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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 10:42:35 AM | Men are suppose to treat woman.
No one is SUPPOSED to do anything.
Men and women treat each other.
The only woman a man should be treating is his daughter.
John u got me to thinking I always accuse my on again off again boyfriend of doing nothing because he asks me to do the check book clean cook do laundry but he does mow the lawn shovel the snow work on the cars and make more money than I do..wow I never thought about it like that maybe I will give him sex tonight.
You're still a free loader. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 11:29:38 AM |
I drink 3 drinks tops at bars here that is at best 30 bucks. $10 a drink... so what does a guy get for $30 at the end of the night??
If a guy doenst think enough of me to buy me 30 dollars worth of drinks I think thats kinda rude. LOL... Okay, so he shucks out $30 for drinks for you... do you come with your own bag of flour?
Men are suppose to treat woman. And women expect this.... WHY?? Where in the world do you get off thinking men are "supposed" to treat?? What the hell did you do, or have you done, to deserve being treated???
Ive always been treated very well by men. LOL... Have you now...
I do ofer to pay after awhile and Im not a free loader in the least I just believe if a man asks u out or buys u a few drinks at a bar it doesnt mean u have to return the favor.
You have got to be kidding... So then what is it you plan on doing in appreciation for that hard earned $30 that just got shelled out for you??
I never thought about it like that maybe I will give him sex tonight.
And the REALITY comes full circle....
Its a business relationship. He buys you $30 worth of drinks... you give him sex. Got it! | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 11:41:45 AM |
If a guy doenst think enough of me to buy me 30 dollars worth of drinks I think thats kinda rude.
It's not rude. Rude would be you two opening a tab and the guy leaving you to pay for it at the end of the night. Or just straight up saying that you're not worth the expenditure.
I do ofer to pay after awhile and Im not a free loader in the least I just believe if a man asks u out or buys u a few drinks at a bar it doesnt mean u have to return the favor.
Why don't you have to return the favor? | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 11:47:35 AM | This thread is a riot. It's reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend - oh maybe 25 years ago. We were going out and she wasn't taking any money with the expectation that men would buy her drinks all night long. Which they did, that was normal. My issue with her back then was her attitude that she would accept a drink offered to her by any man - even one she wasn't remotely interested in speaking with to see if he interested her.
Her position: he's offering, I'm accepting - it's his lookout if he wants to be so foolish to offer a random girl a drink.
My position: If we both know the offer of a drink is an opening to get to know you, accepting the drink is accepting a conversation with him. If you have no intention of doing that, it's about the same as stealing. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 12:08:04 PM |
And the REALITY comes full circle....
Its a business relationship. He buys you $30 worth of drinks... you give him sex. Got it! I'm Not so sure I Got it. I used to drive a cab around picked up a stripper at the strip club drove her to her Apartment. She offered to give me sex in exchange for the Cab fare. Told her No Way Sex does not pay for my Electric Bill. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 12:14:14 PM | yes women should buy a round of drinks .... their about 200o years behind by my calculation ,,,, i like like rye n ginger ,,,,,, just have the hot waitress with the junk in the trunk bring it over ! | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 12:17:13 PM |
So, if a man doesnt reach for the bill first, somehow that gives you the right to pass judgement as "cheap".... WTF??? .
Wow Smuggler, no need to get so harsh. If I am INVITED on a FIRST date by someone, are you implying that I should reach for the bill first to pay it? | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 12:22:06 PM | | ^^^ NO but you should offer to pay for something. Maybe not the dinner and drinks. Be it the tip, dessert after, coffee something. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 12:34:47 PM | And I always do, John Duke, as I had stated in my original message. All I was referring to was WHO reaches for the check when I am INVITED on a FIRST date.
When on a first date, and a man doesn't reach for the check first , the impression I get is that he is plain "cheap". I always offer to split the bill, though...for some men this is unheard of, for others this is the norm. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 12:44:26 PM |
Wow Smuggler, no need to get so harsh. If I am INVITED on a FIRST date by someone, are you implying that I should reach for the bill first to pay it
Nope... Never said that... What I have a problem with, as with most of the men, is the attitude that, as you so eloquently put it...
the impression I get is that he is plain "cheap".
