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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/19/2008 7:32:57 PM | | ^^^^^bornagainslim...........so as a parent yourself, you're supporting and condoning a parent who breaks the law, puts herself at risk of being arrested, who wastes money on drugs that she could be using for something like her daughter's college education, who puts herself at risk of having her child taken away from her..a parent who puts herself at risk of being under the influence such that should an emergency present itself with her child, she might not be with it enough to react or she might be too afraid to call an ambulance because she's afraid of being busted? As a parent you're fine with all this? | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/19/2008 8:13:56 PM | | some of you people are totally clueless when it comes to parenting. I do not want anyone with marijuana or any type of illegal drug around my children. I do not associate with that type of person. She may be a fantastic mother, but the fact is, smoking dope is illegal. You can argue all you want, it is still illegal. Daddy should come and get the child. Every child deserves to grow up in a drug free home. Not with a parent trying to escape from reality with drugs. What will Mom rationalize as being alright next? cocaine, meth, heroin? People arguing the use of marijuana are full of it. Learn to live by the rules, that were created for everyone's safety. They arent made to single you out and make you have a bad day. The fact is she is doing something illegal and could very well go to jail, and lose her child. Since when is that being a good parent? How OK is that? get real, just because some of you responders are smoking it, it doesnt make it alright. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 9:41:26 PM |
Bad mother I dont think so but I do have to agree with the the fact that it is illegal and what happens to your daughter if you are arrested she goes to her dads all the time and u only have a few hour visit with her a week? You miss her when she is gone the one day aweek
Has it occurred to anyone that the OP is not talking about having a trunkload of pot? Does anyone know of a place in the U.S., Canada or the E.U. where prison time is given for possession of a small amount (say 1 oz.)
It's also not necessarily reason for cps to remove your kids:
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/dll/marijuana_mother.htm
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Although I stopped doing this sort of thing over 20 years ago, I have no issue being around people who still do. I'll take the chance on being arrested. If tax dollars go toward prosecution, maybe breaking the bank is what it will take before people decide what really ought to be a criminal offense and what is personal liberty. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 9:51:20 PM | | ^^Dunno all the legalities on quantities and such...but my daughter was at risk for losing her child for being SUSPECTED OF SMOKING POT. Period. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 9:57:59 PM | | well i no a lot of people that smoke pot, i doant , i could care less who does. i see more people having problems with alchol, than with pot ? no i doant think this makes you a bad person, crack would be a different story ? | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/19/2008 9:58:50 PM |
^^^^^bornagainslim...........so as a parent yourself, you're supporting and condoning a parent who breaks the law, puts herself at risk of being arrested, who wastes money on drugs that she could be using for something like her daughter's college education, who puts herself at risk of having her child taken away from her..
If you want to make ``wasting money on drugs that...'' a reason to remove kids from their homes, then make sure to include alcohol and nicotine. Both are drugs and both are more dangerous than pot from a pharmacological standpoint. How about caffiene? At what point do you think the state should butt out and leave raising kids to their parents? Let me guess - at the point you would be in jeopardy of losing your kids because someone else had a different idea of what constitutes a good parent. Don't be in such a hurry to give away your parental rights.
parent who puts herself at risk of being under the influence such that should an emergency present itself with her child, she might not be with it enough to react or she might be too afraid to call an ambulance because she's afraid of being busted?
In other words, you can't actually present an argument without inventing it. For example, not calling an ambulance in an emergency WOULD indicate a person is a bad mother. Exactly where did the OP say she would not call an ambulance in an emergency? That might be how you would act, but not everyone thinks like you do. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/19/2008 10:02:46 PM |
some of you people are totally clueless when it comes to parenting. I do not want anyone with marijuana or any type of illegal drug around my children. I do not associate with that type of person.
Then don't associate with that type of person.
She may be a fantastic mother, but the fact is, smoking dope is illegal.
Then obviously you thik it's possible to be a fantastic mother and smoke pot, which answers the actual question posed by the OP. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2008 10:11:16 PM | it is don't for do not. don't. do doant. do ant. you did it twice.
