personally do not think for a minute that women are more happy alone. I don't think men are either. But I do think that men have a capacity to get inside their own head and deal with being alone if they want to, more easily than a woman. But the irony is that older man don't have to be alone, they can still grab a relatively young babe anytime they are ready to settle down and live happily ever after. Its not fair, but it is what it is.
I'm sorry borntoski...I think you are wrong on both accounts. I have been "alone" for 13 years..I am not unhappy..I might like it better if I found a cool guy to share my life with, but , I'm ok with it not happening..most single women I know in my age group actually don't even want to get married again..ever. They see few benefits...and they would have to feel that they would get the benefits they find important. And even then...but, I have talked to and seen on the forums tons of guys who don't want to be alone anymore. They go so far as to search out of the country to find someone. I think, and I don't have any articles at my fingertips that talk about this, or the fact that marriage is often a better deal for men than women these days, that generally, men find it harder to be alone.
As to female friends...the female gender as a whole may not always be good friends...but, the close female friends I have,( who I chose) and the ones I have made on here ( very cool women) are very good friends...emotionally and intellectually..they are a terrific support group..and they always "get" me...unlike most men...lol..
At any rate..is there any value to arguing about who can handle being alone , or who has more or better friends ( incidentally something else there is a lot of literature on, including why men handle hurt more deeply)..does everything have to be a competition for us..when can we just start appreciating the differences and learn to love each other anyways? | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/2/2008 8:55:52 PM |
Seems I hit a nerve. Hey listen, I meant no offense to anyone. This is not personal. But the simple fact is that we must address the issue that people aren't staying together. People are single like never before, via divorce or simple marriage abstinence. In 20 years from now there is going to be this huge population of single people over 60 that the world has never known. This is where we have ended up after 50 years of feminism quite frankly.
LOL...I know it's not personal, I didn't take offense, I was seriously curious as to what was said...and being that I have seen otherwise, I wanted to comment. 50 years ago, most of the adult population was married...not cause it was the right thing to do, but because it was how the times were then - so things have changed. We dealt with that, we'll deal with this.
But the truth is that a man can easily pull in someone to be in a relationship with him well into old age, but this becomes very very difficult for woman as she ages. This is reality. Any woman who ignores this fact is in denial and puts her own future self happiness at serious risk.
I guess what gets me about this statement is that women would be lost without a relationship at any given time, and that our happiness would come from dating someone, rather than from ourselves. If we're fine either way, then why would we care later on in life that a relationship wasn't present? If the premise is that if what we want isn't happening, then we just focus on other things and go on about our business, then why would it be an issue?
Some people may respond that they have their girl friends and that is all they need. Well, all I can say is I hope that works out for you. I personally do not think for a minute that women are more happy alone. I don't think men are either. But I do think that men have a capacity to get inside their own head and deal with being alone if they want to, more easily than a woman. But the irony is that older man don't have to be alone, they can still grab a relatively young babe anytime they are ready to settle down and live happily ever after. Its not fair, but it is what it is.
Of course you don't think for a minute women are happy alone - you really have to think that way. It'd be upsetting for you to think anything else - obviously. Truth is, a lot of people are better off single, just as a lot of people can't stand to be alone. All of us, male and female, have friends, family, activities, work, whatever...we can enjoy those things and get on with life and be open to someone IF they come along, or we can put everything we love aside and make it life's work to pair off with someone in order to feel accepted. It's a choice and it's based on personalities. Truth is not all women think settling down to happily ever after is such a great idea, and a lot of women won't do this with just any guy...if they are into it at all.
and seriously, John.Duke is right about the fact that women make poor committed friends to each other. Men have much stronger male bonds in general. However, women do make new friends easier then men do, so perhaps those 60+ single ladies will make some new friends at their Florida retirement spa. Personally I think that's a sad way to live out the end of your life though.
I don't understand why it's sad to you for someone to enjoy your life at any age, however they choose to do so. If you feel you need to be with someone in order to be happy, that's your choice - but realize others may not feel the way you do about it. Truth is, half of those ladies will end up single at 60 even if they do find a man - men don't live that long....so honestly, we have to be prepared either way. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/2/2008 9:06:31 PM | Truth is, half of those ladies will end up single at 60 even if they do find a man - men don't live that long....so honestly, we have to be prepared either way.
