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| Alternative lifestyles
Posted: 6/18/2008 2:28:32 PM |
Ok fine allow people to make their own decisions and waste their lives away on drugs. But then why are my tax dollars paying for these people to live and get treatments and yet they are still out there stealing to buy more drugs.
Mainly because you thing drugs should be illegal.
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The Department of Justice reported that by Sept. 30, 2006, federal prisons held a total of 176,268 inmates, of whom 93,751 (53%) were drug offenders. By comparison in 2000 federal prisons held 131,739 total inmates of whom 74,276 (56%) were drug offenders, and in 1995 federal prisons held a total of 88,658 inmates of whom 52,782 (60%) were drug offenders.
Source: Sabol, William J., PhD, Couture, Heather, and Harrison, Paige M., Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prisoners in 2006 (Washington, DC: US Department of Justice, December 2007), NCJ219416, p. 26, Appendix Table 13; and Harrison, Paige M. & Allen J. Beck, PhD, US Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prisoners in 2005 (Washington, DC: US Department of Justice, November 2006), p. 10, Table 14.
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In 2006, drug law violators comprised 19.6% of all adults serving time in State prisons - 249,400 out of 1,274,600 State prison inmates.
Source: Sabol, William J., PhD, Couture, Heather, and Harrison, Paige M., Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prisoners in 2006 (Washington, DC: US Department of Justice, December 2007), NCJ219416, p. 24, Appendix Table 9, and p. 25, Appendix Table 10.
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Alcohol is a drug. It's classified as a sedative-hypnotic. It's far more dangerous than pot (and quite a few other drugs.) It's addictive. Alcohol addicts can die from sudden withdrawl. Your tax dollars spent on the effects of alcohol may be found at:
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/economic-2000/
If I had kids, I'd rather they smoke pot or do several drugs other than aldohol for a buzz.
Should they also be able to decide to kill people, why should our government tell them they can't?
I think being willfully ineducable ought to be an offense, but it's a free country (at least for that.) | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 2:37:55 PM |
Very first drug is usually a little weed.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but the very first drug is probably alcohol, excluding narcotics for pain, amphetamines for ADD, etc. Yes, those pain killers and ampetamines are the same ones for which you claim pot is a gateway drug. The pharmacology is not altered by writing a prescription. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 2:50:13 PM | Wow... people are quick to make assumptions
Your young enough to be my granddaughter, and if your were and sitting in front of me I would tell you what the concesus of this forum is.
WEED IS ILLEGAL
YOU HAVE A 6 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER DEPENDANT ON YOU
If you smoke 3 times a week or 3 times a month its still ILLEGAL......It's not about what you think or want it to be ...it's ILLEGAL.................
You can rationalize all you want how the government is wrong and you think the laws should be changed........until they are its ILLEGAL
Laws are put in place for a reason............I think my dog should be able to poop anywhere he wants but if I let him I'll be fined because its ILLEGAL
My grandson would like to drive with his cellphone stuck in his ear because he thinks HE'S a responsible driver but its ILLEGAL......................
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| Alternative lifestyles
Posted: 6/18/2008 2:50:20 PM | Something on this forum triggered this thought :
Say a parent goes to a babysitters house to drop their kid off for the evening. The babysitter says 'Go have fun, I'm going to smoke some weed while you're out.' Would ANY PARENT (even those that partake) actually leave their child there!?!?!?
Guess what *Dustie* - YOU are that babysitter - THREE times a week!! | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 2:57:14 PM | My daughter is NOT going to grow up to be a drug dealer because she has an amazing family (including myself) who won't accept that and will influence/help her become more... anyway, she's already decided to do the astronaut thing. Just because a 6 year old tells you she's decided to be an astronaut, doesn't mean that's she's obviously set in her career, and you can now abandon your responsibilities as a parent.
Don't all 6 year olds want to be astronauts at some point? When I was 6, I wanted to be an astronaut, and then a fireman, and then a cowboy, and then a race car driver and then a hockey player , and then...
Not many 6 year olds say they are going to be a drug-dealer when they grow up.
But quite a few 6 year olds eagerly decide they want to be astronauts.
Interestingly, hundreds more kids eventually end up becoming drug-dealers than astronauts.
And quite a few kids who grew up to become drug-dealers, (or crack-addicts, or hookers, or car thieves, or horse thieves, or corrupt politicians or train trobbers, ....) grew up in homes where the parents thought they were an amazing family.
I wonder how many astronauts grew up in homes where the parent's substance abuse was a priority over parenting responsibilities? | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 3:07:55 PM | Wow, I am feeling pretty good right now about smoking cigarettes (don't even go there...at least they are legal).
OP, I do not care if you never smoke in front of your daughter. What you are doing is wrong.