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well i no a lot of people that smoke pot, i doant , i could care less who does. i see more people having problems with alchol, than with pot ? no i doant think this makes you a bad person, crack would be a different story ? | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/19/2008 11:05:33 PM | abelian,
why would you compare pot to alcohol and nicotine or caffeine? Last time I checked, POT WAS ILLEGAL - the others are not, for god's sake. What a sad, sad day in society -- when people condone parents using illegal drugs. It doesn't get any more sad than that. Last time I checked, a cup of coffee didn't impair one's mind.
In other words, you can't actually present an argument without inventing it. For example, not calling an ambulance in an emergency WOULD indicate a person is a bad mother. Exactly where did the OP say she would not call an ambulance in an emergency? That might be how you would act, but not everyone thinks like you do.
are you kidding me? people who are HIGH don't exactly think straight. Their reaction time is impaired. That is my point that you obviously missed. It's very basic.
Amazing what a bunch of liars we have on this site............... the adamant proponents of weed surely must be users themselves to be so passionate about their stance..............yet funny, you read their profile and the answer is always "no" to the question about "drug use".........maybe this thread is good as a filter for "weeding" out the blatant liars. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/19/2008 11:55:30 PM | | ^^ My point too whatsnottolove. ... bit shifty isnt it. Some of them have answered this saying they dont consider it to be a drug because its a natural product...WTF...... A drug, is a drug, is a drug. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 12:46:02 AM |
^^^^^bornagainslim...........so as a parent yourself, you're supporting and condoning a parent who breaks the law, puts herself at risk of being arrested, who wastes money on drugs that she could be using for something like her daughter's college education, who puts herself at risk of having her child taken away from her..a parent who puts herself at risk of being under the influence such that should an emergency present itself with her child, she might not be with it enough to react or she might be too afraid to call an ambulance because she's afraid of being busted? As a parent you're fine with all this?
No as a parent and a human being I am saying that is her right to choose. To be completely honest From her post she sounds like a good mother. There are three things "required" from parents. Food, Shelter, Safety. (The reason there are so many bad parentsout there is that is all they provide) From what I read she really loves and cares for her child. Not just pulling the bear minimum. So for you or anyone to attack her finances or personal choice is just wrong. Weather or not I agree with her choices is moot. Also, how can you assume so much? You are automatically assuming that, she doesn't provide a stable financial environment, that she is not planning for her daughters future, you are assuming that she smokes while her daughter is around, or that she goes anywhere after she is intoxicated, or finally that she is so selfish that she would put herself before her daughter no matter the conquences. Seems to me that is alot to assume. It also sounds like you need to educate yourself about marijuana. I know you won't, because you have already made up your mind about her as a parent and about me as a parent. I am a proponent for PRESONAL FREEDOM! Thats all. It sucks that you can't see that side of it. Cause personally I would rather my son grow up free rather than scared.
BTW Don't bother responding. I'm done on this topic.
 Something I picked up from my son... | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 1:01:26 AM |
some of you people are totally clueless when it comes to parenting. I do not want anyone with marijuana or any type of illegal drug around my children. I do not associate with that type of person. She may be a fantastic mother, but the fact is, smoking dope is illegal. You can argue all you want, it is still illegal. Daddy should come and get the child. Every child deserves to grow up in a drug free home. Not with a parent trying to escape from reality with drugs. What will Mom rationalize as being alright next? cocaine, meth, heroin? People arguing the use of marijuana are full of it. Learn to live by the rules, that were created for everyone's safety. They arent made to single you out and make you have a bad day. The fact is she is doing something illegal and could very well go to jail, and lose her child. Since when is that being a good parent? How OK is that? get real, just because some of you responders are smoking it, it doesnt make it alright.
In this country Alachol and nicotine and caffine are all classified as drugs... a drug free home as you preach would be without all of these things. First do you have kids? D you drink coffee? soda? an energy drink of any kind or ever have thos things around your kids? *gasp* what a terrible thing to do. This is getting into the realm of fantasy. The only way for her to go to jail and lose her shild if she were dealing with quite a bit more substancial amount than for personal use. Again the point is moot. It is all speculation. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 7:09:06 AM | Bornagain...you preach a good sermon...sounds like bs, smells like bs,...must be bs!?