Men live to 75. Women live to 80. 5 years is not a lot. Plus the male average is brought down by men who die young due to war and work related accidents. Male life expectancy is increasing at much faster rate now that women are working and dealing with REAL stress.
Btw asian males outlive black females, white females, and hispanic females and this with is the smoking and emotional coldness asian men are known for. Imagine how long they could live without it.
So basically i can expect to outlive pretty much every woman on this website. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/2/2008 9:19:41 PM | I'm too damn lazy to read the 5 or so pages between Kats post and mine so *raspberry* if I've missed something.
Ha! So this is HK's friend OPENLY ADMITTING that she thinks that men who don't buy drinks are cheap, yet HK said she didn't mind ... really? Obviously her friend has more sense and could see them for what they were - apart from being POF'ers. Wow...this translation was completely bent around! LOL A) My friends and I debate issues as well...we do not all think identically. She posted earlier too...which actually resulted in a conversation about the topic. Actually, out of all of my friends, I am probably the one who feels strongest about equality in expenses of dating. B) Shell considered them "cheap" because they would not ante up for a round, AFTER two rounds had already been bought for them. Had they simply just not offered nor acceptd multiple rounds, she would have not (nor I) considered them cheap. C) Not that it matters, this group were not POFers...they were in a 2nd bar we went to after the POF party.
They were CHEAP because TWO rounds were bought for them (as already stated) and there were FOUR of them and only TWO of us (also already stated). To pick up our drinks they had to spend HALF of what was spent on THEM and at $6 a shot you do the math.
I never expect anyone to buy me anything, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let a group of ANYONE mooch of my friends and I. You buy me a drink I'm buying you one next round. As far as I'm concerned it's the way things should be.
Sheesh, some people either need to learn to read or should work on their comprehension skills. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/2/2008 9:28:06 PM |
Men live to 75. Women live to 80. 5 years is not a lot. Plus the male average is brought down by men who die young due to war and work related accidents. Male life expectancy is increasing at much faster rate now that women are working and dealing with REAL stress.
This is actually already a confirmed statistic. Women are now starting to die younger on average and for exactly that reason...increased stress. But I imagine one good war and the average life expectancy of men will drop. People often don't understand that average life expectancy stats take into account people that die young, such as soldiers. That is not to say that old men won't live as long or longer than their wife if they both make it that far without a heart attack or stress induced illness.
To the ladies in denial, I'm not even going to try to prove anything to you, its not that important to me whether you accept what I'm saying or not, but all I can say is, I hope it works out for you. Only time will tell. I can say that for my own self, as a man, I have no intention of spending the second half of my life alone. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2008 9:42:19 PM |
I can say that for my own self, as a man, I have no intention of spending the second half of my life alone.
What am I in denial about? That I can't make it if it turns out I don't meet someone who wants to be with me and me them? Who says I intend to spend it alone?..Just said if it doesn't happen I can deal with it. I would really like not to, in my case..but, I only have so much control over that...can't wish it into being.... | |
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Posted: 7/3/2008 3:20:35 AM | To the guys that say women are past their use by date after a certain age.. yeah that can be true. My friends husband left her for a 21 year old female a few weeks ago. I date 21 year old guys, and they dont seem to think im past my use by date so ill just go with the flow. We will always get old, we are all gonna get wrinkly and go saggy and all that so your tellin us nothing new here.
I do feel that this thread is pretty much becoming a woman hating thread by about three indiviuals now. namely john duke, ski man and skajj. May be woman hater is a strong word,,, maybe "princessa hater?" but either way your bitterness is starting to show, your even now on the topic that us women are gonna die before you now, wow... its getting pretty low on here. Wish death on us so soon?? have a lovely happy life. x | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/3/2008 4:20:10 AM |
I do feel that this thread is pretty much becoming a woman hating thread by about three indiviuals now. namely john duke, ski man and skajj. May be woman hater is a strong word,,, maybe "princessa hater?" but either way your bitterness is starting to show, your even now on the topic that us women are gonna die before you now, wow... its getting pretty low on here. Wish death on us so soon?? have a lovely happy life. x
I am actually insulted by that. How am I a woman or 'princess' hater? Just 'cause I don't agree with your views about something doesn't mean I hate you as a person or women in general. I like debate and discourse, and coming into a thread and attacking people who challenge your ideas is childish at best. I'm guessing you've never really met somene who hated you before.
your even now on the topic that us women are gonna die before you now, wow... its getting pretty low on here. Wish death on us so soon??
