| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/1/2008 1:10:28 PM |
The liberals plan to press House and Senate Democrats to do what they said they'd do: pass legislation implementing the 9/11 commission recommendations; raise the minimum wage; reduce student loan interest rates; make health care cheaper and simpler; repeal tax benefits for the oil and gas industry; and allow the government to negotiate directly with pharmaceutical companies for lower drug prices.
Don't forget that when the Democrats raise the minimum wage the Congress would potentially get a raise also. You can thank Senator Barack Obama and Senator Hillary Clinton for that.
The Minimum Wage Earners Act of 2006 was introduced by Senator Hillary Clinton and 13 democrats including Obama co-sponsored it. Keeping their wage increase tied to the federal minimum wage so that the min. wage MUST go up the EXACT PERCENTAGE for both.
That means that if minimum wage goes up say 25% and it amounts to a quarter -- the congress gets a 25% increase also.
That would be in addition to the cost-of-living-adjustment (COLA) increase effective annually unless Congress votes to not accept it.
A Senators salary is currently in the range of $165,000 | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/1/2008 2:22:56 PM | Didn't Clinton write into law an increase for retired Presidents?
Anyway... Congress needs a good enema. Get them out! Check out the Voting Records and use that for a barometer to elect/reelect or kick out the ones who are not working for the American People. Get away from Party Lines and vote the ignits out! | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/1/2008 2:30:11 PM | | You know they're doing this on purpose right? Congress, wants you to feel this way. They want you to sweat , feel despreate, and despise America. That way we will accept what is to come. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 5:38:57 AM | | I don't despise America as a whole it's the current Majority in Congress that is the problem and need to be replaced. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 5:41:58 AM |
Didn't Clinton write into law an increase for retired Presidents? That's interesting.. and he also just ended a long free ride on the campaign trail with his wife.. all paid for by contributions so he didn't have to spend a dime of his retirement. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 9:28:35 AM |
Don't forget that when the Democrats raise the minimum wage the Congress would potentially get a raise also. You can thank Senator Barack Obama and Senator Hillary Clinton for that.
The Minimum Wage Earners Act of 2006 was introduced by Senator Hillary Clinton and 13 democrats including Obama co-sponsored it. Keeping their wage increase tied to the federal minimum wage so that the min. wage MUST go up the EXACT PERCENTAGE for both.
That means that if minimum wage goes up say 25% and it amounts to a quarter -- the congress gets a 25% increase also.
Isn't this ensightful information.. no wonder the Democrats were pushing for an increase in minimum wage.. it wasn't about the poor American people earning minimum wage it was about increasing THEIR OWN salaries.. so typical .. enough damage has been done by the House and Senate Majority in Congress these past 2 years time for a changing of the guard already. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 10:29:07 AM | | Amazing isn't it? With all the hateful talk about George Bush, his rating is twice as high as the democrat controlled congress. If the democrats in congress want higher ratings, they should start by taking their hands off the oil companies who want to drill in Alaska, offshore, and in the Dakotas. Our fuel prices would go down dramatically, we wouldn't be held hostage by foreign oil producing governments, and we would quit sending so much of our hard earned money to countries who are producing the terrorists. If they would get their heads out of their belly buttons on this one issue alone, their approval rating would soar. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 10:55:22 AM | O....K.... here's what I REALLY think of Congress.
We need to get Iraq stable... then, get out. If we have to leave a minimal peace force in there, fine.. like we have in Germany and other Countries. Then, we need to tell Iran if they choke off the oil outlet like they're threatening, we will sanction them Period. And, we need to get ourselves off this other Nations oil dependency.
THEN... we need to concentrate on our Borders and getting our own Nation in order... Economically and with Security issues. We need most of our Military here on the Borders.
If Congress won't get off their laurels, quit giving themselves raises, driving gas guzzling cars at our expense and get to the business of the American People, then we need to Vote them OUT! both Political Parties. Whoever is not doing the best interest of America... get em out. Period! | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 11:05:38 AM | | People are only upset that Democrats haven't done more to reign in the rethuglicans. Congressional Democrats approval rating is far higher than the Dark Side's. We should see a large shift in Congress as well as the WH this fall. Not necessarily Obama's coat-tails, but more likely a result of the gross incompetence of the current idiot in the WH! | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 11:29:34 AM |
People are only upset that Democrats haven't done more to reign in the rethuglicans. Congressional Democrats approval rating is far higher than the Dark Side's. We should see a large shift in Congress as well as the WH this fall. Not necessarily Obama's coat-tails, but more likely a result of the gross incompetence of the current idiot in the WH!