Im not being harsh in any way. But apparently, that opens the door for any man to think you're a Gold digger. Its a matter of bringing something to the table... You dont even say anything about offering to pay... you just get the impression he's "cheap" Oh.. and then "offer to split the bill"
The 'entitlement' attitude is what the issue is.. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 12:44:45 PM | Posted By: john.duke12 on 7/4/2008 10 35 AM
Subject: Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Message:
Men are suppose to treat woman.
JohnDuke responds, and he is so right:
No one is SUPPOSED to do anything.
Men and women treat each other.
The only woman a man should be treating is his daughter.
John u got me to thinking I always accuse my on again off again boyfriend of doing nothing because he asks me to do the check book clean cook do laundry but he does mow the lawn shovel the snow work on the cars and make more money than I do..wow I never thought about it like that maybe I will give him sex tonight.
You're still a free loader.
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I can't believe that babe. She talks of "giving him sex" as if it's a favor she us so graciously granting him like the Queen giving a man a knighthood. Screw that. If any woman ever "gave" me sex rather than choosing to have sex because we both desire it - then I will be outathere so fast the door will break.
No way will I participate in sex with any woman who thinks of sex as something she "gives" rather than something we both want and enjoy. I don't need to be patronized or treated like a whining needy child who needs to get his rocks off. She won't get me in her bed unless she WANTS it, not GRANTS it. Sex that is granted rather than being desired by the woman is what prostitutes provide.
If she is into "giving him sex" I suppose she follows the instructions of that famous manual for wives from the Victorian era that advises women to "endure" her sexual "duties" by just lying back passively and spread their legs, close their eyes and think of England.
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 1:39:01 PM |
That last paragraph is all great... sounds like a dream girl... But we have to get past the first date! Very much like women, who say they can size a man up in 30 seconds or less... Men are starting to do the same thing. I suppose that first date tells a significant amount about the person you are with. If she is willing to either split the cost, help out, offer to buy a round or two... or what have you... from my perspective, it says that she is willing to be a participant in a relationship. Someone who is as willing to give as they are receive, and all too often today, there are so many women who have that "Im a Princess" mentality, they want to be on the receiving end... and not so much on the giving ...
This is really the crux of the matter here. This is EXACTLY why a lot of guys are asking for the girl to pick up a round or their share of the meal. ITS A TEST LADIES. Don't you get that? Some of you are failing miserably. I am doing well financially, believe me, its easy as pie to pay for dates if that is what I want to do. And actually, sometimes I am dying to do so. But I specifically want to know what the girl is going to do if I don't. If she acts like PES, then she's over and out. Its that simple.
The simple fact is that during this time of transition from old school to feminism during the past maybe 20 years, a generation of women have grown up with the best of both worlds...being treated like a princess for doing absolutely nothing but gracing us with their presence and they have come to expect it, like a spoiled child.
(Note - That does not apply to all of you women, many reasonably minded women have responded to this thread and I fully acknowledge that).
The simple fact is that right now dating rituals are slanted to give women the advantage. By cornering the guy from the get go to give more then he receives, it sets the entire relationship up through precedence for a lifetime of the same. However, men are finally starting to wake up to what we have been doing and saying "hey wait a sec". Frankly I think you ladies should respect us more for finally seeing what is going on and putting our foot down about it. For the past 20 years or so men in western society, particularly USA, Canada, Britian, Australia....have been getting walked on like door mats because basically we didn't know how to go about getting laid without continuing to cow tow to women the way men always have; even in the face of their new feminine independence.
Enough is enough and that's about where we are now. Deal with it. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 3:47:02 PM | or the past 20 years or so men in western society, particularly USA, Canada, Britian, Australia....have been getting walked on like door mats because basically we didn't know how to go about getting laid without continuing to cow tow to women the way men always have; even in the face of their new feminine independence.
The men in Northern Europe seem to have no problem getting girls to go dutch and get laid.
The simple fact is that right now dating rituals are slanted to give women the advantage. By cornering the guy from the get go to give more then he receives, it sets the entire relationship up through precedence for a lifetime of the same.
Like I said it should be equal right from the start. And by equal I do mean same. (someone should look up equal in the dictionary).
The simple fact is that during this time of transition from old school to feminism during the past maybe 20 years, a generation of women have grown up with the best of both worlds...being treated like a princess for doing absolutely nothing but gracing us with their presence and they have come to expect it, like a spoiled child.