You need to read and comprehend what he wrote. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/3/2008 4:48:47 AM | | Well john duke at least we know where we stand. I hate No one, I'm not that bitter. At least we are getting close to the truth now. To you its not just about the drinks. Its about the bitterness and hatred you have towards people that expect to be treated in a certain way. Thanks for your openness and honesty. Hatred is such an ugly trait tho dontcha think? x | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/3/2008 6:17:23 AM |
I am a princess hater. Most women are too. No one likes a brat.
I'm with sienna on this one...I don't like the behavior..I don't HATE the person...in fact, I can't even think of anyone I hate...
Skaj; something you may already know ..generally ( not all of course) women process words different than men..if there is one thing I've learned on here..a lot of what men see as just expressing an opinion,...I read as hurtful or insulting..has caused me a raft of misunderstandings..and I try now to assume they don't mean to sound as angry or hurtful as they do to my ears..but, it's hard to change the filtering system I operate on... | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/3/2008 6:26:21 AM | | 1045 posts and 42 pages re drinks, how many rounds of "thinks" does this make and who is paying for all those "rounds" of "thinks"? Should we all go Dutch? lol lol | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/3/2008 6:31:44 AM | Men live to 75. Women live to 80. 5 years is not a lot. Plus the male average is brought down by men who die young due to war and work related accidents. Male life expectancy is increasing at much faster rate now that women are working and dealing with REAL stress.
Men are living longer BECAUSE women are dealing with more stress? I gotta see this reference. Can you please back that statement up with some facts? And can you take the generalization out of it? Thanks much. Now then...
Btw asian males outlive black females, white females, and hispanic females and this with is the smoking and emotional coldness asian men are known for. Imagine how long they could live without it.
So basically i can expect to outlive pretty much every woman on this website.
Good for you - you're the last one alive. You win. What you win, I have no idea...but I am sure you and the trees around you will rejoice about...whatever you're getting at here.
This is actually already a confirmed statistic. Women are now starting to die younger on average and for exactly that reason...increased stress. But I imagine one good war and the average life expectancy of men will drop. People often don't understand that average life expectancy stats take into account people that die young, such as soldiers. That is not to say that old men won't live as long or longer than their wife if they both make it that far without a heart attack or stress induced illness.
That's WAY too much detail - my main point was that women HAVE to prepare to be alone in older years because we pretty much can't predict otherwise. Going out and finding a man just to change this doesn't make anyone's life any easier. People die, they leave...you depend on someone staying forever it's a harsh reality when it doesn't happen. Life does what it will...but that's not your concern now is it? When you go looking for younger women in your old age, remember to bring your wallet.
To the ladies in denial, I'm not even going to try to prove anything to you, its not that important to me whether you accept what I'm saying or not, but all I can say is, I hope it works out for you. Only time will tell. I can say that for my own self, as a man, I have no intention of spending the second half of my life alone.
There's nothing to prove unless you're deliberately looking for an argument - fact is I have seen more women now than ever before shrugging and deciding single life ain't so bad after all - IF THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO JUST PICK SOME RANDOM GUY TO AVOID BEING ALONE (had to put that in caps, to be sure it's read - I don't think people are getting that part of what I'm saying). The fact that men refuse to believe that women are capable of this biologically is...projecting. It has to be. There's no way of knowing that unless you are a woman - and if you're smart, you'll realize it's not gender specific. Some PEOPLE are just more comfortable being alone...and will do so if there's no reason not to be. You don't have to agree or understand that.
If YOU feel you cannot be happy unless you're attached to someone else (as I said before), that's YOUR life and your choice - doesn't make you right or wrong, it makes you, well...you. Allow others their lives and choices; live and let live. Don't try to make out anyone who does things different than you "sad". It doesn't really affect you or your life.
BACK TO THE OT:
Should a woman buy a round? No. Should anyone? No. The word "should" sucks. Try "would", "can", "will" a woman buy a round of drinks. The answer is - sure depending on where she is, who she's with, and if it's expected of her or not. If it's not, chances are she'll be more open to it.