You keep trying to capitalize on other posters who are referencing the DRUG aspect of things...and lumping cigarettes, energy drinks, coffee, soda, into the category is not making your argument much stronger since those things are LEGAL. Now, if those posters were referring to having and imbibing in ILLEGAL barbituates...they would be agreeing with you. Compare apples to apples, please.
Maybe the OP is the sort who you can't tell her high from straight? Maybe she functions perfectly normal as a high person...maybe she is never high around her daughter? Yippee Yippee Yah Yah! It does not make the fact that she has an ILLEGAL DRUG in her home, an illusion or misnomer, of course. It does not change the fact that she is instilling the idea that, "If you disagree with the laws of the governing state or country...piss on them!"
There are far better ways to teach a child to do something about things you don't agree with. Fight the laws in the proper way...not just rebel against them. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 7:28:58 AM | What is it that some people dont understand about ILLEGAL..That you have to justify your breaking the law by bringing in that alcohol and cigarettes are worse. Trust me....my husband was a very functional alcoholic.I'm the one however that sat in AA because he didnt think he had a problem. The Fact remains that MJ IS ILLEGAL..........Maybe my husband was an A$$ but he was a legal one.
When I caught my daughter underage drinking she was punished.....by me.....I by the way dont drink...when her father tried to talk to her about drinking she laughed. Some role model huh???? And for her at that particular time it was ILLEGAL for her to drink I told her if she got caught, for me not to be the one call she gets. Consequences for our actions are sometimes brutal.
And as for those whe tout its a natural product and not as bad for the body as cigarettes and alcohol .....tobacco is grown in the south its a plant...with additives thrown in just like pot.....wine from grapes...etc etc etc..that argument is lame
I never smoked pot....was never around someone that did..so i cant speak to what it does to the mind and body first hand only by what I read and it doesnt seem like an innocent drug to me but,..my perspective is from the legal aspect. Teaching ones chidren to obey the law when one is breaking them is hypocritical...............and a good parent teaches children to obey the law.....JMHO | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 7:59:38 AM |
The only way for her to go to jail and lose her shild if she were dealing with quite a bit more substancial amount than for personal use. Again the point is moot. It is all speculation.
This isn't really true. Somewhere in this thread I read that the father of the child doesn't smoke pot.
If she gets caught with pot all he has to do is request to the judge that he gets full custody of the kids. And the judge will most likely give it to him. She doesn't have to be dealing it. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 8:43:35 AM | bornagainslim:
Seems to me that is alot to assume. It also sounds like you need to educate yourself about marijuana.
You assume a lot too, Slim. You're assuming I know nothing about pot - you assume wrong.
Like I wrote previously, if a non-parent wants to smoke themself stupid each and every day - go for it, I don't care. But when you're a PARENT, the days of living a careless, irresponsible life need to be over. You have a child you are responsible for. You're their role model. You need to live your life in such a way that you're constantly putting their best interests as your #1 priority; that should go without saying that you don't partake in ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR (of which smoking ILLEGAL substances would be one of them)....you don't sit there at home while your child is sleeping and get 'high'....you find other more healthy ways to "cope" with life or unwind. Personal freedom is one thing -- but breaking the law is another.
Do you teach your son that it's okay to break the law just because you don't agree with the law? | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 9:07:06 AM |
And as for those whe tout its a natural product and not as bad for the body as cigarettes and alcohol .....tobacco is grown in the south its a plant...with additives thrown in just like pot.....wine from grapes...etc etc etc..that argument is lame
I never smoked pot....was never around someone that did..so i cant speak to what it does to the mind and body first hand only by what I read and it doesnt seem like an innocent drug to me but,..my perspective is from the legal aspect.
