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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 8:09:10 PM | I wouldn't say that either was better. It's a matter of prefrence. Men are Men. It's their personality and integrity that woo me... not their birthplace. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 8:20:14 PM | | When and if I find someone to call "mine", I want him to be an American. I am satisfied with the gender as a whole, if not with the ones I've encountered so far. Actually there were a few that I really think I could have liked, but apparently the feeling wasn't mutual, but there's nothing you can do about that. Hopefully one day I'll meet one of those that I think has potential, and he'll feel the same way. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 8:34:24 PM |
And since women evolved to nurture and men to provide,
I beg to differ--we both evolved to provide. In hunter-gatherer societies, the gathering women provided as much, and maybe more, than did the traditionally male hunters. It is speculated the hunters were perceived as more important because they brought home the protein. It is theorized that it was women who "thought up," or discovered by accident, both agriculture and animal husbandry (an oxymoronic word if true). Why? Because women were the gatherers, and more knowledgeable of plants. With animals, perhaps because of that nurturing aspect.
Do men feel threatened that women can and do provide for themselves now? That is not a lack of respect, it is a survival tool! | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 8:51:59 PM | I kind of agree with the whole survival thing. I mean it is kind of a moot point for me if I am satisfied with American men. Satisfied with what? I mean the only interaction I have had with them is either for social and dating or providing and taking care of one, which proved to be very unpleasant. Men haven`t made a major impact in my security or life anyways so I guess it doesn`t matter if I am satisfied or not. What would it matter if I was satisfied or not? I mean as far as social or dating, I have had alot better times with foreign men, but satisfied? Since when are men into satisfying a woman?
I don`t expect or request a thing from a man , much less satisfy me. The whole thing seems silly. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 8:56:48 PM |
"And since women evolved to nurture and men to provide, "
I beg to differ--we both evolved to provide. In hunter-gatherer societies, the gathering women provided as much, and maybe more, than did the traditionally male hunters. It is speculated the hunters were perceived as more important because they brought home the protein. It is theorized that it was women who "thought up," or discovered by accident, both agriculture and animal husbandry (an oxymoronic word if true). Why? Because women were the gatherers, and more knowledgeable of plants. With animals, perhaps because of that nurturing aspect.
Do men feel threatened that women can and do provide for themselves now? That is not a lack of respect, it is a survival tool!
I believe he was referring to an era that included fabricated clothing and not hides.
Typically women birth (ok, given) the child, breast feed the child etc. In other words: nurtures. I think that is what the man was referring to.
I think it's utterly stupendous women have freedom of choice these days. I wouldn't want any woman that felt she had to have me, a man, to take care of her. I want her, to want to be with me out of her free will. I believe a lot of guys think as I do about this.
Sometimes I think the worst injustice we do to ourselves is to ignore the fact that we ARE animals. We are predisposed to have certian traits and inclinations. Each gender has it's own inclinations. Lord, I celibrate the differences. I know, that sounds a bit metaphysical. Not my intent.
I just really doubt where a man is from is the problem. I want a woman that enjoys being a woman, with all her falabilities. And, I speculate a woman, of that caliber, wants a man that enjoys being a man, with all our falibilities!
just a few thoughts | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:02:38 PM | I get a 10 to 1 ratio of enquiries in favour of ladies from the US/
Canada. I've had a lady from Australia talking about one of us moving continent - which I told her I wasn't interested in.
For every man 'looking abroad' there's a woman willing to up sticks and go to him.
Apparently. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:10:17 PM |
I wouldn't say that either was better. It's a matter of prefrence. Men are Men. It's their personality and integrity that woo me... not their birthplace. Ditto there. I've met some great guys from many different countries, and I've met some jerks from various countries. Same with American and Canadian men. I'm just fine with North American men. Granted, about 95% aren't my cup of tea, but that's the same no matter which country they are from. In about any country I think I could still find somewhere in the range of 1-5% that match me. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:17:23 PM | I just really doubt where a man is from is the problem. I want a woman that enjoys being a woman, with all her falabilities. And, I speculate a woman, of that caliber, wants a man that enjoys being a man, with all our falibilities!