You will be lucky if someone in your town doesn't see this and report you to Child Services or the police. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 3:21:05 PM | You say you don't hide it from anyone, I haven't read the entire thread but I assume that includes your daughter who will soon be copying your behavior if she isn't already! I grew up in the day when "everyone" smoked pot (except Bill Clinton who didn't inhale) and many, not all, but many, went on to other drugs. My ex went on to the big H and was a waste skin addict most of his wasted life. What you are doing is illegal for many reasons, one of them being that you could have your daughter taken away from you. Is smoking worth that to you, I urge you to consider your daughter's future if you love her as much as you claim.  | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:04:45 PM | I am laughing at ten pages of people trying to tell this pothead why not to smoke pot. She is attention seeking, she asked for opinions ect. but clearly wants to argue her point and convince everyone that she is not wrong. On top of that she is only 24, her profile states all her children are over 18 (can't even count).
OP I believe everyone has a right to stand up for what they believe in. But you seem to think that is by far more important then the welfare of your daughter. And do you NOT realize that smoking pot definitely puts her at risk - in many ways including being taken and put in the foster care system. Why? Because what you are doing, regardless of whether YOU believe it is right or wrong, is AGAINST THE LAW. If you don't like the law get ACTIVE and lobby for new laws. But what you are doing is negligent and selfish if only for the mere fact it's illegal and can cause you to lose your daughter.
Bottom line honey, your being an idiot with your daughter. What you do with your own life is your business, but you have no right to endanger her. I speak from having lost a sister near your age to alcohol and pot.
She believed the same as you, and she was not a bad mom in every other area. But as in your case, she felt she knew better then anyone. She died right before her sons fourth bday. She was slightly stoned and driving home and crashed. Now before you deny you'd ever do this, I don't want to hear it. Smoking pot takes away your judgement period and you can blow smoke all you want, that fact doesn't change. The only blessing was her son was not with her (a miracle) when it happened. He will never know his mother, and I have lost my sister. I loved her more then I can say and the pain doesn't go away. My nephew has slowly forgotten the mother that adored him. I don't think his life today will ever be as good as if he had his mother.
Your young and arrogant and think you have all the answers. I hope it doesn't take losing your daughter, your or her life, jail or whatever to wake up. It's not just you. And you can feed yourself all the bull you want, she IS influenced by what you are doing. And not in the right way.
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:21:43 PM | Think about what would happen if something happened to her while she was with you...would you be capable of knowing what to do and ACTING wisely? It's called "under the influence" for a reason. What if you got arrested? Who's going to care for her?
You just can't fulfill your obligation to her as her caretaker if your judgment is impaired. You can hope nothing like that happens, but you have to consider that it might. Maybe that'll influence how seriously you take your "mothering". | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:21:58 PM | Illegal....
Once upon a time in America it was Illegal for a black person to be in a white person's resturant/restroom ect. Threw standing up for their rights this was changed. Once upon a time it was Illegal for Black's to vote threw standing up this was changed.
It used to be illegal for your consenting wife to give you oral sex and actually is still on the books in some states to this day...hmmmmm
Just b/c something is illegal does not mean it is correct!!!!!!
The longer it is kept Illegal the larger the profits by illegal syndicates that grow/ship/sell it.
Many countries on this planet have made it legal and have a far lower problem with drugs being abused then the USA and Canada.
That being said, the question was some moron told her after she said she did not want to meet him that she was a bad mother b/c she chooses a natural herb for whatever reason she chooses this is her reason.
Yet you have all stated she is a bad parent. Sounds to me by every thing the op has said she is a very caring/loving MOM!!!
And I would like to hear from just one of you who has responded that you have never ever in your life done anything illegal..b/c I call BullShit!!!!!!!
Alcohol was illegal for years and years and look at what that caused with illegal rum running ect. Not to mention the criminal element in the illegal trade of alcohol. The same is happening with Marijuana.
It's a stupid argument. Is the op a bad mother I think not. Is her child going without food or clothing to support her mother's drug habit...not. Is her mother a leach on society by being a druggie on welfare, no.
Dustie, what matters at the end of the day is how you take care of your daughter and I think you teaching her to stand up for what she believes in even if it goes against the grain is very commendable. I hope when she grows her wings and her views do not reflect your own you will remember statues are not built for the status quo. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:39:42 PM | And ya have to love the posts from the tobacco junkies (yes you are drug addicts)....just try going a day without your fix and you are nervous and insane...........
not to mention the fact that you make the rest of us breath your second hand smoke (including your children) and what about the example you set for them?
Just because it is legal makes it alright for you to tell this woman that what she does in private is illegal and that she is a bad mother?
Opinions are like ***holes...I just decided to bare mine....that's illegal too in most places....sue me!  | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:45:57 PM | I'd have to say that youre definitely not the best mother you could be if you are smoking pot.
As others have said:
1. It's illegal. Whether or not it should be doesn't enter into the equation because those who can control your future really won't give a hoot what your stance on things is . If somebody reported you to law enforcement, I don't think that child services would feel too much pity because it "should be" legal..