They lost out on a lot my friend. Many will end up alone and bitter. Many never found loving relationships or understand what it feels like to be a giver.
It seems to be the opposite in parts of Europe. In America men are expected to do all the romantic stuff but share the responsibilities. I hear from a lot of my female friends in Germany men get the best of both worlds. Gifts, dates all that is equal but household responsibility falls on the woman. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 4:01:29 PM | | It really shouldn´t matter who pays..I wonder though, why did you expect it from her in the first place? If you buy someone a drink then it´s on your treat, right? Perhaps you should have told her you wanted the same from her before even buying any. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 4:16:39 PM | This entire thread is why I won't ever do anything other than pay for all my own stuff. If I pay for what I use, I'm not obligated to do anything. If I need something done, I do myself or hire it out. I don't want any favors....and reading threads like this confirms that all good deeds aren't just done because someone cares. They're looking for a result at some point...I don't want anyone to do anything for me expecting anything in return. After all, I don't do for others with that expectation.
Personally with the exception of a couple men in my life, I have never enountered an offer that didn't have strings anyway, so no thanks. Hey I once sent a waitress back to reissue a bill so I could pay my half on a date. The three date rule never applied to me, because there's no investment for him to try and recover...so I take my time getting to know him before I ever sleep with him, if I decide to...and really, what can he do?
However if I always cover myself (and I always do) that means there has to be something about him that's better than eating alone, or calling a friend. A cute face, some intelligence, and a nice butt...for instance. I don't want your money, but there'd better be some eye candy to go with my meal. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 5:13:21 PM |
It's good to know that there are so many cry baby whiny men out there. Thanks, now I know who to steer clear of.
Well.... if by cry baby whiney men, you mean those of us who can spot a princess who is about as shallow as a saucer cup, looking for a sugar daddy, not unlike yourself... Hell, sign me up!
No money, No honey.... C ya! | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 5:21:25 PM |
It's good to know that there are so many cry baby whiny men out there. Thanks, now I know who to steer clear of.
Yay for you. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/4/2008 5:32:41 PM |
It's good to know that there are so many cry baby whiny men out there. Thanks, now I know who to steer clear of.
Well, yeah, and from where I'm sittin' it's nice to take note of the women who will likely whine about the a-hole that doesn't pay for everything or treat little Miss Priss like the princess she believes she is.....
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/5/2008 3:44:33 PM |
It's good to know that there are so many cry baby whiny men out there. Thanks, now I know who to steer clear of.
Exhibit A. That is what is commonly reffered to as "Shaming language" and its exactly what women have been doing for thouands of years to get men to do things for them. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/5/2008 4:01:10 PM | | Yes bornttoski. She was supposed to follow it up with an attack on their manhood. Smart men never fall for shaming language or any tricks. | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/5/2008 4:29:50 PM | You know guys.....you all complain about women like metalvixen, but you all are real quick to keep the debate going with her.....
Often, and not all men on the forums, I've found that some women will post something logical or even ask intelligent questions to keep the debate going, but the men will ignore her in favour of going after the woman who has outdated or inane beliefs (at least to some). It is highly unlikely that she will change her beliefs, however you keep chugging on with it.
So you keep arguing with the woman who you say you would never date or you praise the ones who agree with everything you say - but ignore others who actually try to keep a debate going with comments and questions.
So....I'm wondering if, in reality, that old love/hate idea applies? And some of these women are quite attractive. Do you feel because they are attractive, it is easier for them to "get away" with stuff like that? Are you egging them on because you think they're not intelligent? | |
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| Should a woman buy a round of drinks?
Posted: 7/5/2008 4:39:56 PM |
They lost out on a lot my friend. Many will end up alone and bitter. Many never found loving relationships or understand what it feels like to be a giver.
Unfortunately, it's not just women who will lose out - it's men too. This whole "me me me" 80's after effect has done a number on a lot of us.
Reading some of the posts, it impresses upon me that not only are women alone and bitter, but so are men.
If everyone just took it as usual to pay for themselves, there wouldn't be a problem. If you are in a crowd where everyone is buying rounds, it is expected that you may have a buy a round - depending on how many people are there. The more generous or wanting to impress people usually offer first. | |
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