I can understand this, but on the other hand, I think coming from a different culture may be a draw for some women. Already in this thread, some have mentioned Italians for example (ahem...). Don't know if anyone has spent a lot of time in Italy.. but apparently Italy is very much culturally synonymous with romance, love, and sexiness. I think that may have an appeal to some of the North American women who may not see enough of that at home. So Italian men are de facto associated with that aspect of Italian culture. In North America, we are considered by many as the "McDonald's" culture... so for some women, I suppose a little veal parmigiana might be worth looking into. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:17:44 PM | evnstevn said
People are different in the US. We have more stuff but we seem to be more demanding than everyone else. And since women evolved to nurture and men to provide, it makes sense that if guys here have more security to offer they'd be more preferred. And if guys are wired to provide, they'll look for a mate who most appreciates that ability. All of it is probably instinctive and subconscious.
My thoughts - it seems to also illustrate when American men are satisfied with women (which is wonderful to hear!).
Another thought - I liked the op's original (to me) view that both men and women are instinctive providers...now that makes sense to me....and indeed that is what I find is necessary these days more and more here with so many singles and single parents trying to survive in a country where it costs so much to live and very little real help from the gov't.
Ahhh, so, another dissatisfaction - I am most dissatisfied with our American male president, for it is getting harder and harder to survive here and seems to increase this subject that men object to the women who use them financially.... (and it does go both ways - women are also being used for what they can provide financially these days too, imo).
I guess there is always the potential to be used by each other for many things (emotionally, physically, materially, etc.) and it seems that scenario can lead to disatisfaction for everyone, both female and male. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:25:02 PM |
Do men feel threatened that women can and do provide for themselves now?
I don't think men feel threatened that women now provide too, I think it just means the ability they used to rely on to attrack a mate isn't in demand like it used to be so they look for another market where their skills have more value. Just spitballing. I'd like to be a kept man myself.
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:26:15 PM |
This looks like a cultural phenomenon, and no one has addressed that. > gwendolyn2008
Well, you have addressed the phenomenon, so that's nice.
- Soul Union | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:45:24 PM |
Since I am not arrogant enough to assume to be able to judge an entire nation by the two American men I had the pleasure (or displeasure but I'll never tell) to date, I won't.
And since I still think it would be arrogant of me to paint an entire country, even my own, with the same brush and based only on my own limited experiences, I refuse to paint all Canadian men with the same brush.
But I will say this...I love people. Both men and women...makes no difference to me. People are people in my opinion.
And I love Canada like I love many other countries...therefore I love Canadian men (and women) both because, and in spite of, them being Canadians.
And I know this might not sound very patriotic of me to say, but I prefer to think of myself as more earth or people-otic than patriotic.
In my opinion, the less lines and divisions that exists between people, the better we are. But that's just me...to each their own.
JMO
Nicely said.
I was going to send you a message but you do not accept messages from people that do not have a photo.. :frown:
I loved your profile btw.. especially the quotes in the dating section! ;! ) | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:59:28 PM | Usually these foreign brides are not going to do too well financially once they ae over here without their american man to support them. Maybe in time they will have some career built up or some are professionals to start with that can transfer qualifications. There are exceptions I know but I doubt many - and the guys are ok with that I suppose. Really, I think those guys are looking for dependent, stay at home traditional types willing to have kids with them. It's just a guess.
However, unless you met a foreign man with a transferrable career, perhaps in oil and gas which is very "internatinal"or IT or medical, the woman would have a guy with limited work options once he gets here. Sure he could get a head in time if his lanquage and education permit but there's be a learning curve whiles he was fairly dependent on her, socially and financially.
Would a woman want that?
I am sure as more women become as financially well off as men this will become more common. If she can't find one here and she can afford it I bet it will happen.
But you'd have to wonder...are these people being used for a ticket to north americaand then once they get on their feet they'd be gone/ I guess you'dhave to be a good judge of character. You'd also have to be able to help them overcome the cultural shift and losing all their family when they emigrate here. That's a lot to deal with.
Is it worth it? I don'tknow but I'm sure it will happen more and more with wealthier career women who can afford to pick an choose from guys eager to leave their less comfortable countries of origin.
