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| Paid to give up smoking.
Posted: 6/23/2008 3:50:38 PM |
if you are a heroin addict you get help to come off drugs, so why not..?
They get given drugs to ween off heroin. (doesnt really work tho as they get hooked on the meth)
f you are morbidly obese you can get help with weight comtrol...
They get life saving treatment
if you are an alcoholic you get help to give up the booze..
alchohol serverly disrupts the lives of alcholics and their families. (I heard they get free beer)
How many people are going to start smoking only to quit and gain an extra £12.50 in benefits a week. Absolutly retarded idea.
By the looks of it, £12.50 a week is more important to some people than not getting lung cancer or heart disease, "I wont quit for my health, but I'll do it for a few extra quid"  | |
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| Paid to give up smoking.
Posted: 6/23/2008 3:56:24 PM |
Its supposed to be a free country if people want to smoke ,then they should be allowed as for the millions spent on treating smoking related illness millions go on people who have never done a days work in their lifes ,and it nobody smoked at all all the people who do work would be taxed even more ,the goverment have 2 faces cos they get millions in tax from cigs
This isn't a free country, its governed by certain legal rules which you must abide to. I could easily say: "it's a free country, I should be allowed to smoke as much crack as I want". But that won't happen anytime soon. Crack tax? | |
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| Paid to give up smoking.
Posted: 6/23/2008 4:02:46 PM | Where do they get £500,000 from???
£12.50 a week x 52 weeks x 2 years x 900 people = £1,170,000.
All to come from the taxpaying, average working man & woman, who gets nothing out of this government at all....as usual.
Disgraceful. They should stop smoking off their own backs. Lazy dole scum.
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| Paid to give up smoking.
Posted: 7/23/2008 7:36:13 PM | You may find the average life expectancy in the Tayside area is very much lower than the UK average. Which means many people aren’t able to work long productive lives before developing lung cancer etc, not even reaching retirement age alive.
Where do they get £500,000 from???
£12.50 a week x 52 weeks x 2 years x 900 people = £1,170,000.
It said in the OP for 12 weeks, not 104. So that’s £135,000 on incentives, the rest would be on admin and publicity etc.
Why does the government feel they need to exert so much control over our lives?
because us humans keep demonstrating how little we can control ourselves. You do agree with laws on paedophiles don’t you. And murderers. And thieves. It may surprise you that government actually considers the pros and cons of a new law or scheme. They weigh up the benefit to the masses, and the likelihood of the law been obeyed. They make mistakes like the polltax. But when they aren’t tough enough you soon crap down upon them for failing to legislate against people with guns or people with mental illness or something. IN FACT people like you make me so fricking mad. You are always complaining about the rule of law. You complain when it stops YOU from doing what you want to regardless of the effect it has on others. Then you complain when it doesn’t protect you from someone else doing what they want to do. How about we have a national no laws whatsover day. People do whatever they like, how soon would all the people complaining about the nanny state rush to re impose the rule of law and order.
I am never liekly to crash my car and kill someone because i have smoked too many cigerettes
so like never has a smoker driving down the road dropped a fag or the match or lighter and looking or reaching down for it taken their eyes off the road ahead, not seen the lights change to red and crashed into an innocent road user.
Oh and never has a butt end or match been thrown out the window and flown into the eyes of another road user causing them to lose control and crash.
We seem to have got into a cycle were we encourage people to abdicate responsibility for thier own actions whatever they may be.
yes we do rather. Smokers seem to be number one, closely followed by car drivers who think that they aren’t personally responsible for what they do. Not responsible for polluting the air that others need to live by breathing.
And womble basher is taking the p!ss here:
Duh... you chose to enter environments where people smoked freely... Your choice.. there have always been places for non-smokers or people who objected to the smell and consequences of smoking... Usually outside
In my previous place of employment almost everyone else smoked and they did so in the canteen. A room only just big enough to accommodate everyone which means no distant corner to hide from the dense smoke. I had no choice in the matter about working there, maybe you can pick and choose with gay abandon your work, some us are less fortunate. You might not know this but by law you do actually have to work in this country. If you leave a job for your own reasons, or refuse to accept a job, you are not entitled to dole. No money means not been able to buy food. No food means death which is unacceptable so that means stealing it which is against the law. Therefore you are required by law to work, not a choice. That bit of logic is flawless compared to some of the cr@p I read in these forums.
And when I was a young person, the notion of non smoking pubs and clubs wasn’t heard of. If you wanted to go out and celebrate someone’s birthday etc it would be in a smoky place.
Even my hobbies and interests were plagued by selfish rotten smokers who thought that their right to smoke always superseded mine not to breathe in their smoke.
In fact I say HA HA HA HA HA now. You smokers wouldn’t compromise when the law wasn’t on my side. Now it is you are bitterly complaining. Oh poor you. How terrible it must be, not been allowed to smoke freely anymore. You should have been more reasonable before when you had the freedom of choice and was denying my mine. The only place there has ever been where I could choose about smoking has been my own home, a smack in the face and a bucket of water over the head usually been sufficient to educate smokers not to even try smoking in my home.
Now pubs are complaining that the ban has forced them out of business, never mind that all night drinking dens are springing up all over the town. Of course it has nothing to do with the lowering of import controls for cheap tax free booze, low prices in supermarkets and a general trend of staying away from pubs anyway. The demographic for pub goers has always skewed towards the young single male with money to spend from work. Now these males are less in number and they prefer trendier drinking bars anyway. The remaining older drinkers are dying from smoke related diseases anyway, so of course numbers are falling.
BUT if you read my other post today on the subject I do point out that instead of hanging and flogging those who have made my life less than an enjoyment over the years, I do I fact want to help them quit. Paying a few extra pennies on the tax is a small price to pay to reverse the scourge of tobacco smoke.
P.S 4 of my family smoke, so I have heard all the excuses smokers make about it.
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| Paid to give up smoking.
Posted: 7/23/2008 10:24:14 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^^ Not into smoking then?
Now pubs are complaining that the ban has forced them out of business, never mind that all night drinking dens are springing up all over the town.
I have to be honest I don't see how the smoking ban has effected their business. I've been a smoker, and smoking outside is not something that really bothered me, being an ex smoker I still find myself outside with my friends, while they have a smoke, It's great, you end up talking to loads of people, and having a good old banter,
The only thing I have found to object about since smoking has been banned in the pub, is the bloody smell, they stink, it maybe because our local is a dive but the first thing you smell when you walk in their is the loos.
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Being paid to give up smoking is a completely stupid idea, you have to want to give up, or all the money in the world is not going to stop you smoking. | |
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