Aren't you glad to be an American where you have the right and freedom to call your President an 'idiot' and refer to the Political Party which you oppose as the 'dark side'.
Confidence in Congress is at record lows due to it's ignoring the good of the People it serves.
To discuss that in a civil manner takes great restrain. When 'restrain' is loosened, it makes the 'Yakker' no better than the Congress. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 11:39:00 AM | | Yes, I am glad that I still live in a country where that is possible. I intend on doing everything I can to maintain that, though "restraint" does not factor into the equation. Restraint would have made us remain subjects og King George, (Not Dubya). | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 11:46:27 AM |
"restraint" does not factor into the equation.
Nope.. nope. Wrong.
We want our Congress to have 'restraint' and quit bullying the World...right? We want Congress to have 'restraint' in it's spending...right? Are these not viable reasons why confidence in Congress is so low?
Why should we not expect the same of ourselves. Restraint in the respect that we can agree to disagree in a civil manner. Does the use of 'idiot' and other nouns/adjectives make you feel better? If so, that is an internal conflict with yourself. We should only hope and pray that Congress in general does not adopt this lack of restraint when they are debating and trying to get bills passed. More time would be spent on who called who the worse 'name' rather than getting the work of the People done. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 11:49:22 AM |
We need to get Iraq stable...
Not going to happen w/out an extremely authoritarian rule.....it would be like a stable 'Europe' during the Reformation.
The only real possibility would be to divide the country into Sunni, Shia & Kurdish enclaves....each w/ equal voting rights into a 3 party government. Even that would be extremely unlikely as a wrokable alternative.
We can't even stabilize Afghanistan....a MUCH simpler equation. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 12:00:46 PM | Honestly, since I'm not 'boots on the ground' like I was in Germany... I have no real solution or concrete thought process on Iraq. I 'll have to trust the actual Soldiers and Commanders to do the best they can and get us out as soon as they can.
I just wish Congress would do something correct to get America back to it's roots. Get us fiscally sound and defend ourselves when necessary. Let the rest of the World worry about their own nations.
I hope Congress leaves Roe vs. Wade alone and let it stand. Just don't expand it out.
I hope Congress figures out a way to control our own Borders.
Don't know what that makes me... it appears I lean toward the original concept/definition of Neoconservatism... as put forth back in the 1960s...except for the part of butting into other Nation's business militarily. I am in total support of a strong Military... here on the homefront.
And, Nightwing...
re' the other thread.... You know you love my hat!  Go ahead and admit it. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 12:36:25 PM | I use the word "idiot" in reference to bush as an accurate description. The man is an embicile. It is not a personal attak on him, it is an accurate analysis of his intellectual capability. I never use the same description of his dad, whom I have a lot of respect for. But it is also accurate of Raygun too.
Nixon, paranoid, but very bright. Ike, exceptional individual, intellect, character and personality. Goldwater, likewise. None of the current group warrent that kind of respect or admiration. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 12:47:13 PM | It's not out of 'respect' that I cringe when I see these 'cutsey' names used. It's just simple 'Human dignity'. That's just me. It grates on me to see it in print or hear it. I would go past the posts if possible but there's no way to block out certain Posters...so, as one scans and reads, it is there.
But..hey.. that's just my opinion. Nothing more or less.
If we had true 'idiots' in office... Presidency and/or Congress... we would not still be a free America where forums like this exist and our right to post.
Doesn't mean I have to like Bush or Kennedy, etc. etc. but, I refuse to resort to 'name tagging' like on an Elementary schoolyard playground. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 3:13:05 PM | Pad, I know what you mean about the name thing. . .
It is annoying. Billary, Hitlary, Stressing Obama's middle name, saying Al Gore said he invented the internet, questioning the war record of Kerry, while ignoring Dubya's lack of a record, trying to make Liberal a four letter word, calling liberals commies, etc. etc. etc.