I've considered it myself but honestly there are too many gorgeous Canadian men right here at home so I don't think I'll bother thanks. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 10:05:38 PM | About your observance of ameracan men wanting a woman from another country.
I am one of those guys,and here is my explanation,it is because other countrys are behind us between ninty to a hundred years,womens values in other countrys about men,are the way american women were about a hundred years ago here.All forigen women want is a guy that can take care of them,love them,spend time with them,and that he has a great personality.They don't judge a guy by the way he looks.Women over there also don't care if a guy is trirty years older than her,they feel that the guy is less likly to cheet on them.In short women over there aren't shallow like our american women are,we guys are tiered of being passed by just because of how we look,why don't you at leest go out with the guy,and get to know him before you decide.I was rather upset about the last pof event i went to,we did a speed dateing thing at it,and most of the women there acted like they diddent want to give me the time of day.I felt like it was a waste of my time,and you wonder why american guys are itrested in forign women. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 10:11:20 PM | I have not seen a forum started by a woman wanting an Asian or Russian husband or seen such a desire repetitively stated in forums.
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Could it be because most men in Russia make only $2800 a year? Or if she moved to be with the man (which is "tradition") she would have to wait in line an hour for a potato?
Oh, and Asian men earn less. Plus, American women can have any guy the want! Someone, please take me..... Why won't you???
(((,we did a speed dateing thing at it,and most of the women there acted like they diddent want to give me the time of day.I felt like it was a waste of my time,and you wonder why american guys are itrested in forign women.)))
It's not too late dude: Take some crash courses on spelling, grammar, culture, society, and heck study the whole world. Start exercising 40 minutes x 5 days a week. Improve your attitude, then normal healthy women will/might at least be interested for a 1 minute speed date. Nobody, man or woman, wants an uneducated, unhealthy, pissed off person. Would you?
(((And to those of you who pointed out that men from ALL countries of the Americas are American, technically you are correct, so I shouldn't have been so egocentric in my question. There are cultural differences between men of the US (and Canada, I daresay) and the men of Meso and South America. I live in the US, I can't speak of men in Australia and NZ, though I have certainly had long distance attractions for men in those places.)))
Thank God you straightened out that major flaw in your hypothesis, Whew! Is all I can say. Its a good thing the other Poster was alert. Now I understand the jist of the question. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 10:38:28 PM |
I am one of those guys,and here is my explanation,it is because other countrys are behind us between ninty to a hundred years,womens values in other countrys about men,are the way american women were about a hundred years ago here.All forigen women want is a guy that can take care of them,love them,spend time with them,and that he has a great personality This was a wonderfully stated premise. Whether the diction, grammar, or punctuation is correct, is really immaterial. The message that women have changed in this country, while women in other countries are more grounded in those more important qualities people CAN bestow, is what's important.
But if women in the US are not satisfied with men in the US, I'll show clear example of the faceless, cruel, and internally disfigured demeanor that some US men possess.
It's not too late dude: Take some crash courses on spelling, grammar, culture, society, and heck study the whole world. Start exercising 40 minutes x 5 days a week. Improve your attitude, then normal healthy women will/might at least be interested for a 1 minute speed date. Nobody, man or woman, wants an uneducated, unhealthy, pissed off person. Would you?
For the life of me, I cannot understand why so many people, faceless people, I might add, have the audacity to try and berate or diminish someone elses post, without giving credence to the ideologies they represent.
ANYtime someone attempts to put others down, it's shows their own lack of self worth and self-esteem, as they are trying to make themselves look better at someone elses expense
Coming from someone so calloused as to criticize a persons looks, all the while shameful enough to exclude their own photos, I say this coward deserves his own demise. I can't overstate how repulsive some people are, and the most cruel, dysfunctional ones are most often those who do so name(face)lessly.
Dood, take a crash course in try and get over what a lousy person you are. LOL... I've known bigger people who could walk under a pregnant ant.
Ah, well, every pond has it's scum, aye?  | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 10:47:24 PM | ((( is because other countrys are behind us between ninty to a hundred years))) This was a wonderfully stated premis
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Ok, if you were a man 100 years ago, more power to you. Maybe there is someone who still thinks the Earth is flat you could agree with too.