We're all going to die alone; it is how we make the journey that matters. We all decay... people who place a greater sense of their worth as a human being on their body (or on their partners' body) are going to have some adjustments to make. Some will manage it, others won't, but all will face it. Many, many women, even those who had a joyous relationship, will end up essentially alone in a nursing home and the residents will be primarily female. For many, their lives and concerns will shrink to what they are having for lunch. This is the nature of aging in our world right now.
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This quote above is exactly what I was getting at Margo - the visual I had as well is of assisted living centers and nursing homes. The residents are primarily female. You can try to prevent dying alone all you want, but it's not gonna happen - you can't take people with you. Even if you die along side someone, there's no scientific evidence that you'll end up together. For women (based on past history) we'll die alone in more ways than one no matter what we do. So it would behoove us to be realistic about it. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/3/2008 6:43:56 AM | I really didn't think the "women are going to die as wrinklies alone" was going to engender much comment. Go figure. Seemed pretty self-evident to me.
We're all going to die alone; it is how we make the journey that matters. We all decay... people who place a greater sense of their worth as a human being on their body (or on their partners' body) are going to have some adjustments to make. Some will manage it, others won't, but all will face it. Many, many women, even those who had a joyous relationship, will end up essentially alone in a nursing home and the residents will be primarily female. For many, their lives and concerns will shrink to what they are having for lunch. This is the nature of aging in our world right now.
Within a relationship, I'd want to make the journey with someone who is extraordinarily compatible with me. Likely that means a man with similar values, who will allow me the pleasure of giving to him as he also gets a thrill out of giving to me. Whether that's the next round of drinks or something else. That's what floats my boat. Others will differ; may they find the partner who is compatible with them.
Good for you - you're the last one alive. You win. What you win, I have no idea...but I am sure you and the trees around you will rejoice about...whatever you're getting at here.
LOL, so true DJ. I ALSO heard they give out a prize to the person who manages to beat everyone else and gets to the red light first. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/3/2008 9:04:36 AM | Responding to:
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I can say that for my own self, as a man, I have no intention of spending the second half of my life alone.
What am I in denial about? That I can't make it if it turns out I don't meet someone who wants to be with me and me them? Who says I intend to spend it alone?..Just said if it doesn't happen I can deal with it. I would really like not to, in my case..but, I only have so much control over that...can't wish it into being....
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Well, folks, FWIW, I am an old fart who has experienced marriages, love affairs, living together, and various combinations thereof, and now find it cool to say "been there, done that" and enjoy a lot of solitude. There is no way I would want to sacrifice the pleasure of living alone now.
And before anybody jumps on me for cruising a "dating" site let me remind you that PoF specifically provides that it is cool to be here seeking friendship, not "dates" or romance.
Please note that I did NOT say "just" friendship as if friendship is some kind of B grade romantic life or a second rate substitute for passionate love. IMHO friendship is MORE important than passion.
And while I am very romantic I do NOT use romance as a pathway to love; it is a RESULT of love - something to enjoy with a beloved person AFTER you have developed a relationship.
I notice that a lot of women reach old age without ever learning to be individuals. Why is this? I see lots of women over 50 who are widowed and spend the rest of their lives talking about theur dead husbands. This is very sad. They are less fully human beings than they could be, and have not grown into whole personalities, just older in body while mentally still children living in roles according to expectations imposed on them from outside themselves.
Like it or not, you females are likely to live longer than the dudes and the stats DO make it likely that you will NOT be leaning on a male. So why not start thinking about what you want to be when you are old. It is very sad to see so many women whose lives after 50 are just memories, bingo, Jesus, the music of their high school years, and what medications other people are taking.
There are old men who have nothing to talk about but their military service and wars, but they are fewer. Most old men do seem better able than old women are to have something going on. I have a neighbor who is a man of 75 dying of cancer yet he is charming and pleasant to be around and has an interesting history of life as an airline pilot and he still rides his motorcycle. It is sad that so few women reach old age with anything like that lifestyle.