So, forgive me if I fight fire with fire, and call McCain; McSame. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 8:55:33 PM | | Ah Ex...some people have no other weapon in their arsenal but name calling and I know that is not the case with you, you've got lots more in your backpack...I won't speak for other posters, but when I see these kind of posts, I just move on to the next one. Any relevant point that they may have made is just lost to me, I'm not interested in hearing the rants and raves of some of these people. A calm, well thought out post of an opposing view though I can read and consider. Some people may respond well to these tactics, maybe it's exciting and teambuilding for them, I have no idea, but to me it's a huge turn off. I think most of the people that post in this forum do so because they care about the future of our country, and they may not agree with each other because they approach things from different points of view, but I don't see that as a reason to attack, belittle and ridicule each other, or the candidates running for office. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 10:10:17 PM |
Why should we not expect the same of ourselves. Restraint in the respect that we can agree to disagree in a civil manner. Does the use of 'idiot' and other nouns/adjectives make you feel better? If so, that is an internal conflict with yourself. We should only hope and pray that Congress in general does not adopt this lack of restraint when they are debating and trying to get bills passed. More time would be spent on who called who the worse 'name' rather than getting the work of the People done. Civility is the key.. some people have it.. others don't.. I have more respect for someone during a debate then proper names are used.. and as you pointed out Congress members are for the most part civil and refer to each other as "my good friend from"..etc.. even if they really don't mean it.  | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/2/2008 11:50:55 PM | Idiot is a non-productive moniker. I prefer to call the President a war criminal, a traitor to the US Constitution, a probable tax evader, and a beneficiary of taxpayer funded welfare. These are provable.
As far as the Minimum Wage issue, what a remarkable conclusion. Congressmen want to raise the minimum wage so they can get a raise!!!!! Hahahah...
- Politicians don't become politicians for the civil servant salary!! Any Congressman can leave for Corporate America and make millions per year if the don't have that kind of cash already!
- A raise in the minimum wage raises most peoples wages!!!! a certain amount of employees make minimum wage and there is a sizeable amount of labor force whose wages are pegged off the minimum wage. The net result is an increase to the entire non-supervisory working population.
- maybe it didn't occur to you that the minimum wage has not kept up with inflation? if the minimum wage from 1969 were at the same level today, it would be $8 per hour. CEO salaries have gone from 40 times the average production salary to 500 times the average production employees salary. And before you start talking about how raising the minimum wage would cause a decrease in jobs, the minimum wage has increased 14 times in the last 35 years. In the years following those 14 increases, there were only 2 where jobs did not increase. Look at Bush's record! He's going to be the first President to contribute ZERO net new jobs to the market!
As far as the President having almost twice the approval ratings of Congress, the Congress typically has lower ratings than the Executive Branch.
Don't lose sight of the fact that Bush's ratings have dipped below Nixon and he was about to be impeached!! And don't forget that there's still a lot of Republicans in the Congress, but Americans are going to change that real soon. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/3/2008 12:11:52 AM | Erik, I couldn't agree more with your informative post. Was filled with logical thinking. I have always found the argument that raising minimum wages will cause employers to not hire as much and cut jobs laughable and a scare tactic.
Whats that extra $1 or $2 raise going to hurt. Is that business owner going to not water their lawn around their mansion one less day or take a shorter vacation to recover the cost? Are they going to downgrade all their luxury cars? . Its all about greed and if anyone thinks that will break a business, it was never a solid business in the 1st place and should go under. Businesses are always reviewing profit loss statements and have to adjust their business accordingly. From small business to big business. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/3/2008 12:53:23 AM | | Actually food service prices have gone up in my area since the minimum wage increase passed and workers have been let go.. not sure what it's like in other areas of my State. Speaking with people who have been "let go" it was associated with small businesses and minimum wage increase. That Subway or McDonalds sandwich just might be costing a little bit more and the service might not be as good.. fewer workers, poorer service, higher food cost. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/3/2008 12:59:56 AM | | Glam you proved my point. Those greedy companies will cut workers instead of maybe cutting that CEO million dollar yearly salary some. Any of them that say they are christians too is a joke with ethics like that. | |
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| Confidence in Congress at record low
Posted: 7/3/2008 1:05:57 AM | Look people... let's get real about all of this.
We may not like the high salaries the CEO of certain corps get...but, all we have to do is collectively boycott those businesses...because when Gov. goes in on one and controls the profit levels and/or how the pay is distributed, it will become a domino effect and we are on real dangerous territory of stepping into Communism. That's not a scare tactic. It is reality. | |
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