So you admittedly know nothing about marijuana yet you want to tell us how it's filled with additives? That's odd because I've never found anything in my pot but, well, POT. From the first time I smoked pot 13 years ago, I've never had to go to the ghetto to get it (nor have my friends) and almost all of it is locally grown. (I like doing my part in supporting my local growers rather than those damn "terrorists" in Mexico!)
Last time I checked, a cup of coffee didn't impair one's mind.
It does me. It makes me irritable, jittery, restless, and gives me a headache. I can't think straight and I just want to chain smoke. By the way, in your attempt to make your argument you conveniently left out alcohol which has been one of the three legal substances compared to pot in this thread. Hmm... odd.
are you kidding me? people who are HIGH don't exactly think straight. Their reaction time is impaired.
Says who? Oh yeah, the same "who" that says caffeine doesn't impair one's mind. Seasoned pot smokers don't have these problems. It's not like in the movies where everyone hangs out in the basement and gets ripped. People function normally on pot everyday. You can't keep smoking and get higher. You reach a point and that's it. Unlike alcohol where you can drink until you kill yourself in one sitting. But then again, if drinking to the point of hospitalization or death is cool with you because it's LEGAL then that's great! Sounds like a rockin time!
yet funny, you read their profile and the answer is always "no" to the question about "drug use".
Hey, it asks if you smoke. It didn't specify what you smoke. The drug question also doesn't include the word "illegal" so all you caffeine addicts might want to check the yes box on that one as well.
And again, IMO, a bad parent is one who teaches their children to be sheep. I'm thinking the OP's daughter won't be raised to "bahhh".
The only halfway sound argument that the opponents have is that it's illegal. That's it. One tiny little point is ALL you have, and I'd suspect that before long, that won't even be a reasonable argument so then what? Are you magically going to be ok with it then? If I started a thread saying I'm an alcoholic and I drink in front of my kids until I pass out and they have to carry me to bed, would it be ok since it's LEGAL? You think I couldn't have my kids taken away for that because alcohol is LEGAL? What about all you silent pill poppers? You have to have one to function during the day or one to sleep at night... THAT crap doesn't impair your mind? Oh yeah, it's LEGAL so that makes it perfectly ok.
This woman would have to have an insane amount of pot on her to have her child taken away. I don't give a crap if someone's daughter almost lost her kid due to smelling like it as I think there is MUCH more to THAT story. It's a simple misdemeanor to have under 8 oz in her state. Do any of you realize how much 8 oz of pot is? It's a freaking crapload! I don't think I even know any heavy pot smokers that can smoke that much in a month even with sharing with all their buddies.
Now I'm off to go shoot up some marijuana. Man those seeds are a ****!
Lint_Licker- member of NORML since 2005, advocating for responsible use of marijuana, and helping to change laws. (OMG! A pot smoker who does more than stare at the pretty colors on the ceiling! Can you imagine such people?!?!) | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 9:24:47 AM | | ^^^^^On come on..............you clearly admit to being a pot smoker yet you lie in your profile to the question of whether you do drugs (you've answered "no"). What's wrong - you don't want to honestly represent yourself? Let's be real here; the profile question of "drugs" is referring to illegal drugs.......not things like caffeine, Advil, nicotine (it already asks if a person smokes)...........I love how dopers are here on a dating site, misrepresenting themselves............if you're so damn proud of being a pot smoker, why aren't you honest in your profile? | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 9:35:57 AM | | No I do not think you are a bad mother at all. I know lots of people that smoke it and lead perfectly acceptable lives. Just wait and you will meet someone who loves you and wants you for what you are and what you do, in the meantime, ignore the others!!: | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 9:40:03 AM | | opinions are like a**holes....everybody has one. i love people that always know better than anyone else. i c it this way, as long as you know you are caring for your child and not exposing her to it, i don't think anyone has a right to say anything. yes, its illegal here. so is jaywalking. give me a break. i smoke also but guess what, i don't go to a 'spot' to cop some, i don't do it around my son...not even in my home. my child is well mannered, is a honor roll and academically gifted student, kind, compassionate, loves god and is happy and healthy. he lives in a clean home, always has a warm bed and a hot meal and gets lots of love, hugs and kisses. i'll b damned if i'm gonna allow anyone to tell me i'm a bad mother. u haven't walked in my shoes, don't judge me. i'm an independent woman who handles mine and doesn't ask anyone for anything. so u just ignore those people and do u. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 9:41:00 AM | wutznot2love.......its called rationalization.....if not, then why do they have to bring all the other things into the topic about pot.............if someone wants to start a topic about pot versus other drugs legal and illegal, I'll be the first to admit none are good for the body......to some neither is meat....we could go on and on about ones rationalization of what things they put in their body that are bad, why not bring up steroids......................this is about a mother doing an illegal drug..........who is not just responsible for her own well being but her daughters
And lintlicker....I may never have smoked pot but I know it has over 400 chemicals and it is addictive..........and now they are adding embalming fluid for goodness sake.........