To get back on topic, why does this header question even need to be asked? Does any woman really think that there is some law that says human beings who have estrogen instead of testosterone are banned from treating all other people as their equal? What's wrong with just being graceful in giving and accepting drinks from others regardless of gender? | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/3/2008 10:30:51 AM | reading you bragging about his submissiveness online
JD - you are as predictable as milk curdling in sunshine ... you always get it wrong! Turn that statement on its head and then you will be about right. And before you ask - yes - it is none of your business. I expect if he took a few hours to read my comments that my bf would be amused and pleased that I am standing up for myself!
what is your contribution to the relationship
Any alpha male worth his salt would not want to spend any time with someone who doesn't contribute - again what I contribute is nobody's business except ours. I expect had I offered to buy him a drink last night he would have laughed and said 'Why?'. I obviously make him happy, he obviously makes me happy (don't annoy me by saying something sleazy to that comment - it shows you have a creepy mind) That is personal and private between one man and one woman and I am not about to dissect it all so that you can put it under your warped microscrope - understand???
I would like to ask you something:-
Why don't you have a photo on display on your profile - are YOU ashamed of something? Or are you too embarrassed to put a face to those awful comments you like to make? Do you lack courage to come out and face us?
Your bitterness obviously spreads beyond the subject of 'Should a woman buy a round of drinks?' You don't like to see anyone happy it seems! | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/3/2008 11:43:42 AM | Wow! 42 pages and going strong, whodathunk! I read this today which I thought was very apposite so thought I'd share with my fellow fishers and 'ettes'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/2008/07/03/ftcash103.xml
Some hightlights:
"These guys get you to choose the restaurant. You can't go top-end because it seems so brash, so you end up picking mid-range. I'm not asking to be treated like a princess, but you do hope he's going to buy the drinks the first time you meet."
Gotta love that ..."I'm not asking to be treated like a princess, but..." (er actually I am)
Relationship experts are horrified at Foster's calculations, urging the Cashtrati to see the crunch as a boon. "The natural exchange between men and women - gifts, dinners and money for sex - is part of the biological process," explains Peta Heskell
Just who the fvck are these 'realtionship experts' and who the fvck made them experts?! Peta seems to have deconstructed it nicely though - ...gifts, dinners and money for sex..., I guess that's what it boils down to.
Sally Taylor isn't hugely hopeful, however. "I think men are men and they basically want one thing," she grumbles. "It's just that this year they want it at a discount."
...so, for some women at least, it really is all about up front payment for reciprocation in kind? | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/3/2008 11:48:10 AM |
I do feel that this thread is pretty much becoming a woman hating thread by about three indiviuals now. namely john duke, ski man and skajj. May be woman hater is a strong word,,, maybe "princessa hater?" but either way your bitterness is starting to show, your even now on the topic that us women are gonna die before you now, wow... its getting pretty low on here. Wish death on us so soon?? have a lovely happy life. x
Sorry Sienna, you are way out of line here. I don't hate women, don't harbor resentments, nothing of the sort. I only point out the realities I see. Pointing at me and accusing me of being something is not cool. You don't know me. I have not accused anyone in particular of being a PES. Have I? Pointing fingers and calling names is exactly what people do as a last resort when they don't have a leg to stand on their arguments. for whatever that is worth.
On other threads I have given out advice, to women, that has been met very warmly. I have received a number of very nice replies from women that appreciated my views and and wanted to thank me. Clearly I am not a woman hater, though I also clearly do not agree with Sienna99's approach to dating right now.
Men are living longer BECAUSE women are dealing with more stress? I gotta see this reference. Can you please back that statement up with some facts? And can you take the generalization out of it? Thanks much. Now then...
Its not that men are living longer. Its that women are starting to die YOUNGER. Things are evening out. Actually both men and women have the potential to live longer than ever now due to improvements in technology, but statistically, women are starting to die younger and fall back to similar life expectancies as men. They are saying this is partly due to the increased stress that women have taken into their lives with full time careers. Also the average life expectancy statistic of men is moving up quickly due to the fact that we haven't had a world war in a while.
My view is that if men and women are both under the same stresses and no wars, then our life expectancy will be about the same. For many years, men were dying younger on average. True equality is changing that.
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Posted: 7/3/2008 12:03:44 PM | Whats wrong with treating a woman like a princess if she deserves to be?
Who has heard the sayings" I treat him like a king" "he treats me like a queen"
What the hell is wrong with being treated like a queen, king or princess ? its what we all deserve in a relationship whether male or female?
I am a princess, My man will be treated like a King by me! Life can be that simple!  | |
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A shot on me, love! :o)