Your pizzed cause I zinged you on every other thread your in. The two of you together couldn't count to ninty, let alone, tell others how to.
Please, do not strive to improve yourself, to see where YOU are deficient (instead of blaming American women for your lack of love). Do not exercise, do not eat healthy, do not stay educated, do search your soul for the truth. More for me. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Yeah, we need more women like they were 100 years ago. Excellent theory, lets run with it.
I just read this Nobel Peace Prize winning comment: (((( What would be obvious to you, as I'm not even sure myself. I do have a hunch, thought, that flippant attitudes towards US men, (as illustrated through a few of these post's), from US women, would be my first guess.))) Wow talk about low, whereas I was giving one man a suggestion for improving his speed dating speed, YOU make aspersions towards all of American Feminity. Huh, thats funny coming from such a lovely soul as you claim to be. I make no such claims.
(((clear example of the faceless, cruel, and internally disfigured demeanor that some US men possess))) Yes you do, as seen in every single post where you mention women. Good golly miss molly!
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 10:47:59 PM | i can only speak from my perspective..i have dated and married women from both the USA & South America. I have many friends that have dated and married women from other countries. In my opinion, women..(and prolly men) from other countries appreciate more the things we take for granted. We have soo many choices..as an example....how many brands of ice cream/salad dressings do we have?? If you want to work, you can always find a job here..even if its flipping burgers..not so in other countries.We make alot of $$ compared to ther countries..most of us have a car..prolly an apt. or house..etc..
When you travel to other countries as i have, you appreciate the freedoms and life we have a whole lot more.Unfortunately, in my experiences, when women from other countries become 'Americanized' they become biotches..and except for maybe a sexy accent ...they lose their strong morals..strong family..strong committment...and want to sit back and be put on a pedestal, instead of caring for 'her man'..which is the way it should be. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 10:54:37 PM | Even though Americans are not the last on my desirability list, I find Native Americans, Serbs, Croats, Germans, and Jews the most attractive men of all. Well, then, if one is a great poet, a scientist, a physicist, a mathematician, or an intellectual of any other proven or unproven kind, there is an additional desirability and attraction… | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 11:09:17 PM | | I thought the question was if American women were satisfied. Now all of a sudden the guys are telling us why foreign women are better. Proves my point. Moot Point. Who cares if American women are satisfied, doesn`t seem like the men even noticed the question. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 11:11:58 PM | Oh yeah, the faceless guru of women,the epitomy of manhood,has once again reared his .... uhm.... faceless head? . HAA
Your pizzed cause I zinged you on every other thread your in. The two of you together couldn't count to ninty, let alone, tell others how to
puhhleeze.... you can think you've zinged others, but you'd be wrong. You can think with all your might that you've somehow managed to piss others off. Dood, if we had any feelings, trust me, they'd have been hurt. But, coming from such a weasel of a man, It's pressing to even find sympathy for such reckless regard.
The fact that aayyoooo seem overtly confidant you've 'pizzed' anyone off or made them angry only further emphasizes your need to do so, your lust to cause dysfunction, to put others down because it makes you feel like a bigshot. And quite frankly, those people who tend to wallow in this type of dysfunction only reaffirm their innately dysfunctional qualities. Although, I will say, the continuity, the continuation of a theme that Iv'e seen in many post's surely adds to your deeply imbedded persona. What? Mom didn't hug you enough, or did she hug you too much? | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 11:14:01 PM | | Just like the song.....Im liking my American Boy! But....he is one in a million. So before I met him, I was decided not to date another american. I met some very unexpressive, reserved, unaffectionate, liars, boring, directed by their stereotypes, selfish, superficial, cheap and terrible lovers, bla bla bla. I was so lucky to find this american man who is like my version in male...he is a keeper. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 11:16:24 PM | I am not the one complaining about American women, or for that matter women anywhere. There are two, only two, out of billions who have recently given me a bit of grief.....and one great son.
(((coming from such a weasel of a man)))
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I'm proud of the Weasels! Go Weasels! You should see our Cheerleaders! Hot Hot Hot! I love em all!
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I wonder why women aren't satisfied with SOME American men? | |
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