And as the OP is gone this is no longer a viable thread
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 10:00:56 AM | OP,
Here's my take on it: If you are knowingly breaking the law (and it is illegal to possess, grow, purchase, and smoke marijuana) then yes, you are putting yourself at risk. I really could care less, if you were a single woman doing this, but you do have a child to think about.
Whether you smoke it around her or not, isn't really the issue, as far as i'm concerned. Could you imagine how devastating it would be for her to have to experience you getting arrested? How about when she has to go stay with daddy and doesn't get to see you, because you're in jail?
Sure, they're a little more leniant with enforcing the marijuana laws, these days, but the mere fact that you are willing to take that risk, does say something about how you feel about yourself, your daughter, her wellbeing and your relationship.
While I don't doubt that you spend lots of time with her, and take good care of her, etc. (And you should be proud, as a single mother, that you are able to provide her with everything she needs.) the fact that you are willing to take this risk, almost negates all that you do. As a mother, your sole responsibility in this world is to protect that little girl from ever getting hurt. How awful would it be to be the cause of the pain?
Also, might I add that kids often know what their parents do, in their free time. This girl is going to grow up much faster than you'd like, and when she does, she will be aware of your choice to break the law and encourage the legalization of drugs. This will often lead to similar behaviour in your own child. If you are breaking the law, she will use it to her advantage, as a teenager. You won't be able to get mad at her for acting out, because you don't practice what you preach. Not to mention that kids often emulate the behaviours of their parents, and she is likely going to participate in the drug scene. While marijuana doesn't seem so bad, most kids don't stop there. They move up the chain, and start doing harder drugs. Is this the life you want for your little girl?
I'm not calling you a bad mother, though I am criticizing your behaviours. My suggestion would be to stop it. Unless you have an addiction, it should be very easy to do, and will result in a much better environment for your baby. | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 10:01:19 AM |
Seasoned pot smokers don't have these problems. It's not like in the movies where everyone hangs out in the basement and gets ripped. People function normally on pot everyday.
Yeah...possibly so! I agree!  
It's the seasoned pot smokers who function normally on pot everyday, who CANNOT FUNCTION WITHOUT POT, that concerns me!
I don't give a crap if someone's daughter almost lost her kid due to smelling like it as I think there is MUCH more to THAT story.
Nope. Nada. Nothing more to it than I already shared. Her child had an innocent, though traumatic, childhood accident. Because the Dr. thought he smelled pot on us, while in the ER...it led to a very chaotic, traumatic, pain in the azz experience...when no one was smoking it! (Which was proven)
Me thinks you think "there was MUCH more to THAT story," and you "don't give a crap" about this example, because you cannot explain it or justify away as a true example of what CAN happen.
It's a simple misdemeanor to have under 8 oz in her state.
I'm really thrilled for you that you think "simple misdemeanors" are so simple and ok to have! We are not talking a traffic ticket, here! And even the simple misdemeanors to do with possession can wreak havoc on a person's life. But I guess they could just cloud it all away with...a bong hit! | |
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| I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/20/2008 10:21:39 AM | | You know you are a good mom. Don't let his comments get to you. I don't smoke it and I frown on it to be honest... But I will never suggest someone is a bad parent unless they subject their kid to harm. He was trying to vent his anger on you, that's all. | |
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