2. You are setting a bad example for your daughter. "Drugs" of any kind are bad for your health, and here you are showing her that it's ok for her mom to do. Kids don't buy into the "do as I say, not as I do" thing. You're pretty much setting her up to be a user too. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:52:50 PM | all very interesting. may i give an english perspective. perhaps if more americans smoked weed, less americans may get shot. all these people telling you it is illegal have no doubt never speeded in their car for example, an act far more dangerous to themselves and others than smoking a bit of weed. just chill you judgemental retards.
it is a fact that out of my network of friends most of us did smoke weed growing up, it is not a fact that we went on to harder drugs or wasted lives. i myself still smoke it from time to time and have just passed a university degree course (BSC Hons Quantity Surveying) at the age of 41 and am about to train for chartered status in the professional body. it ain't done me no harm. it is not drugs per se that are a problem, rather that certain people cannot control their lives and drugs will excaserbate this flawed character trait, much as in the same way as gambling or alcohol addiction.
listen goodmother, have the courage of your convictions. it does not matter what i or anyone else thinks. all that counts is that you bring up a well balanced, bright, articulate, questioning and empaphising child, qualities some of your correspondants sadly seem to lack.
ps don't get caught. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:53:05 PM |
For me, it's the fact that my own God given, natural, human rights are being infringed upon by complete strangers who I don't even like most of the time :)
Ok, fine, if you want to get pissed about people's God given natural human rights being infringed upon, there are about 10,000 more worthy causes to dedicate yourself to. Good grief.
I suspect that the real truth is that long before now, your own God given, natural, human common sense was infringed upon by complete strangers who you didn't even like most of the time and who told you it was fine to play the rebel game and break the rules and get high. Fine, go ahead and smoke. And 15 years from now you just might still be smoking it daily to dull the gnawing guilt that is eating you alive from the consequences of a poor choice you made long ago. Guilt is a real ****. Don't figure that one out the hard way. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:53:16 PM | first off I took full responsiblilty for what cigarettes do to my body..........
It 's not about what she is doing in private.....It's about what she is doing is ILLEGAL
It's always easy to justify what you think is right by putting someone else down.
I for one never said she was a bad mother......what shis doing is against the law and if she wants to suffer the consequences if she gets caught fine............her child should not have to suffer those consequences..............thats the POINT............. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 5:04:28 PM |
And change doesn't happen when people don't speak up or act out... It'll be legal one day and you can thank me, in part.
Cool! So does that mean I can go out and start castrating child molestors so that some day the government will legalize the practice?
It's illegal. If you want to fight the fight, do it in a legal manner. If you don't want to do it in a legal manner then understand; it doesn't matter what anybody thinks of you as an individual, you will suffer consequences, as will your daughter. Do you want to watch your daughter's graduation ceremony on a 2" x 4" video camera screen through a plexi-glass window hearing the barely discernable audio through a telephone at your visitor's cubicle? You don't know when you'll get caught... what if that day just happens to be the night before that very important event in your daughter's life? What if it's a couple of days before her wedding? Perhaps her first dance recital? Oh, but at least you're doing your part to make sure people will be allowed to smoke a leaf. That's so much more important, isn't it? | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 5:07:55 PM | It's always easy to justify what you think is right by putting someone else down.
Isn't it though???
Not "everyone" just maybe everyone you knew.
~OT~ I think the truth was told previously ~ this particular poster thought the vast majority of posters would succumb to her ideology. That may be age ~ or not, I have spent times in these pot-threads before, and I must say ~ it does appear this group of posters have an entirely different (logical) stance on this subject. Nice to see the evolution of the proverbial, "It's an herb" debate!  | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 5:13:53 PM | I haven't seen where anyone's mentioned this (if so apologize for repeating).
It could affect your ability to find or keep employment. Most employers require a drug test prior to hiring and it's important to them because they get a big discount on their WC Insurance if they're DFWP. Also if there is a job-related accident or injury, they are required to have the employee drug tested and many companies have their employees sign a release to do random tests. It may not have affected you yet, but something to keep in mind.
Not really totally up on the confidentiality laws, but if you get flagged it could be hard to find a decent job in the future. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 5:23:03 PM | And ya have to love the posts from the tobacco junkies (yes you are drug addicts)....
Never said I wasn't, but it is still legal
not to mention the fact that you make the rest of us breath your second hand smoke (including your children)
Wahhhhh....your profile says that you drink socially......I don't drink, and even though it is legal as well, I am not slamming you for it.
Get over yourself.
As to the other poster who said we do other illegal things like speeding....I am 42, have been driving since I was 17, and have NEVER, EVER gotten a ticket or anything. That is because I never do more than 5 miles over the speed limit because 90% of the time I have my children in the car. So  | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 5:24:41 PM |
Cool! So does that mean I can go out and start castrating child molestors so that some day the government will legalize the practice?
I don't have any objection to that...Anybody? Anyone at all?
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Lighten up, people...it's not like she's setting up a meth lab in your neighborhood and letting her child play in toxic waste.The vehemence of some responses here is amazing. I hereby dub this phenomenon...
"Reefer Madness"!
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/18/2008 5:25:06 PM |
Please Google 'marijuana' and 'schizophrenia' and see how many studies have linked the use of it to the development of mental illnesses. Wow really? I had no idea? I tried smoking weed in high school and it just made me paranoid as all of hell.
 I thought I was going to be mentally ill and when it wore off I was glad. I seriously do not know how so many people use that stuff. | |
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